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Hello there and thanks for the updates. I just checked my 'FlyByWire Installer' , and the A380 section is disabled, so I am not able to download the aircraft. I have the Deluxe Version of the Sim , but hardly play it. Will look forward to your response. Thank you.
Good eye, I just zoomed in on the image on my discord app on my phone and it's too blurry to see the date, where did you view the image that it was clear enough to see the date on the EFB?
@@FinlandGuy747 But it can also be a hint on when it comes out and if they wanted better lighting then do it in the winter since they are Sydney it’s there summer in the southern hemisphere and winter in the northern hemisphere
@@TheflyingBrit If the picture is taken like 19 February the sun would be directly above them. In may it shines from the side. And there's just no way it's going to release in May.
@@FinlandGuy747 look at the photo the aircraft is practically finished the exterior is finish and interior is finished so I won’t be surprised if I does release on that date but we will find out
I've had the privelege of visiting Sydney twice in my life and its absolutely stunning I must say :) Looking forward to the A380 too! If you find the content entertaining or informative btw, please consider subscribing for more!
A380 looks stunning.Will be worth the wait I'm sure. Beyond ATC is certainly interesting. I think people are panicking too much over the transmission costing. While it is not subscription. Pay by the month per say, it will depend on how much T/time people will spend/use. Premium at $30 may last one person 1 week but the next person may last for 6 months. I think it's a wait and see how people use it in practice and tell us scenario really. Cheers.
Well said, anyone that is experienced and intelligent enough to use ATC at all, should also be intelligent enough to understand the back end costs of AI and how expensive it's going to be to enjoy its benefits in the short term. Like anything, the price will come down over time, but if you want to be an early adopter, you better start saving your allowance!
@@Skyvibes10 yes but the screen shot was taken on the 19th all they did was move one month ahead on the same day cause may has better lighting l. Try it in sim, if today the Wednesday 21 of feb you move the time to a month ahead so may it will change to the correct 21st of may which is a Thursday, it won’t keep the wendays it makes no sense idk if I’ve explained myself
@@Skyvibes10 I said the sim knows the 19th of may 2024 is on a Sunday even ur calendar knows it’s not rocket science it uses default weather of may. May has a different seasonal sun look in sim than what February has. Many develops and people who take screenshots use this. All I’m saying at this point don’t get ur hopes up for a may 19th release
People are way too optimistic about BeyondATC having not seen anything near a traffic solve. When they took traffic on beyond mere injection, I started to worry. I think its the right move for getting a truly great ATC program, but it now has traffic tied around the neck of the AI chat in such a way that if its not really solid, it takes the whole thing down with it. That piece is tricky and I suspect actually harder to implement than the AI voice/response code they've integrated. I am definitely curious to see their progress and how that all works out.
The Beyond ATC is simple really in its price model. Think of it as putting gas in your car. Depending on how u drive and how often, you will either use a lot of gas, or very little. So how often you need to fill up the tank depends on you.
Yes but the pricing is terrible. You have to pay 5 dollars worth of "units" if you want to use premium for 1 flight and basic is just a glorified version of offline.
Of course man. I wish the aircraft developers are going to follow Beyond ATC and come up with this really simple price model so we have to pay for the virtual fuel that we load in the aircraft 🤣🤣
Look guys - you get it out by next month and I'll tell you how good it is.... I'm going on the real thing again lol. The current versions available (ahem....) have tried and failed but I'm hopeful that this is the greatest so far.
Great video...thanks! I honestly am trying to be patient as if i have a choice 🙂I cant wait for both of these to be released. Also I don't think the pricing is unreasonable.
FBW are putting so many payware devs to shame with what they are doing for both the A320 and A380 These could be sold as mid-top tier payware aircraft easily but instead it is just people dedicating their free time to the project.
@otherguy137 Technically, FBW have running costs too, from hosting , content delivery (CDN), and more ... things like websites are not free to host and run even if it's maintained by the community. BATC has way more running costs, though, as AI is expensive.
The beyond atc price scheming is so convoluted the basic is the only one I would consider ever using dlc model of a specific third party app I just cannot get behind.
I don’t understand the people complaining about the Beyond ATC model, including the price, the AI voice technology and servers are not theirs, they don’t get to determine the price of the better voices apart from the fact they are supposedly charging them at cost so are not making profit from that or very little. I also don’t find it complicated, I find it flexible, they have gone out of their way to allow us to make it as cheap or as expensive as we can afford, allowing multiple combinations of setups to dial in what we are willing to accept, I find that great. It would also be great if the transmission units were cheaper, I get that, but that’s not their fault. My only concern is the offline mode voice recognition, supposedly that’s being done online also which will use transmission units too. I really don’t see why that part can’t be done locally, other ATC with voice recognition does that.
@@WhiteHawk77You are obviously a very stupid little Shitehawk aren't you? Give me any single example of a commercial company that wishes to stay in business by not making a profit from their products/services .... it is simple economics! Perhaps you should have paid more attention to what teacher had to say when you were in school! Fool! Anyway, a very wise man once told me, that you cannot have a sensible conversation with a fool that doesn't know what he is talking about. Therefore, to that end I shall partake of such sage advice and terminate this discourse herewith. Conversation terminated!
Love your video's. But, may I ask what GA plane you are flying in the beginning of the video and in between the topics? It looks like a really nice modern two-seater. It kinda looks like the Vertigo, but I'm not sure. Thx.
5 minutes of silence for the Vatsim/IVAO ATC's who are going to lose their virtual jobs 😢😂 (with this pricing tho I don't think there's anything you should be scared of)
Yeah Beyond ATC pricing does seem fair enough . As they say you can use it for one off payment or you can add on more voices for a few $ more . Not like you have to keep paying sub every month .
Beyond atc pricing model is so confusing! Want to use 5 bucks per flight, in a pmdg that you already payed 70 dollars for, in a sim were you at minimum payed 60 bucks for, then go ahed! Imagine useing 5 dollars (ish) per flight like NO! its outrageously!!!! Im sure someone will, a go ahed but I sure wont.
BeyondATC is technically a good and innovative product for sure. Unfortunately, the absolute nogo here is the fact that you can't use Push-To-Talk offline. The quality of the voices isnt obviously the only criterion for being able to use BATC as a real ATC. This means that for 60$ I only interact with ATC via mouse clicks, and let's be honest here, that has nothing to do with realism. Simple voice recognition in offline mode would have been the least I could have done, because without voice recognition ATC is simply not useful. The prices with traffic for frequent flyers and the Basic model are also considerably more problematic than a subscription and far exceed the cost of a subscription. Who pays 100$ per month for an ATC solution? For a basic price of 60$, I expect voice recognition so that I can at least practice ATC communication in a meaningful way if I have to fall back on the simple voices. A380 looks stunning, realy looking forward to it :).
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong- I want ATC. I want a "robot" to talk to me when I talk to it with my voice. I do not care how robotic it may sounds, I just want a robot to give me a respond on the other end of VFR/IFR charted flight. If I pay 60.00 outright, and go only into offline text/speech mode. I will not ever need to spend more than 60.00 USD ever again?
I dunno, I think I'd rather pay a small subscription fee for an unlimited premium voice rather than having to purchase transmission units every time I run out.
Overall, I have a positive outlook on life and everything flight simulation. But right now, I'm over of all this endless teaser from various devs like FBW, PMDG, and Fenix. I couldn't care less about all the screenshots etc. Just let me know when it is released.
Its tiring isnt it, but it lets content creators keep smashing out preview videos with the same old messages that gets clicks and views and likes and of course money. Please excuse my scepticism.
i hope nobody buys beyondATC. what a horrible EA like pricing model. price breakdowns for flight sim atc/traffic add-ons should never take over 7 minutes to explain lol
Sadly no. Because it’s a ‘freeware’ product, Microsoft doesn’t allow freeware in the marketplace, but 3rd party developers. So sadly, FBW A380 will never come to Xbox, we’ll have to wait for the iniBuilds A380 instead, which I’m sure will be just as good.
@@travelcaribbean2009 thats seems too be the problem you want all the benefits of a pc but but you dont want to spend the money for a pc just pull the trigger and get 1
@@Rickk69er nope, can’t. When you under 18 and should obey your parents wishes and when they say you don’t need one, then I’m not gonna… PC’s are outrageous. And just for MSFS to run no better, and only get freeware, it’s not worth 1500 to 2k dollars
@@Rickk69ercomments on TH-cam would be much easier to analyze if the age of the person and more importantly, their disposable income level was visible. Children and adults with low income or like myself, casual Xbox gamers that found themselves getting hooked on MSFS, are often the ones that can't afford PCs, and/or don't realize how much better the MSFS experience is until they own a PC. For me, XBOX Series X with a full suite of the Turtle Beach peripherals was an overall 6/10, compared to the 10/10 experienced I'm having on PC. I spent about 2 years on the platform and just switched 2 months ago, best decision I've ever made, but it wouldn't have been possible without my new higher paying job I got a few months ago
I am seriously disappointed about the BeyondATC model. I am paying for Simbrief because its a complex solution and I really love it but this? Can't use push to talk in basic? That is stupid and they want to drain money from customers. I will not buy this product.
You can. Surely not that realistic but if there is for an Engine failure you can do it with the mouse. Or did they announce you can’t bc u can fly the Boeing 747 right ?
Does anyone care about the FBW A380 anymore? FBW has been teasing us with pictures and previews for years now. I’ve completely lost interest and won’t be downloading it when it is released in 2028.
@@Kailum8866I agree it can take time to develop. Many are tired of pictures of landing gears, seat cushions, and random buttons over several years. All we are looking at is a paper airplane.
@@Aceuchiha. Release date this year? I think there is a better chance of finding Bigfoot than FBW releasing their plane anytime soon. But hey, if they do, enjoy! :)
Oh great, so they came up with an amazing idea with Beyond ATC and have let the board of directors and the share holders come up with the pricing. Brilliant 🙄
@@mr65136 well it seems beyond ATC have dropped the prices across the board after listening to feedback, seems they MUST have been making more profit than you first thought 🤔
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Hello there and thanks for the updates. I just checked my 'FlyByWire Installer' , and the A380 section is disabled, so I am not able to download the aircraft. I have the Deluxe Version of the Sim , but hardly play it. Will look forward to your response. Thank you.
@@adesojiadebisi3477The A380 isn’t out yet so you can’t download it now.
@@adesojiadebisi3477its not released yet
Hello if you looked closer at the EFB then you would see a date of May 19 2024 which could be a hint to the release date of the Flybywire A380X
Good eye, I just zoomed in on the image on my discord app on my phone and it's too blurry to see the date, where did you view the image that it was clear enough to see the date on the EFB?
They simply put the time few months forward to get a better lighting.
@@FinlandGuy747 But it can also be a hint on when it comes out and if they wanted better lighting then do it in the winter since they are Sydney it’s there summer in the southern hemisphere and winter in the northern hemisphere
@@TheflyingBrit If the picture is taken like 19 February the sun would be directly above them. In may it shines from the side. And there's just no way it's going to release in May.
@@FinlandGuy747 look at the photo the aircraft is practically finished the exterior is finish and interior is finished so I won’t be surprised if I does release on that date but we will find out
Im from sydney so its great to see this amazing a380 aircraft parked here, looking forward to the release! 🎉
I've had the privelege of visiting Sydney twice in my life and its absolutely stunning I must say :) Looking forward to the A380 too! If you find the content entertaining or informative btw, please consider subscribing for more!
Beyond atc priced itself out of the market
It has been stated that the cost of the transmission units does not go to the DEVS, but that the fees go directly to the AI servers.
Everytime i see this aircraft A380 i feel impatience but still respect their generous help to give it for free
i see it this way you its price, quality, and time to develop and you can only choose 2
A380 looks stunning.Will be worth the wait I'm sure. Beyond ATC is certainly interesting. I think people are panicking too much over the transmission costing. While it is not subscription. Pay by the month per say, it will depend on how much T/time people will spend/use. Premium at $30 may last one person 1 week but the next person may last for 6 months. I think it's a wait and see how people use it in practice and tell us scenario really. Cheers.
Well said, anyone that is experienced and intelligent enough to use ATC at all, should also be intelligent enough to understand the back end costs of AI and how expensive it's going to be to enjoy its benefits in the short term.
Like anything, the price will come down over time, but if you want to be an early adopter, you better start saving your allowance!
Time to get two extra TCA throttles for engine 3 and 4 😂
Hell yeah mate! Gotta invest in the setup as well :) If you find the content entertaining or informative btw, please consider subscribing for more!
@@FlyBySimulations I subscribed!
Imagine having to pay 5 dollars per flight for a game addon.
Remember that guess i took for the pmdg ?
Taking another one for the A380
19th may
Take a close look at the EFB
people say this was because the screenshot was taken the 19th, and for a better lighting they used may. Many devs do this
@@RAVIOLIdS No the past 19t was on a Thursday or a Tuesday
But the upcoming 19th is a sunday just like the EFB
@@Skyvibes10 yes but the screen shot was taken on the 19th all they did was move one month ahead on the same day cause may has better lighting l. Try it in sim, if today the Wednesday 21 of feb you move the time to a month ahead so may it will change to the correct 21st of may which is a Thursday, it won’t keep the wendays it makes no sense idk if I’ve explained myself
@@RAVIOLIdS Bro how would the sim know the weather at 19th may 2024?
@@Skyvibes10 I said the sim knows the 19th of may 2024 is on a Sunday even ur calendar knows it’s not rocket science it uses default weather of may. May has a different seasonal sun look in sim than what February has. Many develops and people who take screenshots use this. All I’m saying at this point don’t get ur hopes up for a may 19th release
Thank you for the clarification on BeyondATC. I was so confused so bad that I gave up on it. I'm still on the fence now. Thank you for the content
People are way too optimistic about BeyondATC having not seen anything near a traffic solve. When they took traffic on beyond mere injection, I started to worry. I think its the right move for getting a truly great ATC program, but it now has traffic tied around the neck of the AI chat in such a way that if its not really solid, it takes the whole thing down with it. That piece is tricky and I suspect actually harder to implement than the AI voice/response code they've integrated. I am definitely curious to see their progress and how that all works out.
And that 380 is GORGEOUS!
I CAN'T WAIT FOR BEYOND ATC!! for me, its worth every penny
The Beyond ATC is simple really in its price model. Think of it as putting gas in your car. Depending on how u drive and how often, you will either use a lot of gas, or very little. So how often you need to fill up the tank depends on you.
Yes but the pricing is terrible. You have to pay 5 dollars worth of "units" if you want to use premium for 1 flight and basic is just a glorified version of offline.
@@oneinchant589 There is always the Pilot2ATC software option.
Of course man. I wish the aircraft developers are going to follow Beyond ATC and come up with this really simple price model so we have to pay for the virtual fuel that we load in the aircraft 🤣🤣
Will the Fly by wire A380 be free on Xbox in marketplace?
It's not very expensive, it's just more expensive than what I paid for the simulator
Look guys - you get it out by next month and I'll tell you how good it is.... I'm going on the real thing again lol. The current versions available (ahem....) have tried and failed but I'm hopeful that this is the greatest so far.
I can't wait for this A380. Looking good.
A380 is ready and can be flown, so FlyByWire should launch the aircraft and let it update like a32nx was done as a standalone
should they? I disagree. Completed product is completed product.
how do u know? do u work at flybywire or sum? lmfa
When the A380 comes out, lots of people are going to be flying to Dubai via Manchester and likewise routes.
will it be in the marketplace?
Great video...thanks! I honestly am trying to be patient as if i have a choice 🙂I cant wait for both of these to be released. Also I don't think the pricing is unreasonable.
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FBW are putting so many payware devs to shame with what they are doing for both the A320 and A380 These could be sold as mid-top tier payware aircraft easily but instead it is just people dedicating their free time to the project.
Exactly, FBW is in a nice contrast with BATC in this video 😅
@otherguy137 Technically, FBW have running costs too, from hosting , content delivery (CDN), and more ... things like websites are not free to host and run even if it's maintained by the community.
BATC has way more running costs, though, as AI is expensive.
The beyond atc price scheming is so convoluted the basic is the only one I would consider ever using dlc model of a specific third party app I just cannot get behind.
So when will it come? is only update everytime from FBW never said nothing about release date
I don’t understand the people complaining about the Beyond ATC model, including the price, the AI voice technology and servers are not theirs, they don’t get to determine the price of the better voices apart from the fact they are supposedly charging them at cost so are not making profit from that or very little.
I also don’t find it complicated, I find it flexible, they have gone out of their way to allow us to make it as cheap or as expensive as we can afford, allowing multiple combinations of setups to dial in what we are willing to accept, I find that great.
It would also be great if the transmission units were cheaper, I get that, but that’s not their fault.
My only concern is the offline mode voice recognition, supposedly that’s being done online also which will use transmission units too. I really don’t see why that part can’t be done locally, other ATC with voice recognition does that.
'not making profit from that or very little' Oh the naivete of some people! 😉
@@almuric1baggins337 oh the paranoia and ignorance of some people. You should have gathered more information before posting that. 🤦🏻
@@WhiteHawk77You are obviously a very stupid little Shitehawk aren't you? Give me any single example of a commercial company that wishes to stay in business by not making a profit from their products/services .... it is simple economics! Perhaps you should have paid more attention to what teacher had to say when you were in school! Fool!
Anyway, a very wise man once told me, that you cannot have a sensible conversation with a fool that doesn't know what he is talking about. Therefore, to that end I shall partake of such sage advice and terminate this discourse herewith. Conversation terminated!
I want to meet FBW’s A380 quickly.
Love your video's. But, may I ask what GA plane you are flying in the beginning of the video and in between the topics? It looks like a really nice modern two-seater. It kinda looks like the Vertigo, but I'm not sure. Thx.
As an IVAO controller beyond atc scares me...
5 minutes of silence for the Vatsim/IVAO ATC's who are going to lose their virtual jobs 😢😂 (with this pricing tho I don't think there's anything you should be scared of)
It would be nice if they release it this year.
The FMS seems to only support TOGA at the moment the rest is greyed out - so still a long way to go
i believe that is just how it looks IRL
this beyond atc subscription model is kinda stupid for us consumers to be honest
This transmission unit stuff is ridiculous. 5 dollars just for 500k points which could all be used in 1 flight.
I think I'll fly on VATSIM with human controllers for free rather than Beyond ATC. The A380 looks promising.
Yeah Beyond ATC pricing does seem fair enough . As they say you can use it for one off payment or you can add on more voices for a few $ more . Not like you have to keep paying sub every month .
You will end up paying more money than a usual subscription, it's really bad.
Not really most will be happy with the base version with one of payment. If you want more voice then just pay for them
@@bigalsplayin Can't use Push-to-Talk tho.
@@bastulwhite6842 Yes you can. The base pack comes with a couple thousand free credits. This, with offline voices, will last you a very long time.
Beyond atc pricing model is so confusing! Want to use 5 bucks per flight, in a pmdg that you already payed 70 dollars for, in a sim were you at minimum payed 60 bucks for, then go ahed! Imagine useing 5 dollars (ish) per flight like NO! its outrageously!!!! Im sure someone will, a go ahed but I sure wont.
Yes A380 will be released when we go to heaven
what reshade preset do you use in the video :D
BeyondATC is technically a good and innovative product for sure. Unfortunately, the absolute nogo here is the fact that you can't use Push-To-Talk offline. The quality of the voices isnt obviously the only criterion for being able to use BATC as a real ATC. This means that for 60$ I only interact with ATC via mouse clicks, and let's be honest here, that has nothing to do with realism. Simple voice recognition in offline mode would have been the least I could have done, because without voice recognition ATC is simply not useful. The prices with traffic for frequent flyers and the Basic model are also considerably more problematic than a subscription and far exceed the cost of a subscription. Who pays 100$ per month for an ATC solution? For a basic price of 60$, I expect voice recognition so that I can at least practice ATC communication in a meaningful way if I have to fall back on the simple voices.
A380 looks stunning, realy looking forward to it :).
Totally agree, the pricing is absurd, No go for me!
@@mr65136 an actual argument would be better than just saying "ur opinion is incorrect"
will it be on xbox?
We will get GTA 6 before we get the A380 🤣
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong-
I want ATC. I want a "robot" to talk to me when I talk to it with my voice.
I do not care how robotic it may sounds, I just want a robot to give me a respond on the other end of VFR/IFR charted flight.
If I pay 60.00 outright, and go only into offline text/speech mode. I will not ever need to spend more than 60.00 USD ever again?
Cracking tip. The A380 should be awesome. I hold hive their 32NX. It works well, I just need practice. Slainte ❤️
I dunno, I think I'd rather pay a small subscription fee for an unlimited premium voice rather than having to purchase transmission units every time I run out.
im presuming the a380X is a Pc exclusive
Obviously, same with the a32NX
hey if you want to take flight simulation to a newer level, i'm sorry but you need a pc
@@salmon_s5408 yea I know I’m probably going to get one soon
Is it coming on console
Is this coming to Xbox?
Overall, I have a positive outlook on life and everything flight simulation. But right now, I'm over of all this endless teaser from various devs like FBW, PMDG, and Fenix. I couldn't care less about all the screenshots etc. Just let me know when it is released.
Its tiring isnt it, but it lets content creators keep smashing out preview videos with the same old messages that gets clicks and views and likes and of course money. Please excuse my scepticism.
calm down karen
i hope nobody buys beyondATC. what a horrible EA like pricing model. price breakdowns for flight sim atc/traffic add-ons should never take over 7 minutes to explain lol
"Transmission Time" is just a Quota in short u use up the quota u gotta pay for more simple. almost in every API nothing new
Great content Captain
Great video, just a quick question. Does anyone know if the FlyByWire A380 is coming to Xbox? I really hope it is!
Sadly no. Because it’s a ‘freeware’ product, Microsoft doesn’t allow freeware in the marketplace, but 3rd party developers. So sadly, FBW A380 will never come to Xbox, we’ll have to wait for the iniBuilds A380 instead, which I’m sure will be just as good.
@@travelcaribbean2009 thats seems too be the problem you want all the benefits of a pc but but you dont want to spend the money for a pc just pull the trigger and get 1
@@Rickk69er nope, can’t. When you under 18 and should obey your parents wishes and when they say you don’t need one, then I’m not gonna… PC’s are outrageous. And just for MSFS to run no better, and only get freeware, it’s not worth 1500 to 2k dollars
@@Rickk69ercomments on TH-cam would be much easier to analyze if the age of the person and more importantly, their disposable income level was visible.
Children and adults with low income or like myself, casual Xbox gamers that found themselves getting hooked on MSFS, are often the ones that can't afford PCs, and/or don't realize how much better the MSFS experience is until they own a PC.
For me, XBOX Series X with a full suite of the Turtle Beach peripherals was an overall 6/10, compared to the 10/10 experienced I'm having on PC.
I spent about 2 years on the platform and just switched 2 months ago, best decision I've ever made, but it wouldn't have been possible without my new higher paying job I got a few months ago
@@Rickk69erthat's aways a pc owners response. Maybe people don't want a pc.
I am seriously disappointed about the BeyondATC model. I am paying for Simbrief because its a complex solution and I really love it but this? Can't use push to talk in basic? That is stupid and they want to drain money from customers. I will not buy this product.
and the a350 when its gonna be released bc i cant fly the a380 with two throttles
You can. Surely not that realistic but if there is for an Engine failure you can do it with the mouse. Or did they announce you can’t bc u can fly the Boeing 747 right ?
Try the FF A350. It's reasonably good.
@@Lord-Wolfie is there and a350 in the sim?
Does anyone care about the FBW A380 anymore? FBW has been teasing us with pictures and previews for years now. I’ve completely lost interest and won’t be downloading it when it is released in 2028.
U do realise it takes years to develop an amazing product right? Especially for free. Be lucky it’s even coming and been developed
@@Kailum8866I agree it can take time to develop. Many are tired of pictures of landing gears, seat cushions, and random buttons over several years. All we are looking at is a paper airplane.
no problem! i take your Spot and fly the mighty A380 this year. ;)
@@Aceuchiha. Release date this year? I think there is a better chance of finding Bigfoot than FBW releasing their plane anytime soon. But hey, if they do, enjoy! :)
Yeah no thanks on the BATC program .. way too complicated, I’ll stick with with IVAO or Vatsim thank you.
Hello. Is it 100% compatible vr.. controllers swtich. Butoon?
Beyond ATC is making a marketing mess of their system. With this cluttered mess of a price model I will not buy it.
Not to mention to use premium for 1 flight it costs about 5 dollars.
Not buying either 👎
Oh great, so they came up with an amazing idea with Beyond ATC and have let the board of directors and the share holders come up with the pricing. Brilliant 🙄
how to say you dont have a clue about AI development and later maintanace cost without saying it.
dam your not very bright are you get a clue
@@mefjuldzhow to say you haven’t got a clue about my background and what I’m involved in without saying it 👍
@@mr65136' Actually, they are taking a LOSS on the smaller packages' I see that naivete abounds amongst some within the MSFS community! 😉
@@mr65136 well it seems beyond ATC have dropped the prices across the board after listening to feedback, seems they MUST have been making more profit than you first thought 🤔
ridiculous amount of money, great tech but totally overpriced!!!
Is it free
Beyond ATC is simply dumb. If I would be an investor in that thing.... I would have sleepless nights for sure :D
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Will it be on xbox??