Yukio Mishima on How Hustle Culture Ruined Masculinity

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  • @WriteConscious
    @WriteConscious  หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @ainslie187
    @ainslie187 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    The aim in this life should not be material wealth or even just physical survival- anyone can do that. The aim is to survive as yourself, undiminished.

    • @111Benzie
      @111Benzie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huh?

    • @ainslie187
      @ainslie187 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@111Benziedon’t sell your soul, don’t degrade yourself or others, don’t become miserable/angry/addicted, etc.

    • @lukazuka9269
      @lukazuka9269 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ainslie187op

  • @vrvds
    @vrvds 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Old portuguese saying: "He who does the most, deserves the least".
    This made sense in a religious society where personal ambition and greed were seen as great vices, and where faithfulness and trust in God were seen as great virtues but, needless to say, many people will malign you as a lazy malcontent if you quote it nowadays.

    • @111Benzie
      @111Benzie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Old Polish saying--when it is raining out, bring your umbrella.

  • @guffmuff90
    @guffmuff90 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Please never stop doing these; you're the sanest and most authentic voice I've found in my recently aimless depressive youtube trawling. I never lost my grip on meaning but I admit to being worn out by the cynical and materialistic and stunted humans around me lol. My family is thankfully a rock but I really enjoy and value listening to you, courage comes back the more I listen. Thank you.

  • @TheKlink
    @TheKlink 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i was having this "you need strength for yoga" "discussion a couple weeks ago; i work physically and i've come to realise that what's hurting isn't necessarily what's injury or malfunctioning, it'll be just upstream and downstream from that and so sometimes you need the basics, or perhaps specifics in another discipline to scaffold what you're actually doing, because you'll give out where you're weakest, and that's usually perpendicular to the direction you're usually operating.

  • @ArmwrestlingJoe
    @ArmwrestlingJoe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My goal in life is to create something beyond myself that aims at the “transcendent good”, to face my fears and to live in a way that I see as admirable. This isn’t for social recognition, because it might lead to isolation or a difficulty forming relationships, it is simply to allow me to exist without dread or despair.

  • @juanvillamdg4576
    @juanvillamdg4576 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So glad i ran into your channel, can't wait to watch more videos when i get the chance! Thanks man

  • @ZiggaRats
    @ZiggaRats 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you Ian, I always find your energy and enthusiasm inspiring, and convicting.
    I mean, you grind brother! I just get the sense that you're driven by a higher calling,
    rather than the more malignant motivations we see celebrated in society.
    Hope you're well, thank God summer is almost over!

  • @CommenterFromJupiter
    @CommenterFromJupiter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks like you just hit 19k. I'm glad to see your channel growing. You deserve it.

  • @matheusseefeldt5100
    @matheusseefeldt5100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man, I really dig your way of thinking. Keep on keepin on.

  • @ArmwrestlingJoe
    @ArmwrestlingJoe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I used to be really into weight lifting but cut back because the constant heavy weights and eating left me with brain fog and unable to concentrate. I need a balance with the physical and the intellectual and I find that If I focus on eating better I’m sharper and better in other areas of life

    • @111Benzie
      @111Benzie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If that happened to you its a sign you are unwell. Get a physical with bloodwork, soon.

    • @ArmwrestlingJoe
      @ArmwrestlingJoe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@111Benzie I’m feeling better now I believe I was bulking too quickly

  • @lampyrisnoctiluca9904
    @lampyrisnoctiluca9904 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video! It is now in my watch again list.

  • @DawsonSWilliams
    @DawsonSWilliams 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The ad hominem against Mishima is as poorly founded as the ad hominem against Heidegger-the greatness of Mishima’s literature, and the genius of Heidegger’s philosophy remains untouched.

    • @111Benzie
      @111Benzie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ab hominem? What in the world is that? You must have taken all the "ologies" in college.

    • @DawsonSWilliams
      @DawsonSWilliams หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@111Benzie Nein. It’s a simple term.

    • @Metternich_Enjoyer
      @Metternich_Enjoyer หลายเดือนก่อน

      What Ad Hominem against Mishima would that be?

  • @katfrog98
    @katfrog98 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is not 'off topic,' but have you read Ernst Junger? He's one of the greatest people of the last century. Among many other things, Junger was a great writer, a pioneer of the ecology movement in Germany, the youngest man to win the Pour le Mérite, and he lived to be 102 years old, despite suffering more than a dozen wounds. He was a man of action, and he wrote stories about it.

    • @thadtuiol1717
      @thadtuiol1717 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I should hate that guy, I mean, he killed men from my country in war and kinda bragged about it, but he was definitely onto something.

    • @308enjoyer
      @308enjoyer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@thadtuiol1717a valid criticism, but have you ever considered war is really fun?

    • @COMMANDERKATO
      @COMMANDERKATO 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not without crimes it isnt

  • @SupaJ777
    @SupaJ777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love these videos. This isn't a message I hear in many places. I remember you used to like Goggins, and your point here about the contemplative life is very valid. keep the videos coming!

  • @madseason5614
    @madseason5614 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just subbed, really lijenyour stuff. Keep going etc.

  • @CINEMARTYR
    @CINEMARTYR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Give it up for The Four Cs!

    • @EffectsLoop
      @EffectsLoop 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Frankie Valli & The Four Cs Son
      16:18

  • @trueblueclue
    @trueblueclue 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The emotions thing is true. I've gotten better therapy practicing my religion than reading all the self help books.
    Classical (not this modern excuse for it) masculinity let's men cry. Jesus cried blood when His fate hit Him in the garden of gesthemene. The heroes of the Greek classics cried as well. Catholicism and Orthodoxy have mystical practices (St Teresa of Avila and St John of the Cross) in prayer and contemplation on God and the Faith.
    We Catholics have 9 levels of prayer where each level gets you closer to God. It starts with vocal, goes to mental where you submit the intellect to God, next is submitting the Will to God... all the way down to union with Him. All this is legit.

    • @Dunge0n
      @Dunge0n 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@trueblueclue "Submit the intellect." o boi im laffin 🤣

  • @JaceFalcon
    @JaceFalcon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not to mention, hormozie comes from extravagant privilege, too. Working in the work environment of his choosing from the start.

  • @deviantfish2711
    @deviantfish2711 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like your points, especially regarding the whole "grind" self-help industry. As an aspiring author, I've seen how little it translates into finding my own catharsis with writing.
    I wish you would address the uncomfortable struggle an author has with the relevancy of their work and the necessity of that relevance. Things change so rapidly this day in age, the zeitgeist shifts with such volatility that a novel might be completely irrelevant by the time it's complete. Novels take a long time to write, and the anxiety that extends outward from the hustle and grind mentality seems opposed to this process. I feel that by the time my novel is finished, the entire technology of reading will become irrelevant. Maybe thats why Goggins and Huberman and Peterson and the likes are pushing this time oriented mentality.

  • @driesketels
    @driesketels 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lovely video. Interesting concepts

  • @sinistermister943
    @sinistermister943 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yukio Mishima!!!!!!!!!

  • @P4triotd_o_p_h
    @P4triotd_o_p_h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "But do these people not even hecking care about le family? what about getting the WAIFU"
    What Mishima is talking about is enslavement of young men by schools and jobs, while I am personally not a fan of "da grind", there's no point adorning your cage with pictures of saints and practicing nofap ascetiscism or some shit. That's the biggest sin of modern world, not grinding or hustle culture, the biggest sinners are the ones trying to make you believe you need to have 50s ad family. Would much rather prefer to be a SEAL.

  • @Drawingtillthecasketdrops
    @Drawingtillthecasketdrops 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I may not agree with you not agreeing with mishima's fascism, but I can separate that and subscribe to you and see the importance of what you're doing and how it leaves a positive impact on people's lives. I will be listening to every new drop.

  • @kentjensen4504
    @kentjensen4504 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're speaking my language here, but I want you to know that I listen even more intently when you don't, because I respect you.

  • @TanukiDigital
    @TanukiDigital 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ironically, Mishima was one of the original gym bros. :D

  • @Tuesdays-off
    @Tuesdays-off 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well said

  • @ETJUEGA
    @ETJUEGA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do understand your points and i agree to many of them, even the ones that i agree, i must say that its just not sane to think people should seek enlightment or to improve their mental boundaries on mass, to be more open to new theories, in the example you gave of excercise, maybe to consider a more humane and natural way to gain strenght and dexterity, and not just eat like a mammoth, drink trash and fake protein shakes and lift/pump weights. Or to go out of their way to think on society and how to improve it by improving themselves in a healthy and intelectual way. I wont accept the argument like you mention "the janitor speech" i think, like "its just life, deal with it" "its a shark world out there, eat or be eaten", thats just ego and being accommodating, they acommodate to the fact that those who wield power, be it by strenght or influence, are the ones who succed, and to some degree its true, but thats just the easy way of doing it. Physical strenght doesnt have the same pull as it did 500 years ago, nowdays its only power through influence and fear that matters. And most people are delusional that they can achieve that kind of power through ego and marketing.
    Its really is an insane world out there, but still i cant look and someone and tell them that they are wrong. Because i just cant help to admit that the world is just collapsing little by little, just the monetary and political issues have put even the ones who are awoken and genuinely fighting for a better world in a position that they cant tell if they are going to eat tomorrow or not. The rat race have degraded to a level where most people cant really tell if its better to beg for food on the streets or keep working yourself to death. And i assume you live on the U.S, where to some degree, you still have some freedom of speech and to some degree, freedom to chose the best way to sustain yourself. But what about countries like china, nicaragua or venezuela, not only you have to deal with rampant crime, corruption and the most brutal "shark world" mentality, but also you have no freedom of speech. When saying the wrong things cant get dissapeared, never to be seen again.
    This is the spiral most people are feeling being drag down all over the world, and for this reason, they opt for the basic and most instinctively response that has been proven to get results, brute force, to be a con men, to exploit others, to do what gets you the most amount of reward for less the effort. To be elusive and to be impenetrable, to avoid being associated with weakness, because in doing so, youre signaling your "would be sharks" neighbors to attack you. Short term survival. In this culture, even though i disagree with almost everything of it. I just cant say that they are stupid to act that way. This way of thinking puts food on most families tables.
    Some things gotta change first, i dont know what should come first, but if we all suddenly strive to achieve enlightenment, im afraid nothing will change, we will all be just bodies on a ditch, beggars on the street, or just subscribers to this channel :)
    The ones in power are truly evil, and since everything is massified, its almost impossible to remain clean of their taint or schemes. I think we need to find an enemy, what really holds us down to this basic survival mode. And attack it. Not with brute force obviously. Still i find it all quite confusing and difficult to think about.
    You made a comment about a kid wanting to be just like his dad in a manual labor. And thats a good thing, not because of the dad part, but for the kid wanting to learn a craft. This needs to change in education. Just learning huge amount of random information its useless in todays world. Degrees are a dime a dozen. Corporate world is filled with fake deegres and inflated qualifications, careers can also be achieved by manual labor, kids should be learning to enjoy painting or putting electronics togueter. History should be a discussion and a debate, not just info dump. And math needs to stop being just a dump of numbers and operations, and actually learning how math is all around us. To understand how physics, geometry, society and computers are all connected through numbers. The point of math is not to achieved numbers, its to find solutions to everyday issues. Nobody cares about math because they are unable to associate it with the real world. A shift in education should be the first action, maybe new generations will find better answers.
    Sorry for my english, my browser auto-correct can only go so far.

  • @Yarghu
    @Yarghu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Harrison Bergeron's Costco

  • @earmuhammadalmahathi9094
    @earmuhammadalmahathi9094 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why didn't you continue the make money with poetry course?

  • @javieralvarez1072
    @javieralvarez1072 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you think hustle culture is worse in protestant communities than in catholic ones?

  • @benjaminholt6640
    @benjaminholt6640 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    19:00 this isn't true. It's the introduction of smart phones

  • @aiyahuntacheimumbi236
    @aiyahuntacheimumbi236 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're confusing Autism with apathy and nihilism. Austic people experience intense emotion and desires and often ascribe great meaning to the things around them, their interests, relationships, and routines.

  • @johng4609
    @johng4609 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Suffering is caused by attachment to desire -- this is empirical fact, not just part of the Buddha's Four Noble Truths

    • @Kaa864
      @Kaa864 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Isn’t it impossible to detach from desire , knowing that dopamine is involved and you can’t get rid of dopamine as it’s hard wired in us?.

    • @johng4609
      @johng4609 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I e. the multiplication of desire by 'grind culture' will just fuck you up more if you blindly buy into it

    • @johng4609
      @johng4609 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "I know a girl called Elsa, she's into Alka-Seltzer
      She sniffs it through a cane on a supersonic train
      And she makes me laugh
      I got her autograph
      She done it with a doctor on a helicopter
      She's sniffin' in a tissue, sellin' the Big Issue
      When she finds out
      No one's gonna tell her what I'm on about
      You need to find a way for what you wanna say
      But before tomorrow"
      -- Oasis, 'Supersonic"

    • @johng4609
      @johng4609 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kaa864 Don't think so from personal experience. We can grow our understandings of reality. With reasonable use of such understanding we can reduce/stop our attachment to desires. Dopamine -driven desires can continue to occur, but how we handle those events varies with our understandings

    • @johng4609
      @johng4609 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There might be some linguistic quibbling here, i.e. detachment vs non& attachment, but I think you get my drift

  • @carrion-vj1yz
    @carrion-vj1yz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i was an atheist.................for a week.

    • @korololo8466
      @korololo8466 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      do it again

    • @carrion-vj1yz
      @carrion-vj1yz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@korololo8466 Nah, I'm good.

  • @swordguy1243
    @swordguy1243 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The janitor 🤓 = reddit mod

    • @111Benzie
      @111Benzie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oy Vey!

  • @JaceFalcon
    @JaceFalcon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Janitors? Why pick on them. The least privileged people in society. One bad experience? Change it hormozie voice.

    • @Tuesdays-off
      @Tuesdays-off 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m thinking that ‘janitors’ was used metaphorically. Describing people trying to moderate the discussion. Not sure if this was the intent, but have heard forum moderators referred to as janitors before.

    • @watcherofthewest8597
      @watcherofthewest8597 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you've worked in a public school, you know there are some very hard working and kind janitors...there are also janitors that despise the teachers and students and think the school is their personal property.

  • @Drawingtillthecasketdrops
    @Drawingtillthecasketdrops 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn dude drop the name Earl Nightingale yes!