Everdell Farshore Review: Salty Everdell
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2023
- Milla, Joey, and Zee take a look at this spinoff to Everdell, set by the seaside and featuring streamlined rules.
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Let's not kid ourselves: Starling Games probably already had several expansions to this lined up when they came up with the original concept for Farshore. They are milking the Everdell cow until it drops dead.
MSRP actually appears to be $100... $75 is the discounted price for preordering.
Prob 55$ online retailers
@@Slyfox1775 Doubt it. £70 in the UK ... extortionate
The new norm for "nicely produced" strategy games if $100 MSRP -> $70-75 online. The days of $55 online for at least a year after release are largely over.
Im not paying more then $50
It should not cost more then that
Thank you for this review!
Thank you for including price as a factor in your ratings. Overall value (bang per buck) is an important factor for most of us.
This such an important oversight in so many DT reviews. Especially since many of their games are given to them, it feels like a disservice to the viewer.
So excited to see it included! Keep up the great work.
It would’ve been cool if they went more of the Smallworld Underworld route. Very similar but all cards are different and maybe even some cards combinable with Everdell.
As it is, the game seems cool. I’ll probably get it at some point just because I am a huge Everdell fan and would like to have everything in the world but I’m not in a rush to pick it up.
how does Zee have 3 layers on in Florida in July O_o
Yep, I'm in a sweat just watching
It’s indoors where ACs are working 24/7. Gets really chilly
air conditioning probably
I wonder how the solo play compared to base Everdell and to Mistwood. I'd love to see that video from Mike!
Its basically the same game so single player will play out the same
My son (who is out of country for a year, so will have to wait to play this with him), happened to find a new friend that has quite a a few board games… and brought out this one for them to play. My son REALLY likes it and wants us to get it/keep an eye out for it. (We do have Everdell and 2 expansions). Maybe the price will go down after another year, cause that is pricey! He thinks I’ll like this one better, too. (I struggle with P.A.) 😏
I hope that there will be an app version.
Well I really love the everdell world! So even though it’s basically the same with some minor changes, I decided to get it. And I think this will definitely be easier to teach to new players, than the original. If they enjoy this, and develop strategies on their own, it will make it so much easier to upgrade their experience to the original. It’s also thematically similar to real life, as new comers come to Everdell they first probably come to farshore and as they get to know the lay of the land, they move onto the the great city of Everdell below the great evertree.
BTW, I love the way you showed in details all the cards from Everdell. (not many videos like that on You Tube) I watch your channel, please continue that style of covering games.
@@Greggiexplore thanks. Yeah I’ve shown how the cards work from other games like ark nova, wingspan, terraforming mars, dominion and many more. In fact I have a couple of videos that really show some interesting synergies on dominion if you like dominion. They are called is dark ages the best expansion ever and is hinterlands the best expansion ever.
I’m tempted to home rule with my Everdell some of the basic changes made to farshore, like the anchor for example
I think the stacking cards in the meadow is a no brainer good idea.
@@jtt8886 100%
The anchor are the golden leaf in New Leaf expansion
“That’s what she just said.” :)
I’ve got Everdell, no expansions - just base game. I’m fine with that.
I just ordered a copy of this. I own all of everdell but never play more than the base game. Lol. Maybe one day I’ll try out the expansions. (I’m in my mom era aka very little time for games). If nothing else I’d love to play this in the summer for a change of artwork.
Was hoping for something new in the Everdell world with new Andrew Bosley artwork, but this is not it.
I'll keep the Everdell Complete Collection.
Yeah I thought they wanted to explore the world with a story driven game?
My biggest gripe with everdell was having to dig through the deck looking for specific cards (often amounting merely to an exercise in frustration). The anchors mechanism seems to fix this, so I'm very much looking forward to trying out farshore. Thanks for the review.
I've seen this being advertised lately and had just assumed it was a completely new design set in the world of Everdell like the new Expeditions is to Scythe. I did not expect them to take Everdell in the 'Ticket to Ride' or 'Welcome To...' direction with a line of games using the same design but with a few small tweaks here and there.
This looks good but it also looks like an Everdell 2E, a total replacement for the base game at retail. If they're going to continue printing Everdell alongside Farshore, I'm not sure how to feel about this. Is it simply a streamlined version intended for new players to buy over Everdell as Zee mentioned? Or are they hoping people who spent hundreds on Everdell with expansions will now spend even more to get back to a more playable base experience like Camilla mentioned, because the huge collection is too much work to sort through and play? It's crazy now that even individual games promote a cycle of acquisition followed by culling!
Yeah, if anything, it might be better for an "Everdell with some tweaks" game to have a more flexible "free critter" mechanic(like the one in Newleaf, where it applies to a category rather than specific critters) from the get-go
Edit: apparently the anchor does that. Now I'm interested
Will they start creating regular expansions for this is the major question, as you guys discussed
Is it actually "only" $75? I thought that was the preorder price, but MSRP was $100...
Seems like it's Everdell with some expansion ideas added in (similar to Raiders of the North Sea and Raiders of Scythia) and a few tweaks.
no expansion ideas, but simplified lighter version, and else it's just selling the same thing again
@@joeferreti9442 From what I've read (from people who've played the expansions) some ideas were present in some form (the Newleaf Golden Occupied token is a similar vibe to the anchors for example). Farshore looks OK to me, although I have no reason to own a copy (I like Everdell a lot and still haven't played the expansions I have yet).
As one who owns the Complete Big Box edition, this was also a huge disappointment and miss for me. I will be implementing the stacked meadow rule (I also separate the critter and building cards and deal them into two separate rows in the meadow and allow players to draw from either stacks) though. The anchor mechanism is found in New Leaf, my second favorite expansion, with the golden leaf tokens. Farshore is a good starting point for those new to the Everdell universe though. I can see Starling Games milking this with expansions, instead of branching out in the universe, until it becomes another big box 😂 I'm actually glad I can pass on this one and play what I have without the FOMO.
Set collection. There's a high percentage of gamers who already have the "big box" but will buy this for the dopamine shot of completing their collection (temporarily).
Is anyone else boggled as to why they would make this game so similar? It's not like Everdell needed a 2.0 did it? Strange...
To be fair, many games release tons of different reskins. Easy way to cash in on the name and existing fans while polishing up a few things.
Cash grab 😏
Because thats what sequels are.... And yeah it did. These changes fix quite a lot of problems.
Which is cool and all but this is $100 msrp for Everdell 1.5.
Money money money. I guarantee many people already content with Everdell will buy this.
This is basically Everdell with aspects of Bellfaire (card type -- rather than card name -- goals) and Newleaf (the limited ability to play matching type cards for free). All are welcome changes, but there is pretty much no reason to get this if you already have the OG. Just house rule the card stacking in the meadow and you're golden.
Don't forget about the "explore / map tokens" and the weather cards that change the conditions from Spinecrest. The game feels like Everdell - The Greatest Hits which is good for people who just want one box but not for anyone already invested in the OG game.
I have Everdell and a couple expansions, I haven’t felt the need to get all of them. Got Mistwood for the new solo mode and that is good enough for me :)
I might fiddle with the new rules in base Everdell! I like the stacking of repeat cards in the meadow. The anchor mechanic probably wouldn't work, but I'll try it still.
You don’t really need the anchor, newleaf adds the same mechanism that the anchor is.
@@Animal_board_gamer I don't think I need any of the new components, if that's what you meant.
Maybe give everyone 1 or 2 round doors at the start of the game to be used the same way as the new anchors, and they'd cover up the spot on the building card as usual so that even if that building's matching critter showed up later on, they couldn't play it for free because they already got a freebie with that building.
@@Bonzoso21 I was thinking something similar. If I was to allow the normal freebie mechanic, I'd only want to give 1 anchor- might be game busting with the king or queen (not sure if this new one has a high value card like that). If no normal freebie mechanic, I'd want to start with three.
@@Mattchew2232 you said you wanted to try the anchor mechanic on base Everdell right? Newleaf expansion has the same exact mechanic, basically. So you don’t need farshore for that mechanic. That’s what I meant.
@thedicetower It's been confirmed, any of the games in this "Edge of the Map" series of Everdell games, will NOT have any expansions being released for them.
Wish there was a brief comparison made with My lil Everdell
In a "Movie" world there are Star Wars this and that, people who love the genre enjoy them all (to some degree) Same with Everdell ...anything in the genre that provides more or different is a good thing for board gaming community.
I don't have the original Everdell, but I was always interested in it. What kept me from buying the big box version with all the expansions to catch up was that it felt too overwhelming, especially after seeing Alex from BoardGameCo demonstrate it.
I decided to get Farshore instead and hope for no future expansions.
Exactly in the same boat. Everdell kind of passed me by. This, I can jump in now.
Well only getting 1 expansion might be enough
I just bought the game too. It is very pricey! I do love the game.
I read a design diary about this game and they are not planning on expansions for this game from what they said.
They did say that there is a plan for three more standalone games that represent different points of a compass. The next game they mentioned is said to have very different mechanics and be a little heavier in complexity. Whether that’s a good thing or not, only time will tell.
"The resources aren't as tight". Ooooohhhh. Is this a Agricola -> Caverna / Brass Lancashire -> Brass Birmingham situation?
I’m actually okay with “simplified” versions of heavier games. I have both Funfair and Unfair, and typically use Funfair as a way to ease folks into Unfair (eventually) - I have different gaming groups all at different levels, so having options of complexity is nice.
But Farshore seems way too identical to Everdell to warrant adding it to my collection. I feel as though Everdell is already pretty simple, I don’t see how Farshore could simplify that or standout from it enough to have both.
Why does this exist!?
Because MONEY!!
I mean, as someone who doesn't own Everdell, I'm much more interested in this than original Everdell and all the expansions/promos.
Everdell but more forgiving and with more direction for new players. On one hand that’s probably a better deal because I’ve introduced Everdell to multiple people and that first game is very tough for them. So this game definitely fixes that in a lot of ways. I will say though usually by the end of that first game it clicks for people and they see how rewarding it is to build that tableau when at first it seemed impossible. That challenge and build up really makes the game sing in my opinion. This is a huge pass for me, but can see people coming into the system for the first time loving it.
I have a friend who has played Everdell 3 times now, and still doesn’t really know what to do. Heck it took him 7 games just to understand dominion, and now he’s much better at dominion. This will be a big help for him. Remember every tree grows up at their own pace. This game will assist the slower trees. I’m sure everyone crosses paths with a slower tree, so what do you do? Do you never play Everdell with them again Simply because they still can’t grasp the game enough to strategize after 3 games? Or do play several more games that might end up frustrating both of you, because it ends up too complex for them to strategize for themselves? Or better yet do you get a more streamlined version and see if that’s easier for them and then move them on to the deep end of Everdell once they have learned to swim well in the smaller pool of farshore? That’s what this is for. To introduce Everdell to less experienced players.
That price point is prohibitive. Seems quite counter-intuitive if a company is trying to attract new players to their streamlined product.
Wow I feel like this one is for me because I got rid of Everdell a couple of years ago, I have a new partner who is getting into games, and I was just thinking I should get him into this. Thanks guys!
Geeze expensive is right. I was so-so on base Everdell but strongly considered this because I think my wife would like it. I wouldn’t pay much more than half what it’s currently going for..how is this an $80 US game?
But what ranks higher, Farshore, or Everdell with choice expansions?
Im fine with this being a standalone. I find the exps in everdell actually make the game to big and convoluted (at least for certain players). A similar game with little rules changes but a diff setting will be right up my wife's alley!
Not getting it. I already have Everdell and happy with it
I have a feeling that these recommendations for easy to get out will age like a glass of milk left out in the sun... I think its plainly obvious this will see 3 to 4 expansions within the next few years. I havent played this, but based on the explanation I think I prefer original Everdell's mechanics.
I got Everdell, played it a few times, and sold it. I feel like this new edition fixes some things I had problems with, most notably, feeling "stuck" if you couldn't fish out the cards you need for goals etc. Also the tree was just laughably impractical. Also, once I realized how many expansions there were going to be, I felt I didn't like the game enough to justify getting invested. I DID preorder this reimplementation because I feel it will be a better experience. And yes, it was too expensive but it has lots of cool pieces.
The cost of Everdell and its expansions and now this is just ridiculous and stopped me from buying a copy.
Are we giving enough credit to the artwork being part of the price point?
if I owned everything there is for Everdell I would be so pissed seeing this
Once I see it on sale for under $50...
You know, I like seeing Camilla in these videos. She's just incredibly intelligent and a good addition to the team.
So it is Everdell 1.5 for the people who did not bite the bullet on the original one. If you already have Everdell it does not seem to be worth it.
If you really want this, remember buying all the Everdell content and then they spit you in the face with a much much cheaper collection box...
Rating history for Zee G… Base Everdell 8/10… Everdell Farshore 9/10
9/10! This is as embarrassing as the price of the game... seriously no wonder some publishers are getting lazier when they can do this and get praised
I played everdell on my iPad and I really like it 😊. Since, I don't own the board game I will buy the new one, the farshore.
They should be embarrassed about the price
It's $100-120 where I am from and I must say this is such a wasted opportunity to expand on the IP itself. For me, its extremely disappointing that it isn't a fresh new experience we were all hoping for; basically a reskinned, more streamlined edition.
Unless I suddenly inherit millions or run out of love for the Everdell collectors edition, I'm not even considering this cash grab at all. ESPECIALLY when it comes at such a heavy cost, yikes
I have a lot of Everdell. I really like this world of Everdell. But I am not going to spend so much money on a game that is so much the same as Everdell. Couldn't they have made a different game in the same world? This feel like just a mobey-grab
I have everything there is to have for Everdell & Lil' Everdell all within a custom tool box and even play it on a custom made Everdell themed board game table....This announcement / release was incredibly disappointing and mildly insulting to the fan base. High price for a reskin of a game with minor improvements closely released after OG Everdell wrapped up its expansions. If you are going to change the artist on a BG franchise that is known for its art why make the game nearly identical and not something completely new?
Disapointed it wasn't another expansion to the main game. Still gonna buy it to support them though.
but why?
What do you mean support them? Why do they need extra support? They have a mega hit and are price gouging on a cloned game.
too many expansions already
I already bought this game under a different name a couple of years ago….. I’ll pass on this one
If you adjust for inflation this game costs just about the same as the original did in real dollars, only with higher quality components, so I'm not sure why the price was discussed so much. If you want good stuff you need to pay for it. I don't think the economic situation of the world needs to be laid at Everdell's feet, lol.
Where I live the price difference between standard Everdell and Farshore is around 40$. I would probably still recommend base Everdell to someone who is unfamiliar with the universe. People have found a neat two player variant and there are additional expansions for those who want more.
Are the components higher quality, though? The base Everdell components were quite good and they had a couple component gripes for Farshore in this review.
Too expensive for essentially an Everdell clone, I can't give extra credit for rinse repeat. How is that price justified? It's not accessible as a game if the price is so high that it's way too much for its target market. Remember $75 is DISCOUNTED price. I'd drop a mark for that.
Trying to get some traffic to your rather substandard channel by posting here?
I thought that DiceTower used to be in the camp of we don't talk about the price vs components, that seems to no longer be the case.....I'm not (yet) convinced that the price of a boardgame should change it's "score".
@@klawless It's a retail product, the price always matters.
@@PRC533 I do agree that the price matters just not to the score of a game. Specifically Ol'mate from The Broken Meeple's suggestion the high price tag deserved it to be docked a point. I guess the difference is my personal scoring of a game is based solely on the play of the game (how much enjoyment/fun was had). The value (or lack) of the product only has a loose bond to each other.
is this a sponsored review? because it surely looks like one. This game is just another Everdell, so I don`t get why these high scores
To be clear, it's not sponsored in any shape or form.
I just don’t get the Everdell love. I found it very mediocre, with the components doing a lot of the heavy lifting