One thing that annoyed me is how TERRIBLE everybody is at the hound arcade game. If Qingyi held the proxy's hand, it would've been a billion times better. It feels like there is still a lot of friction between the player and the characters, and subsequently, the environment. I hope they expand on this feauture more, I think the reason it isn't perfected is that the scale of the entire update is already massive, and that aspect became overlooked
I can understand that characters feel less interactive than it should since you just walk around and go to predetermined points for conversations which is just characters standing statically... Wished they added more animation for characters' interaction in the future. HOWEVER, saying that Quality Time shouldn't be included because there's no VA is unfair because that's exclusively an EN dub issue. There are other players from many regions who played with CN, JP, and KR dubs who has these characters voiced in the game. 1 dub being unvoiced should not stop a feature being roll out because updates need to be delivered on time. HOWEVER HOWEVER, I truly wouldn't mind if there are more voice lines for the Quality Time...
@@Kuolitee do you really believe that when ALL of hoyoverse's other games are also having english VA issues at the same time? half of HSR characters don't have voices either, and im pretty sure genshin has a few unvoiced main quests as well. the whole "scheduling issues" thing is their way of saying "our voice actors are whiney little babies so yall wont be getting voiced quests until they stop crying" trust me im telling you with experience, anyway have a nice day
@@stefand439 Genshin is confirmed because the studio that was doing the english VA work was part of the strike, but Genshin has already switched studio and only a 2 characters aren't voiced in this update, what suffered the most was Nahida'w birthday event, I think only Cyno and another character was voiced in the whole event, I don't know what HSR had issues with the EN dubbing tho, let's just hope things go back to normal sooner than later.
Only like four characters out of the whole roster it’s not that bad. Most of them are rated characters so you wouldn’t be able to interact with him if you didn’t have them.
Honestly think they should've waited to cook like art or cutscenes for each character and drop quality time with that single art/cutscene at the end like genshin does with certain characters. Feels really rushed honestly.
Yeah, for me it's ZZZ's most poorly done feature heck some characters don't even have voices sand the the quality between all thecharacterss is inconsistent
It definitely leaves a lot to be desired. For example during the 1.4 stream they made it seem like walking around the town and seeing what characters are interested in a bigger deal than it actually was. Like it would activate a special event. (Voiced cutscenes) Then turns out it's just some unvoiced boring ass dialogue with the equivalent of "Hm yes this floor is made of floor" Even as something simple as to telling their experience with this specific place or why they like it is an improvement. I first thought that these quality time events would be similar to when our trust level goes up. An actual dialogue between us and the character and getting to know them, rather than just tagging along with their errand and that's it. If anything this is a somewhat improved version of the hangout event, because at least they don't just spawn next to the agreed location. But I do think they're on the right track with this update, and I could only hope that they'll continue adding more (sex update when?) Also as for Koleda and Lycaon va, iirc it's a scheduling problem but I do agree they shouldn't have added their quality time yet.
I did the Miyabi quality time and it feels like the main 5 quests that reward the polychromes are the part that are generally voice acted and that says something about the character. I don't think every character will like the Proxy in a romantic way, but I do think some of them will hint towards it. Miyabi for example hints towards that
2:56 I'm not gonna hold you Nikke's advise is peak but at the same time these bumass nikkes always be having confusing options lmao But it helps me know/understand the character more which is why I like them a lot
Agree it seems a bit half assed, but I think there's potential for a lot more. That said, it would require Mihoyo to get a little bit of courage. For instance, when Qingyi offers to hold our hand so we don't look like a criminal around her, we should be able to take her up on that offer! It's okay to have some romantic undertones with characters. That's half the selling point, isn't it? Let people take their waifu out on a proper date.
Is a lot better than Trust events, and does stuff I haven't seen in other games, I would love this in Genshin and HSR as well, and the unvoiced stuff wasn't on porpoise, it will get voiced by next update.
Many gacha games have this feature (After all the characters are the selling point and obbvisouly players would want to spend time with said characters) in their games and most do it better then how it was implemented in ZZZ.
@nkoonkukoo I've played a lot of gachas, and while the dating sim aspect has existed in them before, most are in 2D, having the characters walk with you and interact in 3D is one of the things I like about Quality Time, I wish they could interact more, but maybe it'll happen later.
I agree quality time could be better. But I would hate if they add fanservice to quality time bc It would feel too unnatural. I personally really like the current level of fanservice bc they don’t feel too out of place. But if they go more than that, like making the characters fall in love with the MCs, even just in the quality time. That would feel extremely weird, fanservicey, and unnatural. It would dilute the real bond the MC has with said characters in the main story, make the MC look like a player just going around rizzing everyone up, and turn all the great storytelling so far into a cheap ass fanservice, generic harem MC story whose sole’s purpose is to pleases the masses. To be honest, even the current trust events already have plenty of those types of fanservice romantic, clingy lines for some characters that feel really out of character and weird. It feels like they are just put there to please the players who want to hear their favourite characters sweet talk to them. Personally, I prefer the trust events to be more like friend bonding rather than romantic bonding. It’s more accurate to the main story because logically, we only meet these characters a few times on the street here and there. It makes no sense for them to talk to the proxy as if they’re in love with him/her. And in the first place, ZZZ isn’t that type of self-inserting dating sim game anyway. Sure there’s a certain amount of self-inserting and elements of dating sim for fanservice as a side feature, but at the end of the day, Belle and Wise are two distinct characters with their own personalities and convictions. If you prefer to self-insert to do stuff with your characters, then yes there are plenty of other games that are more designed for these purposes, like the recommendations in the video, GFL or Blue Archive. To be real, if any of these characters were gonna fall in love with the Proxy, Nicole would be the ONLY one that makes sense. At least She has known the proxies and had a close relationship with them for a long time, not just a few times on the streets.
I mean it's not really that bad considering that it's just a thing you can do in free time. I want them to upgrade it to Genshin level where you can make choices and get different endings (or like GTA where you can do activities according to your own decisions). The fact that Genshin community hated hangouts still confuses me to this day since those were REALLY good. One man's trash is another man's treasure if I must say
I feel like it could definitely improve in tbe future. Being voiced all the way could help. As for the rest i think it needs to allow for deeper introspection into the caracthers, the story and the lore that surrounds it.
What you mean "character interactions" exactly? And the story is pretty strong until now. Generally pretty good characterisation and logical plots with only small hicups.
You know you’re wrong when the reply in your comment has more like than the comment itself, which has a grand total of zero like, you don’t even like your own comment
@@Roihclem871"Easiest and the best" LMAO chapter 4 and 5 is literally the worst part of the game. Please don't tell me you actually like Saturday morning cartoon villain like Lucius and Bringer. ZZZ is a good game but it's not without flaw
One thing that annoyed me is how TERRIBLE everybody is at the hound arcade game. If Qingyi held the proxy's hand, it would've been a billion times better. It feels like there is still a lot of friction between the player and the characters, and subsequently, the environment. I hope they expand on this feauture more, I think the reason it isn't perfected is that the scale of the entire update is already massive, and that aspect became overlooked
Personally I wish I was able to get the characters to pose up when taking pictures with them. It'd be alot more immersive.
I can understand that characters feel less interactive than it should since you just walk around and go to predetermined points for conversations which is just characters standing statically... Wished they added more animation for characters' interaction in the future.
HOWEVER, saying that Quality Time shouldn't be included because there's no VA is unfair because that's exclusively an EN dub issue. There are other players from many regions who played with CN, JP, and KR dubs who has these characters voiced in the game. 1 dub being unvoiced should not stop a feature being roll out because updates need to be delivered on time.
HOWEVER HOWEVER, I truly wouldn't mind if there are more voice lines for the Quality Time...
Tdev really rushed this feature, it should have been more fleshed out, hope it will improve in future updates
Jane is also unvoiced in Quality time, i hope this doesn't mean she's also going to be recast cuz her existing voice is perfect.
some voice actors are on strike rn, mainly english voice actors, this is because english voice actors for hoyoverse games are sensitive babies
@@stefand439 Hasn't it already been confirmed by at least one of the ZZZ VAs that it is not because of the strike, but actually scheduling issues?
@@Kuolitee do you really believe that when ALL of hoyoverse's other games are also having english VA issues at the same time? half of HSR characters don't have voices either, and im pretty sure genshin has a few unvoiced main quests as well. the whole "scheduling issues" thing is their way of saying "our voice actors are whiney little babies so yall wont be getting voiced quests until they stop crying" trust me im telling you with experience, anyway have a nice day
@@stefand439bro does not believe what the actual VA said
@@stefand439 Genshin is confirmed because the studio that was doing the english VA work was part of the strike, but Genshin has already switched studio and only a 2 characters aren't voiced in this update, what suffered the most was Nahida'w birthday event, I think only Cyno and another character was voiced in the whole event, I don't know what HSR had issues with the EN dubbing tho, let's just hope things go back to normal sooner than later.
i didn't know some EN voices are missing. i've always played gacha games in JP. feels bad for EN bros.
Only like four characters out of the whole roster it’s not that bad. Most of them are rated characters so you wouldn’t be able to interact with him if you didn’t have them.
it's atleast a step in the right direction
So for the lacking voice acting is due to an actor strike, Hoyo mentioned this and apologised for it.
Honestly think they should've waited to cook like art or cutscenes for each character and drop quality time with that single art/cutscene at the end like genshin does with certain characters. Feels really rushed honestly.
Yeah, for me it's ZZZ's most poorly done feature heck some characters don't even have voices sand the the quality between all thecharacterss is inconsistent
@ the lack of voice actors is likely due to the VA strike. Real tragic stuff 😔
It definitely leaves a lot to be desired. For example during the 1.4 stream they made it seem like walking around the town and seeing what characters are interested in a bigger deal than it actually was. Like it would activate a special event. (Voiced cutscenes)
Then turns out it's just some unvoiced boring ass dialogue with the equivalent of "Hm yes this floor is made of floor" Even as something simple as to telling their experience with this specific place or why they like it is an improvement.
I first thought that these quality time events would be similar to when our trust level goes up. An actual dialogue between us and the character and getting to know them, rather than just tagging along with their errand and that's it. If anything this is a somewhat improved version of the hangout event, because at least they don't just spawn next to the agreed location.
But I do think they're on the right track with this update, and I could only hope that they'll continue adding more (sex update when?) Also as for Koleda and Lycaon va, iirc it's a scheduling problem but I do agree they shouldn't have added their quality time yet.
Once when doing a quality time invite event for Harumasa I got stuck between him and the drinks counter and almost got softlocked there
I did the Miyabi quality time and it feels like the main 5 quests that reward the polychromes are the part that are generally voice acted and that says something about the character. I don't think every character will like the Proxy in a romantic way, but I do think some of them will hint towards it. Miyabi for example hints towards that
I don't mind it since the models are the selling point for me in this game.
2:56 I'm not gonna hold you Nikke's advise is peak but at the same time these bumass nikkes always be having confusing options lmao
But it helps me know/understand the character more which is why I like them a lot
Agree it seems a bit half assed, but I think there's potential for a lot more. That said, it would require Mihoyo to get a little bit of courage. For instance, when Qingyi offers to hold our hand so we don't look like a criminal around her, we should be able to take her up on that offer! It's okay to have some romantic undertones with characters. That's half the selling point, isn't it? Let people take their waifu out on a proper date.
Nobody said they're switching voices again Ren, one of the VAs just said there were scheduling issues.
Glad they didn't do it the lazy way
Is a lot better than Trust events, and does stuff I haven't seen in other games, I would love this in Genshin and HSR as well, and the unvoiced stuff wasn't on porpoise, it will get voiced by next update.
Many gacha games have this feature (After all the characters are the selling point and obbvisouly players would want to spend time with said characters) in their games and most do it better then how it was implemented in ZZZ.
@nkoonkukoo I've played a lot of gachas, and while the dating sim aspect has existed in them before, most are in 2D, having the characters walk with you and interact in 3D is one of the things I like about Quality Time, I wish they could interact more, but maybe it'll happen later.
Many gachas had them but only in 2d. Zzz is the only one i know of that's fully 3d@@nkoonkukoo
I agree quality time could be better. But I would hate if they add fanservice to quality time bc It would feel too unnatural. I personally really like the current level of fanservice bc they don’t feel too out of place. But if they go more than that, like making the characters fall in love with the MCs, even just in the quality time. That would feel extremely weird, fanservicey, and unnatural. It would dilute the real bond the MC has with said characters in the main story, make the MC look like a player just going around rizzing everyone up, and turn all the great storytelling so far into a cheap ass fanservice, generic harem MC story whose sole’s purpose is to pleases the masses.
To be honest, even the current trust events already have plenty of those types of fanservice romantic, clingy lines for some characters that feel really out of character and weird. It feels like they are just put there to please the players who want to hear their favourite characters sweet talk to them. Personally, I prefer the trust events to be more like friend bonding rather than romantic bonding. It’s more accurate to the main story because logically, we only meet these characters a few times on the street here and there. It makes no sense for them to talk to the proxy as if they’re in love with him/her. And in the first place, ZZZ isn’t that type of self-inserting dating sim game anyway. Sure there’s a certain amount of self-inserting and elements of dating sim for fanservice as a side feature, but at the end of the day, Belle and Wise are two distinct characters with their own personalities and convictions. If you prefer to self-insert to do stuff with your characters, then yes there are plenty of other games that are more designed for these purposes, like the recommendations in the video, GFL or Blue Archive.
To be real, if any of these characters were gonna fall in love with the Proxy, Nicole would be the ONLY one that makes sense. At least She has known the proxies and had a close relationship with them for a long time, not just a few times on the streets.
I mean it's not really that bad considering that it's just a thing you can do in free time. I want them to upgrade it to Genshin level where you can make choices and get different endings (or like GTA where you can do activities according to your own decisions). The fact that Genshin community hated hangouts still confuses me to this day since those were REALLY good. One man's trash is another man's treasure if I must say
I feel like it could definitely improve in tbe future. Being voiced all the way could help. As for the rest i think it needs to allow for deeper introspection into the caracthers, the story and the lore that surrounds it.
yeah I don't need this snowbreak self insert nonsense. The conversations were 1000 times better.
They should add dating
I'd rather not have master and love stuff from gfl 2 as a form of bonding.
Story and character interaction is definitely zzz weakest point
thats just wrong lmao
The main story is easiest best in the genre?
What you mean "character interactions" exactly?
And the story is pretty strong until now. Generally pretty good characterisation and logical plots with only small hicups.
You know you’re wrong when the reply in your comment has more like than the comment itself, which has a grand total of zero like, you don’t even like your own comment
@@Roihclem871"Easiest and the best"
LMAO chapter 4 and 5 is literally the worst part of the game. Please don't tell me you actually like Saturday morning cartoon villain like Lucius and Bringer. ZZZ is a good game but it's not without flaw