i'm not sure about wind soaring valorous being best in slot for jade. as she's not an ultimate dmg character, the 4p boost doesn't really help her (it's a set meant for feixiao anyways). her best in slot is the duke set, because most of her damage comes from her FUAs.
oh wait, that's true. I never fully read the description I just saw "follow up attack" and assumed it was for Jade since they came out around the same time. That's my bad.
Fire damage does not contribute to superbreak, attack orb at least contributes because Firefly has a trace that converts attack (after reaching a certain amount) into break effect, which obviously helps superbreak
@@mooseoncaffeineyou don’t need to do testing because it’s already been done. Damage percent up doesn’t affect Superbreak damage either but toughness reduction, break effect, defense shred/ignore and res pen does, hence Ruan Mei.
Great video, but I would like to mention something about Boothill. His 2nd in slot best LC is a 3 star (Adversial), and it outclasses any 4 star LC in the game for him if you play it decently. River flows in Spring and Swordplay are also F2P friendly 4 star LCs for him
He's definitely not bad. He's BiS for Acheron and pretty good for DoT. He just got nerfed to hell and is barely better than E6 Pela and Guinaifen does what he does at a 4-Star level. That's why he's disappointing, and in most cases not worth it, especially since his first banner run is with Sparkle and before Feixiao and Lingsha.
@@mooseoncaffeine well yea a lot of people look at what he was v1 and what he is now, but hes a lot better than pela due to qol uptime and aoe debuffs almost on 100% of the time, gunaifen is not that good in comparion except for dot which she was kind of made for so only e2 jiaoqiu would be a real comparsion tho he is still good in dot just not made for it, sorry im not trying to be like jiaoqiu is the best ever ever its just hes a lot better than pela and guinaifen on supportive capabilities and i wish people could see that, especially in performance its a lot easier to see and look also at uptime and Qol yknow sorry this was a rant im just all the doomposting is getting to me
@dazzle810 the whole jiaoqiu disappointment situation is to at least hint for the devs to never do this again. (If they'll even listen) He was literally going to be the best nihility character, then they made him just good. Imo he's still not a better investment than Pela in most cases, since she's still super valuable.
@shammyyyy Pela already provides everything you need, and she's a 4-star. And you don't need her E6. That's the whole point. You can use them together though, since their buffs are different. Idk if it's better than Sparkle though, especially with E2 Acheron. They should've gave him something other than uptime to really tip him over the edge. Like the healing he's supposed to be adept in. And forgot to add: other 5 star supports are miles better. You shouldn't even consider pulling Jiaoqiu if you're missing Sparkle, Robin, or Ruan Mei.
for pela, she can use 4p wind set: if you have pearls of sweat R5 and enough EHR is basically a 4* silverwolf, her basic (bcz of RSPOS) skill (kit) and ultimate (kit) have debuffs that def shred. (ideal BiS for acheron). with the 4p wind set, she can easily speed up the team after her ult which she gets up in like 3 turns.
I think you mean yourself, wind set doesn't effect the team only yourself. DDD effects the team, which is why it's so important to run it with wind set on harmony units especially with fast ults, you can advance the team extremely fast. I'd recommend people farm dps relic sets and then use discarded relics to synthesise wind relics while farming, it provides so much speed but the ice set is just bad tbh, often times jingliu is better just running quantum set anyway so farming wind set directly is just not an efficient use of time imo.
Great video. Only one thing, and correct me if I am wrong I dont want to be rude, but I think that firefly benefits more from ATK% than fire dmg in the planar set sphere. Firefly benefits quite a lot from ATK and not that much from Fire dmg (6:10)
So I tried running 3 broken keel and all my supports had a minimum 40% effect res but the crit damage didn't change.... I fully tested it on a regular battle with no buff/alterations on my dps.
@Aiolet I checked earlier on a few forums and everyone said that it stacked. Its inside battle not in the character screen. Press C during battle and check again. If it doesn't work then there's conflicting info online. Edit: I'll test it myself after I have a few more broken keel pieces.
Pov me with the hardest to build characters (Acheron, Dan Heng IL and Jing yuan ish) for me Jing Yuan is a PAIN I love him tho also with Jingliu she has really good synergy with Blade IK hes a limited but Blade can do rlly well in pure fiction with jingliu that is if u dont have two supports built or dont have Pela and Blade isn't that bad to build its just crit rate crit dmg but u mainly wanna focus on HP
My favorite team is the clasic firefly team - ruan mei (cause i got gepard) and I use either bronya( acion advance)or tingyun ( the attack and also the energy regen is good for 100% uptime on mc) is that good?
@@mooseoncaffeine I am using gahalighar (don't know how it is pronounced) and also was thinking about building some 4 stars like queyi(also don't know it is pronounced) Luca asta and guinaifen
@8lolbit59 Build Guinaifen for DoT if you're using it. Sampo is better than Luka, I'd say Luka is just a waste if you have Guin or Sampo. Xueyi is just fun. She's good with superbreak but firefly is obviously better. Asta I'd say is pretty much a waste too. Yukong is better if you have the patience to speed tune her, but for superbreak Asta can be pretty good for her speed. Just make sure to pull Ruan Mei next time.
I just needed confirmation that kafka and guinaifen works so i'm pulling for kafka to make a dot team. I have seele hypercarry on team1 so another hunt seems kinda boring. I fking hate Sanpo but w/e , maybe i'll go for the phys nihility dude since he's on banner.
Well 3 limited 5 stars is not easy to get.. at least Ratio is free 😭 Edit: just because they're not easy to build doesnt mean it isn't a good team. You did not build Topaz for nothing. She's still OP with the IPC FUA team.
Hey, I have Acheron, E1 Aventurine (plus 20 crit dmg to allies with his shield) Ruan Mei (soon to be Jiaoqiu) and Pela on my team, is that good? I will be using Ruan Mei on Firefly team so I can't keep her on my acheron team. Also should I build my Jingliu? I have her but she has been lvl 60 for a while now
That's a very good lineup. If you're able to beat everything already I wouldn't invest anything into Jingliu until your other teams are done. Jingliu is very fun to play though.
I don't have Jade but I like how she already gets so much free crit dmg from her talent that you just need to slap a ton of crit rate on her and only like 100 smthg crit dmg lol
She can still do upwards of 500k with the right supports. Acheron can also do upwards of 500k, but also only with the right supports. Don't think she fell off whatsoever.
She gets 50% crit rate when her mode is activated and around 2000 ATK from her talent. I shouldve mentioned that. She's INSANELY easy to build because of those free stats. Relic luck is a whole other thing.
@mooseoncaffeine that doesn't make her easier to build. When I got her on her rerun she was an absolute nightmare to build. Even looking back on it she still was the hardest character I've ever built. But to each their own
@hypersonic3019 well that definitely is just your relic luck. If you had the same luck with Acheron or Dr Ratio it would've been worse. Acheron still needs 70 CR and 200+ CD but she doesn't have any free stats like Jingliu. Same for Dr Ratio. Neither have free ATK as well iirc. (aside from additional trace stats)
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i'm not sure about wind soaring valorous being best in slot for jade. as she's not an ultimate dmg character, the 4p boost doesn't really help her (it's a set meant for feixiao anyways). her best in slot is the duke set, because most of her damage comes from her FUAs.
oh wait, that's true.
I never fully read the description I just saw "follow up attack" and assumed it was for Jade since they came out around the same time. That's my bad.
Fire damage does not contribute to superbreak, attack orb at least contributes because Firefly has a trace that converts attack (after reaching a certain amount) into break effect, which obviously helps superbreak
@@MaTaMaDia oo interesting. I always thought it did. I may have to do some testing and make sure.
@@mooseoncaffeine yeah damage boost effects don't increase break/super break dmg, only vulnerability/def down debuffs do (and of course break effect)
You want attack percent on orb because FF converts attack into more BE
@@mooseoncaffeineyou don’t need to do testing because it’s already been done. Damage percent up doesn’t affect Superbreak damage either but toughness reduction, break effect, defense shred/ignore and res pen does, hence Ruan Mei.
Great video, but I would like to mention something about Boothill. His 2nd in slot best LC is a 3 star (Adversial), and it outclasses any 4 star LC in the game for him if you play it decently. River flows in Spring and Swordplay are also F2P friendly 4 star LCs for him
jiaoqiu isnt even bad tho, hes a really good debuffer but if youre disappointed in him ig your statement isnt wrong
He's definitely not bad. He's BiS for Acheron and pretty good for DoT. He just got nerfed to hell and is barely better than E6 Pela and Guinaifen does what he does at a 4-Star level. That's why he's disappointing, and in most cases not worth it, especially since his first banner run is with Sparkle and before Feixiao and Lingsha.
@@mooseoncaffeine well yea a lot of people look at what he was v1 and what he is now, but hes a lot better than pela due to qol uptime and aoe debuffs almost on 100% of the time, gunaifen is not that good in comparion except for dot which she was kind of made for so only e2 jiaoqiu would be a real comparsion tho he is still good in dot just not made for it, sorry im not trying to be like jiaoqiu is the best ever ever its just hes a lot better than pela and guinaifen on supportive capabilities and i wish people could see that, especially in performance its a lot easier to see and look also at uptime and Qol yknow sorry this was a rant im just all the doomposting is getting to me
@dazzle810 the whole jiaoqiu disappointment situation is to at least hint for the devs to never do this again. (If they'll even listen)
He was literally going to be the best nihility character, then they made him just good. Imo he's still not a better investment than Pela in most cases, since she's still super valuable.
@@mooseoncaffeinehe’s not barely better he’s atleast bare minimum 22% better. And he’s a straight up upgrade to guinn in every scenario
@shammyyyy Pela already provides everything you need, and she's a 4-star. And you don't need her E6. That's the whole point. You can use them together though, since their buffs are different. Idk if it's better than Sparkle though, especially with E2 Acheron.
They should've gave him something other than uptime to really tip him over the edge. Like the healing he's supposed to be adept in.
And forgot to add: other 5 star supports are miles better. You shouldn't even consider pulling Jiaoqiu if you're missing Sparkle, Robin, or Ruan Mei.
for pela, she can use 4p wind set: if you have pearls of sweat R5 and enough EHR is basically a 4* silverwolf, her basic (bcz of RSPOS) skill (kit) and ultimate (kit) have debuffs that def shred. (ideal BiS for acheron). with the 4p wind set, she can easily speed up the team after her ult which she gets up in like 3 turns.
I think you mean yourself, wind set doesn't effect the team only yourself.
DDD effects the team, which is why it's so important to run it with wind set on harmony units especially with fast ults, you can advance the team extremely fast.
I'd recommend people farm dps relic sets and then use discarded relics to synthesise wind relics while farming, it provides so much speed but the ice set is just bad tbh, often times jingliu is better just running quantum set anyway so farming wind set directly is just not an efficient use of time imo.
Great video. Only one thing, and correct me if I am wrong I dont want to be rude, but I think that firefly benefits more from ATK% than fire dmg in the planar set sphere. Firefly benefits quite a lot from ATK and not that much from Fire dmg (6:10)
Yes, another commenter mentioned that. I was always under the assumption of Fire DMG being better and nobody corrected me.
ATK% orb is indeed better.
So I tried running 3 broken keel and all my supports had a minimum 40% effect res but the crit damage didn't change.... I fully tested it on a regular battle with no buff/alterations on my dps.
@Aiolet I checked earlier on a few forums and everyone said that it stacked. Its inside battle not in the character screen. Press C during battle and check again.
If it doesn't work then there's conflicting info online.
Edit: I'll test it myself after I have a few more broken keel pieces.
Pov me with the hardest to build characters (Acheron, Dan Heng IL and Jing yuan ish) for me Jing Yuan is a PAIN I love him tho also with Jingliu she has really good synergy with Blade IK hes a limited but Blade can do rlly well in pure fiction with jingliu that is if u dont have two supports built or dont have Pela and Blade isn't that bad to build its just crit rate crit dmg but u mainly wanna focus on HP
good luck
God damn bro i wanted to watch this video when it came out but it was 2 am. AMAZING VIDEO
My favorite team is the clasic firefly team - ruan mei (cause i got gepard) and I use either bronya( acion advance)or tingyun ( the attack and also the energy regen is good for 100% uptime on mc) is that good?
THANKS, BIG MAN ❤️
pls replace with Gallagher if you're not using him.
Bronya and Tingyun are decent replacements for sure.
@@mooseoncaffeine I am using gahalighar (don't know how it is pronounced) and also was thinking about building some 4 stars like queyi(also don't know it is pronounced) Luca asta and guinaifen
@8lolbit59 Build Guinaifen for DoT if you're using it. Sampo is better than Luka, I'd say Luka is just a waste if you have Guin or Sampo.
Xueyi is just fun. She's good with superbreak but firefly is obviously better. Asta I'd say is pretty much a waste too. Yukong is better if you have the patience to speed tune her, but for superbreak Asta can be pretty good for her speed. Just make sure to pull Ruan Mei next time.
I just needed confirmation that kafka and guinaifen works so i'm pulling for kafka to make a dot team.
I have seele hypercarry on team1 so another hunt seems kinda boring.
I fking hate Sanpo but w/e , maybe i'll go for the phys nihility dude since he's on banner.
Love how you’re replying to every comment. Reply to this. Why no follow up team.. DID I MAIN TOPAZ FOR NOTHING 😭
Well 3 limited 5 stars is not easy to get.. at least Ratio is free 😭
Edit: just because they're not easy to build doesnt mean it isn't a good team. You did not build Topaz for nothing. She's still OP with the IPC FUA team.
@@mooseoncaffeine if I don’t get aven I’m suing MHY
Hey, I have Acheron, E1 Aventurine (plus 20 crit dmg to allies with his shield) Ruan Mei (soon to be Jiaoqiu) and Pela on my team, is that good? I will be using Ruan Mei on Firefly team so I can't keep her on my acheron team. Also should I build my Jingliu? I have her but she has been lvl 60 for a while now
That's a very good lineup. If you're able to beat everything already I wouldn't invest anything into Jingliu until your other teams are done. Jingliu is very fun to play though.
@@mooseoncaffeine thanks:)
I don't have Jade but I like how she already gets so much free crit dmg from her talent that you just need to slap a ton of crit rate on her and only like 100 smthg crit dmg lol
Indeed, but she's definitely the hardest character to build in this list. Still much easier than almost any other DPS not on this list imo.
@@mooseoncaffeine lol yeah that's true, she's stil kind of easy to build she's just the hardest to build out of everyone here
Fun fact welts lc works pretty well with kafka if you have a dot character that can give a debuff( like bs def reduction )
Oop I never knew that I always brushed it off. Insane info. ❤️
I'm beginning to realise that I have a very expensive taste in characters / teams 😂
Me too, me too. My cuties deserve only the best 5-star supports even though I'm dead broke.
@@EmperorIcePenguin oh my god. Good luck.
I do have E0Jingliu with E2S1Bronya - E0RuanMei - E1HuoHuo but the thing is my relics are trash 😂
soo does broken keel effect stack?
@muhammadfarrelmahmudxmipa1250 just checked. Yes it does. Good luck on your farming.
Midliu fell off 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Not really tho
She can still do upwards of 500k with the right supports. Acheron can also do upwards of 500k, but also only with the right supports. Don't think she fell off whatsoever.
Jingliu is not easy to build at all. Stop the cap
She gets 50% crit rate when her mode is activated and around 2000 ATK from her talent. I shouldve mentioned that. She's INSANELY easy to build because of those free stats. Relic luck is a whole other thing.
@mooseoncaffeine that doesn't make her easier to build. When I got her on her rerun she was an absolute nightmare to build. Even looking back on it she still was the hardest character I've ever built. But to each their own
@@hypersonic3019 I started playing in 1.4 and she was my first 5 star. She really doesn't need a lot of investment.
@hypersonic3019 well that definitely is just your relic luck. If you had the same luck with Acheron or Dr Ratio it would've been worse. Acheron still needs 70 CR and 200+ CD but she doesn't have any free stats like Jingliu. Same for Dr Ratio. Neither have free ATK as well iirc.
(aside from additional trace stats)
@@8lolbit59 agree to Disagree