One thing that may help you to fix your builds and deal more dmg in the process is taking out heavy caliber and serration (or the mod that does the same but for secondary and shotgun), IF you're using arcanes, you'll be better using elemental mods, utility mods or something like that, since the dmg added from heavy caliber and serration is additive to the arcanes, so you have better options for those slots, even normal faction mods can add more dmg than those, that may increase the dmg of a few of your weapons and change a little bit the tier list (not that much if you don't like the weapon you will still don't like the weapon even with more dmg), good tier list anyway.
@@Laireso Arca plasmor is much stronger than other weapons when paired with her 2nd because of the magnetic shots that Plasmor has. But yes other weapons are fine 2.
I supremely disagree with the placement of the spirex and agendus (all hail the head buster hemorrhage monster space staple gun and funny shield hammer glast weapon) but I'll let it slide because PLASMOR TIER LETS GO BABY IT'S PLASMOR TIME
I have a 60% radiation cycron with no primed mods but a maxed cascadia whatever that gives 480% more dmg if u get a bunch of heat. And that thing melts the new node on steel path, lvl 200 steelpath no problem
Mara Detron always was one of my favorite secondaries. i came back to the game recently and was glad to see that they made a kuva lich version of it. if only there was a Lens version as well
Arca Plasmor, Cycron, Flux Rifle are my favorites. I have them all except Agendus and Livia. Working on farming those for the mastery. Great list - I agree with your tiers except maybe Spirex - Spirex might be A tier.
for the arca plasmor what would be ur suggested element? i almost always go for either toxin or heat but iam reading allot of good things about magnetic asswell so what your opinion on this?
Sorry even if it is 'your' tier list, You clearly have not played with the Agendus enough, its one of if not the best melee's in the game. The amount of damage it can dish out while being naturally fast beats the livia, exec and grigori. The exec is purely meme build for heavy. The agendus wrecks crowds with speed while being fun. It says a lot when you don't even use final harbinger. Give it an actual chance it will blow your mind.
That's why it's his own tier list, even from the start of the video he clearly said that this video is "100% opinion".., HIS opinion, not you! Put your bias aside and make your own tier list video where you could put agendus on S tier.
That's literally the definition of a personal tier list. You like it a lot and he doesn't. It's all personal opinion Not to mention the build shown is the recommended build on over frame and not his own build.
I mean, the Tenet Exec exists... Which is a greatsword... Greatswords are better than Sword & Shields, unless those shields have waaayyy higher stats... Which they don't
So if we get all of the weapons, including the less desired ones for MR affinity, do we have to level them to level 40 to receive the MR points or can we stop at 30 on some weapons to save forma and still receive some MR affinity?
for single target, isn't the phenmor better? just asking and envoy is such a joy to use after the ammo nerf why no galv chamber for envoy? and why use two 165% damage mods?
I might need to start levelling up my Tenet Arca Plasmor lol, I built up my Tenet Glaxion first which I feel could be A tier? or S if you have its insane mod
This tier list is outdated: arca plasmor is in no way S tier, but I would put Glaxion there, absolutely shreds hordes of enemies. Also dont use Radiation progen
i kind of disagree about tenet livia, reasons are: 1. combo counter doesn't decay when you switch to primary or secondary 2. forced slash proc on heavy attack and can absoulutely one shot acolytes
Hey your cooked bro, the tennet plinx is atleast an S lol, my tennet plinx build does 100k - 10 mil damage based on your build and is a good grouper. I've gone to level cap and it still kills.
I feel like the tenet livia find it's niche with kullervo. he is a heavy attack enabled , and the tenet livia is best in game for that. it comes alive with him if youre into it. but he didnt exist at the time of this vid too.,
Ur livia build kinda lacking imo, probably why you didn't enjoy it. Livia is my most used melee weap and I love it! I got as low a cold progenitor as possible and I use 1 UNRANKED toxin 60/60 to give it viral. A common mistake people make with this weap is stacking tons of viral, the viral is just there to boost the SLASH unless you're doing a heavy attack build. So for a normal steel path build you want to try to have HIGHER slash weight than VIRAL or you'll see a massive dps drop off Great video tho, arca plasmor goat
Gotta comment on this misconception: With normal melee weapons (say, Kronen Prime), you'll want exactly this: low viral = more slash procs = more dmg (viral caps at 10 stacks anyways). Use Weeping Wounds and the status chance difference is small anyways. However, with Tenet weapons the situation is a bit different: The dmg% from progenitor (25-60) is actually considered as base dmg, not just an additive mod to the build. This means that with higher %, one single slash proc will do more dmg (as it scales with the weapon's base dmg). So, comparing 25% and 60% bonuses, 60 gives less slash procs which do more dmg per proc. It is actually in balance, so both versions will do the same slash proc dmg per one swing on average. So, is it better to have 25% or 60%? 60 is marginally better depending on what you go for: You'll get 10 stacks of viral a bit faster, you'll do more upfront viral dmg and heavy attacks and pure elemental builds are better. You'll still want to use an unranked mod (toxin or cold) to get the viral, because that added dmg won't increase the slash proc dmg.
Hi Bonk, wanted to give you some constructive critisism. I really enjoy your content, love your videos and wanna do this to help you improve/grow. So #1 you need to slightly raise the volume of your voice, watch one of your videos side by side with another youtuber, lets take tactical potato. Your voice is like 30% quieter than it should be, it's not enough to make someone click off your video but yknow. #2 when you're doing your videos be more confident in what you say, in the sense that if you're unsure of something when you're talking, go look it up and redo the take. Why? it improves the validity of EVERYTHING you're saying. Makes you seem more trustworthy as it comes across that you know your stuff. If you stutter or something, redo the line edit it in etc. Also a little tip for editing in double takes like that, is to start speaking a little before you hit record, since people tend to be a little quieter when they first start speaking, as you speak more your tone/volume stablises. That's what you want, since if your tone/voice is similar it's easier to edit in stuff. #3 this isn't really critisism it's more a tip for youtube and growth since I'd love to see you grow, you deserve way more subs than you have and I think the reason why you don't is just discoverablity. Get more socials. I don't personaily use these and you might not either but just creating a twitter, tiktok, insta etc and spending 5 mins cutting some of your stuff up and posting on there can increase the variety and range of people who see your content. #4 interation is key, do stuff to make your audience want to interact with your videos. Giveaways for prime sets or platinum, asking everyone at the end of the video a weird question etc. I personally don't care for that stuff but I know it massively affects the youtube algorithm. And if you aren't already, make some friends with other youtubers, they'll be able to give you tips and stuff. Anyway I hope at least some of this helps. Best of luck
I think i use the Grigori more than any other tenet weapon. Every time i use my 60% toxin Plasmor i always get frustrated with how it handles compared to other shotguns. It takes me like 3-4 shots to take down nullifiers (even mid level ones).
Mag progenitor is better for gun co on plasmor. You just need 1 viral proc to boost other dps, stacking tons of viral doesnt do anything as its not actually a good damage type it just boosts other dps types. My mag prog with viral arca plasmor and gun co clears rooms so easily I dont even need arcane merciless, I instead use the quick reload primary arcane
every tennet weapon should be in f tier for the sole reason of they fucking suck to get. and that's coming from someone who farmed every available kuva wep within 2 weeks of them coming out, and the same for the second wave yet still i only ever got 2 tennet weps i fucking hate doing sisters
Imo Sisters feel way faster than Liches It took me like, what, 9-12 missions to get the three murmurs? Meanwhile I'd be stuck for 3 hours trying to get the lich murmurs
Please fix how you pronounce progenitor. Pro gen ate or not pro gin ate or. Its the words pro and genitor together, it's not a regional thing or a country thing or a preference thing, you just say it wrong. Check any pronunciation website. Sorry, I don't mean to be mean but it just really annoys me
What’s your favorite Tenet Weapon?
CYCRON BABBYYY
Plinx
Tenet mighty seer
xaku
Tenet Cycron
Most accurate description of the tenn arca plasmor ive ever heard
The tenet spirex was incorrectly named by DE. It's the tenet SEER. Part of the MIGHTY SEER family. Its the best tenet weapon
The one true prophet has spoken
@@RoninX1985
MIGHTY SEERED STeak
One thing that may help you to fix your builds and deal more dmg in the process is taking out heavy caliber and serration (or the mod that does the same but for secondary and shotgun), IF you're using arcanes, you'll be better using elemental mods, utility mods or something like that, since the dmg added from heavy caliber and serration is additive to the arcanes, so you have better options for those slots, even normal faction mods can add more dmg than those, that may increase the dmg of a few of your weapons and change a little bit the tier list (not that much if you don't like the weapon you will still don't like the weapon even with more dmg), good tier list anyway.
The Livia is just to scratch the itch of having a lightsaber in warframes
Arca Plasmor is insane on Mag's 2nd ability with the ricochet.
isn't everything insane with Mag's 2 though?
@@Laireso Arca plasmor is much stronger than other weapons when paired with her 2nd because of the magnetic shots that Plasmor has. But yes other weapons are fine 2.
I supremely disagree with the placement of the spirex and agendus (all hail the head buster hemorrhage monster space staple gun and funny shield hammer glast weapon) but I'll let it slide because PLASMOR TIER LETS GO BABY IT'S PLASMOR TIME
My favourite part of the video was when he said "its plasmorin' time" and plasmor'ed all over the place
When I was a child, I had a dog called "Bonky".
Hearing you presenting yourself as "Bonk" brings a smile to my face every time.
may bonky rest in peace
11:30 Very accurate description, Cannot wait to put my hands on my Tenet Arca with 41% toxin. Thank you, Saryn
I have a 60% radiation cycron with no primed mods but a maxed cascadia whatever that gives 480% more dmg if u get a bunch of heat. And that thing melts the new node on steel path, lvl 200 steelpath no problem
post the build on overframe and then link it i'd love to see the bulids.
Mara Detron always was one of my favorite secondaries. i came back to the game recently and was glad to see that they made a kuva lich version of it. if only there was a Lens version as well
i love my ocelot railgun otherwise known as the tenet plinx
(this thing slaps harder than the slaytra IMO)
You're pretty good
@@outrider8569 I love reloading during a battle!
Tennet Ferrox and Tennet Plinx make funny pull mode, 20/10 would recommend
Arca Plasmor, Cycron, Flux Rifle are my favorites. I have them all except Agendus and Livia. Working on farming those for the mastery. Great list - I agree with your tiers except maybe Spirex - Spirex might be A tier.
Tenet Flux Rifle is awesome, but you really need to build it for crit+status while taking advantage of the cheap Rivens.
for the arca plasmor what would be ur suggested element? i almost always go for either toxin or heat but iam reading allot of good things about magnetic asswell so what your opinion on this?
Toxin is the most versatile one on most of them
magnetic is good for extra galvanized aptitude damage
Sorry even if it is 'your' tier list, You clearly have not played with the Agendus enough, its one of if not the best melee's in the game. The amount of damage it can dish out while being naturally fast beats the livia, exec and grigori. The exec is purely meme build for heavy. The agendus wrecks crowds with speed while being fun. It says a lot when you don't even use final harbinger. Give it an actual chance it will blow your mind.
i love the Agendus too, on top of looking awesome (looks like a hammer and a shield) the heavy attack is so fun
It’s certainly not the best melee
That's why it's his own tier list, even from the start of the video he clearly said that this video is "100% opinion".., HIS opinion, not you!
Put your bias aside and make your own tier list video where you could put agendus on S tier.
That's literally the definition of a personal tier list. You like it a lot and he doesn't. It's all personal opinion
Not to mention the build shown is the recommended build on over frame and not his own build.
I mean, the Tenet Exec exists... Which is a greatsword... Greatswords are better than Sword & Shields, unless those shields have waaayyy higher stats... Which they don't
Tenet Envoy is my favorite. Homing missiles go boom!
I love using it in the simulacrum to launch my friends to the moon
This was really helpful, thank you. But what about the Tenet Ferrox? Or did I miss it in the video?
Exec and plinx not in S-tier? Exec get a 10.4x crit multiplier and plinx one hits enemies up to level 800
So if we get all of the weapons, including the less desired ones for MR affinity, do we have to level them to level 40 to receive the MR points or can we stop at 30 on some weapons to save forma and still receive some MR affinity?
Just lvl 30 for the mr
You won’t get the max affinity without maxing the weapon but you’ll get the same amount of exp as you would for leveling a gun to 30
for single target, isn't the phenmor better? just asking
and envoy is such a joy to use after the ammo nerf
why no galv chamber for envoy? and why use two 165% damage mods?
yeh i love the envoy after the ammo nerfs. Its got the stats of the bramma with more ammo and an easier shooting experience
I might need to start levelling up my Tenet Arca Plasmor lol, I built up my Tenet Glaxion first which I feel could be A tier? or S if you have its insane mod
This tier list is outdated: arca plasmor is in no way S tier, but I would put Glaxion there, absolutely shreds hordes of enemies. Also dont use Radiation progen
@Kelthoras1 I used Magnetic
Was going for the tetra but rolled the arca plasmor.
Don't mind if I do 😁👍
Can you please answer or reply to Smokey on what Element to shoot for when hunting for the Arca Plasmor please 🙏🏻
Toxin
i kind of disagree about tenet livia, reasons are:
1. combo counter doesn't decay when you switch to primary or secondary
2. forced slash proc on heavy attack and can absoulutely one shot acolytes
Tenet livia is great. I also enjoy its passive ability to expand its block radius as it blocks more and more shots
Well yeah just 1 massive problem
Wise razor
Hey your cooked bro, the tennet plinx is atleast an S lol, my tennet plinx build does 100k - 10 mil damage based on your build and is a good grouper. I've gone to level cap and it still kills.
yeah and so does every other weapon exepct stug not that special
Wait what about the Tenet Ferrox?
Average ig, whoops kinda forgot that was new in ergo shop. spearguns are weird in this game.
@@llbonkll lmao all good. I like the original because I always enjoyed my marksman weapons.
I gotta say the tenet ferrox is my favorite and I don’t think it was out at the time of this video but it’s easily high A tier
Diplos deserve S just for being the meta gun for pt IMO.
Flux rifle isnt a beam rifle at all. Its a normal hitscqn rifle that just has a projectile that looks like a beam.
what is a progenenator?? dya mean progenitor? pro gen i tor
Bro😂 i hear it too🤣🤣
I feel like the tenet livia find it's niche with kullervo. he is a heavy attack enabled , and the tenet livia is best in game for that. it comes alive with him if youre into it. but he didnt exist at the time of this vid too.,
I mean yeah but Azothane is also there and is arguably better with its higher crit chance and huge crit multiplier
Ur livia build kinda lacking imo, probably why you didn't enjoy it. Livia is my most used melee weap and I love it!
I got as low a cold progenitor as possible and I use 1 UNRANKED toxin 60/60 to give it viral. A common mistake people make with this weap is stacking tons of viral, the viral is just there to boost the SLASH unless you're doing a heavy attack build. So for a normal steel path build you want to try to have HIGHER slash weight than VIRAL or you'll see a massive dps drop off
Great video tho, arca plasmor goat
ill have to try that out, i like the design of the weapon so I hope I can learn to enjoy to use it
Glad you enjoyed the vid
Gotta comment on this misconception: With normal melee weapons (say, Kronen Prime), you'll want exactly this: low viral = more slash procs = more dmg (viral caps at 10 stacks anyways). Use Weeping Wounds and the status chance difference is small anyways. However, with Tenet weapons the situation is a bit different:
The dmg% from progenitor (25-60) is actually considered as base dmg, not just an additive mod to the build. This means that with higher %, one single slash proc will do more dmg (as it scales with the weapon's base dmg). So, comparing 25% and 60% bonuses, 60 gives less slash procs which do more dmg per proc. It is actually in balance, so both versions will do the same slash proc dmg per one swing on average.
So, is it better to have 25% or 60%? 60 is marginally better depending on what you go for: You'll get 10 stacks of viral a bit faster, you'll do more upfront viral dmg and heavy attacks and pure elemental builds are better. You'll still want to use an unranked mod (toxin or cold) to get the viral, because that added dmg won't increase the slash proc dmg.
what abt xaku
S tier
tenet flux rifle is the most underwhelming tenet weapon, exec is S, gram is still my most played melee but exec is way more fun
I love how he forgot about the New Ferox.
Shhh
It's bugged, isn't it?
Hi Bonk, wanted to give you some constructive critisism. I really enjoy your content, love your videos and wanna do this to help you improve/grow. So #1 you need to slightly raise the volume of your voice, watch one of your videos side by side with another youtuber, lets take tactical potato. Your voice is like 30% quieter than it should be, it's not enough to make someone click off your video but yknow.
#2 when you're doing your videos be more confident in what you say, in the sense that if you're unsure of something when you're talking, go look it up and redo the take. Why? it improves the validity of EVERYTHING you're saying. Makes you seem more trustworthy as it comes across that you know your stuff. If you stutter or something, redo the line edit it in etc. Also a little tip for editing in double takes like that, is to start speaking a little before you hit record, since people tend to be a little quieter when they first start speaking, as you speak more your tone/volume stablises. That's what you want, since if your tone/voice is similar it's easier to edit in stuff.
#3 this isn't really critisism it's more a tip for youtube and growth since I'd love to see you grow, you deserve way more subs than you have and I think the reason why you don't is just discoverablity. Get more socials. I don't personaily use these and you might not either but just creating a twitter, tiktok, insta etc and spending 5 mins cutting some of your stuff up and posting on there can increase the variety and range of people who see your content.
#4 interation is key, do stuff to make your audience want to interact with your videos. Giveaways for prime sets or platinum, asking everyone at the end of the video a weird question etc. I personally don't care for that stuff but I know it massively affects the youtube algorithm. And if you aren't already, make some friends with other youtubers, they'll be able to give you tips and stuff.
Anyway I hope at least some of this helps. Best of luck
nice video but cycron should be s in my opinion
Its funny for me scythe is so meh that i dont even remember maxing that. But exec is my main melee killer. With wisp i do more dmg than nukes.
Recently I've been been maining yareli I guess its time to dual wield! (plinx after duplex)
I have a crazy Detron riven hell yeah I'm going for tenet detron
7:26
Using yarrelli, you would want to exterminate all that is holy anyway so ez headshot multi in the pocket
Pro-gen-a-tor is how you say it
That’s what those holokeys are for….. the moment you realize you have a small fortune! 😂
what about glaxion?
glaxion didnt exist back then
I think i use the Grigori more than any other tenet weapon. Every time i use my 60% toxin Plasmor i always get frustrated with how it handles compared to other shotguns. It takes me like 3-4 shots to take down nullifiers (even mid level ones).
Epitaph for nullifiers and plasmor for the rest .
Mag progenitor is better for gun co on plasmor. You just need 1 viral proc to boost other dps, stacking tons of viral doesnt do anything as its not actually a good damage type it just boosts other dps types. My mag prog with viral arca plasmor and gun co clears rooms so easily I dont even need arcane merciless, I instead use the quick reload primary arcane
Yeah i agree with the magnetism progenitor. Im 2 tapping arbitration drones. First shot drains shield to 0, second drains hp to 0. Arca plasmor slaps
Tenet Lenz and Tenet Lanka when?
But it's plasmor baby you look down bounce kill death😂😂
I feel like you’ve watched bladed Angel, y’all have the same humor
And the ending reminded me of Michael reeves
The way you kept pronounced progenitor like proginator caught me off guard
Just got 248% crit chance for flux rifle...
Tenet Ferrox ?
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Kuva brakk definitely better for mag .
BIG BOOM BOUNCE ALL WILL BE OBLITERATED
every tennet weapon should be in f tier for the sole reason of they fucking suck to get. and that's coming from someone who farmed every available kuva wep within 2 weeks of them coming out, and the same for the second wave
yet still i only ever got 2 tennet weps
i fucking hate doing sisters
Imo Sisters feel way faster than Liches
It took me like, what, 9-12 missions to get the three murmurs?
Meanwhile I'd be stuck for 3 hours trying to get the lich murmurs
Yeah sisters can be WAY faster more often
@@discordia9128 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Dude fr said agendus is weak
Correction said isn't weak
You kinda sound like blooprint lol
Please fix how you pronounce progenitor. Pro gen ate or not pro gin ate or. Its the words pro and genitor together, it's not a regional thing or a country thing or a preference thing, you just say it wrong. Check any pronunciation website. Sorry, I don't mean to be mean but it just really annoys me
Suck it up dude. People say it both ways and if that bothers you it's just too bad.
Ok Mr. English Teacher
With with my plinx
your builds are actually so wrong 💀💀💀
Grigori was my absolute favorite melee of all time until hate incarnon.