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Oda did a pretty solid job of constructing a strong series with little plot holes. Tbh the only real reason OP would have some is because it's ya know 1000+ chapters long
lol kind of impossible to not have some at that point 😂😂
Oda does some really clever things to retcon plotholes in ways that make sense and serve the story.
Yeah the only main plot holes involve haki, which wasn’t even a complete development and decided on power system until marineford
Even there, Oda obviously keeps notes or re-reads his own work, because he will bring back characters from hundreds of chapters ago and have them have developed in the ways that you'd assume they would.
The only plot holes are:
Power scaling(how geko moria was able to fight kaido and crocodile lost to luffy etc)
And
HOW TF DID PELL SURVIVE A *FUCKING* NUKE TO THE FACE!!!
What's even crazier is that a lot of things in one piece were pulled right from Oda's ass, but he's such a master class writer that he's able to seamlessly integrate these things into the story as if they were planned from the start.
Oda is a retcon master
Usually if someone’s pulling stuff out of their ass it’s gonna be a bad thing but from oda it’s still good
@@Hallucinatorigfacts. the worst generation is a perfect example. the arc they was introduced in was the same time oda came up with them. now they’re crucial to the plot
@@GolDJewelz exactly oda is a genius
OP has a lot of small plot holes, but the way Oda explains them away is rediculous and hilarious so we believe him
I think the thing about one piece plot holes is that Oda is just a king of gaslighting and tying the plot holes in to the story
Such as?
What plot holes? Those are story hooks
@@SpliffingBrit124exactly
The superlight wood that is used in fishman to bring boats back to the surface was retconned to save the wax wax fruit guy in the end of alabasta when he was floating in water because oda forgot df users cant float so he conveniently "fell" on super bouyant wood@@remynobdy8844
@@SpliffingBrit124 Like the fact that after Marine Fort the gorosei didn't IMMEDATELY bring the hammer down on the strawhats even though the had video fotage of the user of the nika fruit
Oda himself goes to fix potholes. In chapter one, the entrance to the bar is broken but in a scene a bit later, it's shown completely intact. In the SBS (basically a QnA at the end of the manga book) Oda invents a guy who apparently fixed it in the time between scenes 😂
thats not a plot hole... the door being fixed has nothing to do with plot. thats more an art mistake
Yeah minor continuity errors aren't real plot holes
And then that character has a twin brother in Wano who Franky briefly works for while laying low.
@@menosgod I don't think that was a plot hole
Just an Easter egg
Yeah the floating mister 3 oda made a new type of wood that made him float and use that wood for a episode 😂
Its more the fact oda leaves thing as ambiguous as possible so he can "explain" it 500 chapters later
still waiting on the florian triangle monsters to be explained.
@@ivenstorm it imu
@@ivenstorm most likely more of Zunishas kind
The fact that oda makes a lot of shit along the way makes his lack of plot holes even more IMPRESSIVE
To be 100% fair the quite simple power scaling helps a lot as well. Like it's basically any normal person, then random swordsman then special people (including Fishman too) then devilfruit users then Haki then conquerors haki. Probably forgot something or skipped subclasses like a weakened devil fruits but it is quite linear. In Naruto it is a little bit more idk subtle a power working against someone but not against another person even tho they are the same power. Then you have the akatsuki that are kinda broken so they needed to spare and make them hate each other. Also they can reanimated sht for some reason. Also there is a dude who is called the tailless beast. Oh and dudes who were tailed beast hunters etc. You know so much sht is happening that the simple question "why?" Kinda destroys everything
He also doesn't ever resolve a lot of plot points in each arc. He leaves so much unresolved issues so he can fill them in later after he's had time to come up with an adequate answer. He's basically super good at kicking the can down the road until he needs to tie it back into the story.
Yeah it still baffles me that he practically came up with the Seven Warlords and the Supernovae overnight.
@@Decubitus Exactly. It's just unbelievable how he made every new thing he thought about segue into the story without ever getting the feel that this was done on a whim.
He covers his bs with moments he thinks will be cool enough, you won't question it.
One thing I remember hearing is that Oda absolutely *LOVES* fan theories on One Piece and he regularly watches certain youtubers and sometimes straight up uses their ideas or sprinkles their ideas into his story. He also regularly rereads his series as he writes it to keep himself up to date with anything he's ever created or crafted, so nothing is left behind or accidently retconned.
While he has his flaws, Oda is a Narrative Genius in his approach to his story.
This is misconstrued information. Yeah you can piece together that Oda does love seeing his fans make theories about his series and he has said he's watched certain OP YT videos before BUT he didn't say he did it regularly, nor did he actually say he sometimes yoinks fan ideas he sees and implements them into the story. I mean he probably has in the past, but people will think he actively follows the fandom's suggestions with the way you put it.
This is just misinformation
If you don't have any source then it's just a rumor in the fanbase
This is misinformation
He’s watched a couple and found them good
So since then he has actively AVOIDED watching one piece videos so that he doesn’t feel the need to change his story
So the complete opposite of Scott Cawthorn then?
I dunno how true this is, but I don't wanna say you're wrong, but one thing I remember reading him say was something along the lines of like... He avoids using other peoples ideas? Particularly the Devil Fruits, because if they don't turn out so good, the only one to blame is himself, not the person he got the idea from, and that I find that admirable :D I think it was specifically just the devil fruits though, so maybe he's done other things, but I'm inclined to not believe it unfortunately, I'm sorry ._.;
I read once that Oda had been working on One Piece in some capacity (imaginative, recreationally, etc) since childhood, so that would have something to do with it if it's true.
One Piece has kinda been a story he's spent a lifetime imagining
Yeah you can find sketches online that he made when he was in high school
I think the biggest Plot hole in One Piece is the Pell situation and even that is hand waved by Zoans being really really durable and recovering quickly
I think oda doesn't like to kill of characters unless it's important for the story
Fun fact: Pell was suppose to die there but due to it being too close to 911 and the way he died, he let him live
@@headshotfaze9371That's not confirmed
Fake out deaths are just a thing you roll with in one piece 😂
@@headshotfaze9371It was the editors who pushed for the change.
With one piece, it's less plot holes and more mystery set up.
There's a lot of stuff that doesn't get explained right away, but when it does, it typically fits.
Eventually it all leaves you going full "pepe silvia" wondering if every minute detail will somehow be relevant later.
its more that he remembers shit he'd make up and use it again mr.3 falls in the water but floats? "oh he landed on superfloaty wood" then he uses that wood as tracks for the sea train and the same wood franky used to float the sunny up from fishman island. franky would know about the wood because he built the sea train tracks. Its basically he gets ALOT of mileage when a plot hole happens and he trys to fix it.
An advantage one piece have is it's still going so any holes that still exist can be patched in the future while Naruto is creating more holes with boruto
Patch up what?
biggest hole in one piece is in ace chest
Bro💀
Nah that’s outta pocket
Too soon (it'll never not be too soon)
@@happyyadav4870 i mean it drove the plot forward. So its a plot hole.
How dare
I'm pretty sure white beards cannon ball hole is bigger
Shanks losing that arm to an eastblue sea king really is the only issue people bring up😅
Honestly that couldn't really be helped when oda only expected one piece to last for like 5 years at that point
try not to zoom into your face after every sentence challenge (impossible)
I think letting dead people stay dead is one of OPs best descisions. Moria excluded.
@kikane2387 oh then zoro just keeps his eye closed for no reason??? 💀😭🙏
We don’t know if Moria is dead or not. He might just be imprisoned somewhere.
@kikane2387Ashura
Izo
Pedro
Atlas
Shaka
Ace
Whitebeard
Higuma
Tonoyasu
Big Mom
Kaido
Vegapunk
Pythagoras
Orochi
Kanjuro
Hawkins
I'm pretty sure I missed a few. Fake out deaths are bad but you know what? One Piece actually has more named character deaths than the majority of the Shounen. series.
@kikane2387 That's just wrong bro
@Drakenlord I mean it is true he's been killing more people recently cause like 99% of thoes are from the last 2 arcs and like 5 of them are just Vega punk 💀 and higuma is so irrelevant I dunno if that really counts
They’re only a plot hole until Oda makes them retroactively stop being one
It's because he's a master at making the world so big and mysteries so prevalent that feels like the real world, we don't know anything other than what we're doing at the moment, and anything can be explained in anything can be added to fix anything.that's why it's so big to begin with
A lot of the current haki stuff is definitely getting questionable, ig more like asspull rather than plot hole but
when one of the closest things to a plot hole is Laugh tale being called Raftel in the beginning, then you know it's overall consistent
Dude that's just the difference in pronounciation. In Japanese, there isn't a seperate kanji for the R sound and L sound. That's why zoro is often pronounced as zolo and luffy is pronounced as ruffy.
@Monkeytheluffy56 i know that thats why its not an actual plot hole, just a mild inconsistency that changes how the audience views the final island. Beyond just the L and R, the spelling doesnt make it obvious its called laughtale for a reason
Kong has a high ranking position but plays no role to determine he does anything Oda leaped over his involvement to the Elders intervention.
@justinmcdonald2072 am i the only one who thought the marines and world government were the same till Kong was shown in the story?
@yd_things I don't know, the WG commands the Marines and Navy, the two military branches can't say no or voice an vote to the WG.
We do have more major plothole, and that's the several people who should know haki pre time skip, but never used it
Example where 🤔 👀 🙄
@@princegerma1105Crocodile, Gecko Moria…
@@LukaMapper Moria never do training and was lazy , rely too much on his devil fruit ,so not the kind of guy to unlock his haki . THATS why he get recked by Kaido.
Crocodile and Lucci are the two one who can be argue
CP9 and especially Lucci should know some form of Haki honestly.@@princegerma1105
@rijusnar1994 if you want to give oda the benefit of the doubt then you can say that crocodile relied to much on his devil fruit that he just saw no need to use it until a random ass rookie (luffy) defeated him which inspire luffy to take it more seriously. As for lucci maybe the world government only allows cp0 to use haki as they are the only members seen in the new world, (also we don't technically see the gorosei themselves use haki as they have made it clear the everyone can see the lighting that the gorosei produce and since haki is supposed to be invisible to eveyone but the audience it implies that the lighting the produce is not haki but something else) and since most people in the grand line are rookies who don't know haki then cp1 to cp9 can just rely solely on those rokoshi (idk how to spell it) techniques to deal with them. But all of this is mere speculation and none of it is confirmed.
Oda doesn't let plot holes slide if you are 100 chapters past it (at most)
Yeah in OP they could mention something random very early on and never mention it again and then 1000 chapters later you find out its actually tied directly to finding the one piece. Still waiting on what the florian triangle monsters are or what thats about it had 1 panel and is the most ominous thing ever
Basically the only big plot hole in one piece is the introduction of Haki late into the story, along with its exclusiveness, and some of the times it should've been present in early arcs.
But even then most of those cases are just accounted for & still make sense
Id say Oda is better than alot of Authors about Plot holes, but he does gp out of his way to fix the ones he has made which is why it works so well
Bro then it never was a plot hole in the first place then😅
Oda is Master of planning and grandmaster of improvising
It's funnier because most plot holes are from the anime and not the manga
Damn for someone who’s done a “deep dive” into Naruto he sure does still get things wrong surprisingly often
Oda did an awesome job sealing plot holes but there’s still a couple, like sanji not knowing Luffy can’t swim the first time meeting him dispite sanji saying he grew up with an encyclopedia on devil fruits, and knowing Luffy had eaten one, mostly just little stuff like that tho as far as I can tell, only just got to wano on my first watch of the show so I could have missed stuff
There are no plot holes in One Piece, there are only mysteries yet to be explained.
The fans do go a bit crazy saying shanks used conquers in chapter 1 cause oda already knew. Most plot holes are power based oda spends more time with his world where kishimoto created a power system and power scaling and better character depth. People are like which straw hat is your favorite girl I don’t remember the last time I heard franky brook or chopper say something important
Oda does foreshadow a lot of things very well, but honestly his greatest strength as a writer is his ability to make things up on the spot, like the Yonko or the worst generation, and yet he established his story so well and made his world so vast and varied, that it made perfect sense for those characters and ideas to fit right into the story and weave themselves in to the narrative. The biggest plot holes in one piece are only minor things, like Sanji during thriller bark saying he read the devil fruit encyclopedia when he was a child, but he didn’t know that devil fruits made people lose their ability to swim during baratie.
Oda seems to have a fantastic memory where he can keep track of previous lore to avoid contradicting it later
Will you ever consider doing a deep dive into OP like you do with Naruto? I would never say one is better than the other. They both have special places in my heart. There just aren't enough solid power scalers/ content creators with OP. The Fandom could use another really good take on OP and all the theories.
If there were plot holes they would be drowned out from sheer mass of one piece content
the only "plotholes" i can think of are the fakeout deaths that dont make a lot of sense. but those are intentional and just...not explained that well...like pell survived the bomb. why? just roll with it
The only one plot holes in one piece is just 100 years of nothing😂
The only real plot hole in one piece is that
How could a Sea King eat shank's arm
And Im sure it will be cleared then we get to know about his evil plans.
shanks said to whitebeard that he was betting on the next generation
Bro don't say this on Instagram, they will come for you.
Theres seemingly no plot holes and I think it comes down to the fact that Oda never really uses something is he doesnt know how to make it relevant and useful. So hell introduce things very vaguely very early and then expand later maling for great foreshadowing but there are some occasional abandoned plotlines that dont vontrast with happens later thus not being plotholes but they CPULD have become plotholes had he expanded on them too much
“Yeah, after joy boy lost, he lost” (proceeds to not elaborate further for 200 chapters and still does everything with no plot holes)
There are quite a few plot holes in one piece but oda manages to cover them up very thinly
Huh? Covering it up, then there was never a recton in the first place.😑
Oda is a beast. I cant imagine how hard ot is to write weakly and not have plot holes
One change the One Piece anime did from the manga is they cut the scene of Usopp giving Nami the Climatact. Contrary to what you'd might think, this improved things. Originally, Usopp gives Nami her signature weapon prior to entering Rain Base. This means she had it the entire 13 hour ride from Rain Base to Alubarna, and yet she didn't spend her time studying it or ask8ng Usopp what it does. She waited until the middle of a fight to pull out the notes to learn how about the capabilities of her weapon. By cutting the scene of Usopp giving it to her, the anime leaves it ambiguous as to when she got it, meaning she could have gotten it at the very last minute, justifying her use of notes.
Bro just knows his story forwards and backwards because he’s always had the basic plot and elements ready even before he started writing it. A lot of extra stuff his is extra ideas he finally gets to show off or explain. For example, Shanks and conquer’s Haki has been there since the beginning, and Observation Haki in Skypeia, but because he knew how well those elements worked as well as who they work with he built on to it with all the different forms and such and finally explained about half way through the series.
He also has the luxury of his SBS sections where he gets to just answer questions without having to implement them into the plot. Like Zoro’s family, their backstory is cool and everything, but it’s never relevant to Zoro’s character, not like Sanji. Zoro is want to be the strongest swordsman because of his goals, not because he did or didn’t win the genetic lottery. Sanji is a character who struggles with letting his family define him, it’s why it was so important to the story.
One Piece has some plot holes but a lot of them get integrated and fixed later in the series. For example, in Alabasta you see Mr.3 floating in water after the straw hats escape Crocodile's cage. The problem is that he has a DF and theyre supposed to sink in water like that. Oda laughed it off and explained in an sbs that "he's floating on a super boyant piece of wood." 478 chapters later that super boyant wood, called Kuuigosu, shows back up to let the crew resurface after going to an underwater island.
I'm a big fan of one piece and that's the main reason I'm subscribed to you for your one piece reactions. it's less that one piece doesn't have any plot holes, but more oda does a good job of filling those holes with with random explanation he thinks up or new characters he brings in. The main plot holds I can see in one piece is to do with size consistencies of random objects and characters but oda usually does that just to make things work or to show a sense of fear or dread
Size isn't a plot hole tho buddy
Thr thing is Oda actually tries to fix those plot holes. That's why the series lasted so Long. His original plan wasn't supposed to be this long, but the more the manga went on the more he expanded the world. Naruto started out better than one piece in my opinion, but seems to get rushed at the end. And i feel that is the problem with many new animes. The level of world building, foreshadowing, and plot holes being filled is very satisfying to watch.
Naruto plot holes in war arc does , stop their . Well it only do with powers which fix in boruto .
@@oxy2986 oda had the end an beginning always plan
@@princegerma1105 kaguya was always on his mind and ostustuki , it just rushed in last as manga would be to long like one piece I think that's why he planned to stop naruto and end it with boruto .
The only plot hole I can think of is why didn't shanks use armorment haki to save his arm from the sea king. And even that is explained away by saying "he was betting his arm on the future that was Luffy with the Nika fruit"
Actually this isn't a plot hole
One of odas editor told oda to cut of shanks arm so that it would be impactful in the story
Not a plot hole
Like the guy above me said that is true
And like you said, for whatever reason shanks lost his arm on purpose
Shanks is strong, but if he is caught off guard, he is just another human. It is totally plausible for a sea monster to bite off shanks 's arm given that there was no way shanks could protect his arm. It can also be said that shanks's main concern was protecting luffy rather than himself.
❤His editor said to do it because it would make it more dramatic, and it was explained in Jaya as well.
Oda had the whole story planned out 25 years ago. Only real change is how kuch time was focused on the Warlords
Props for noticing it. I tried to rewatch Naruto with my wife, it's her first time watching Naruto and she is caught up to One Piece anime.
She was surprised on how weak Naruto's plot was post-chunin exams arc and lost interest.
In retrospective it seems like Kishimoto really wanted to just rush out an ending as soon as possible and didn't care for the plot holes along the way.
It's amazing that in One piece the top tiers from 20 years ago are still the top tiers now
For the most part the story is pretty tight. atm I’ve gone back and can only count 1 1/2 possible plotholes I’m goin back rewatching the series and the attention to detail for things tht get introduced later is like 😮woah thts cool
You see if its a plot hole, 300 epsiodes later we find out some crazy shit went down that lead to that moment and it all makes sense
One example of this is like how he didn’t plan for the supernovas, but then has been dead set on their stories, like law and Bonnie. I wonder if Bonnie was planned at some point, or was her connection to Kuma just slapped on?
@@gavin5724 Bonny was the only one in the worst generation to not see a pacifista also the akaniu moment
@@princegerma1105 I know, I’m just saying was Bonnie also included last minute similar to the other supernovas, or was she planned somewhat when Kuma was coming into the story? And if so, fantastic on Oda for making it fit seamlessly into kumas story.
One piece plot holes are definitely there. From Haki storage, to Don Krieg making it to the Grand line, the world government not hinting luffy down after water 7, etc
Oda left plot holes, but either they only LOOKED that way, or he went back and filled them in later on
Alot of things like the warlords were not planned from the start and the worst generation were made only a few days before their introduction but Oda is really skilled at connecting these things in a way that makes sense like how Law's backstory was connected with doflamingo where both characters were not planned from the start of one piece.
There’s actually a manga panel that shows Luffy floating on water. This was obviously a very big problem people called out for YEARS, but we all simply attributed it to him floating on some wood.
Oda later introduced something called “very floaty wood” which floats in the air, and stating that the reason luffy was floating was because he was on top of some very floaty wood.
God I love this series 🤣
The only plot hole that keeps me up at night is the ass hat bat gifter from Jack's prison camp who had 2 pistols that shot infinite sea stone bullets. Huge plot hole for every navy bullet now
Not no plot holes, but few and you do need to look for them a bit. Shanks losing his arm when he most likely could have stopped it is one of the more obvious ones.
It’s revealed why when he talked to whitebeard, try again lol
@@RyuuPropagandist You mean Shanks saying he lost it betting on the new generation? I guess that works it did help push Luffy more, but he was already gonna be a pirate and there are better ways than willingly giving up your arm.
@@yursorhe's editor said to do it because it would make it more dramatic
OP sticks to its main characters and have them go along with not many things added to their back story outside of who was involved.
Naruto wants to be a twisted thread but not all the ends meet. However that many branching stories are what got me into the series especially with starting at Shippuden
Any plot holes get explained in the future and stays consistent after that. Sometimes only the in series characters state something and it turns out to only be half true or something they where told by someone else
Greatest problem is pre timeskip haki. Many Marineford fight scenes looking back makes no sense thanks to this. Blackbeard claiming Ace has never been hurt as a logia user, when he was a year or so in the new world and would've fought many Haki users is also pretty frustrating. Oda clearly didn’t think Haki through at this point and it makes some Dialogue and fight scenes abit weird. It's not a major thing, but it is jarring on countless rewatches.
The thing with one piece is, we have so many unanswered questions, but, we basically know what all the big questions are, and we know that we WILL get answers to them eventually. I mean, just recently with vegapunks message, he answered TONS of questions we have had for DECADES, and the questions we still have are so well documented, like who is Imu, why can blackbeard have 2 devil fruits, the full truth of the void century and joy boy (even though we did just get a little taste of it), that we know they are things Oda has on his radar, and that he will without a doubt clear up before the end. But also yea, one piece is pretty damn bulletproof (just like PELL apparently is explosion proof, theres your biggest plot hole right there).
There was one plot hole where Mr3 was floating on water despite eating a devil fruit then Oda said he was on a piece of "unbelievably floaty wood" but then the wood comes back after like 500 chapters as a ship material lmao
I mean kinda hard to make plot holes in one piece when they basically say "we don't wantbto hear it" whenwver someone tries to bring upsl something that happened before the show. Like "luffy let me tell you about how Gol D Roger accumulated the one piece" "nah I'm good, you gonna finish that meat?", they focus on character development and generally avoid overlap with main characters or key events.
We can't actually know what a plot hole is until One Piece is finished with how everything eventually comes back and gets explained. Like we Got Enel with a robot army just chilling out on the moon and it might mean something it might not we just don't know
honestly the biggest plotholes we have are when oda starts to experiment with haki on skypeia but its so minor its rarely brought up. also the fact that the straw hats would be dead if oda didnt make luffy a hard counter to eneru, even oda admits theyd have never survived without it
thats not what a plot hole is
The story line yes the how strong everybody is is always all over the place lmao
There are some plot holes. Not too many though. I think the one that gets the most attention is Sanji and him reading a devil fruit encyclopedia as a child. But then not know anything about devil fruits when he is first introduced. Some others started out as plot holes but were ironed out later in the story through world building. Its honestly amazing the combination of forshadowing by Oda, and the happy coincidences he makes. Very good story over all.
It’s surprising since it’s a anime with 1000+ episodes and that the original story oda made wasn’t even supposed to make it out the east blue, which is about 50 episodes
The only 2 plot holes I can think of is Pell surviving the bomb and Katakuri's Devil Fruit working like a Logia.
The former is harder to explain. You could argue Armament Haki, which...maybe, but it just feels like a hand wave.
And the latter was actually Oda forgetting that the Mochi Fruit was a Peeamecia, not a Logia, and so he made the Special Peramecia Subcategory to explain that Katakuri is able to use Logia like abilities with gis DF cause of his Advanced Observation.
Besides those two instances, I can’t think of any major ones
Luffy was in ocean water floating (can't remember the arc) in an SBS, said very floaty wood, and till Egghead where he added it in, we just accepted Oda messed up, but he went above and beyond to fix that years after everyone forgot
It has to do with the approach. While I’m sure Kishimotto had a plan on where his manga was going, from what I heard, he had no idea how to get there (War Arc only) as where Oda kinda knew. The Warlords and Supernova’s were a last minute addition, which is why the series is so long, otherwise it would have ended in five years according to Oda himself. Also being 1000+ episodes is a great way to introduce something and think about how to have it affect your story.
Thats what happens when a writers spends their whole life working on one story. There is One Piece concept art from when Oda was in high school
As a One Piece fan, there *are* plot holes. It's just that Oda is good enough at rolling with the punches and patching them that even unexplained ones can be reasonably rationalized.
Unless it's really in my face, I just ignore them and enjoy the story.
Although one problem I have with both series is introducing a power or aspect of it then not using it.
The thing with one piece is if there’s a plot hole it’s either filler (unlikely) or it’s a plot point for later in the show
People fail to realize what failure can do to someone's psyche. Gecko Moria was able to gight Kaido years ago because of his confidence at the time. After losing his whole crew to Kaido, Moria wasn't exactly the same. He no longer had the confidence since he started to use zombies, fearing the L he took from Kaido. Moria losing to Luffy was more of a battle of will and Moria is oretty weak willed.
And to think Oda is rocking by through coincidence, for example, the only reason Rob Lucci is a villain is because Oda thought he looked cool but some fans praised him for choosing someone better than Spandam to be the main Enies Lobby villain so, yeah, he takes those.
Retcon and improv is odas special skill fr
All plot holes can be explained if you have a flimsy ruleset and 1000+ chapters to work with
It’s very tight. Expect for Sabo, he just comes out of nowhere as Ace’s replacement.
there were scenes with ace & luffy as kids where it’s implied there is a third with them.
but luffy saying “he is my only brother” before aces death makes the foreshadowing falter
@@tristan6773 but you can still wave that away later with the reveal of Sabos fake death making the statement more he’s my only living brother and not he’s my ONLY brother with the word living omitted
People seem to think Oda only foreshadows. That’s not true. In an interview, he said he retcons just as much as he foreshadows. That means for the past 27 years he’s been writing so open ended he seamlessly weaves the new story into the old. That’s why there’s way less plot holes in OP. He stitches the holes up one way or another.
Because for one piece stuff that is mentioned _years ago_ actually get brought back up.
There are a couple of potholes in one piece but for the most part Oda does a great job
Most of the OP plot holes are character lines, my favourite being Krokus, who went to Laughtale, intentionally mispronouncing it in the translation, and of course, the Japanese not picking up on the Romanjification.
So Oda sat on that plot point for more than a decade, and hid theory material behind the lack of a letter L in his native tongue.
Oh yeah, and the rest are because of filler. Zoro is amazed that dragons exist despite helping one go through rebirth
Well the thing is if it wasn't for one piece being so long there definitely would be plot holes galore
Whats crazy is NONE of the naruto stans have done a deep dive into op thats the only reason for the divide 😅😂
You could find all the plot holes, you want it but at the end of the day, you'll find yourself needing more information than 2 episodes you got, and there's always a perfect answer" it's a big world, theres more shit out there "
Plot holes don't work like that
I think he just wanted to make that pun at the end 😂
Honestly most of the holes I’d say come from the introduction of Haki
I think oda just doesn't let himself forget about something and if he retcons he makes it makes since
I would classify one piece as having a lot of things forshadowed and having very different levels of pay out. Its insanely impressive Oda and his staff have been able to connect so many things back but some are far better than others. Gear 5th is a good example of the bad imo. Yes, it was technically forshadowed, but it really makes a lot of characters seem incompetent due to the lack of action around it.
I still think we need a damn good explination as to how a Sea King that was able to bite off Shank's arm (A man with off the chart observation haki) and that same Sea King gets knocked out by chapter 1 Luffy.
I simply cannot think of a good explination so it feels like a plot hole
there's some plot holes here and there but yeah pretty solid easy to follow as long as you're not done.
That sums it up pretty well
A lot of the plot comes from Oda not liking to kill characters lr just some characters no longer having an importance the story
@@garfleguyThats plot armor
Oda is great at remembering a mistake and spending whole arch’s trying to fix it or make it not a mistake anhmore
That’s the difference between a great writer and a great editor
@@payton0084 why not both
I mean there are plot holes, that's just an inevitability with a series as long as one piece, but they aren't usually as prevalent
There are plenty of ass-pulls and retcons in One Piece, its primarily that Oda leaves so much unresolved plot points he is later able to loop back and fill in those missing pieces so they don't feel like plot holes. This also allows you to give Oda that extra room and time to fill in those plot holes you encounter in the story, because he's filled in those details so many times before. It is why One Piece theory videos made the community so large, too much details are ommited, that you can't wait for the missing pieces, and you have plenty of room for speculation of what those missing details are. The plot holes are a part of what makes the story great.
Bro there no ass-pull if it's unresolved man? Give me an example😅
@@princegerma1105 well the whole worst Generation was made up on the spot before he introduced them on an editor's suggestion. He designed them, them went years before reintroducing them and finding ways of including them into the story to have significance. No way he know how each character was going to be as significant as they were to the story, because he didn't even plan on them being in the story. Then tie back in other characters like the warlords into their backstories too. He also had to take breaks to plan out the story better when he made luffy have a different fruit, as he know a lot of it was coming off like an ass-pull. He also had to explain that his orginal explanation of haki was wrong, as he had smoker be easy to hit in smoke form by haki and saying doing that just made him a bigger target it, as haki forces the body to solidify with haki, but forgetting that whitebeard tried that on the admirals, but the attack slipped right through (so he had to explain high level logia user can make a hole so the haki doesn't make their bodies go solid for a hit.
Sanji's backstory. He left room for it to be whatever he needed to story to be to fill in his plot. Since his name was originally Naruto and never once mentioned germma double 6 before they were introduced, he leaved himself enough vagueness to add on the story to fill his plot holes. Like Brooke never being drawn in Laboon's backstory, then making up Brook later and saying he was part of Laboon's backstory the whole time.
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