"...They sent a warrior out to kill me. I've never come so close to dying" Realizing Duncan skirted around that he had to KILL that warrior inorder to be accepted by the Fremman, something Paul had to learn the hard way..
It's insane to imagine the level of skill that Fremen must have had to nearly kill Duncan, considering we see him kill something like a dozen Sardaukar in his last stand.
@@justinlee790 Also insane to think that Paul absolutely shit on Jamis who is supposedly a good warrior of the Fremen...further cementing that Paul is just op af
@@RapTapTap I mean dude has atriedes combat training from literally the two best tactical swordsman in the known universe and the prhana bindu training from a bene gesserit, and mentat/ assassin tactics from Thufir, Paul was an absolute monster of an emperor by the time Messiah came around
Same. Would be a good way to fit in some world building with the Atredes taking stock of their situation. Little bits of character development through how the different command officers of the house respond to things.
@@lukelim5094 Nope. TV writers love to create drama where there is none to drag the series as long as possible. Look at how poorly GoT was managed after season 3
@@harryshuman9637 There are plenty viewer that are just to stupid to understand the importance of those scenes. Could it been written better? Probably yes. We are talking about George Lucas after all, but the core message is still present.
For context, Duncan is a 10th level sword master of Gianz. The highest rank attainable and for him to say that he ‘never came so close to dying’ by a fremen says a lot of their fighting capabilities!
A Warrior ...One Fremen ... and he has never come so close to dying ... he is finally killed after defeating 19 Sardukar single handed.. The Fremen later defeat a hundred Sardukar and capture three (unheard of) ... ...and *then* after that they are trained.....
There was seriously room for it, but I suspect Warner Bros was like "Nah we need more action hurry up, people aren't interested" little did they know, almost every single person I know who watched it wished the movie was at least an hour longer lmao.
"And they shall suck up the abundance of the seas, and the treasure hid in the sand." One of the things I love about Gurney is his poetic and philosophical nature. And I can't forget, the music when Duncan arrives is just so... patriotic, cheerful and valiant, just like the bagpipes of House Atreides. The French Horn is a perfect instrument for Duncan Idaho. And that hug with Paul makes me smile so damn much. I know if he was a real character, I'd want him by my side.
>And they shall sup at the abundance of the seas, and the treasure hid in the sand< Gurney quoting the Orange Catholic bible. The predominant religious practice of the era. What the non-book readers don't know is that Gurney Haleck is a religious zealot, it shows through a bit when he does the knife training with Paul on Calidan.
Unfortunately the book introduces some of the coolest characters in fiction, Leto, Kynes, Halleck, Idaho, then takes a left turn and kills them all off early on. The first three Prequel books by Herbert's son are really good and deal more with those characters.
@@impersonal6650 the first 2 books are amazing, the 3rd to 6th are decent but become progressively more difficult to read as they get unbalanced. Multiple timejumps, new characters and endless philosophical conversations.
I wish Denis Villeneuve had done shorts for Dune like he did for Blade Runner 2049, centered around Duncan’s mission to the Fremen. First one might be his briefing with the Duke before he sets out, second one from the Fremen’s perspective showing them observing and confronting him, and third showing his acceptance and living in Sietch Tabr.
Well from what I heard Denis actually wrote and maybe even shot a couple of scenes where Idaho made planetfall on Arrakis to find the Fremen. For personal interest I tried to dig more information about the Atreides Stealth Fighter, when we saw Duncan for the first time. I always wondered why they designed such a detailed ship for only one scene. Then I found out that Denis planned a scene where Duncan flew with his Stealth Fighter to Arrakis to establish contact with the Fremen. This scene is considered as a deleted scene. If Denis ever release an extended Version, your desire will be fullfilled.
That be too long. The book itself is very detailed on its known universe. Dennis can't just cramp every string of cotton into one whole movie. Its like fat piece of steak with the fattest fat cap in the middle and you gotta trimp it down
Duncan is so damn cool. I appreciate how Jason delivers his lines. You can hear the reverence he has. Like "these people are badasses y'all. They actually almost killed me"
After Idaho is finishing taking about the fremen's fighting prowess, I can't help but imagine Leto saying "Desert Power!" Like a power ranger saying " it's Morphing time!"
Leto’s thinking, “Spice isn’t the only thing Arrakis has to offer.” Duke Leto’s own legions were made up of Caladan’s finest, but he knew his son’s armies would consist of men from these sietches. House Harkonnen was blind to the true riches of these dunes. Unrealised *Desert Power.*
In another video about the spice inspection, you can see a comm-bead just below and behind Thufir's ear. Covering up the ear would just make it easier to hear the bead
So funny thing.. it IS NOT 10191 Anno Domini. It's 10191 **AG** (meaning After Guild). SO this is not 8,000 years in the future; our whole civilization was apparently almost wiped out, THEN the spacing Guild (I assume) fires up at AG 0, THEN 10,191 years more, and NOW we come to the events of Dune. All in all, maybe 20,000 years in the future That's a lot of time. Lol you could probably just squeeze all of Star Trek into that little bubble before our social collapse. Actually I think that's called the Butlerian jihad, where AI becomes self-deterministic and antagonistic against its "former oppressors" aka US DUMB APES, which is why ornithopters/ships/Dune in frickin general has NO computers at all. WHICH REALLY I mean geez, if you lose an entire intergalactic federation of planets AND enough of your own society to make your own calendar irrelevant to your own techy creation that you used to use to make sex robots... You're going to remember that shit for a while) Dune has toooooonnnnnnns of lore 👌
it's 10000 yrs of imperium...that means limited space travel, colonization, artificial intelligence, war with the machines all happens and then the history starts...
I love how hungry Leto sounds when he says "Desert power." when referring to the fighting Fremen. He still treats Stilgar with respect and sees his humanity, but there's something so monstrous how badly he wants to use a whole people as an army.
He is now owner of the planet, its his fiefdom, from his point of view, they are all now "his people". And sadly, for every leader, king, president, whatever, even humans are resources.
His hunger is justified. He knows he's been sent into a trap set by the Emperor/Harkonnens, and a fighting force of tens of thousands of Fremen who already hate the Harkonnen would be perfect to escape it. Leto was incorrect in thinking he had more time than he actually did to negotiate with the Fremen
So nice seeing the book get the space and time it needs to be properly explored on film. The 1984 movie was entertaining, but it had too much cut from it to really be any kind of film adaptation.
@@cennon Yeah it definitely felt more like "inspired by Dune" rather than, "this is the film adaptation we've been waiting for." The 1984 movie made an impression, there was passion behind it, and like I said it was definitely entertaining, it just didn't satisfy our desire to see the book on film.
@@amramjose children of dune? If so I did enjoy it, hard to do it justice in a TV series at the time. Dont think we will ever see a tv or movie adaptation of God Emperor Leto or anything about th3 golden path. Wouldnt be enough to hold interest for regular movie goers.
Yep. Duncan was raised by Duke Leto so he sees Paul as a younger brother. But I also love the fact that Duncan is the first person to bow to Paul as the new Duke Atreides.
Not just any Atreides. Duncan was supposed to be 'swordmaster of Ginaz', among the top fighters in the Atreides army (Gurney is the other one). So imagine you are Duke Leto hearing that one of his top fighters was nearly killed in a 1:1 fight by a random Fremen. Would you be thinking that Duncan had lost his touch, or that the Fremen are extremely dangerous fighters and you need to get their loyalty ASAP?
Duncan was a level 10 sword master of ginaz and was supposed to be one of the greatest fighters in the universe after he died the sardukar respected Duncan so much they look his body and down the line he came back as a gola
There was a lot from the book that was not carried into the movie. Like the origin of the Sardauker was a real mystery to the whole emperium with only rumours about where these incredible fighters came from. Paul only figures it out much later whereas in the movie they just go there upfront. I didn't mind though as I can only just wonder at how you would fit everything in that book into a movie or even multiple movies. It is simply too much, you just have to make the story work.
If the sequels are able to do this movie justice I think we could see a trilogy that could be near the level of LotR which are currently, and have been my favorite movies since their release.
Every time I re-watch this movie I always notice new things. For example, at 0:08 I've just noticed how disappointed Thufir is with himself being unable to protect Paul from his encounter with the hunter seeker while Gurney parades about it. I love this movie.
The books are vastly more instricate and complex. The part 2 of the movie will only mirror the beginning of the story in the books, it will go on getting deeper and more complex by the page. And also more awesome by the page.
It is worthy to mention that Duncan Idaho was a Swordmaster of Ginaz, a student of an elite school of sword combat that rivaled or even surpased the Sardaukar. When he says someone is tough, you better believe it
I don’t understand how a Fremen tried to kill Duncan, but Duncan survived and befriended the Fremen after the fight, because later in the film when Paul fights a Fremen warrior and bests him, letting the warrior live isn’t an option as the Fremen don’t seem to understand mercy and think Paul is humiliating him, so how did Duncan do it?
jamis invoked the amtal rule (translates to being tested to destruction). the amtal rule probably wasn't invoked in the fight involving duncan (I cant remember from the book)
I would presume the Fremen sent one of their best. When he failed, rather than throwing good money after bad, so-to-speak, the Fremen investigated further and chose to talk, giving Duncan a chance to make his case.
I don’t know why but I really love this scene of them sitting at the council meeting talking about strategies. It gives the movie more contacts. Also I just hope that if this franchise continues they don’t mirror the book so much cause there’s some parts in that series that should not make it to the big screen. Y’all know what I’m talking about if you read the books 📚 🙄
I think it was something closer to AI that was outlawed. AI was banned as a result of the Butlerian Jihad, which occurred 10,000 years before the events of the story. Plenty of time to come up with other types of computing processes. The chief commandment was: “Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of the human mind.”
@@djamac360 It also depends on what planet you're on. Some planets kept to the ban more strictly than others. Ix flagrantly disobeyed the rules and produced AI and other machines for millennia.
We didn't need computers to invent helicopters or airplanes or rocket engines, just good mechanical engineering skills and a strong understanding of physics and math. In the 60's, NASA went to the moon using mostly slide rulers to do their calculations.
The Harkonens were take $60,000,000,000 every year in the book. Changing the number lessens the perception of the importance of Spice; without Spice Steersman cannot guide Guild ships, any Bene Geserit who uses it for truth-sense or to become a Reverend Mother becomes dependent on it &, life expectancy decreases- in the book Dune the Emperor is in his late 70s but still has the body and appearance of a healthy 35 year old because slows aging. It is the substance that allows for human controlled safe space-folding travel but, it also gives trained people the ability to detect lies &, actually let's people stay young longer and it can't be synthesized and that is before Paul gains prescience from it...... Spice is the most valuable substance in the known universe and it can only be found on 1 planet
Changing their income from the book doesn't magically take away any explanation of who all uses the spice and for what. 10 billion a year for anything is a hell of a lot and they did plenty to explain how important the spice is and how dependent they are on it
Duncan Idaho. Same dude that killed sardaukar like they were helpless npcs got close to dying against one fremen. The emperor was joking when he said old men, women, and children of the fremen could fight.
I love how Jason Momoa plays these tough guys roles but still is a bro, I hate how dudes play the tough guy attitude and don't show any happiness or affection
Why do I feel that Thufir Hawat only cared truly about his professional carreer and reputation as a Mentat, and that being forced to stay there after the hunter seeker accident he just got more sloppy and bitter.
Am I weird for wanting to see an entire movie about them discussing the logistics of spice harvesting, diplomacy with the Fremen, security risks with the Harkonnen as well as Duncan, Gurney, Paul, Thurfey and Leto being besties together?
This looks great, and it seems like Villeneuve really cared. However, I don't remember Duncan living with the Fremen and reporting back on it. Was that in the book? (I read it a couple of times, a while ago.)
When Gurney makes fun of Paul for catching the hunter seeker, you can see Thufir silent and ashamed knowing that he failed to secure the palace and put Paul's life at risk
The first Dune novel is like Game of Thrones in space. Daenerys Targaryen: "Nothing is more powerful then a Dragon !" Paul Atreides; "Hold my Sandtrout."
OK, so I did a bit of top pof my head calculations on beat forces of ornithopter lift system. Dragonfly is the model. So that means, adjusting for size, and mass, a realistic frequency is 10,000 BPM. Assuming a carbon-fibre/hi tech metal compostite in hinges, and connector gears. The G forces load on dynamic components is well over 1000G. Approaching 5000G at tips. Ornithopter is not a variation on helicopter. In Earth's nature , the closest thing to an organic helicopter are seedleafs of some trees, who operate on principle of autorotation for dispersal. No bird, insect, or any animal on record made use of rotary airfoils. Bird wings operate on principle on mission adaptable airfoil, changing shape to control amount of lift, including stall when landing. But epicyclic beat pattern of insects is close to 400 million years. That is the model that ornithopter appears to use.
So not sure what you are saying here. It's not feasible? G loads don't tell you the stresses in the material fibres of the blades. You would need to know what peak stresses arise from such accelerations and then compare against ultimate strength of this material. And even you did the sums and if carbon-fibre is not feasible then you could assume that some additional progress has been made in material science. Graphene is order of magnitude stronger - and thats available now. What would be available in 10 thousand years time - when this is set? ... well, lets assume .....and accept that it's potentially plausible ... or suspend disbelief.
ALSO 1) different planet = different force of gravity (tho.. it *looks* similar to Earth, so mby next point) 2) potentially different space metals? Boom, I just completely validated all of Dune 😗
@@pangolin7570Actually Dune is 20,000 years in our future. But I totally agree with your point. Their material and metallurgical sciences by that point would probably blow our minds.
I will say after part 2, this movie isn’t as great as some people say. But that is because it is suppose to set up what comes next. This movie needs to be 6+ hours to get the full feeling of it. I still love part 1 but part 2 just has so much to it.
I want the board meeting to go longer I’m just soo Intrigued what world they live in and their reactions to oversee their economy Just sci-fi politics No the starwars prequels didn’t scratch that itch they had Space knights, going from that to politics is a step down
The problem with this movie is that it's too short. Major character have very little to almost no dialogue. The movie even has a random scene of a desert rat.
(SPOILERS FOR PART 2) The mouse is important later in the story because it becomes its name becomes apart of Paul’s new name when he lives with the fremen. Having it there foreshadows his life with the fremen, and everything that came with it
Every time I watch clips of this movie, I want to go play the new Dune... Sadly, the new Dune is not that great with its units and I'm disappointed... till I see another clip from the movie and the cycle repeats itself. 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️😥
2:10 "I swear you'e getting taller" "Well you smell much worse" This interaction doesn't make any sense to me... Is it an error? Or is it that he misheard him because of the background noise?
"Well you smell much worse" doesn't follow up the "I swear you're getting taller" it's just a way to say "you smell much worse than you did before (like he is telling him he had always smelled). They just both tell humorous insult to one another. One does not reference the other. Intonation would make that clearer, so maybe it is really muffled in the background noise to get it correctly right away.
Duncan Idaho greatest fighter in the universe: "I have never come so close to dying, they fight like demons" Paul kills a Fremen easily later in the movie with ease, had more struggle fighting Josh Brolin in training than fighting with the non-MENA Fremen group cast.
Honestly would love a movie just on Duncan and his rise to being a sword master. Still new to the Dune stories and lore but if there is a book about it I would love to read it.
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Dumb Movie....I couldn't watch no more than a third and walked out. Waste of Money.
A ninja wouldn't spend money on a ticket. Just sneak in using your ninja skills.
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OH??? You didn't know?? Hmmmm. LMFAO 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
You must have severe poor taste in movies 😂 and the fact you click on this video just to leave this comment is hilarious
> Clicks on a Dune clip
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> Refuses to elaborate further
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I'm sure they'll refund you the moment they read how butthurt you were on a TH-cam video.
"...They sent a warrior out to kill me. I've never come so close to dying"
Realizing Duncan skirted around that he had to KILL that warrior inorder to be accepted by the Fremman, something Paul had to learn the hard way..
It's insane to imagine the level of skill that Fremen must have had to nearly kill Duncan, considering we see him kill something like a dozen Sardaukar in his last stand.
@@justinlee790 In fairness that warrior may have tried a surprise attack like coming out of the sand thus catching Dunkan off guard
@@justinlee790 Also insane to think that Paul absolutely shit on Jamis who is supposedly a good warrior of the Fremen...further cementing that Paul is just op af
@@RapTapTap I mean dude has atriedes combat training from literally the two best tactical swordsman in the known universe and the prhana bindu training from a bene gesserit, and mentat/ assassin tactics from Thufir, Paul was an absolute monster of an emperor by the time Messiah came around
duncan skirt around killing people ????? he practically killed countless harkonnens and everyone in the room know it
.. Must admit, I would love to just watch them talk about the logistics, economy, the political shenanigans and their government ruling.
Same. Would be a good way to fit in some world building with the Atredes taking stock of their situation. Little bits of character development through how the different command officers of the house respond to things.
@@theliato3809 r u suggesting a long running tv series?
@@lukelim5094 Nope. TV writers love to create drama where there is none to drag the series as long as possible. Look at how poorly GoT was managed after season 3
You think that's why George Lucas tried to bore us to death with trade negotiations in Phantom Menace?
@@harryshuman9637 There are plenty viewer that are just to stupid to understand the importance of those scenes. Could it been written better? Probably yes. We are talking about George Lucas after all, but the core message is still present.
Note that everyone but the members of Intelligence laugh. Nice touch considering the Hunter Seeker instance was viewed as a failure on their part.
You can see that they wear slightly more grey-ish uniforms than the others, definitely the intelligence arm
Oh wow, I missed this. Nice touch.
That hug between Josh, Jason, and Timothee. I felt such joy. Three generations embracing with such joy.
Anyone know the song in that moment? I listened to the soundtrack and didnt hear it?
@@judaychop someone has put a cut together if you search Duncan Idaho theme. Unfortunately not on the soundtrack
For context,
Duncan is a 10th level sword master of Gianz. The highest rank attainable and for him to say that he ‘never came so close to dying’ by a fremen says a lot of their fighting capabilities!
They live on a planet where just _walking_ the wrong way can get you killed.
but he lied, though.. he killed one of them, because Fremmen traditions demand it
@@Yerassyl1991how did he lied?
A Warrior ...One Fremen ... and he has never come so close to dying ... he is finally killed after defeating 19 Sardukar single handed..
The Fremen later defeat a hundred Sardukar and capture three (unheard of) ...
...and *then* after that they are trained.....
@@davidioanhedges You truly get the impression that the Fremen were the only ones who could take on the Sardaukar one on one in a battle
Every time Jason momoa say “yaaahhh my boy” I feel quite happy
Him and Paul’s bond is so beautiful 🥹
Thanks to that meme of Momoa and Cavill, that half crouch, "I'm gonna hug ya" run he does is practically a trademark
I could have watched a whole movie just about Paul and his three dads. 😭
Nah it was a dad, uncle and an older brother
There was seriously room for it, but I suspect Warner Bros was like "Nah we need more action hurry up, people aren't interested" little did they know, almost every single person I know who watched it wished the movie was at least an hour longer lmao.
Dad, Uncle, Older brother and Grandfather.
I'm assuming those are Leto, Gurney Halleck, Duncan Idaho and Thufir Hawat?
@@objectdefiance4027 Yup, Yup.
"And they shall suck up the abundance of the seas, and the treasure hid in the sand." One of the things I love about Gurney is his poetic and philosophical nature.
And I can't forget, the music when Duncan arrives is just so... patriotic, cheerful and valiant, just like the bagpipes of House Atreides. The French Horn is a perfect instrument for Duncan Idaho. And that hug with Paul makes me smile so damn much.
I know if he was a real character, I'd want him by my side.
I just love the interactions between these characters. The actors and the director did well.
In the books, Duncan is very very vital to the grand scheme of things. Mainly the golden path
>And they shall sup at the abundance of the seas, and the treasure hid in the sand< Gurney quoting the Orange Catholic bible. The predominant religious practice of the era. What the non-book readers don't know is that Gurney Haleck is a religious zealot, it shows through a bit when he does the knife training with Paul on Calidan.
@@clintsmith8656 So he's based, nice.
I believe the actor being Jason Momoa does help things along.
I wish they showed more interactions between Gurney and Idaho, they seemed like they were great friends from the little scenes with them together
Unfortunately the book introduces some of the coolest characters in fiction, Leto, Kynes, Halleck, Idaho, then takes a left turn and kills them all off early on. The first three Prequel books by Herbert's son are really good and deal more with those characters.
@@ricardocastillo5485 I heard a hell lot of bad comments about Brian Herbert's books. Are they even decent?
@@impersonal6650 the first 2 books are amazing, the 3rd to 6th are decent but become progressively more difficult to read as they get unbalanced. Multiple timejumps, new characters and endless philosophical conversations.
@@ricardocastillo5485 Gurney Halleck is still alive in the Children of Dune book. The third in the series!
@@BlaneNostalgia Definitely the first 2 are the best.
I wish Denis Villeneuve had done shorts for Dune like he did for Blade Runner 2049, centered around Duncan’s mission to the Fremen. First one might be his briefing with the Duke before he sets out, second one from the Fremen’s perspective showing them observing and confronting him, and third showing his acceptance and living in Sietch Tabr.
That would have been awesome. Quite a missed opportunity.
Well from what I heard Denis actually wrote and maybe even shot a couple of scenes where Idaho made planetfall on Arrakis to find the Fremen.
For personal interest I tried to dig more information about the Atreides Stealth Fighter, when we saw Duncan for the first time. I always wondered why they designed such a detailed ship for only one scene. Then I found out that Denis planned a scene where Duncan flew with his Stealth Fighter to Arrakis to establish contact with the Fremen. This scene is considered as a deleted scene.
If Denis ever release an extended Version, your desire will be fullfilled.
That be too long. The book itself is very detailed on its known universe. Dennis can't just cramp every string of cotton into one whole movie. Its like fat piece of steak with the fattest fat cap in the middle and you gotta trimp it down
I would love an extended edition, director’s cut, getting to see all those scenes.
Actually, those Blade Runner shorts were directed by Luke Scott, the son of Ridley Scott
I love that Duncan feels like an older brother to Paul.
rewatching my heart breaks seeing them all together and happy
with two mentors like that no wonder he became such a warrior
1:58 I only just noticed Stillgar over there, where Duncan is pointing.
Duncan is so damn cool. I appreciate how Jason delivers his lines. You can hear the reverence he has. Like "these people are badasses y'all. They actually almost killed me"
After Idaho is finishing taking about the fremen's fighting prowess, I can't help but imagine Leto saying "Desert Power!" Like a power ranger saying " it's Morphing time!"
it is more like simpson's episode everytime homer was given desert after dinner
IT'S SPICING TIME!
Leto’s thinking, “Spice isn’t the only thing Arrakis has to offer.”
Duke Leto’s own legions were made up of Caladan’s finest, but he knew his son’s armies would consist of men from these sietches.
House Harkonnen was blind to the true riches of these dunes. Unrealised *Desert Power.*
THe Fremen must indeed be powerful considering they have no native food or water. They live on pure plot armor MILLIONS of them underground!
When you ask "how bad it is?" and reaction is "I'll better show you" it means it's pretty fucking bad.
Ugh the relationship paul has with duncan
It's like a little brother/big brother bond that makes his death later so impactful.
I love that even in the year 10191, there is no more reliable way to communicate than to shove your finger in your ear.
In another video about the spice inspection, you can see a comm-bead just below and behind Thufir's ear. Covering up the ear would just make it easier to hear the bead
So funny thing.. it IS NOT 10191 Anno Domini. It's 10191 **AG** (meaning After Guild). SO this is not 8,000 years in the future; our whole civilization was apparently almost wiped out, THEN the spacing Guild (I assume) fires up at AG 0, THEN 10,191 years more, and NOW we come to the events of Dune. All in all, maybe 20,000 years in the future
That's a lot of time. Lol you could probably just squeeze all of Star Trek into that little bubble before our social collapse. Actually I think that's called the Butlerian jihad, where AI becomes self-deterministic and antagonistic against its "former oppressors" aka US DUMB APES, which is why ornithopters/ships/Dune in frickin general has NO computers at all. WHICH REALLY I mean geez, if you lose an entire intergalactic federation of planets AND enough of your own society to make your own calendar irrelevant to your own techy creation that you used to use to make sex robots... You're going to remember that shit for a while)
Dune has toooooonnnnnnns of lore 👌
Yeah, present day is around 16000 BG, so it’s more than 25,000 years in the future.
@@klausjohnson4133 I dig the correction 👌
it's 10000 yrs of imperium...that means limited space travel, colonization, artificial intelligence, war with the machines all happens and then the history starts...
I love how hungry Leto sounds when he says "Desert power." when referring to the fighting Fremen. He still treats Stilgar with respect and sees his humanity, but there's something so monstrous how badly he wants to use a whole people as an army.
Well, in his defense, Leto knows this is a game of life and death. And he's trying to create a safe world for Paul.
He is now owner of the planet, its his fiefdom, from his point of view, they are all now "his people". And sadly, for every leader, king, president, whatever, even humans are resources.
You really naturally understand the Atreides then. They are honorable but they do exploit the fremen.
I like this, the heroes might be more honorable than most but they're still terrible, from the few scraps of info I've read on anyway.
His hunger is justified. He knows he's been sent into a trap set by the Emperor/Harkonnens, and a fighting force of tens of thousands of Fremen who already hate the Harkonnen would be perfect to escape it. Leto was incorrect in thinking he had more time than he actually did to negotiate with the Fremen
Everytime I see Duncan emerge from the Copter I have to think: "NO capes" --- damn conditioning
Lol i understand that reference
But Cape is cool
It's not a cape, it's a cloak. Aka it actually has a function.
reddit-induced autism
So nice seeing the book get the space and time it needs to be properly explored on film.
The 1984 movie was entertaining, but it had too much cut from it to really be any kind of film adaptation.
Honestly they could of made the 1984 into separate movies but did not want to make it seem like star wars.
The 1984 version felt like a cliffs notes version of Dune.
@@cennon Yeah it definitely felt more like "inspired by Dune" rather than, "this is the film adaptation we've been waiting for." The 1984 movie made an impression, there was passion behind it, and like I said it was definitely entertaining, it just didn't satisfy our desire to see the book on film.
And the series made later were awful. This movie was as good an adaptation of the book as possible.
@@amramjose children of dune? If so I did enjoy it, hard to do it justice in a TV series at the time. Dont think we will ever see a tv or movie adaptation of God Emperor Leto or anything about th3 golden path. Wouldnt be enough to hold interest for regular movie goers.
I love how despite being dressed the same you can see which ones Tifur's men are. They are the only ones not laughing and being embarrassed.
They seem to be wearing grey, you can see them on both sides of him. The rest wear dark green
Duncan is true bad ass loyal to the end and fearless.
Thufir might carry an umbrella but don't let that ruse get to you, his mind is as dangerous as it gets.
Mentat Master of Assassins. Would love to see a prequel showing a young Thufir
@@technopirate304Would have liked it if they didn't drop his character in Part 2
I love that BRO energy between Duncan and Paul
Knowing what'll happen later in the story, it's moments like that I'm going to miss since we'll never see them again.
@@clippers1731 So true, and it's a damn shame.
Yep. Duncan was raised by Duke Leto so he sees Paul as a younger brother.
But I also love the fact that Duncan is the first person to bow to Paul as the new Duke Atreides.
When an Atreides says the enemy was a good fighter then damn they must've been good! Love this film!
The problem was he was fighting away from water
@@gargoyles9999 well then lets head back and prepare jerusalem for a siege
Not just any Atreides. Duncan was supposed to be 'swordmaster of Ginaz', among the top fighters in the Atreides army (Gurney is the other one).
So imagine you are Duke Leto hearing that one of his top fighters was nearly killed in a 1:1 fight by a random Fremen. Would you be thinking that Duncan had lost his touch, or that the Fremen are extremely dangerous fighters and you need to get their loyalty ASAP?
You probably already know this but the Fremen are the equal best, if not the best, fighters in the universe.
Duncan was a level 10 sword master of ginaz and was supposed to be one of the greatest fighters in the universe after he died the sardukar respected Duncan so much they look his body and down the line he came back as a gola
"Desert power."
I love that line 😂.
Rereading the book at the moment. It was a secret at first that Liet and Kynes were the same person. Paul only realises after Kynes' death.
There was a lot from the book that was not carried into the movie. Like the origin of the Sardauker was a real mystery to the whole emperium with only rumours about where these incredible fighters came from. Paul only figures it out much later whereas in the movie they just go there upfront. I didn't mind though as I can only just wonder at how you would fit everything in that book into a movie or even multiple movies. It is simply too much, you just have to make the story work.
Isaacs has the acting presence of a man comfortable in command.
Jason is the ultimate Duncan Idaho.
If the sequels are able to do this movie justice I think we could see a trilogy that could be near the level of LotR which are currently, and have been my favorite movies since their release.
Now all we need is Messiah and one of the best trilogies ever created will be complete. Denis has a masterpiece on his hands.
Every time I re-watch this movie I always notice new things. For example, at 0:08 I've just noticed how disappointed Thufir is with himself being unable to protect Paul from his encounter with the hunter seeker while Gurney parades about it. I love this movie.
i just noticed this too
The "'thopter" animation was extraordinarily lifelike, I just feel it stopped rather abruptly
I absolutely love this movie soooo soooo looking forward to part 2 it also has me reading the books
The books are vastly more instricate and complex. The part 2 of the movie will only mirror the beginning of the story in the books, it will go on getting deeper and more complex by the page. And also more awesome by the page.
2:54 Duncan says "there's no finer fighter in the Imperium", Gurney is like "mmm...."
I like how Gurney looks at Paul with a smile as if to say, "You can meet Duncan" as Paul and Gurney head to the fighter jet that Duncan is riding in.
It is worthy to mention that Duncan Idaho was a Swordmaster of Ginaz, a student of an elite school of sword combat that rivaled or even surpased the Sardaukar.
When he says someone is tough, you better believe it
“They fight like demons” so badass!
I don’t understand how a Fremen tried to kill Duncan, but Duncan survived and befriended the Fremen after the fight, because later in the film when Paul fights a Fremen warrior and bests him, letting the warrior live isn’t an option as the Fremen don’t seem to understand mercy and think Paul is humiliating him, so how did Duncan do it?
Granted he never said he spared the guy and maybe it was just a surprise attack and not a formal challenge.
jamis invoked the amtal rule (translates to being tested to destruction). the amtal rule probably wasn't invoked in the fight involving duncan (I cant remember from the book)
I have a theory. He killed the guy, but he killed him so well that the fremen were impressed, and they welcomed him
That fight was a challenge with set rules. Duncan was just attacked as a more military situation
I would presume the Fremen sent one of their best. When he failed, rather than throwing good money after bad, so-to-speak, the Fremen investigated further and chose to talk, giving Duncan a chance to make his case.
Absolutely love how they portrayed the relationships between the characters - could have watched more of this.
2:02 "AQUAMAN!"
"AHHH my boy!"
I was watching donuts 🍩 videos and when I saw duncan, I couldn't comprehend what dunkin donuts had to do with fremen initially.
The coffee must flow
2:07-2:08 That's how I want to hug Jason Momoa. He must be a bear hugger.
Who notices the Atredies soldier in the meeting room and background after seeing Dune 2?
Pretty cool tbh, if only we have a video on money, logistics like how many people there were on the planet etc. I’d love to hear more of Duncan
AHHHH MA BOI
i love Paul and Duncans realtionship, it was so cute 😭
..i wish my meetings lasted 30 seconds and ended in a field trip.
I don’t know why but I really love this scene of them sitting at the council meeting talking about strategies. It gives the movie more contacts. Also I just hope that if this franchise continues they don’t mirror the book so much cause there’s some parts in that series that should not make it to the big screen. Y’all know what I’m talking about if you read the books 📚 🙄
If Duncan knew at this point what the future holds for him. 😢 it’s hard to go back to the beginning after reading the books.
Duncan calling him “my boy” and picking him up…that little moment tells you everything about their relationship.
Duncan Idaho is hands down the best character in the whole book series/
no he is not , the best character is the one that become a worm
Amo a Gusanin-Kun, pero...Duncan lo merece todo... Él gusano no merece nada.
How do they have all of these machines if computers are outlawed?
Only thinking machines are outlawed.
I think it was something closer to AI that was outlawed. AI was banned as a result of the Butlerian Jihad, which occurred 10,000 years before the events of the story. Plenty of time to come up with other types of computing processes. The chief commandment was: “Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of the human mind.”
@@djamac360 It also depends on what planet you're on. Some planets kept to the ban more strictly than others. Ix flagrantly disobeyed the rules and produced AI and other machines for millennia.
We didn't need computers to invent helicopters or airplanes or rocket engines, just good mechanical engineering skills and a strong understanding of physics and math. In the 60's, NASA went to the moon using mostly slide rulers to do their calculations.
Don’t forget about the Mentats
The Harkonens were take $60,000,000,000 every year in the book. Changing the number lessens the perception of the importance of Spice;
without Spice Steersman cannot guide Guild ships,
any Bene Geserit who uses it for truth-sense or to become a Reverend Mother becomes dependent on it &,
life expectancy decreases- in the book Dune the Emperor is in his late 70s but still has the body and appearance of a healthy 35 year old because slows aging.
It is the substance that allows for human controlled safe space-folding travel but, it also gives trained people the ability to detect lies &, actually let's people stay young longer and it can't be synthesized and that is before Paul gains prescience from it...... Spice is the most valuable substance in the known universe and it can only be found on 1 planet
i think they successfully conveyed how valuable the spice is. calm down
Changing their income from the book doesn't magically take away any explanation of who all uses the spice and for what. 10 billion a year for anything is a hell of a lot and they did plenty to explain how important the spice is and how dependent they are on it
@@jacobpfund3918 and besides, don't realy know how much a Solari is, compared to, say, a dollar. But I would bet it's quite a lot more.
Duncan returns to see Paul so excited
Duncan Idaho. Same dude that killed sardaukar like they were helpless npcs got close to dying against one fremen. The emperor was joking when he said old men, women, and children of the fremen could fight.
They could make an entire movie about what Duncan does in this movie off-screen. I would watch that movie.
Wish we could have saw that Duncan v Fremen fight especially since we seen how he killed so many sardaukar
I love how Jason Momoa plays these tough guys roles but still is a bro, I hate how dudes play the tough guy attitude and don't show any happiness or affection
I need to reread it before I watch the whole movie, but these clips look great.
I do love the quick shot of the security guys. While everyone else is praising Paul, they do not find it funny in the slightest.
Duncan's way too nice a guy, he's basically marked for death.
Many many many times
:) Check out the God Emperor book....
...also marked for a hell of a lot of life. :P Like the other said, check out the books....!
@@christopherturco3494 Yes, I am aware. Poor bastard.
because he lusted after lady jessica and she refused him.
I want to go back in time and beg Frank Herbert not to kill Duncan.
AHHHH MY BOY!
I wish to have seen that fight between Duncan and the Fighter, that would have been a sight
Anyone know what song plays when Duncan hugs Paul? Listened to the whole soundtrack and didnt hear it
All star cast. 💯
Why do I feel that Thufir Hawat only cared truly about his professional carreer and reputation as a Mentat, and that being forced to stay there after the hunter seeker accident he just got more sloppy and bitter.
You're not wrong. He did on the book, but he redeemed himself later on.
The guy to the right of Duke, he is the one that is killed in the area in the sequel right?
Am I weird for wanting to see an entire movie about them discussing the logistics of spice harvesting, diplomacy with the Fremen, security risks with the Harkonnen as well as Duncan, Gurney, Paul, Thurfey and Leto being besties together?
This looks great, and it seems like Villeneuve really cared. However, I don't remember Duncan living with the Fremen and reporting back on it. Was that in the book? (I read it a couple of times, a while ago.)
Yes he was
It’s in the books
I wish we could have the house Atreides in power a bit longer the atmosphere of these scenes and the respect of the duke are just so refreshing
When Gurney makes fun of Paul for catching the hunter seeker, you can see Thufir silent and ashamed knowing that he failed to secure the palace and put Paul's life at risk
1:43 Are those CG dudes?
why did those 3 not react in thee beginning 0:09
The intelligence operatives consider the hunter seeker dart a failure because they should have caught it before Paul had to deal with it.
The first Dune novel is like Game of Thrones in space.
Daenerys Targaryen: "Nothing is more powerful then a Dragon !"
Paul Atreides; "Hold my Sandtrout."
How do you come to arrakis without your own equipment. Stage the more time passes the more i come on the side of harkonnens
OK, so I did a bit of top pof my head calculations on beat forces of ornithopter lift system. Dragonfly is the model. So that means, adjusting for size, and mass, a realistic frequency is 10,000 BPM. Assuming a carbon-fibre/hi tech metal compostite in hinges, and connector gears. The G forces load on dynamic components is well over 1000G. Approaching 5000G at tips. Ornithopter is not a variation on helicopter. In Earth's nature , the closest thing to an organic helicopter are seedleafs of some trees, who operate on principle of autorotation for dispersal. No bird, insect, or any animal on record made use of rotary airfoils. Bird wings operate on principle on mission adaptable airfoil, changing shape to control amount of lift, including stall when landing. But epicyclic beat pattern of insects is close to 400 million years. That is the model that ornithopter appears to use.
They also have jet thrusts from the back, would help compensate for lift but I believe they act like vtols when manoeuvring in tight spaces
So not sure what you are saying here. It's not feasible? G loads don't tell you the stresses in the material fibres of the blades. You would need to know what peak stresses arise from such accelerations and then compare against ultimate strength of this material. And even you did the sums and if carbon-fibre is not feasible then you could assume that some additional progress has been made in material science. Graphene is order of magnitude stronger - and thats available now. What would be available in 10 thousand years time - when this is set? ... well, lets assume .....and accept that it's potentially plausible ... or suspend disbelief.
@@roddyu2812 Those could just be exhaust ports not jets.
ALSO
1) different planet = different force of gravity (tho.. it *looks* similar to Earth, so mby next point)
2) potentially different space metals? Boom, I just completely validated all of Dune 😗
@@pangolin7570Actually Dune is 20,000 years in our future.
But I totally agree with your point. Their material and metallurgical sciences by that point would probably blow our minds.
i love this fuckin movie
I will say after part 2, this movie isn’t as great as some people say. But that is because it is suppose to set up what comes next. This movie needs to be 6+ hours to get the full feeling of it. I still love part 1 but part 2 just has so much to it.
Hearing Jason Momoa say "My Lord" feels weird.
No wonder Paul is happy to see Duncan (alive), because Paul's visions had showed him Duncan lying dead surrounded by Fremen.
Josh Brolin absolute legend I'd love to have a pint with him.
0:55 why does Paul sound like Peter Parker
Mesmo que mal pergunte: Qual o parentesco de Paul e Duncan? Parece-me que ele tem mais afeto com Duncan do que com o duque.
Fue su entrenador
Entendo. Obrigada! ❤
I want the board meeting to go longer I’m just soo Intrigued what world they live in and their reactions to oversee their economy
Just sci-fi politics
No the starwars prequels didn’t scratch that itch they had Space knights, going from that to politics is a step down
Wait are there chairs levitating
1:53 me with my Niece, I do not care. Feeling is mutual.
The problem with this movie is that it's too short.
Major character have very little to almost no dialogue.
The movie even has a random scene of a desert rat.
(SPOILERS FOR PART 2) The mouse is important later in the story because it becomes its name becomes apart of Paul’s new name when he lives with the fremen. Having it there foreshadows his life with the fremen, and everything that came with it
I like that flying wings machine is better than helicopter. Sweet!
Every time I watch clips of this movie, I want to go play the new Dune... Sadly, the new Dune is not that great with its units and I'm disappointed... till I see another clip from the movie and the cycle repeats itself. 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️😥
Play the old school games like Dune 2000 and Emperor: Battle for Dune! They're amazing
@@_Cato_ agreed
2:10 "I swear you'e getting taller" "Well you smell much worse"
This interaction doesn't make any sense to me... Is it an error? Or is it that he misheard him because of the background noise?
"Well you smell much worse" doesn't follow up the "I swear you're getting taller"
it's just a way to say "you smell much worse than you did before (like he is telling him he had always smelled).
They just both tell humorous insult to one another. One does not reference the other. Intonation would make that clearer, so maybe it is really muffled in the background noise to get it correctly right away.
It would be cool if Stilgar addressed Gurney and said "Call the flip... friendo"
Damn i love this movie.
Duncan Idaho greatest fighter in the universe: "I have never come so close to dying, they fight like demons"
Paul kills a Fremen easily later in the movie with ease, had more struggle fighting Josh Brolin in training than fighting with the non-MENA Fremen group cast.
Paul is a future seeing choosen one mutant, no one would stand a chance
Paul was trained by both Gurney Halleck, and Duncan Idaho, and was trained in the Bene Gesserit ways
He was stacked when it came to skills
Honestly would love a movie just on Duncan and his rise to being a sword master. Still new to the Dune stories and lore but if there is a book about it I would love to read it.
How do caves form on a desert planet?
That's the secret capt, Arakis wasn't a desert death world from the start . . .