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Dude...the advert...OMG...lol...do you know what a growler is slang for in the UK. Answer...erm...lady's...erm..."kitty". Not sure about wanting one to come with two cups either.
I hope we hear another update from this one RSLASH this one and the crazy mother in law who kept going on sbout "cultural differences" and "mental issues"
Girl makes 200k, stays in great shape, is an amazing cook, and is even open to discussion and change when requested. She's an incredible 10/10 catch. What the hell is wrong with her ex husband? She's actually perfect. Is her being so perfect making him feel self-conscious or inferior or something?
People seem to know that you can have both or neither but don't really get you can have one or the other. Amy is clearly intelligent, meaning book smart but her wisdom meaning street smarts and ability to understand herself, others and the situations she finds herself in is extremely low. I feel really bad for her because she used some God language when talking about her pregnancy, between that and being a virgin in her 20's because she was school focused, she sounds like she grew up SUPER sheltered which only sets people up to be used and abused once they get out into the real world. Which is literally what happened to her, an older man lied to and manipulated her into a relationship and falsely impregnated her to baby trap her to him...
She's 24 and already in an Executive Mentoring Program for a finance career. It sounds like she was a sheltered prodigy who wasn't allowed to focus on anything beyond her education and thus has zero skills for interpersonal interactions and fell for the 'you're so mature for your age' bullshit. It's a legitimate danger when a kid is gifted and parents should definitely support it, but it shouldn't be the only thing they have going for them.
To anyone curious, OP did update again recently. Basically, the divorce went through smoothly, and she sent Amy all the evidence proving everything her idiot ex said were lies, but either Amy is an idiot, or Joe has a silver tongue, because Amy forgave him for his lies and they're still together. On a more positive note, OP is in therapy, got a promotion at work, and has roommates in her home now. All in all, Op's doing great, so there's that at least; I'm frankly losing my sympathy for Amy.
I still feel awful for amy. it sounds like the poor girl has been sheltered with no relationship experience her whole life, and with the language she used, it was a religious sheltered home, which makes it even worse. she's a prime potential victim of manipulation, specially by a man 10 years older than her who's clearly getting lessons from the podcast andrew tate guys. I hope she manages to find someone that helps her out of the situation, because people who've been manipulated to that point don't just snap out of it on their own usually, and if they do, they're too scared to get out on their own. I assume his next step is having amy quit her job to become a stay at home mom, which will make her even more sheltered and easily manipulated.
Update: OP’s divorce was finalized and she got a promotion at work! She sent a huge packet with all the evidence disproving her ex’s lies to Amy and she believed her. However Amy chose to stay with Joe under some “true love/meant to be” bs that Joe fed her, and they had their baby a month or so ago now. OP is leaving them to it and is living her life to the fullest with new roommates for her empty house! (Plus therapy before getting back out there)
As soon as he mentioned “financial infidelity,” alarm bells went off. A lot of the time, people don’t accuse their partner of some sort of “infidelity” unless they’re guilty of it in some way themselves, usually in the sexual sense.
Let me get this straight. Dude has a hot, athletic wife who is smart as hell, earns a big paycheck, she cooks for him, she games, she doesn’t say anything about his spending habits or how much money goes out, she earns her own money and doesn’t ask him for any, she likes being home and chatting with friends…..and he’s mad that she’s not more ambitious and doesn’t wear a lot of makeup so he’s considering other women? Dude scored a, from the sounds of it, 10/10 woman and can’t see the gold through his greed
At first glance yes his behaviour is that of an idiot. It's when it's revealed he was cheating on his wife that now his bizarre view makes sense. And by makes sense I mean it's absolute nonsense. Cheaters will nitpick or make up nonsense in order to justify the cheating with excessive gas lighting.
You hate to see someone live the life you want and dunk it in the trash if I got that lucky in my life I will be on my knees thanking god for the amazing gift he gave me
Reminds me of the conquistadors from Spain back in the 1400-1500s when they found platinum, a material worth more than gold, called it "unpolished gold" and literally threw it all into the ocean.
The husband just wants a controllable, naive wife that would depend on him so much that he'd be regarded as a god-like stature. It wasn't about the money, the looks or the skills, it's about his possessive behavior to be the one in control of the relationship. Dude literally has the best wife any man in the world can dream and he threw it all away because he wanted a servant of a wife that'd lick his feet whenever he walks the floor. I wish the best of luck on Amy because she's in one hell of a ride.
It's so obvious based on the lies he told about OP. A hopeless, high school dropout with no future without the doofus' dashing help and kind leadership in her life. Like the fantasy is so obvious and its disgusting.
Thankfully it seems like OP's meetup with Amy has probably sown the seeds of doubt and that he'll soon be left with nothing, like he deserves for being a trash human being.
Oh without a doubt. He’ll come crawling back with the “I miss yous, Don’t you miss me, Remember all of our good/fun times, Amy is nothing like you” He’ll probably lose his job if we’re lucky, and won’t find a job as well paying as the one he has now, but still have to pay a penny for child support. Can’t spend as much money as he used to. He has to pay 80/90 whereas Amy pays 20/10 doesn’t cook as good as OP. He can’t travel as much as he used to. Amy done gained weight. Men can’t understand pregnancy weight and just calls it fat.
I honestly think that every time a man like OP’s ex-husband says that they want a virgin woman, they just want a partner that’s submissive, insecure, and dependent. Because it certainly seems that way since he choose Amy, who fits the criteria.
I love how he refuses to "congratulate her for basic adulting" when mans doesn't even cook for himself! Like damn who made you the authority on adulting and how did they get it so wrong??
@@BlueJDev Your dog probably also shows as much enthusiasm for the same food they get every single day as the first time they were fed. All the dogs I sit for show SO much gratitude for their meals... It really warms my heart, and makes me happy to feed them. It's a shame more humans can't be like that.
The amount of lies he told his mistress is actually down right terrifying. Like the lengths he went through just to sleep with a virgin woman. Lies that can be easily proven false. The fact that he basically cosplay to be a completely different person with no guilt or shame or worry what so ever. That’s really scary. I hope both OP and Amy+her child turn out ok in the end. The man sounds too unhinged.
Well, ex wife will be fine, especially with him not able to claim anything, and having to pay for the divorce. New girlfriend will also soon enough figure out the same, and will take him to the cleaners again, taking whatever is left as well. He will definitely wish that first he did get the snip, and also that he had kept it in his pants, seeing as his month will be the first 20 days working for the IRS, then the next dozen working to pay off the alimony and child support he will be getting. Yes, more than the days in the month, it will be the only hard thing he will have for the next 18 years.....
@@katieburnswater7251 Yikes, best stay away from a creep like that, who knows what he'd do to you when you're alone with him out of envy toward your husband for having you. Because if he's that unhinged, I don't want him alone with any woman but he sure seems to really idolize you and specifically want you.
Just listening to the meals she put together, meals I assume she did by HAND and from SCRATCH, has me thinking this woman is a Goddess! Not just that but she's successful and financially responsible. What more could that absolute loser want?
He resents her for not worshipping the ground he walks on. He can lie through his teeth with Amy and she is basically his footrest on command, OP on the other hand is smart and good with money (and doesn't share it with husband) so he can't believe the audacity that she doesn't realize what a catch he is. I'm sure in husband's perfect world, OP would have stuck around and been his bangmaid giving him control over her money while Amy became his replacement wife until he got bored with her.
Ex-husband fell down the Tate rabbit hole. How sad. As soon as i heard “low-value women” and the reasoning being “she wasn’t a virgin when they met”. That’s when i knew. Hope he wakes up from the Fresh & FIt and Andrew Tate red pill
I'm 9months pregnant and the other night I came into the bedroom wearing a walmart nightgown and a face mask with unwashed hair and a huge belly. My husband looked at me with the same smile he had when I walked down the aisle ❤ There's nothing wrong with getting dolled up for your partner, but it shouldn't be a deal breaker if the every day look isn't insta-glam!
OP's second update describing everything she did for her husband made me shout "OP, MARRY ME INSTEAD PLEASE!" Her poor excuse for a husband was so lucky and he threw it all away!
@@Oceanmaid91 He better fucking not because if i were OP, id throw him a leash and tell him to wear the thing and go whimpering back to the bitch he knocked up and NAIL it there
This OP was an amazing woman and the husband threw it all away cause of ‘financial infidelity’ The dinner she made in update 2 not only would I be absolutely loving it, and her in turn. This woman ain’t low value she is a gem. Hell I’d love to cook with her too and help her clean up cause I’m grateful for a good meal
@@Ser_Matticus I wonder - mind you, I only know idiots like Tate through people debunking their stupidity, not by watching their stuff - isn't the new woman "low value" now, since she's no longer a virgin?
He had another video a few days ago that was surprisingly all 1 story/post as well, and while that one wasn’t as deserving of having one entire video dedicated to it in my opinion, his rants and opinions legit took up around 5 of the 15ish minutes of the video when added up 🤣🤣 about to start this one, but if it’s similar, I’m here for it.
Husband has “taken the red pill” somewhere along the way and has acquired some extraordinarily toxic beliefs and opinions about women. I am so glad she’s getting out, because he is a low value man.
it's actually incredible. She earns just as much, works in a high-value field, does all the housework, saves and makes crazy good food and she's a ... low value woman. What does that make him? He earns no more than his wife and fully depends on her in EVERY other way. Like, if a no value man exists, it's him.
just checked and the FINAL update from OP is up. It took tons of evidence for Amy to finally believe her, but she did... and forgave Joe for lying because "he had good reasons." His reason was he didn't want Amy to feel guilty for sleeping with a happily married man so he made up lie after lie to make OP sound unstable at best and dangerous to herself and others at most. Which TOTALLY makes sense (/s). Someone in the comments said that they hope Joe and Amy have the day they deserve, and OP agreed, saying it was one of her favorite backhanded compliments; "I hope you have the day you deserve."
I'm a straight woman, and I'd marry OP just for her cooking. It's too bad she wasted over a decade of her life for a low-valued doof. I hope Amy comes to her senses. Side note: I watched an episode of Snapped where a woman had a husband who was a lot like Joe. The woman ended up running him over multiple times. I'm not condoning her actions, or suggesting OP do likewise. I'm just saying... 🐸 🍵
I prefer to cook, my last two exes (mega-cheater ex and baby mamma ex) both gave me food poisoning. Plus isn't cooking for someone part of a couple of the "love languages"?
All I know is that the ex and Amy would come back one way or another. Amy realised she is screwed for 18 years And The ex " realising" he made a mistake and wants OP back
Can't be Tate. Because it clashes with Tate's value. Because you know damn well Tate not advocating that male behaviour. Tate just advocate man become more manly, not like a didlo (have a d*ck, but weak at)
The moment he said OP was a low value woman my jaw hit the floor This lady is bringing home 200k, cooks awesome meals, and is very loving and understanding. LOW VALUE??? I'm glad OP is leaving him and feel a bit sorry for the 24 year old. She is a very young career driven financial professional who has a lot of potential and now she has that deadweight as her baby daddy ugh
I really do feel for Amy. She was lied to and systematically manipulated by a man almost a decade older than her who seems to primarily value her for her innocence (read: naivety) and her virginity (read: too inexperienced to know anything better). This man fed her so many lies making himself out to be a selfless martyr staying with his drug addicted ex-wife just to make sure she's safe and giving everything so that she can have a good life. He also lied about his vasectomy meaning there's some really gross consent issues going on there as well given that Amy herself says the baby was not planned. I hope she sees all the red flags after talking with OP and runs for the hills.
I have a theory that he found out about the virginity thing after befriending her and got a kink about it. All that misogynistic crap is probably from the "finance bro's", as Amy called them. I worked in finance and one guy bought himself a flat screen TV after his promotion but made his girlfriend borrow their neighbours vacuum. She was a full time nurse and his idea of helping was tidying occasionally which I had to explain wasn't cleaning. I berated him so badly in the office he immediately bought her one, apparently she sent her thanks
OP: **Uses her fun money to overhaul her new gaming setup** Husband: *"You weren't supposed to do that."* F*ck off, that's HER money. So what if she didn't tell you? You didn't ask. The fact he wants to make the rule that fun money can't exceed 2k is just insane.
Well it wasn't being spent on "making it up to him" or his newer model girlfriend, of course he was angry. She was using it to be a happier person for herself. Of course a dick like him would be pissed that she's not bending over backwards to make him happy with every single thing that could pleasure him.
He wanted the money in the joint account so he could take it all later for his mistress and him. He must have been unhappy to hear that she locked the account so he can't drain it.
If buying the gaming setup was what led to this chain of events, at least she can say it helped her in more ways than one. Who knows how much longer he would've continued to be a burden to her otherwise...
@@Laz3rCat95Nope, that's not what did this at all, its just why it finally got uncovered... Remember the guy was unfaithful for a Year before any of this came out...
So not only is this A-Hole of an ex-Husband, Joe, cheating on OP, but was feeding absolute lies about OP, insulting OP no matter how much he tried to please him, and then justified his cheating as "It's not cheating because you're low value." Cheating is cheating, Joe. You can't excuse that. Also, you just doomed Amy.
Amy was sadly manipulated by someone almost a whole decade older than herself, Joe should've known better as the older of the two. Age gaps that big are always suspicious as the older most likely manipulated/groomed the younger. I feel sad for what her new future will look like
This mentality runs rampant through the finance sector. They have their own versions of "Trophy Wives", who ideally make 2/3 of what their husband makes, and are successful in their own right, while still being "dependent" (they are oblivious to that contradiction). They want a woman with a very lucrative "hobby" that doesn't stop them from being the perfect 1950's TV housewife. It's a dick-measuring contest. Interestingly, these guys aren't even the real predators. There are a lot of very intelligent, very attractive young women who realize this vulnerability, and exploit it. They ride these poor saps to the top rungs of the corporate ladder, make sizable profits on multiple divorces, and sometimes deliberately use them as unwitting sperm-donors so they can have their dream family, financed by the father who is not in the picture. It sounds horrible, and it is, but there are even Facebook groups where women with those specific ambitions trade tips on how to lock down that lifestyle. It's unhinged. I don't think "Amy" is one of these people, but guys like "Joe" are a prime target for them. I would not be shocked if one of these women targets him quickly and there's a new woman in his life within a few months. He thinks he's the biggest fish in a small pond, but there's a Megalodon out there with a pert ass, perky boobs and a Harvard MBA looking to make a quick snack out of him. It's only a matter of time. He's too stupid to evade them. He will take the bait. I've worked with a lot of these woman, and they are not "Gold diggers" looking for a sugar daddy. They're something else entirely. They use people as stepping stones toward much grander ambitions. Think Elizabeth Holmes levels of sociopathy. Guys like "Joe" are exactly what they're hunting for. He's doomed. Role-reversal is practically inevitable. If OP was just a hapless $45k a year helpdesk technician who smoked pot and played video games all day, I'd take her as she is, sight-unseen, lol. She's chill and can pay her own rent, that checks most of my boxes, lol. These guys who chase after the "perfect woman" are insane. Perfect is boring. Boring and high maintenance. When it comes to relationships, I think Alice Cooper nailed it in his song "You and Me". That's what people should strive for if they want to be happy. If that's not enough, nothing ever will be. This "Amy" will figure it out in due time. I get it, he's fed her lies, she has no reason to believe OP, and she's inexperienced and very vulnerable right now, so those lies likely give her a lot of comfort. She doesn't want to see the truth. If she did, she'd have asked to see the divorce settlement agreement that would confirm or refute what "Joe" has told her. She's making a choice to not look under that rock. But when she requested to speak to OP, I think there were some doubts there, even if she's not ready to face them. I'm confident she'll figure out the truth. Lies concealed by more lies... it's a house of cards. He can't keep that up forever. The good news, at his $200k salary, when she comes to her senses, she'll be entitled to about $450/week (conservatively) in child support. That's not a ton of money, but it will pay for the kid and their college fund, and financial firms don't look fondly on wage garnishment for non-payment... they are sticklers on things like fiduciary responsibility, so he can't duck payments without a serious hit to his career prospects, earnings and lifestyle. It will be in his best interest to pay up, no questions asked. It will be a hard road ahead for Amy, but not too hard, especially if her earnings are comparable to his (which it sounds like they are). And OP may feel a bit foolish for having believed him for so long. But she sounds like she has a good head on her shoulders and won't be too hard on herself. I have faith in her resiliency.
@@ahstiasummers5583 Joe should have known better, yes. But he was never going to go for a sophisticated and worldly woman. The Tater tot wants a doormat who will lap up his bullcr@p stories.
Dude in the story found out about Andrew tate. That’s definitely the alpha bro mentality. If he’s that easily manipulated by an idiot like Tate she’s better off without him
Yep the second I heard "low value woman" I was like "aha, he's been listening to *those* podcasts". This woman sounds like a 11/10 catch. He's a moron.
If you ask me, the men of this world would be better off without both of them. Tate and all the dudes that take after him are contaminating the reputation of the genuinely good dudes that would meet OP and probably cherish her because she is such an amazing women. She's a hard worker, she cooks some pretty good shit, she's smart as hell, she's a gamer, she knows how to budget and save money while doing nice stuff, and the husband was too infected by the submissive housewife and sex appeal to see it.
I remember this saga. I remember thinking that amy's social/emotional development most likely took a back seat to her education. We learn how to socialize and develop our EQ by being around our peer group, skipping grades and graduating early and such would have made relating to kids her own age hard, and also the people she's always been surrounded by weren't like her. She was and is a kid in a world of adults. I'd say she'd have been an easy target for OP's trash ex to manipulate.
I can't describe the rage inside me right now. This woman puts in so much effort, makes a ton of money, and doesn't spend a lot of money, and she wants one thing for herself and he freaks out because he thinks she doesn't deserve it because she's not a virgin.
@@akl2k7 The more OP talked about her scumbag husband, the more I hate him and the more I feel sorry for OP, Amy and the poor baby. OP's ex is literally the only person who I don't feel sorry for. He deserves everything he got. I hope Amy dumps him and sues him to heck and back for child support.
@@akl2k7 "What about his value?" His value doesn't decrease from having a lot of partners, it increases. That's how this messed up, anti-reality mind-set works. It's called "Red Pill philosophy", which is an insult both to The Matrix and the concept of philosophical thought. It's sadly way too popular with young, inexperienced men. People often ask why there are so many young men who are having trouble finding partners. Well, here it is. Basically it's thanks to sites like TH-cam not properly banning these channels that promote such toxic BS.
@@ultimatetrashpotato2751 from the "low value" terminology I am CERTAIN of it. I almost feel sorry for the girlfriend, she's signing up for a relationship with someone who has come to follow the ramblings of that pedo narcissist, Tate.
Yeah, it was definitely not malicious. She's going to get taken for a ride. One might say she's already been taken for a ride but I say that nightmare train is just beginning.
Poor Amy. If she didn't have relationship experience with lying, cheating, mendacious men before, she sure does now. I hope that she now recognizes the signs to avoid those kinds of men.
I actually don't have any pity or sympathy for Amy. The second she asked OP she knew the truth so when the same thing happens and it will, she WILL deserve it.
My whole thing is you CAN for the most part, tell when someone has done drugs. And if that's been his excuse that she was still doing them you could TOTALLY TELL by meeting her. Amy just was refusing because she thinks she has a catch, when in reality, she doesn't.
@@lillylovegood2300 She's definitely in "denial" stage. She's got anger, bargaining, grief, and acceptance left to go. Plus, she's most likely given birth by now. A good many 24 year-old women in a situation like this would also be making these decisions through the lens of fear. Nevertheless, you are right: _she_ made the choice to engage in an adulterous relationship with a married man, no matter how he presented that marriage to her. Doesn't she have friends or family to talk to about this?
Oh, I’d bet folding money that Amy will double down, shut it all out of her mind, and waste way too much time with this asshole before the truth smacks her in the face. She has no incentive to admit the truth now: she’s *very* pregnant and in a very vulnerable position, plus she’s still love-drunk over this guy. Maybe she’ll gather up her strength and kick this asshole to the curb, but the odds are heavily against it. I’d actually be able to summon up a modicum of respect for her (not more than a modicum, though) if she does. And I’ve met plenty of people who were book-smart but had absolutely no common sense so the truth of the story notwithstanding (because it sounds like a cheap romance novel), people like Amy do exist.
I nearly spit my drink several times when you quoted that husband. God damn. The things this wife does, I'd be falling over myself to anything for such cooking. Dishes, I got it. Need any simple help with the food prep, I'm on it. Chores? I'll take care of it. OP is the JACKPOT of wife material, this guy is a absolute DINGUS
Amy's career could also be in jeopardy because most places have a no dating subordinates in the company. Which she could loose her job over and then become 100% dependant on the slimeball!
“Acts of service is one of his love languages” That means that YOU perform acts of service for YOUR PARTNER! Not demanding that THEY perform them for YOU!!! Jeez this guy has gone down the red pill, alpha-bro rabbit hole.
I think OP missed out on telling her (now ex) husband that he, too, is low value as he wasn't a virgin when they married either. So they are literally on the same level value wise as people. I wonder how Amy will feel when SHE gets told she is low value due to not being a virgin when they married, despite him being the one that took it. I would like to be a fly on the wall when Amy starts asking serious questions about the house that "he owns" that OP is living in and brings up the fact that she and OP have spoken. Should be fun. Wonder how long they last after that. I hope Amy takes him to the cleaners for child support.
I'd really hope her getting confirmation that the house actually is OPs house will open her eyes to the fact that her entire relationship is based on lies. From how groomed she sounded that chance is quite low, tho ... Guess Joe has already prepared a story about OP screwing him over during the divorce proceedings and getting the house because she "slept with the judge" or something.
I feel awful knowing that this is going to turn her from naive and overly trusting to having ridiculous trust issues. The ex husband is one of the worst kinds of people, and knowing people like this exist makes me furious.
As a man who celebrated his 14th wedding anniversary last weekend I gotta say. THAT MORON OF A "HUSBAND" does NOT have his priorities straight. Virginity is SO overrated in this day and age. My wife and my son are my entire world. I love them more than anything and can't stand the thought of hurting them in any way. I'll be honest, my wife does have health issues that I deal with alongside her. Supporting her through her own struggles because at the end of the day I want her to feel loved and happy. Even if I work my ass off while she is sleeping and can't always share our marital bed together. I still would NOT ask her to do this stuff that OP's lame ex did. Because for one, I unwind from work by cooking for my family. Its a healthy outlet for my frustrations at work I feel because I put that energy into a show of affection towards my family. At the same time my wife helps keep our house clean and our son healthy. We find it to be a very strong balance of responsibilities. And with that our relationship is stronger than so many others. I love my Lacy and hope that our marriage lasts the rest of our lifetimes and that we find each other again the next time we are both born.
This is the sweetest comment I’ve read here, I wish you and Lacy all the love in the world, your son to be healthy and happy, and you see each other again in the future. Bless you dude, you sound like a really lovely guy!
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The good news is that since there's obviously a non-zero chance of you and your wife existing and meeting each other, it inevitably _will_ keep happening again and again. :-)
My ex left me because he couldnt deal with my health issues so reading this really gave me hope, thank you, ive genuinely believed for a while nkw that i woyldnt be able to find someone happy to be with me. Im so happy for you and your family and i bet your wife appreciates what you do a lot
No joke, the OP sounds like perfect spouse/partner material She's extremely independent, smart as hell, has an amazing career, and has cozy hobbies and interests
such a heck of a story, that husband is a monster, OP is just amazing in so many ways with how much she tried to keep up and with how she's handling it. Makes me also wonder if the husband's job has any rules about dating coworkers. Honestly I really want to know more it's a shame there isn't another update or two, I want to know if Amy learns the truth or if she falls for the lies and lashes out at OP, I feel like I got like a synopsis of a movie that only covered 2/3rd to 3/4ths of it
Story 1 is just wow. The audacity of the husband to say thayt she is not a high value woman, when she owns the house and contribute to bills. Wow, just wow.
Haha, that's not what a high value woman means in those red pill losers world. It is looks and submissiveness. The dude didn't even get that right. The guy is repulsive.
This man is Amy's canon event. At least she'll know that men like this exists and she shouldn't believe every single thing a man who never spends the night and impregnates her says.
OP in the first post is like greatest thing anyone could have. She cooks, has a house, is financial stable, has a seemingly low stress, high pay job AND HE WANTS MORE? I feel she is living the 21st century dream and he got stuck in the 1950s
The coworker sounds a little naive. Now he's torpedoing her life trajectory with his lies and broken promises. He's probably not gonna be a good dad, he's promised her a house that's not his, he's lied about surgeries that he's never made, and that's likely only the tip of the iceberg of falsehoods in this affair. Now she's tied to this trash heap, it's gonna weigh her down in the end till she can cut the dead weight. Good on OP for getting out of this mess and knowing her worth. Wild that this started over buying a gaming PC.
A _little_ naive? Every new thing she said, I started turning into a middle-aged woman saying "Aww, honey... no" I feel bad for the girl. Because she may be 24, but has the social skills of a 12-year-old.
@@jimbobjones9330I'm 24 and I'm horrified by the almost-willful ignorance on her part. Bro. You can't say you didn't know to not reciprocate a married individuals' interest...
@@jimbobjones9330I'm an unkissed 20y/o and even I know better than to believe in someone who says they're separated but not divorced or that they don't need condoms because they're using some other birth control in a relationship that barely started
I remember this story, op's husband is a terrible, terrible dude. Accusing his eife of financial infidelity while he commits actual infidelity and turns into one of the worst types of people imaginable
Between update 2 and 3, I was like, “please don’t be this naive,” and then in update 3, “some of his demands were sitting poorly with me” BOOM! Now you get it! That’s what I said all throughout update 2!
I hate that I can say this, I'm going through the same mental process she was. 'my comfort, doesn't matter right now. I need to look prettier and do more to make my man happy' even though I know it's wrong and not me at all.
god this op is the most valuable woman i’ve heard of and i hope she’s doing great. She has every aspect you could want in a partner, well kept, Good pay, loyal, and above all honest.
Yep. The drug-addicted broke high-school dropout managed to get a powerful team of lawyers and guilted them into letting her keep his house. I've never wanted to shake anyone more than I wanted to shake the mistress. That girl (and, yes, I know that at 24 she's technically a woman, but we both know she has the social knowledge of a 12-year-old) really, really needs a good reality slap.
@jimbobjones9330 not to mention, supposedly OP only makes 40K a year and can somehow afford a team of lawyers as well as the house. The fact that these are all lies is going to hit the homewrecker in the face and hard.
@@jimbobjones9330 it'll come out in court and after the baby arrives when she can't even get him to wash a dish let alone change a diaper and hear him complain about how she's let her appearance go can't keep a house and have a three course dinner ready when he gets home but it's her bed she can lie in it with the lying cheater
That dude is nuts and you know she got pregnant because he didn't use condoms as she was a virgin. Just told her he had a vasectomy to make her let him do that.
@@0Arcoverde Well it's certainly non consensual impregnation. It's not as if he took the condom off during sex though, that kind of stealthing is punishable by law. She consented to condom free sex probably, which isn't exactly rape.
@@Starsmelter Well then a woman is raping a guy if she says she's on the pill and isn't. Or doesn't tell him she had some antibiotics or stomach upset so the pill doesn't work.
Seriously, she can cook AMAZING meals, she's a gamer, she has a stable job, she's responsible, she's loyal and she is REASONABLE. I know guys that would kill for that kind of love.
I feel so bad for both of the women in this story, he duped them both. Here's to hoping things get better for them and that he suffers the consequences of his actions. Amy should dump him and force him to pay child support.
21:40 She’s not stupid, she’s naive and trusting, that’s why creeps go after women younger than 25. Young women can usually fend of incompatible men their own age but old men know how to manipulate them and seem better and more mature. The same playbook that had him calling his wife low value was the same one that tells older men to prey on younger women and clip their wings so they are dependent on them, usually through pregnancy.
I had a similar conversation with my step-mother 15 years ago. She'd just married my father (who was 27 years older than her) and was very pregnant with their first child. She was bad mouthing my mother to me - listing all the things my father had said about why they split up. While there were some truths in there (the minor stuff was all true - my mother isn't perfect) but there were massive lies that I knew for a fact were completely false. Strangely enough he seems to have failed to tell her that he cheated on my mother with multiple women for decades, she was the last in a long line and was stupid enough to get pregnant. Anyway, the fact that she never considered that her source was bias and a cheater (and therefore a proven liar) told me that she was an idiot. And the fact that she was repeating all of this to me about my own mother unprompted and unprovoked told me that she is a raging arsehole who deserves my father - I hope she enjoys being his pension fund and changing his diapers while he messages other women online in his dotage.
Wow a serious neckbeard got a slim successful woman with many skills, values, and commitment, and he was like "you're not good enough for me, I deserve more!". Sounds to me like you were TOO good to him, and he started treating you like his mommy, turning into a spoilt baby.
For the update on the last story the divorce finalized quick and easy, Amy finally believed op but Joe made up a new story she believed where he did it cuz he was scared of her leaving him because he had never felt this way abt someone bla bla bla, Amy told everyone this new story making them the good guys where Joe had to take all this guilt for their relationship, Op warned Amy abt how he will do the same things to her, Amy didn’t care and believes he’s a changed good person.
OP makes almost a quarter million a year, cooks, is in shape, AND GAMES, and her "husband" isn't worshipping the ground she walks on? WTF?!?! Ditch him. I can safely speak for at least 90% of straight men and at least 50% of gay women when I say that you're a frickin unicorn. Anyone would be lucky to have you as a partner.
You always see these manosphere videos online but seeing it in real life in an actual situation like this is just...holy cow. He ACTUALLY believes in this stuff. That's really terrifying for the future.
Holy cow! I honestly feel bad for the girlfriend. The novelty will wear off damn quickly when the baby comes. She’ll start seeing the lies and he won’t have his little virgin screw bunny on demand anymore because babies obviously have to come first. Yikes!
This...facsimile...of a man... I don't have words. If I was so phenomenally lucky to have a wife as this poster, I would be doing *EVERYTHING* within my power to make sure that this goddess was happy with me.
What exactly was going through his mind when OP’s husband made any of these decisions? The lies he told Amy, chasing after this girl, trying to gaslight Op into thinking she wasn’t putting as much effort into the relationship as him, getting Amy pregnant, bragging about the affair- what was he thinking?!
First Story, NTA: What it sounds like is OP's husband is mad that OP is more responsible with her fun money and he is insanely irresponsible. Why should OP be punished for being good with her money? Also "financial infedelity"? I’ve never heard of that before in my life. OP's husband needs to stop trying to dictate what OP does with HER fun money First Update: What??? So basically he is mad at OP because her job allows her to work comfortably and gives her a flexible schedule? If he don’t like his job then he should find a new one at a different place. Also, he is complaining over the very minor things OP stopped doing? This man doesn’t want a wife, he wants a maid. So basically his expectations and standards grew and OP doesn’t reach those standards. This guy is becoming more and more of a red flag Second Update: There it is, the red flag in full display. This man called OP "low valued" because she wasn’t a virgin when they met? Also, OP says they met at 21 and they're both not overly religous so was he expecting to find a woman who is and would wait until marriage for sex. I found it hilarious he called OP entitled when he was acting the exact same way 😂. This man has some massive balls to admit to cheating in the condecsending way he did Third Update: Whaaaaaaat??? This man claims that because OP is "low value in standard" his cheating don’t count?! This man is a scumbag and OP can find someone much better (and easily) than this prick Fourth Update: Lmao this guy pretty much downgraded from OP to this woman living in a small apartment. All because Amy was a virgin and he got her pregnant. The fact that OP has a lot of money left in her fun money account after all the court fees, lawyer fees, spa, and getaway speaks volumes of how great OP is with her money Fifth Update: Lmaoooo Joe told Amy lie after lie just to make himself look good. The fact he really told Amy that the house was his, that OP was a high school drop out, a drug addict, and all kinds of bs just to get with Amy is baffling. Amy is honestly screwed if she is going to stay with this guy because it seems like the whole thing with OP is going to repeat with Amy. Amy needs to get the reality check asap before this scumbag ruins her life
The scumbag already ruined her life by saddling her with a kid that will impact her career. And you _know_ he's just going to skip out on child support and be nothing to that child.
Honestly, at this point, Amy is coming off as one of those women who just believes in their man and would never in a million years believe that he would lie or betray her in anyway shape or form and if anyone tells her otherwise, then the person is lying just to get them to break up. Like, if feels like Amy would go after and blame the other woman claiming that she's stealing Joe from her if she sees Joe cheating on her.
Wait Amy, the mistress, asked op when OP will move out of HER HOUSE? I don’t want to think Amy is completely stupid but she might be starting to see her husband’s lies and already feels trapped because they’re having a baby together.
She IS trapped because they're having a kid together. Unless the worst comes to pass or she changes her mind and finds and unicorn doctor, or Joe's just goes complete MIA, no child support anything, she's stuck having to deal with him for at minimum the next 18yrs.
She's a 100/10, anyone would be lucky to have her. An amazing salary, makes HOMEADE dinners (seriously, that from-scratch assorted bread bowl was insane), is a gamer, whats not to like?? She's a catch and she should know it. 10+ years of marriage is not worth it, don't settle with a mistake just because you put so much time into making it.
The dude gets food in his mouth and he STILL complains. New rule: hubby you do the cooking. You want to complain about the food not being up to your standard? You do the cooking to meet that standard.
From the beginning, I was saying to myself _"he's making excuses to cheat on her"_ and if only that was all it would've been bad enough, but good god did it just keep getting worse.
My husband and I broke up just before the pandemic, and we still live together as roommates. We will be selling the house next year. He has had the same girlfriend for all this time, maybe 6 mo before we split. We moved away for his job for 18 mo., then back again. I had to quit my job of 14 years. Now I'm 50, poor health, and jobless. Life sure has turned out great. I wasted 23 years of my life, I'm glad OP is in a better situation. ❤
Holy cow. She's essentially a dream woman and he is calling her a low value woman. She makes 200k, cooks, cleans, is athletic, has hobbies and is willing to go out of her way to please her husband. How could you be so stupid to ruin that.
When the update said he cheated, him originally telling her that she should've put all of that money she had into the joint account was straight up him wanting to just take that money back out to give to Amy. Thank goodness OP didn't return those items like he asked.
I don’t have a lot of relationship experience either, but even I wouldn’t fall for “I’m legally married but we’re not together” or believe the baby I has with a guy who told me he had a vasectomy miraculously happened.
Or even the "I can never spend the night with you because my drug addict wife, who I don't sleep with, needs me and I am such a hero to be there for her"
Yeah I can accept the first one (my dad and mom had the same situation for 5 years, eventually they got divorced and my dad married his second wife; also my mom left him not the other way around, she wanted more in life than to be a stay at home wife, and my dad was working two jobs [one military, one in the food industry] so he was never home, because he was trying to make extra money & learning how to cook; hell the man was dishonorably discharged for drinking on the job due to the depression of her leaving him x.x) - the second one's iffy but it happens (vasectomies can undo themselves, it happens though rare, 1 in 4000) - but the third one ontop of all of that? Yeah No there's no way he'd have to stay Every night with his wife who leads a "separate life from him"...
i'd believe the separated thing, because it happens, MAYBE the drug addict thing because i see good in people, but the "i had a vasectomy but you're pregnant"? hell nah, basic biology is where it's at also, i definitely wouldn't keep the baby "because it was a miracle". poor amy has some harsh lessons to learn
5:35 so, he’s complaining that his job of choice requires more effort on his part for the same amount she makes? And that’s her problem how? He needs to grow up.
plays video games, cooks, loves you, is fit/healthy AND makes 200k a year … the literal perfect partner and so I am left wondering what could go through your mind to make you cheat (sigh)
The husband is a fool plain and simple. He probably wanted some form of a trophy wife for his status as a yuppy in the 80's term. And the fact she is independent and known what she wants and is comfortable in her life. That 80/20 rule is real, you get majority of what you want and that little bit you desire is just that. Amy is reaching for the stars like him but his mistake was getting her pregnant. He basically baby trapped himself, because that baby will cause them to not have the good life he was used to. And Amy may take a hiatus in her career to take care of the baby which would mean that the ex would have to care for all of them in less of the matter of living he was used to. Live for now and face the consequences.
Haha, exactly. The way the OP described him initially, he sounded like a giant nerd that likely isn't that successful with women. Makes sense that he would take advice from 2 nerd losers who have never been in a relationship, and who will be saying the same thing 10 years from now.
OP is sooooo mature... The way she handle everything and understood the perspective od Amy. I coudn't never imagine handle this kind of matter that gracefully with my state now. I'm still learning and I hope I can be this mature one day❤❤
Going to need to find this post and work out a way of setting a reminder for 1 year. The husband is honestly scum, and I’m pretty sure that his definition of “value” is how much control he can have over it.
I was gonna say, I’m pretty sure there’s some sort of “remind me” reddit bots that you can ping in the comments, but given Reddit’s recent axing of 3rd party APIs, they’re probably not active any longer. Maybe set a calendar reminder.
Imagine having the "perfect" wife & thinking she's below your standards! 😂 I'm curious how this'll work out for him. OP seems to be doing fine (thankfully).
Can we talk about how insidious it was for the husband to get mad that his wife had way more "fun money" than he thought and insist that she return most of it to the joint account when he knew he was likely going to leave her???? He wanted OP to be absolutely screwed in the divorce even though he had no interest in being with her clearly. Im sorry, men will leave you in the desert without water. That's crazy
@@sneko2860Hahaha except it does since men are statistically more likely to do this by a vast margin, sooo maybe we should start holding men accountable for the actions they’ve been able to get away with for centuries so those statistics start to drop 😬
@@katanimefan966 I love when feminists try to talk about statistics because they never have any statistics to share. You can't say that statistics support your argument and then not show that statistic. You already invalidated your own point and you don't even realize it smh.
Poor naïve Amy. I have a feeling that Joe targeted her because of her inexperience and naivety with relationships. At least OP knows her worth and, once she’s ready to reenter the dating pool, she’s going to have men lining up to woo her, tripping each other, because she’s such a good catch.
@@kaykay8855 even if she does get help she still could be stuck with him for at least 18 years as Joe seems like the type to make Amy’s life Hell if/when she leaves him.
P.P.S My wife came over to watch this segment as well and she wants me to post that she thinks OP's husband is not just a narcissist but seems to be finding specific reasons to hurt OP to try and justify his own bad behaviour. I think it's called projection. Anyway, great post, rSlash.
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Dude...the advert...OMG...lol...do you know what a growler is slang for in the UK. Answer...erm...lady's...erm..."kitty". Not sure about wanting one to come with two cups either.
I hope we hear another update from this one RSLASH this one and the crazy mother in law who kept going on sbout "cultural differences" and "mental issues"
@@christracy2144 Same in NZ 🤣
Girl makes 200k, stays in great shape, is an amazing cook, and is even open to discussion and change when requested. She's an incredible 10/10 catch. What the hell is wrong with her ex husband? She's actually perfect. Is her being so perfect making him feel self-conscious or inferior or something?
He can’t compare so he must destroy
Apparently so, jealousy is a hell of a thing
Tate fan is what's wrong
Not to mention she plays video games too. I'd kill to have a partner to play co-op with.
I mean, I wouldn't say perfect, nothing in life is perfect, but this women is definitely a catch, and this moron is gonna regret chassing her off.
Amy is the proof that Wisdom and Intelligence are totally different things.
Jesus fuck, you ain't kidding
I was thinking the same thing
People seem to know that you can have both or neither but don't really get you can have one or the other. Amy is clearly intelligent, meaning book smart but her wisdom meaning street smarts and ability to understand herself, others and the situations she finds herself in is extremely low. I feel really bad for her because she used some God language when talking about her pregnancy, between that and being a virgin in her 20's because she was school focused, she sounds like she grew up SUPER sheltered which only sets people up to be used and abused once they get out into the real world. Which is literally what happened to her, an older man lied to and manipulated her into a relationship and falsely impregnated her to baby trap her to him...
She's 24 and already in an Executive Mentoring Program for a finance career. It sounds like she was a sheltered prodigy who wasn't allowed to focus on anything beyond her education and thus has zero skills for interpersonal interactions and fell for the 'you're so mature for your age' bullshit. It's a legitimate danger when a kid is gifted and parents should definitely support it, but it shouldn't be the only thing they have going for them.
Also proof that sometimes a college degree isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on.
To anyone curious, OP did update again recently.
Basically, the divorce went through smoothly, and she sent Amy all the evidence proving everything her idiot ex said were lies, but either Amy is an idiot, or Joe has a silver tongue, because Amy forgave him for his lies and they're still together. On a more positive note, OP is in therapy, got a promotion at work, and has roommates in her home now. All in all, Op's doing great, so there's that at least; I'm frankly losing my sympathy for Amy.
I still feel awful for amy. it sounds like the poor girl has been sheltered with no relationship experience her whole life, and with the language she used, it was a religious sheltered home, which makes it even worse. she's a prime potential victim of manipulation, specially by a man 10 years older than her who's clearly getting lessons from the podcast andrew tate guys. I hope she manages to find someone that helps her out of the situation, because people who've been manipulated to that point don't just snap out of it on their own usually, and if they do, they're too scared to get out on their own. I assume his next step is having amy quit her job to become a stay at home mom, which will make her even more sheltered and easily manipulated.
Thanks for the update! Yeah....Amy sounds like one of those people who will learn things that hard way sadly
really wish OP sue joe for slander that would give Amy HUGE reality check.
@@momomomo__ she also has ‘lost her value’ for other relationships so probably feels even more trapped
Damn shes gotta be making even more bank!!
Update: OP’s divorce was finalized and she got a promotion at work!
She sent a huge packet with all the evidence disproving her ex’s lies to Amy and she believed her. However Amy chose to stay with Joe under some “true love/meant to be” bs that Joe fed her, and they had their baby a month or so ago now.
OP is leaving them to it and is living her life to the fullest with new roommates for her empty house! (Plus therapy before getting back out there)
Thank you!
As soon as he mentioned “financial infidelity,” alarm bells went off. A lot of the time, people don’t accuse their partner of some sort of “infidelity” unless they’re guilty of it in some way themselves, usually in the sexual sense.
You are spot on. The term I tend to hear thrown around is Projection! (said like how Ace Attorney says Objection!)
Watching the husband's toxicity rise in this story is like watching a Geiger Counter go from 'Warning' to 'Run'.
Too damn accurate
Definitely watched too much Andrew Tate lol
@@NoFlyZone31that's a Fresh and Fit thing. P.s. they are loser nerds with no relationship experience. The "high value male" came from Kevil Samuel
@@NoFlyZone31as soon as he called her a "low value woman" I was like: "He's been infected with alpha male. Aw shucks."
Correction: 'Warning' to 'Run' to 'Neuter.'
Let me get this straight. Dude has a hot, athletic wife who is smart as hell, earns a big paycheck, she cooks for him, she games, she doesn’t say anything about his spending habits or how much money goes out, she earns her own money and doesn’t ask him for any, she likes being home and chatting with friends…..and he’s mad that she’s not more ambitious and doesn’t wear a lot of makeup so he’s considering other women? Dude scored a, from the sounds of it, 10/10 woman and can’t see the gold through his greed
At first glance yes his behaviour is that of an idiot. It's when it's revealed he was cheating on his wife that now his bizarre view makes sense. And by makes sense I mean it's absolute nonsense. Cheaters will nitpick or make up nonsense in order to justify the cheating with excessive gas lighting.
I think we can all agree that we'd rather her marry one of us instead of her ex
He's not mad about her being less ambitious. He's mad about her being less *submissive* and dependant.
You hate to see someone live the life you want and dunk it in the trash if I got that lucky in my life I will be on my knees thanking god for the amazing gift he gave me
Reminds me of the conquistadors from Spain back in the 1400-1500s when they found platinum, a material worth more than gold, called it "unpolished gold" and literally threw it all into the ocean.
The husband just wants a controllable, naive wife that would depend on him so much that he'd be regarded as a god-like stature. It wasn't about the money, the looks or the skills, it's about his possessive behavior to be the one in control of the relationship.
Dude literally has the best wife any man in the world can dream and he threw it all away because he wanted a servant of a wife that'd lick his feet whenever he walks the floor. I wish the best of luck on Amy because she's in one hell of a ride.
It's so obvious based on the lies he told about OP. A hopeless, high school dropout with no future without the doofus' dashing help and kind leadership in her life. Like the fantasy is so obvious and its disgusting.
Thankfully it seems like OP's meetup with Amy has probably sown the seeds of doubt and that he'll soon be left with nothing, like he deserves for being a trash human being.
@@echopeak5953 Yup, by the looks of the most possible outcome, OP's ex husband is awaiting a future of a long time of paying child support lol. 🤣
Oh without a doubt. He’ll come crawling back with the “I miss yous, Don’t you miss me, Remember all of our good/fun times, Amy is nothing like you” He’ll probably lose his job if we’re lucky, and won’t find a job as well paying as the one he has now, but still have to pay a penny for child support. Can’t spend as much money as he used to. He has to pay 80/90 whereas Amy pays 20/10 doesn’t cook as good as OP. He can’t travel as much as he used to. Amy done gained weight. Men can’t understand pregnancy weight and just calls it fat.
The moment he said “a low value woman” my fist would have gone straight thru his face and out the back of his head
I honestly think that every time a man like OP’s ex-husband says that they want a virgin woman, they just want a partner that’s submissive, insecure, and dependent. Because it certainly seems that way since he choose Amy, who fits the criteria.
As a 24 year old who’s also never been in a relationship, this is a great cautionary tale. Thanks, rSlash!
I love how he refuses to "congratulate her for basic adulting" when mans doesn't even cook for himself! Like damn who made you the authority on adulting and how did they get it so wrong??
Yeah, not even helping clean up after she went all out for him! Despicable person!
He's like a dog. He can't feed himself until his owner puts a scoop into his bowl.
@@Pikapower7 oh come on now! That's too much, how on earth can you compare this guy to a dog!
My dog is loyal and helps clean up from dinner... 😋
@@Pikapower7 Exactly right, but missing all the good stuff a dog has.
@@BlueJDev Your dog probably also shows as much enthusiasm for the same food they get every single day as the first time they were fed. All the dogs I sit for show SO much gratitude for their meals... It really warms my heart, and makes me happy to feed them. It's a shame more humans can't be like that.
The amount of lies he told his mistress is actually down right terrifying. Like the lengths he went through just to sleep with a virgin woman. Lies that can be easily proven false. The fact that he basically cosplay to be a completely different person with no guilt or shame or worry what so ever. That’s really scary. I hope both OP and Amy+her child turn out ok in the end. The man sounds too unhinged.
just the common Andrew Tate lover
@@katieburnswater7251 That's good that your husband has standards and dropped that weirdo.
Well, ex wife will be fine, especially with him not able to claim anything, and having to pay for the divorce. New girlfriend will also soon enough figure out the same, and will take him to the cleaners again, taking whatever is left as well. He will definitely wish that first he did get the snip, and also that he had kept it in his pants, seeing as his month will be the first 20 days working for the IRS, then the next dozen working to pay off the alimony and child support he will be getting. Yes, more than the days in the month, it will be the only hard thing he will have for the next 18 years.....
@@katieburnswater7251 Yikes, best stay away from a creep like that, who knows what he'd do to you when you're alone with him out of envy toward your husband for having you. Because if he's that unhinged, I don't want him alone with any woman but he sure seems to really idolize you and specifically want you.
Just listening to the meals she put together, meals I assume she did by HAND and from SCRATCH, has me thinking this woman is a Goddess! Not just that but she's successful and financially responsible. What more could that absolute loser want?
Problem is, idiots like him just want more, and can never be pleased.
Not gonna lie, i was drooling at the description of the food.
He thinks he's some Asian parent who has high expectations. But he's really not, he's an unappreciative, cheating jerk.
He resents her for not worshipping the ground he walks on. He can lie through his teeth with Amy and she is basically his footrest on command, OP on the other hand is smart and good with money (and doesn't share it with husband) so he can't believe the audacity that she doesn't realize what a catch he is.
I'm sure in husband's perfect world, OP would have stuck around and been his bangmaid giving him control over her money while Amy became his replacement wife until he got bored with her.
A “fresh” womans virginity
Ex-husband fell down the Tate rabbit hole. How sad.
As soon as i heard “low-value women” and the reasoning being “she wasn’t a virgin when they met”. That’s when i knew. Hope he wakes up from the Fresh & FIt and Andrew Tate red pill
OMG. I hate those double standards.
More like the Andrew Taint (rabbit) hole. The only thing to be found in those kinds of rabbit holes are piles of toxic bullshtick.
I'm 9months pregnant and the other night I came into the bedroom wearing a walmart nightgown and a face mask with unwashed hair and a huge belly. My husband looked at me with the same smile he had when I walked down the aisle ❤
There's nothing wrong with getting dolled up for your partner, but it shouldn't be a deal breaker if the every day look isn't insta-glam!
Congrats!!!! (I realize this was a few months ago so I am assuming you had your baby!)
@littlesongbird1 I did!!! A healthy baby boy :) he's four months old now :) thank you so much!
OP's second update describing everything she did for her husband made me shout "OP, MARRY ME INSTEAD PLEASE!" Her poor excuse for a husband was so lucky and he threw it all away!
I may not be that good a cook, but I always made the effort and to share the work load.
Watch him come back begging when he realizes raising a baby in a smaller apartment isn’t the dream he thought
@@Oceanmaid91
He better fucking not because if i were OP, id throw him a leash and tell him to wear the thing and go whimpering back to the bitch he knocked up and NAIL it there
This OP was an amazing woman and the husband threw it all away cause of ‘financial infidelity’
The dinner she made in update 2 not only would I be absolutely loving it, and her in turn. This woman ain’t low value she is a gem.
Hell I’d love to cook with her too and help her clean up cause I’m grateful for a good meal
@@Ser_Matticus I wonder - mind you, I only know idiots like Tate through people debunking their stupidity, not by watching their stuff - isn't the new woman "low value" now, since she's no longer a virgin?
Oh you know it's good when it's all one story for an episode
Also according to TH-cam on my end I'm the first view, like, and comment so slay I'm so early
You are the sixth comment
He had another video a few days ago that was surprisingly all 1 story/post as well, and while that one wasn’t as deserving of having one entire video dedicated to it in my opinion, his rants and opinions legit took up around 5 of the 15ish minutes of the video when added up 🤣🤣 about to start this one, but if it’s similar, I’m here for it.
Ooooooh I’m hype now!
Beat me to it.
Husband has “taken the red pill” somewhere along the way and has acquired some extraordinarily toxic beliefs and opinions about women. I am so glad she’s getting out, because he is a low value man.
I feel like I know exactly who the red pill is for the ex to have taken
hint, he always thought this way
He took red pill way out of context and started treating his wife like 🗑️ she deserves better and in my book a high value woman.
It's not the red pill, he took the retarded pill
it's actually incredible. She earns just as much, works in a high-value field, does all the housework, saves and makes crazy good food and she's a ... low value woman. What does that make him? He earns no more than his wife and fully depends on her in EVERY other way.
Like, if a no value man exists, it's him.
This story is gonna haunt me until Amy finds out he tricked her into getting pregnant. Any fool could know to check the deeds.
just checked and the FINAL update from OP is up. It took tons of evidence for Amy to finally believe her, but she did... and forgave Joe for lying because "he had good reasons." His reason was he didn't want Amy to feel guilty for sleeping with a happily married man so he made up lie after lie to make OP sound unstable at best and dangerous to herself and others at most. Which TOTALLY makes sense (/s). Someone in the comments said that they hope Joe and Amy have the day they deserve, and OP agreed, saying it was one of her favorite backhanded compliments; "I hope you have the day you deserve."
I'm a straight woman, and I'd marry OP just for her cooking. It's too bad she wasted over a decade of her life for a low-valued doof. I hope Amy comes to her senses.
Side note: I watched an episode of Snapped where a woman had a husband who was a lot like Joe. The woman ended up running him over multiple times. I'm not condoning her actions, or suggesting OP do likewise. I'm just saying... 🐸 🍵
I prefer to cook, my last two exes (mega-cheater ex and baby mamma ex) both gave me food poisoning. Plus isn't cooking for someone part of a couple of the "love languages"?
All I know is that the ex and Amy would come back one way or another.
Amy realised she is screwed for 18 years
And The ex " realising" he made a mistake and wants OP back
I AGREE. I would gladly marry OP. Fuck it! I could be the house dog and get pampered. 😂
I thought the same thing during this, lol
Lol I’m ace and I was thinking I would marry her!
As soon as he said “low-value woman”, I knew immediately his mind had been infected by Andrew Tate. “Alpha” finance bros love him
Out of the 2 spouses, one for sure sounds low value & it ain't her.
This. Had the exact same thought. Even paused to check the comments.
I thought his audience was teenagers not married grown men with a successful career
@@radhiadeedou8286Eh, physical teenager, mental teenager... all shakes out about the same.
Can't be Tate. Because it clashes with Tate's value. Because you know damn well Tate not advocating that male behaviour. Tate just advocate man become more manly, not like a didlo (have a d*ck, but weak at)
The moment he said OP was a low value woman my jaw hit the floor This lady is bringing home 200k, cooks awesome meals, and is very loving and understanding. LOW VALUE??? I'm glad OP is leaving him and feel a bit sorry for the 24 year old. She is a very young career driven financial professional who has a lot of potential and now she has that deadweight as her baby daddy ugh
You can definitely tell he'd been listening to Andrew Tate podcasts 😂
I really do feel for Amy. She was lied to and systematically manipulated by a man almost a decade older than her who seems to primarily value her for her innocence (read: naivety) and her virginity (read: too inexperienced to know anything better). This man fed her so many lies making himself out to be a selfless martyr staying with his drug addicted ex-wife just to make sure she's safe and giving everything so that she can have a good life. He also lied about his vasectomy meaning there's some really gross consent issues going on there as well given that Amy herself says the baby was not planned. I hope she sees all the red flags after talking with OP and runs for the hills.
I have a theory that he found out about the virginity thing after befriending her and got a kink about it. All that misogynistic crap is probably from the "finance bro's", as Amy called them. I worked in finance and one guy bought himself a flat screen TV after his promotion but made his girlfriend borrow their neighbours vacuum. She was a full time nurse and his idea of helping was tidying occasionally which I had to explain wasn't cleaning. I berated him so badly in the office he immediately bought her one, apparently she sent her thanks
OP: **Uses her fun money to overhaul her new gaming setup**
Husband: *"You weren't supposed to do that."*
F*ck off, that's HER money. So what if she didn't tell you? You didn't ask. The fact he wants to make the rule that fun money can't exceed 2k is just insane.
Well it wasn't being spent on "making it up to him" or his newer model girlfriend, of course he was angry. She was using it to be a happier person for herself. Of course a dick like him would be pissed that she's not bending over backwards to make him happy with every single thing that could pleasure him.
He wanted the money in the joint account so he could take it all later for his mistress and him. He must have been unhappy to hear that she locked the account so he can't drain it.
If buying the gaming setup was what led to this chain of events, at least she can say it helped her in more ways than one. Who knows how much longer he would've continued to be a burden to her otherwise...
@@Laz3rCat95Nope, that's not what did this at all, its just why it finally got uncovered... Remember the guy was unfaithful for a Year before any of this came out...
That's what I mean, it got uncovered that way. Who knows how much longer he could've kept it up... @@durk5331
So not only is this A-Hole of an ex-Husband, Joe, cheating on OP, but was feeding absolute lies about OP, insulting OP no matter how much he tried to please him, and then justified his cheating as "It's not cheating because you're low value."
Cheating is cheating, Joe. You can't excuse that. Also, you just doomed Amy.
Yeah, she's super doomed: getting herself pregnant by a jerk at the beginning of her career 🙄
Amy was sadly manipulated by someone almost a whole decade older than herself, Joe should've known better as the older of the two. Age gaps that big are always suspicious as the older most likely manipulated/groomed the younger. I feel sad for what her new future will look like
This mentality runs rampant through the finance sector. They have their own versions of "Trophy Wives", who ideally make 2/3 of what their husband makes, and are successful in their own right, while still being "dependent" (they are oblivious to that contradiction). They want a woman with a very lucrative "hobby" that doesn't stop them from being the perfect 1950's TV housewife. It's a dick-measuring contest.
Interestingly, these guys aren't even the real predators. There are a lot of very intelligent, very attractive young women who realize this vulnerability, and exploit it. They ride these poor saps to the top rungs of the corporate ladder, make sizable profits on multiple divorces, and sometimes deliberately use them as unwitting sperm-donors so they can have their dream family, financed by the father who is not in the picture. It sounds horrible, and it is, but there are even Facebook groups where women with those specific ambitions trade tips on how to lock down that lifestyle. It's unhinged. I don't think "Amy" is one of these people, but guys like "Joe" are a prime target for them. I would not be shocked if one of these women targets him quickly and there's a new woman in his life within a few months. He thinks he's the biggest fish in a small pond, but there's a Megalodon out there with a pert ass, perky boobs and a Harvard MBA looking to make a quick snack out of him. It's only a matter of time. He's too stupid to evade them. He will take the bait. I've worked with a lot of these woman, and they are not "Gold diggers" looking for a sugar daddy. They're something else entirely. They use people as stepping stones toward much grander ambitions. Think Elizabeth Holmes levels of sociopathy. Guys like "Joe" are exactly what they're hunting for. He's doomed. Role-reversal is practically inevitable.
If OP was just a hapless $45k a year helpdesk technician who smoked pot and played video games all day, I'd take her as she is, sight-unseen, lol. She's chill and can pay her own rent, that checks most of my boxes, lol. These guys who chase after the "perfect woman" are insane. Perfect is boring. Boring and high maintenance. When it comes to relationships, I think Alice Cooper nailed it in his song "You and Me". That's what people should strive for if they want to be happy. If that's not enough, nothing ever will be.
This "Amy" will figure it out in due time. I get it, he's fed her lies, she has no reason to believe OP, and she's inexperienced and very vulnerable right now, so those lies likely give her a lot of comfort. She doesn't want to see the truth. If she did, she'd have asked to see the divorce settlement agreement that would confirm or refute what "Joe" has told her. She's making a choice to not look under that rock. But when she requested to speak to OP, I think there were some doubts there, even if she's not ready to face them. I'm confident she'll figure out the truth. Lies concealed by more lies... it's a house of cards. He can't keep that up forever.
The good news, at his $200k salary, when she comes to her senses, she'll be entitled to about $450/week (conservatively) in child support. That's not a ton of money, but it will pay for the kid and their college fund, and financial firms don't look fondly on wage garnishment for non-payment... they are sticklers on things like fiduciary responsibility, so he can't duck payments without a serious hit to his career prospects, earnings and lifestyle. It will be in his best interest to pay up, no questions asked. It will be a hard road ahead for Amy, but not too hard, especially if her earnings are comparable to his (which it sounds like they are).
And OP may feel a bit foolish for having believed him for so long. But she sounds like she has a good head on her shoulders and won't be too hard on herself. I have faith in her resiliency.
@@ahstiasummers5583exactly
@@ahstiasummers5583 Joe should have known better, yes. But he was never going to go for a sophisticated and worldly woman. The Tater tot wants a doormat who will lap up his bullcr@p stories.
Dude in the story found out about Andrew tate. That’s definitely the alpha bro mentality. If he’s that easily manipulated by an idiot like Tate she’s better off without him
Yep the second I heard "low value woman" I was like "aha, he's been listening to *those* podcasts". This woman sounds like a 11/10 catch. He's a moron.
As soon as he said low-value woman, I knew immediately. It’s a favourite of his incel fans, many of whom tend to be finance bros like OP’s ex-husband
If you ask me, the men of this world would be better off without both of them. Tate and all the dudes that take after him are contaminating the reputation of the genuinely good dudes that would meet OP and probably cherish her because she is such an amazing women. She's a hard worker, she cooks some pretty good shit, she's smart as hell, she's a gamer, she knows how to budget and save money while doing nice stuff, and the husband was too infected by the submissive housewife and sex appeal to see it.
Anyone who listens to Tate is low value and low intelligence.
@@grymhunter2849And they're too stupid to know a submissive housewife who's career driven is a paradox.
I remember this saga. I remember thinking that amy's social/emotional development most likely took a back seat to her education. We learn how to socialize and develop our EQ by being around our peer group, skipping grades and graduating early and such would have made relating to kids her own age hard, and also the people she's always been surrounded by weren't like her. She was and is a kid in a world of adults. I'd say she'd have been an easy target for OP's trash ex to manipulate.
So... OP's partner was upset because she was spending less time pampering him and more time enjoying herself. Makes total sense. Totally.
I can't describe the rage inside me right now. This woman puts in so much effort, makes a ton of money, and doesn't spend a lot of money, and she wants one thing for herself and he freaks out because he thinks she doesn't deserve it because she's not a virgin.
And he wasn't either. What about his value? Or is only hers important? Of course, it is in his eyes. Gotta love double standards.
I'm willing to bet he fell down the Andrew Tate rabbit hole lol
@@akl2k7 The more OP talked about her scumbag husband, the more I hate him and the more I feel sorry for OP, Amy and the poor baby. OP's ex is literally the only person who I don't feel sorry for. He deserves everything he got. I hope Amy dumps him and sues him to heck and back for child support.
@@akl2k7 "What about his value?"
His value doesn't decrease from having a lot of partners, it increases.
That's how this messed up, anti-reality mind-set works.
It's called "Red Pill philosophy", which is an insult both to The Matrix and the concept of philosophical thought.
It's sadly way too popular with young, inexperienced men.
People often ask why there are so many young men who are having trouble finding partners. Well, here it is. Basically it's thanks to sites like TH-cam not properly banning these channels that promote such toxic BS.
@@ultimatetrashpotato2751 from the "low value" terminology I am CERTAIN of it. I almost feel sorry for the girlfriend, she's signing up for a relationship with someone who has come to follow the ramblings of that pedo narcissist, Tate.
Either Amy is very naive, or denial is much more than just a river in this story
She is 7 month pregnant with the child of a man she thought was a complete catch....
Of course she is in denial.
i think it's both, she's lived a very sheltered life and has no dating experience
also, she's a prodigy and prodigies are twice as easy to fool
Yeah, it was definitely not malicious. She's going to get taken for a ride. One might say she's already been taken for a ride but I say that nightmare train is just beginning.
If she's actually THAT stupid - these two belong together
Poor Amy. If she didn't have relationship experience with lying, cheating, mendacious men before, she sure does now. I hope that she now recognizes the signs to avoid those kinds of men.
Sadly it going to take him showing his true colors to her, and who knows how many years of her life he's going to steal for it.
I actually don't have any pity or sympathy for Amy. The second she asked OP she knew the truth so when the same thing happens and it will, she WILL deserve it.
My whole thing is you CAN for the most part, tell when someone has done drugs. And if that's been his excuse that she was still doing them you could TOTALLY TELL by meeting her. Amy just was refusing because she thinks she has a catch, when in reality, she doesn't.
@@lillylovegood2300 She's definitely in "denial" stage. She's got anger, bargaining, grief, and acceptance left to go. Plus, she's most likely given birth by now. A good many 24 year-old women in a situation like this would also be making these decisions through the lens of fear. Nevertheless, you are right: _she_ made the choice to engage in an adulterous relationship with a married man, no matter how he presented that marriage to her. Doesn't she have friends or family to talk to about this?
Oh, I’d bet folding money that Amy will double down, shut it all out of her mind, and waste way too much time with this asshole before the truth smacks her in the face. She has no incentive to admit the truth now: she’s *very* pregnant and in a very vulnerable position, plus she’s still love-drunk over this guy. Maybe she’ll gather up her strength and kick this asshole to the curb, but the odds are heavily against it. I’d actually be able to summon up a modicum of respect for her (not more than a modicum, though) if she does.
And I’ve met plenty of people who were book-smart but had absolutely no common sense so the truth of the story notwithstanding (because it sounds like a cheap romance novel), people like Amy do exist.
I nearly spit my drink several times when you quoted that husband. God damn. The things this wife does, I'd be falling over myself to anything for such cooking. Dishes, I got it. Need any simple help with the food prep, I'm on it. Chores? I'll take care of it. OP is the JACKPOT of wife material, this guy is a absolute DINGUS
Amy's career could also be in jeopardy because most places have a no dating subordinates in the company. Which she could loose her job over and then become 100% dependant on the slimeball!
I can't be the only one that, as soon as the husband said she was "low value" immediately thought that he has fallen into the Andrew Tate cult
Yep, as soon as I heard it, I immediately said, “that’s some Tate-shit”
I thought the exact same thing!
Yup red pill for sure
Yes. Then when worth was only attached to having or not having a v-card, it was confirmed. Red pill corner of the internet for sure.
“Acts of service is one of his love languages”
That means that YOU perform acts of service for YOUR PARTNER! Not demanding that THEY perform them for YOU!!! Jeez this guy has gone down the red pill, alpha-bro rabbit hole.
It's really scary how even married, committed men have been falling down manosphere pipelines and turning into absolute monsters.
I feel like, in cases like his, the seeds were planted a long time ago. He simply found someone that would excuse his bad behavior.
moron, he was always this way.
I've seen this happen to women, too. Sometimes people change suddenly and drastically.
@@disguysnWe’re not talking about women though, we don’t always need to bring up women.
It’s scary how nobody can see this stems from a hatred towards women, and think it’s over a lack of sex.
Amy isn't _stupid,_ she's _inexperienced._ And D-Bag is a skilled manipulator who set out to prey on her. She done got bamboozled.
I think OP missed out on telling her (now ex) husband that he, too, is low value as he wasn't a virgin when they married either. So they are literally on the same level value wise as people. I wonder how Amy will feel when SHE gets told she is low value due to not being a virgin when they married, despite him being the one that took it. I would like to be a fly on the wall when Amy starts asking serious questions about the house that "he owns" that OP is living in and brings up the fact that she and OP have spoken. Should be fun. Wonder how long they last after that. I hope Amy takes him to the cleaners for child support.
Man I feel bad for Amy, she genuinely sounds naive and not evil. This piece of garbage is going to destroy her and their kid.
I'd really hope her getting confirmation that the house actually is OPs house will open her eyes to the fact that her entire relationship is based on lies. From how groomed she sounded that chance is quite low, tho ... Guess Joe has already prepared a story about OP screwing him over during the divorce proceedings and getting the house because she "slept with the judge" or something.
And stupid, very stupid. People this gullible shouldn't be working in finance, handling people's money
I found her hard to like. She came across as frustratingly and stubbornly dumb!
I feel awful knowing that this is going to turn her from naive and overly trusting to having ridiculous trust issues. The ex husband is one of the worst kinds of people, and knowing people like this exist makes me furious.
Less naive when she keeps demanding the house though. Who asks their boyfriend's WIFE to lunch -- to demand her house? Epic Entitled GIrlfriend does.
As a man who celebrated his 14th wedding anniversary last weekend I gotta say. THAT MORON OF A "HUSBAND" does NOT have his priorities straight. Virginity is SO overrated in this day and age. My wife and my son are my entire world. I love them more than anything and can't stand the thought of hurting them in any way. I'll be honest, my wife does have health issues that I deal with alongside her. Supporting her through her own struggles because at the end of the day I want her to feel loved and happy. Even if I work my ass off while she is sleeping and can't always share our marital bed together. I still would NOT ask her to do this stuff that OP's lame ex did. Because for one, I unwind from work by cooking for my family. Its a healthy outlet for my frustrations at work I feel because I put that energy into a show of affection towards my family. At the same time my wife helps keep our house clean and our son healthy. We find it to be a very strong balance of responsibilities. And with that our relationship is stronger than so many others. I love my Lacy and hope that our marriage lasts the rest of our lifetimes and that we find each other again the next time we are both born.
Not to mention it's ridiculous to demand a virgin wife...10 YEARS after your wedding!
you sound so genuine and in love, that's extremely cute!
good luck to you and your wife, you both sound like wonderful people
This is the sweetest comment I’ve read here, I wish you and Lacy all the love in the world, your son to be healthy and happy, and you see each other again in the future. Bless you dude, you sound like a really lovely guy!
The good news is that since there's obviously a non-zero chance of you and your wife existing and meeting each other, it inevitably _will_ keep happening again and again. :-)
My ex left me because he couldnt deal with my health issues so reading this really gave me hope, thank you, ive genuinely believed for a while nkw that i woyldnt be able to find someone happy to be with me. Im so happy for you and your family and i bet your wife appreciates what you do a lot
No joke, the OP sounds like perfect spouse/partner material
She's extremely independent, smart as hell, has an amazing career, and has cozy hobbies and interests
such a heck of a story, that husband is a monster, OP is just amazing in so many ways with how much she tried to keep up and with how she's handling it. Makes me also wonder if the husband's job has any rules about dating coworkers. Honestly I really want to know more it's a shame there isn't another update or two, I want to know if Amy learns the truth or if she falls for the lies and lashes out at OP, I feel like I got like a synopsis of a movie that only covered 2/3rd to 3/4ths of it
All that and he still called her a low value woman
If I had a wife like that I’d be willing to help them with anything
Story 1 is just wow. The audacity of the husband to say thayt she is not a high value woman, when she owns the house and contribute to bills. Wow, just wow.
Haha, that's not what a high value woman means in those red pill losers world. It is looks and submissiveness. The dude didn't even get that right. The guy is repulsive.
Sounds like he was projecting his own self low value views onto op as an excuse to not do anything
@@shadowmewfred09 legit sounds to me like he started to listen to a certain someones "masculinity" podcasts
@@Neysirisswas going to say the same. Feels like he's fallen down the Tate-hole.
@Neysiriss Andrew taint 😂😂😂😂
Can't wait for Amy's reddit saga when Joe finds his new virgin prodigy
This man is Amy's canon event. At least she'll know that men like this exists and she shouldn't believe every single thing a man who never spends the night and impregnates her says.
"so he left birth control responsibility onto me"
Bro just dodges every responsibility ever
OP in the first post is like greatest thing anyone could have. She cooks, has a house, is financial stable, has a seemingly low stress, high pay job AND HE WANTS MORE? I feel she is living the 21st century dream and he got stuck in the 1950s
The coworker sounds a little naive. Now he's torpedoing her life trajectory with his lies and broken promises. He's probably not gonna be a good dad, he's promised her a house that's not his, he's lied about surgeries that he's never made, and that's likely only the tip of the iceberg of falsehoods in this affair. Now she's tied to this trash heap, it's gonna weigh her down in the end till she can cut the dead weight.
Good on OP for getting out of this mess and knowing her worth. Wild that this started over buying a gaming PC.
A _little_ naive? Every new thing she said, I started turning into a middle-aged woman saying "Aww, honey... no"
I feel bad for the girl. Because she may be 24, but has the social skills of a 12-year-old.
@@jimbobjones9330I'm 24 and I'm horrified by the almost-willful ignorance on her part. Bro. You can't say you didn't know to not reciprocate a married individuals' interest...
@@jimbobjones9330I'm an unkissed 20y/o and even I know better than to believe in someone who says they're separated but not divorced or that they don't need condoms because they're using some other birth control in a relationship that barely started
I remember this story, op's husband is a terrible, terrible dude. Accusing his eife of financial infidelity while he commits actual infidelity and turns into one of the worst types of people imaginable
Between update 2 and 3, I was like, “please don’t be this naive,” and then in update 3, “some of his demands were sitting poorly with me” BOOM! Now you get it! That’s what I said all throughout update 2!
I hate that I can say this, I'm going through the same mental process she was. 'my comfort, doesn't matter right now. I need to look prettier and do more to make my man happy' even though I know it's wrong and not me at all.
god this op is the most valuable woman i’ve heard of and i hope she’s doing great. She has every aspect you could want in a partner, well kept, Good pay, loyal, and above all honest.
She better keep updating what keeps happening because I'm 100% invested to know what happens next
his excuse for the house will be her lawyer bullied his into letting her keep it 😂😂
Oh, that's a good one! Good call.
Yep. The drug-addicted broke high-school dropout managed to get a powerful team of lawyers and guilted them into letting her keep his house.
I've never wanted to shake anyone more than I wanted to shake the mistress. That girl (and, yes, I know that at 24 she's technically a woman, but we both know she has the social knowledge of a 12-year-old) really, really needs a good reality slap.
@jimbobjones9330 not to mention, supposedly OP only makes 40K a year and can somehow afford a team of lawyers as well as the house. The fact that these are all lies is going to hit the homewrecker in the face and hard.
@@jimbobjones9330 it'll come out in court and after the baby arrives when she can't even get him to wash a dish let alone change a diaper and hear him complain about how she's let her appearance go can't keep a house and have a three course dinner ready when he gets home but it's her bed she can lie in it with the lying cheater
That dude is nuts and you know she got pregnant because he didn't use condoms as she was a virgin. Just told her he had a vasectomy to make her let him do that.
That is rape
@@0Arcoverde Well it's certainly non consensual impregnation. It's not as if he took the condom off during sex though, that kind of stealthing is punishable by law.
She consented to condom free sex probably, which isn't exactly rape.
@Iflie, no, consent must be fully informed. She was lied to. It's rape.
@@Starsmelter Well then a woman is raping a guy if she says she's on the pill and isn't. Or doesn't tell him she had some antibiotics or stomach upset so the pill doesn't work.
@@katieburnswater7251 Stealthing is, not lying about being infertile
“It sounds like there’s nothing left to keep if you no longer respect me” 🙌🏼🙌🏼 So many people need to understand this
Seriously, she can cook AMAZING meals, she's a gamer, she has a stable job, she's responsible, she's loyal and she is REASONABLE. I know guys that would kill for that kind of love.
I feel so bad for both of the women in this story, he duped them both. Here's to hoping things get better for them and that he suffers the consequences of his actions. Amy should dump him and force him to pay child support.
21:40 She’s not stupid, she’s naive and trusting, that’s why creeps go after women younger than 25. Young women can usually fend of incompatible men their own age but old men know how to manipulate them and seem better and more mature.
The same playbook that had him calling his wife low value was the same one that tells older men to prey on younger women and clip their wings so they are dependent on them, usually through pregnancy.
I had a similar conversation with my step-mother 15 years ago. She'd just married my father (who was 27 years older than her) and was very pregnant with their first child. She was bad mouthing my mother to me - listing all the things my father had said about why they split up. While there were some truths in there (the minor stuff was all true - my mother isn't perfect) but there were massive lies that I knew for a fact were completely false. Strangely enough he seems to have failed to tell her that he cheated on my mother with multiple women for decades, she was the last in a long line and was stupid enough to get pregnant. Anyway, the fact that she never considered that her source was bias and a cheater (and therefore a proven liar) told me that she was an idiot. And the fact that she was repeating all of this to me about my own mother unprompted and unprovoked told me that she is a raging arsehole who deserves my father - I hope she enjoys being his pension fund and changing his diapers while he messages other women online in his dotage.
Wow a serious neckbeard got a slim successful woman with many skills, values, and commitment, and he was like "you're not good enough for me, I deserve more!".
Sounds to me like you were TOO good to him, and he started treating you like his mommy, turning into a spoilt baby.
For the update on the last story the divorce finalized quick and easy, Amy finally believed op but Joe made up a new story she believed where he did it cuz he was scared of her leaving him because he had never felt this way abt someone bla bla bla, Amy told everyone this new story making them the good guys where Joe had to take all this guilt for their relationship, Op warned Amy abt how he will do the same things to her, Amy didn’t care and believes he’s a changed good person.
200k a year, she's fit, can cook, and she games. Bro I would be an absolute simp for a woman like that.
OP makes almost a quarter million a year, cooks, is in shape, AND GAMES, and her "husband" isn't worshipping the ground she walks on?
WTF?!?!
Ditch him. I can safely speak for at least 90% of straight men and at least 50% of gay women when I say that you're a frickin unicorn. Anyone would be lucky to have you as a partner.
And 100% of bi women, likely.
@@OuchingTigerLimpingDragon you're probably correct. I should have thought about that.
You always see these manosphere videos online but seeing it in real life in an actual situation like this is just...holy cow. He ACTUALLY believes in this stuff. That's really terrifying for the future.
Holy cow! I honestly feel bad for the girlfriend. The novelty will wear off damn quickly when the baby comes. She’ll start seeing the lies and he won’t have his little virgin screw bunny on demand anymore because babies obviously have to come first. Yikes!
What 😂 his little virgin screw bunny…I LOVE THAT!
@@CajunReaper95 not saying she is blameless. Just saying she isn’t old enough or wise enough to know bullshit when she smells it.
This...facsimile...of a man... I don't have words. If I was so phenomenally lucky to have a wife as this poster, I would be doing *EVERYTHING* within my power to make sure that this goddess was happy with me.
What exactly was going through his mind when OP’s husband made any of these decisions? The lies he told Amy, chasing after this girl, trying to gaslight Op into thinking she wasn’t putting as much effort into the relationship as him, getting Amy pregnant, bragging about the affair- what was he thinking?!
I am loving these long one story videos, they just get more and more hectic every minute!
First Story, NTA: What it sounds like is OP's husband is mad that OP is more responsible with her fun money and he is insanely irresponsible. Why should OP be punished for being good with her money? Also "financial infedelity"? I’ve never heard of that before in my life. OP's husband needs to stop trying to dictate what OP does with HER fun money
First Update: What??? So basically he is mad at OP because her job allows her to work comfortably and gives her a flexible schedule? If he don’t like his job then he should find a new one at a different place. Also, he is complaining over the very minor things OP stopped doing? This man doesn’t want a wife, he wants a maid. So basically his expectations and standards grew and OP doesn’t reach those standards. This guy is becoming more and more of a red flag
Second Update: There it is, the red flag in full display. This man called OP "low valued" because she wasn’t a virgin when they met? Also, OP says they met at 21 and they're both not overly religous so was he expecting to find a woman who is and would wait until marriage for sex. I found it hilarious he called OP entitled when he was acting the exact same way 😂. This man has some massive balls to admit to cheating in the condecsending way he did
Third Update: Whaaaaaaat??? This man claims that because OP is "low value in standard" his cheating don’t count?! This man is a scumbag and OP can find someone much better (and easily) than this prick
Fourth Update: Lmao this guy pretty much downgraded from OP to this woman living in a small apartment. All because Amy was a virgin and he got her pregnant. The fact that OP has a lot of money left in her fun money account after all the court fees, lawyer fees, spa, and getaway speaks volumes of how great OP is with her money
Fifth Update: Lmaoooo Joe told Amy lie after lie just to make himself look good. The fact he really told Amy that the house was his, that OP was a high school drop out, a drug addict, and all kinds of bs just to get with Amy is baffling. Amy is honestly screwed if she is going to stay with this guy because it seems like the whole thing with OP is going to repeat with Amy. Amy needs to get the reality check asap before this scumbag ruins her life
OP's husband has more red flags than Soviet Russia
@@yi-hira 🤣 good one
The scumbag already ruined her life by saddling her with a kid that will impact her career. And you _know_ he's just going to skip out on child support and be nothing to that child.
@@yi-hiralmao thats perfect 😂😂😂
Honestly, at this point, Amy is coming off as one of those women who just believes in their man and would never in a million years believe that he would lie or betray her in anyway shape or form and if anyone tells her otherwise, then the person is lying just to get them to break up. Like, if feels like Amy would go after and blame the other woman claiming that she's stealing Joe from her if she sees Joe cheating on her.
Wait Amy, the mistress, asked op when OP will move out of HER HOUSE?
I don’t want to think Amy is completely stupid but she might be starting to see her husband’s lies and already feels trapped because they’re having a baby together.
She IS trapped because they're having a kid together. Unless the worst comes to pass or she changes her mind and finds and unicorn doctor, or Joe's just goes complete MIA, no child support anything, she's stuck having to deal with him for at minimum the next 18yrs.
OP's scum of a husband lied about the house being his.
@@mushroommagic1697 but the real question is: how long will it take Amy to notice.
She's a 100/10, anyone would be lucky to have her. An amazing salary, makes HOMEADE dinners (seriously, that from-scratch assorted bread bowl was insane), is a gamer, whats not to like?? She's a catch and she should know it. 10+ years of marriage is not worth it, don't settle with a mistake just because you put so much time into making it.
"low value woman" - makes 200,000 dollars a year, cooks and keeps fit... What planet is this man on???
The dude gets food in his mouth and he STILL complains. New rule: hubby you do the cooking. You want to complain about the food not being up to your standard? You do the cooking to meet that standard.
From the beginning, I was saying to myself _"he's making excuses to cheat on her"_ and if only that was all it would've been bad enough, but good god did it just keep getting worse.
Trust me, everyone in the comments of the first post was saying that
My husband and I broke up just before the pandemic, and we still live together as roommates. We will be selling the house next year. He has had the same girlfriend for all this time, maybe 6 mo before we split. We moved away for his job for 18 mo., then back again. I had to quit my job of 14 years. Now I'm 50, poor health, and jobless. Life sure has turned out great. I wasted 23 years of my life, I'm glad OP is in a better situation. ❤
Oh honey, that sounds like the pits. I wish you the absolute best turn of luck!
Holy cow. She's essentially a dream woman and he is calling her a low value woman. She makes 200k, cooks, cleans, is athletic, has hobbies and is willing to go out of her way to please her husband. How could you be so stupid to ruin that.
When the update said he cheated, him originally telling her that she should've put all of that money she had into the joint account was straight up him wanting to just take that money back out to give to Amy. Thank goodness OP didn't return those items like he asked.
I don’t have a lot of relationship experience either, but even I wouldn’t fall for “I’m legally married but we’re not together” or believe the baby I has with a guy who told me he had a vasectomy miraculously happened.
Yeah, maybe you'd believe ONE of those things. But all of them? Nah.
Or even the "I can never spend the night with you because my drug addict wife, who I don't sleep with, needs me and I am such a hero to be there for her"
Yeah I can accept the first one (my dad and mom had the same situation for 5 years, eventually they got divorced and my dad married his second wife; also my mom left him not the other way around, she wanted more in life than to be a stay at home wife, and my dad was working two jobs [one military, one in the food industry] so he was never home, because he was trying to make extra money & learning how to cook; hell the man was dishonorably discharged for drinking on the job due to the depression of her leaving him x.x)
- the second one's iffy but it happens (vasectomies can undo themselves, it happens though rare, 1 in 4000)
- but the third one ontop of all of that? Yeah No there's no way he'd have to stay Every night with his wife who leads a "separate life from him"...
i'd believe the separated thing, because it happens, MAYBE the drug addict thing because i see good in people, but the "i had a vasectomy but you're pregnant"? hell nah, basic biology is where it's at
also, i definitely wouldn't keep the baby "because it was a miracle". poor amy has some harsh lessons to learn
@@yarraidalgagain 1/4000 vasectomies reverse themselves >.> Its rare, but it happens
"i cheated but it was because of you"
If you say things like this, you're a bastard
Poor woman, she is straight up naive and easily controlled by OP's soon to be ex husband. Just wait till he repeats the same thing to her.
5:35 so, he’s complaining that his job of choice requires more effort on his part for the same amount she makes? And that’s her problem how? He needs to grow up.
plays video games, cooks, loves you, is fit/healthy AND makes 200k a year
… the literal perfect partner
and so I am left wondering what could go through your mind to make you cheat (sigh)
RSlash : I don't want to spoil it
Also RSlash: puts it in the title
I mean, there's the title, and then there's... all of _that._
The husband is a fool plain and simple. He probably wanted some form of a trophy wife for his status as a yuppy in the 80's term. And the fact she is independent and known what she wants and is comfortable in her life. That 80/20 rule is real, you get majority of what you want and that little bit you desire is just that. Amy is reaching for the stars like him but his mistake was getting her pregnant. He basically baby trapped himself, because that baby will cause them to not have the good life he was used to. And Amy may take a hiatus in her career to take care of the baby which would mean that the ex would have to care for all of them in less of the matter of living he was used to. Live for now and face the consequences.
Eh tbh he'd probably just cheat on her and leave all the house and child stuff to her
Sounds like the husband stumbled into the manosphere and started listening to Fresh and Fit.🤣
Bruh, him calling her a “low value woman” gave me flashbacks to the dark time.
Haha, exactly. The way the OP described him initially, he sounded like a giant nerd that likely isn't that successful with women. Makes sense that he would take advice from 2 nerd losers who have never been in a relationship, and who will be saying the same thing 10 years from now.
100%
He wants to ask what color your Bugatti is lmfao💀
OP is sooooo mature... The way she handle everything and understood the perspective od Amy. I coudn't never imagine handle this kind of matter that gracefully with my state now. I'm still learning and I hope I can be this mature one day❤❤
Amy is DEEP in that delusion. The wake up is going to be harsh and painful.
Going to need to find this post and work out a way of setting a reminder for 1 year. The husband is honestly scum, and I’m pretty sure that his definition of “value” is how much control he can have over it.
I was gonna say, I’m pretty sure there’s some sort of “remind me” reddit bots that you can ping in the comments, but given Reddit’s recent axing of 3rd party APIs, they’re probably not active any longer. Maybe set a calendar reminder.
Please post a link here Idk shit about reddit
Imagine having the "perfect" wife & thinking she's below your standards! 😂
I'm curious how this'll work out for him. OP seems to be doing fine (thankfully).
Can we talk about how insidious it was for the husband to get mad that his wife had way more "fun money" than he thought and insist that she return most of it to the joint account when he knew he was likely going to leave her???? He wanted OP to be absolutely screwed in the divorce even though he had no interest in being with her clearly. Im sorry, men will leave you in the desert without water. That's crazy
this has nothing to do with sex so maybe leave out the sexist remarks
@@sneko2860Hahaha except it does since men are statistically more likely to do this by a vast margin, sooo maybe we should start holding men accountable for the actions they’ve been able to get away with for centuries so those statistics start to drop 😬
@@katanimefan966 I love when feminists try to talk about statistics because they never have any statistics to share. You can't say that statistics support your argument and then not show that statistic. You already invalidated your own point and you don't even realize it smh.
OP - *uses her own money to buy a gaming set up*
Husband - "you can't do that! That's financial infidelity!"
👀 🤔😂
As someone that's been in a ten year relationship, and was staying because I put in so much work, I'm so glad now that we split up.
Hell, divorce him, I'll marry you, OP! I'll clean, watch over the house, be your foot stool if you want! 😂😂😂
Facts.
Looks like it's gonna be a polygamous relationship, because I want some of that action, too! ...I hope my husband won't mind 😄
@@OuchingTigerLimpingDragon😆
Poor naïve Amy.
I have a feeling that Joe targeted her because of her inexperience and naivety with relationships.
At least OP knows her worth and, once she’s ready to reenter the dating pool, she’s going to have men lining up to woo her, tripping each other, because she’s such a good catch.
The sad thing is that I think she’s starting to see that Joe is trash but if she doesn’t get help, she’s stuck with him for 18 years.
@@kaykay8855 even if she does get help she still could be stuck with him for at least 18 years as Joe seems like the type to make Amy’s life Hell if/when she leaves him.
P.P.S
My wife came over to watch this segment as well and she wants me to post that she thinks OP's husband is not just a narcissist but seems to be finding specific reasons to hurt OP to try and justify his own bad behaviour. I think it's called projection.
Anyway, great post, rSlash.
Pretty much!
The first aita made my blood boil. That excuse of a husband is so insecure, he’s projecting on a whole new level 😭😭😭