Madolche can actually end T1 with a nibiru-proof board, follow-up, and the negate. By ending on Glassouffle + Salon (searched by a Messengelato mid-combo) + even a potential Sistart, you can go to End Phase, using Glassouffle to spin 1 Madolche into the deck, allowing Salon's effect to trigger and set Promenade, the negate. If your opponent elects to Nibiru as you leave the Main Phase, Glassouffle can protect herself, still allowing Salon to go through.
not really Nibiru proof T1 because you have to use Glassouffle early in the combo just to get a Madolche in grave for the combo. Almost every Madolche card have a hard OPT and that really kills a lot of potential the deck could possibly have
@@NikoNikoAi There are ways to not use Teacher early, but it's annoying to do. You need to find a way to get a Madolche name in the GY and also literally any other monster card, not impossible if you have a hand trap, but, still a bit of a stinker. Let's say Ash. Normal either Hoot or Anjelly. If Hoot, get Anjelly with it's effect, Jelly into Petting into Pudding. From there go glass, to Choco. Shuffle back Jelly, detach Petting to get Messenger to get Chateau. Chateau to shuffle back the Petting, detach Teacher to get Messenger. Get either ticket or salon, depending on whether or not you already have Promenade and/or another level 4 normal summon. Activate the spell, make Glass. From there, you can either end to try to bait Nib, or continue to extend. If continuing, activate Glass here and then trigger the effect. If you got ticket, summon any level for not named messenger off of Choco and get Messenger 3 (or the shuffled back Messenger 2) and Search Salon or Promenade. If you have a second field spell, hold off on Choco and search Chateau 2 off of the Ticket summoned Messenger. Make Sistart off of the Messenger and Teacher, then activate the second Chateau, and get Messenger off of Choco and Search again. Now going back to when you first search a continuous spell: Get Salon, use it and make Glass and try to end turn. If you get to end phase, use Glass to trigger Salon to set Promenade. If they Nib, chain Glass and you get Promenade. If you want to extend, Glass gets Messenger back to hand and Salon sets the second Chateau. Extra Normal Summon Messenger, go into Sistart with Glass and Messenger, activate second Chateau and have Choco grab Messenger to get Promenade. Technically these specific lines get better if you have a Petting in hand or even more so with Magileine, but if you already have those, you already have better lines available to you than these. (Note: at the start of this if you start with Anjelly as the normal and a hand trap in grave, you can end with a battle proof Hoot at Sistart's link point). Note that the ceiling of the deck goes up with 3 Messenger, two Pudding, and an even more optional second Chateau. I personally like 2 Pudding, 3 Messenger, 2 Chateau, 2 Promenade, and going first.
@@tonberryking42 2 pudding...3 messenger...2 chateau lmao my dude that is awful lol. why maximize on bricks? also going first you should NEVER be over extending just because you can protect one monster. your end board t1 should be teacher, hoot, salon with prom set. That is the ideal endboard going first.
@@tonberryking42 I see the combo, but I feel like there are some problems. The situation you described feels kinda strange because if you have a monster (hand trap) in grave, that usually means you're going second and your opponent have something on the board, which makes Tiaramissu part of your combos. It works and create lots of advantage, but it feels like a very specific situation, as you either somehow got a monster in the grave turn 1 or wants to OTK your opponent have Nib in hand and a clear field (which is very funny to think that sometimes is harder for us Madolche players to OTK a clear field then a field full of cards). Also why 2 Pudding? You only really want to summon her with Peting and you can recycle your only one so easily
Far from it. It was unplayable until it got hootcake and still unplayable in full power rulers (along wit just about every deck). It was also unplayable after the master rule change all the way until peting/teacher's release
@@DavidGreen-ly5tm before it had hootcake it had ultimate offering, so it was basically a magilene control deck that would occasionally sack you hard, honestly it was better than gadgets in March of 2013 and had a similar gameplay but because it was way more money it saw way less play
@@coreygolphenee9633 it wasnt better than gadgets as they had multiple 2 card combos that set up a rank 4 and replaced half the combo. Additionally they could make ggx and get the other half to do it again the following turn. They had much better consistency as well. Our 2 main advantages were queen being way better and having palooza. But palooza required you to be up in card advantage. The deck wasnt good until hootcake opened up a bunch of 2 card queen plays.
Some advice to anyone new to the deck from someone that's basically one tricked this deck since 2020. Bagooska in the ED is an absolute must - so many decks just don't have a way to deal with it and you will eat a ton of hand traps that stop you. I'm big on multiple Salon as basically extra copies of Called By - it just ends up being a nice extender that makes the choke points in the deck harder for your opponent. I also don't play Small World which probably serves a similar purpose but I'm not a huge fan of the card in the deck. Orange Light is also a surprisingly powerful card - combined with the field spell and Glassouffle being able to shuffle back hand traps to your hand, Orange Light + extra fairy represents 2 full negate and pops. Absolutely bonkers The difference between good Madolche players and bad ones often comes down to how well you use Pudding. She's hard to get into rotation but also, she baits out tons of problematic back row in combat. Often Torrential or Solemn Strike at the wrong time ends your turn, Pudding in control matchups is the difference between winning and losing. That sad, the deck is in an unfortunate place atm - the deck absolutely cannot play through Droplets. Hilariously, Madolche's only negation works like Veiler so dropleting the card away and hitting glass turns the negate into a 2 for 1 on the other player's side. It's very fun, but also difficult and pretty unforgiving. That said, if you do play the deck, I pray your mailmen stay in the deck and you enjoy it. It's surprisingly interesting and flexible - I've had success with Generaider, Eldlich, Guru and plenty of other fun sub engines.
@@weckar It's a little high roll sometimes but Chateau allows you to return any monster shuffled back to the hand. That includes Orange Lights. If you discard a madolche fairy and Herald, Glass sees the Madolche go to the GY, allowing you to shuffle both back to hand. Prosperity really brings it together - digging 6 cards after doing a combo and thinning a ton of Madolche cards out of deck usually gets the other half of whatever silver bullet you put in to help the deck. The fairy count is a little low but the basic combo gets them into rotation and Promenade/Glass will get them into your hand.
But orange light does not work well with pettingcesceur. You can play it but I decided against it. You can also spin veiler and ash back into your hand when chateau is on the field. And with veiler and ash there is only one monster in the grave which you could banish with hootcake and then special the petting.
Madolche is literally my favourite deck and big papi Joe is my favourite yugituber but I’ve gotta say… this made me wanna enter the scoop phase of life. I will literally teach everyone to play madolche if it means no one ever plays one copy of salon again.
I would actually like to redact my previous comment, whilst I do stand by what I said, I feel guilty for accosting big papi Joe in his own comment section. I apologise wholeheartedly. I guess the truth is that this anger stems from a deeper well of unresolved pain caused by Leah whiffing on the mind meld ban of exciton knight in playoffs, epic Le cringe moment.
I would like it to be known that the Small World in game 3 would have searched a Kumongous to get rid of the DPE and win the game... if it wasn't for the Imperial Order.
When you have Mag + Anjelly it's often best to normal mag to search peting and use her effect, giving you an extra monster to play with and not leaving your grave filled with a useless anjelly if it gets ash'd.
He started talking about how it's a going 2nd deck and I realized that TMTs are really entertaining as long as it isn't a deck you, the viewer, know how to play.
i think that madolche going first with gozen, herald and dimension shifter is much better then this list. Going second the deck does not have enough to offer, but if you go first you have a negate with promenade, protection for the madolche spells/traps with sistart and a "towers" with glassoufler.
You can end on Teacher (as your 5th summon) + promenade with either anjelly, peting or mag. Normal Anjelly - Spec peting - Spec hootcake - hootcake specgelato - add salon - gelato + peting = Teacher. Then, to play around nibiru, you save teachers effect until EP to trigger Salon and set promenade in EP. The other lines are: Spec peting - spec anjelly - anjelly spec hootcake - hootcake spec gelato - add salon - make teacher. Normal Mag - add peting - spec peting - spec anjelly - peting + mag for teacher - anjelly spec hootcake - hootcake spec gelato - gelato add salon - gelato + hootcake = sistart.
Yea madolche easily died to 2 or more negation so going first is better for them but they probably need more support to make the deck basically good in both control and give them more good spell/trap card like promenade
I feel like you misplayed the deck at times but still showcased what Madolche can and can't do, thank you for sharing the knowledge with fellow sweet enjoyers.
i love a more Pure madolche build. M. Nights is a decently high ceiling to resolve off the searches, but my 1st turn boards can often get me at least Promnade and nights together to do my 2 SEARCHABLE negates. one omni and a monster negate. i didnt knew about Gamma Driver, i might want to try it here, cause that play seemed amazing. one garnet aint too bad considering how strong gamma is. about some of the duels, impretty sure everyone already pointed out that MBT extended the plays the wrong way... also wasted NORMAL summons that could had saved his bum against the sword souls, unsure... why he didnt. but its still a good effort. good video.
the actual strat is 3 salon so you can normal summon magilene twice, add petingcesour, and go into traptrix rafflesia to make the rest of your board nibiru proof :3
You don't need to run Raff per se. The actual Salon strat is whatever you want other than zero nowadays, depending on your build. The best method, as David pointed out, is to go Small Combo (Glass, Sistart, Hoot, Salon, Promenade) so you don't even have to worry about Nibiru. ALSO, some of our lists run Nibiru anyways and Crossout exists, but that's not really the point here :3
I remember having a super good back and forth duel with Madolches while I was using Dragonmaids. Lasted like 10 turns and I lost in the end, but it was fun just bc I never dueled Madolches before
Their LV 3s need love. I would love a rank3 madolche monster that helps extend (sending the trap to the grave for example), and a level 3 that can SS from the hand by controlling another madolche monster. Might be interesting to have the rank3 interact with the banished pile in some way, making the deck truly endless, as it aims to be.
@@harryc657 i mean if that existed,Leviair is way better option than your idea for madolche rank 3 since it can recover either Anjelly for madolche plays or handtraps like Ash so you can go needlefibler for more plays as long you don't use pentingcess other effect ss other madolche from your deck I doubt when they release rank 3 madolche,they probably not going to do banish zone and if they do,it instantly not good as Leviair since the card probably lock you to ss 1 madolche from banish zone instead of hand traps which what you use hootcake most of the time since they're mostly useless unless you have teacher to reset it
Tiramisu is one of my favorite deserts, so I know this is going to be a sweet video - Wait, it's about Madolches, not cooking the desert? Still a sweet video!
I love Madolches tbh. It's my only deck on master duel and even without small world I've gotten to platinum. The OTK potential is stupid and because you have called by the grave at 2 it's a little bit better. As long as you don't forgot what prosperity does when faced with that Maxx c challenge you're good lmao. Sucks drawing both hootcakes, messengelatos and/or the puddingcess but besides that they're are a lot of fun.
okay, so why 1 salon? I get that the deck has been "solved" but Madolche can honestly kind of struggle playing through handtraps and interruption. Salon is the best way of playing around that with the double normal summon. And salon can even turn some of your worst hands into at least some sort of interruption by setting promenade from deck.
Salon is about the worst way to play around handtraps behind ctbg, crossout, IF, herald and sauravis. It requires your opponent to play sub optimally and you to have 2 starters + salon which is rather low. Outside of that specific scenario the card does nothing much as its just a search for a card you'd get anyway.
@@DavidGreen-ly5tm Called by is at 1, the deck can't afford to play too many crossout targets, herald isn't always live, and Sauvaris is pretty bad and only protects against 2 handtraps while Salon is always a decent extender, vital in any grind game, and you never mind using your Messengelato searchers on the other targets. I'm always happy seeing Salon in my opening; it's only really bad when you open multiples but that's true with any other card in the game.
@@R3dbul7 the deck can afford to play literally every possible relevant target for crossout except gamma (and even that, only because you never would want to see it). I agree herald and sauravis are not good for interacting with opponents hts (herald is amazing for winning games though) the point is that they are still better than extra salons at doing what you want from salon AND do more when you dont need to extend.
This reminds me of that ProZD video about card game turns that go well. Especially when he keeps talking about desserts going into other desserts against birds going into other birds
I disagree about it being lackluster going second. If your combos go off, you'll have an onmi-negate, a graveyard dusruptor, and a battle immune hoot (if targeted by glass, makes it untouchable by monsters). If you have face up spells, you can recur your monsters and traps for third turn (why he chose to run one promenade and salon is anybody`s guess). This is enough to stop most decks in their tracks. I even stopped META phantom knights with this setup. I like to run a pack of board breakers like Evenly Matched (which is excellent in the TCG right now), kaijus, and DRNMs.
Considering Meta PK setups their board by using Cherubini, that is absolutely not happening under Glassoufle. Effect Veiler cannot stop it, but Glassouffle can.
10:59 really reminds me of the first Madolche TMT in which you performed a similar misplay on Game 2. Had you summoned Magilene first, it would have been C1: Magi C2: Ash C3: Gamma, search Petting, then go Petting Pudding, proccing DPE, removing Pudding, and now you overlay into Glass and spin the DPE. You could have easily won that game, yes, even with the Imperial Order.
Have you stopped including side boards in the games? Otherwise, it seems pretty weird the swordsoul player kept in token collector lol Edit: I guess so looking at the deck list again
last game you could've summoned hoot instead of peting when used gamma to push through your anjelly. Either he pops hoot there or you can continue with combo. If he pops there you can make omega put in more damage then rip with omega. Then you bring him back during standby try to use small world get ordered, enter bp and try to attack over destroyer he pops then you just go main 2 summon jelly into peting and hoot who summons gelato and then search trap. Overlay for teacher and then go to endphase shuffle enforcer and the trap back. then he top decks fusion and the set spell are both dead and you have the trap for taia and follow up.
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I'M COMPLETELY SATISFIED I CAN DIE HAPPY NOW. Honestly without your opponent cheating you had it . Great display of an permanent teir 3 deck.
For the maximus targets, run @Ignister pegasus and omega since it lets u be able to both reset ur grave and u can also go into omega with ur psyframes A dogmatika player just scooped to that in a game i played
Next we need a deck that makes use of Sealmaster Meisei, Talisman of Spell/Trap Sealing and Splendid Venus. Splendid Venus will allow both of the Talismans to be active at the same time while using Sealmaster Meisei as Xyz material to prevent them from destroying themselves. Bonus points for using The Monarchs Erupt by tribute summoning Splendid Venus for a Skill Drain effect on top of it.
that deck profile was awful, madolche does end with a singular negate, but the actual card that matters is glassouffle due to it's second effect which literally nobody on the planet has ever read, the point of going first with madolche is to survive till turn 3 and just otk your opponent from then
I was saying the same thing the entire video. The meta dictates if Madolche is a going first or second deck. Right now its a going first deck focused around glass. Tiara is a end gamer but glass is the decks current boss monster imo.
Enjoye your videos a lot. Recently got back into the game when master duel came out. It’s great to see decks that aren’t just meta…mostly cause everyone can look for it themselves and netdeck it. Specially enjoy watching you banlist tournaments and not sure if ya do normal tournaments but if ya do I woudl watch em. Keep it up and best of luck to you irl.
Been playing madolche for a few years now at least and that little sum up at the video end hits hard. Each win makes it feel like I just had to use every wit in my body to play around negates and each loss feels their cards was just better
Watching you use Anjelly on that match to go into Peting instead of having Magi simply grab her for free without having to use Anjelly would have been full combo. Even if he had DPE pop Puddingcess, you could have still had Glass out and protected yourself for next turn, allowing for a potential win. I say potential because it's still entirely possible that he just waits to pop Chocolat but at least you'd have more opportunities. Imperial Order really screws with our deck though. Absolutely need Tiaramisu or Promenade to get past it. Madolche is one of my favorite decks. Not because it's unstoppable, but because it's always consistently good enough to contend with almost any deck. It's very rare to completely shut down Madolche unless they brick or you just open all negates first turn (Which basically stops any deck). The lack of power is definitely something I've noticed hindering my plays though, so I've opted to adding in one copy of Lesson to give that beefy 800 atk which is usually more than enough to either hit the OTK or give me more of an out against hefty boards. The ability to send any non-madolche monster is nice as well. I just wish Lesson stated that you needed a Madolche card and not a monster for it to work.
It wouldn't have been, because our opponent had Ash. Anjelly was absolutely the better play because we had Gamma in hand and we were able to activate it since Anjelly tributes for cost. Now, it wasn't the PERFECT PLAY: remember the introduction? "A searchable Kaiju is pretty decent as well". We didn't activate Small World at all for some reason. Kaiju the DPE, normal Anjelly, and the game is over. We had game 3 in the bag.
@@TheKABE09 it's not too bad against madolche, you can banish dimension shifter with hootcake to summon petting, then summon either mesengelato for searching or puddingcessour to destroy cards your opponent controls. So basically you play madolche control with promenade and other backrows. Plus if you think about it most of the current meta doesn't do anything under dimension shifter, pk, swordsould etc all basically end their turn after dimension shifter comes out
@@TheKABE09 you do the basic turn 1 combo (hoot with teacher, salon, and prom set) then you endphase drop shifter with empty gy. when it comes back to your turn shifter wont be active anymore
In game 3, mag into peting would’ve won the game. If dpe popped mag the search would still resolve, and if they elected to pop peting instead they could’ve made glass with mag and cess.
Not a big fan of some of the deck choices. Lightning storm feels like a dead card too often when your goal is to have stuff on board all the time. That pot really kills the otk potential of the deck too. You dont need to keep the gy empty all the time. You want to manage the gy so that you end with 1-2 things in there so that you can use promenade or sistart more effectively, while taking advantage of ticket and salon on the enemy turn. You can run a lot more negates too.
I'd drop the Pot (or at least make it 1-2) for more handtraps for the sole reason that Small World exists. Also people forget that most turn 1 players who run negates/disruption play them in Defense Position, which instantly makes Lightning Storm useless in that scenario. Even Droplets is a better response than Lightning Storm, even if I do want at least 1 for trap decks.
This deck is already bad. No Crossout Designator. Salon you should always run at least 2 of if not 3. And 2 Promenade is really good for negating face up cards.
@@geiseric222 I think thats the issue. Madolche is considered a blind second deck but it actually functions better as a going first deck because of how strong glass is in the current meta. Being able to disrupt a players graveyard an on field negate and hand traps go a long way. If you get the normal combo line a hootcake that is unable to be destroyed by battle and card effect allows for a much easier otk on turn 3. People are running the deck like it's still 2014 glass has added a whole new element.
Madolche isn't a blind second deck in the current meta. It USED to be blind second, before Teacher and before the current meta of negates at the end of turn1 Current Madolche can play first or second, and when going second crossout isn't actually that bad because it can banish your own handtrap monsters as well, freeing Peting
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Madolche can actually end T1 with a nibiru-proof board, follow-up, and the negate. By ending on Glassouffle + Salon (searched by a Messengelato mid-combo) + even a potential Sistart, you can go to End Phase, using Glassouffle to spin 1 Madolche into the deck, allowing Salon's effect to trigger and set Promenade, the negate. If your opponent elects to Nibiru as you leave the Main Phase, Glassouffle can protect herself, still allowing Salon to go through.
not really Nibiru proof T1 because you have to use Glassouffle early in the combo just to get a Madolche in grave for the combo. Almost every Madolche card have a hard OPT and that really kills a lot of potential the deck could possibly have
@@NikoNikoAi There are ways to not use Teacher early, but it's annoying to do. You need to find a way to get a Madolche name in the GY and also literally any other monster card, not impossible if you have a hand trap, but, still a bit of a stinker.
Let's say Ash. Normal either Hoot or Anjelly. If Hoot, get Anjelly with it's effect, Jelly into Petting into Pudding. From there go glass, to Choco. Shuffle back Jelly, detach Petting to get Messenger to get Chateau. Chateau to shuffle back the Petting, detach Teacher to get Messenger. Get either ticket or salon, depending on whether or not you already have Promenade and/or another level 4 normal summon. Activate the spell, make Glass.
From there, you can either end to try to bait Nib, or continue to extend. If continuing, activate Glass here and then trigger the effect. If you got ticket, summon any level for not named messenger off of Choco and get Messenger 3 (or the shuffled back Messenger 2) and Search Salon or Promenade. If you have a second field spell, hold off on Choco and search Chateau 2 off of the Ticket summoned Messenger. Make Sistart off of the Messenger and Teacher, then activate the second Chateau, and get Messenger off of Choco and Search again.
Now going back to when you first search a continuous spell: Get Salon, use it and make Glass and try to end turn. If you get to end phase, use Glass to trigger Salon to set Promenade. If they Nib, chain Glass and you get Promenade. If you want to extend, Glass gets Messenger back to hand and Salon sets the second Chateau. Extra Normal Summon Messenger, go into Sistart with Glass and Messenger, activate second Chateau and have Choco grab Messenger to get Promenade.
Technically these specific lines get better if you have a Petting in hand or even more so with Magileine, but if you already have those, you already have better lines available to you than these.
(Note: at the start of this if you start with Anjelly as the normal and a hand trap in grave, you can end with a battle proof Hoot at Sistart's link point).
Note that the ceiling of the deck goes up with 3 Messenger, two Pudding, and an even more optional second Chateau.
I personally like 2 Pudding, 3 Messenger, 2 Chateau, 2 Promenade, and going first.
@@tonberryking42 2 pudding...3 messenger...2 chateau lmao
my dude that is awful lol. why maximize on bricks? also going first you should NEVER be over extending just because you can protect one monster.
your end board t1 should be teacher, hoot, salon with prom set. That is the ideal endboard going first.
Going 1st Madolche is really bad
@@tonberryking42 I see the combo, but I feel like there are some problems. The situation you described feels kinda strange because if you have a monster (hand trap) in grave, that usually means you're going second and your opponent have something on the board, which makes Tiaramissu part of your combos. It works and create lots of advantage, but it feels like a very specific situation, as you either somehow got a monster in the grave turn 1 or wants to OTK your opponent have Nib in hand and a clear field (which is very funny to think that sometimes is harder for us Madolche players to OTK a clear field then a field full of cards).
Also why 2 Pudding? You only really want to summon her with Peting and you can recycle your only one so easily
One build of madolche that was dropped on me at locals was the guy used the extra normal on butlerusk to search secret village of the spellcasters
That's both pure evil and clever as heck.
The real kicker is Mageline can also be used with it.
Yeah I've seen stuff like that. I've seen a Butler into Hidden City. I was like wut...
Magileine pass with no chateau let's go
@@weckar Hidden City is wierd, at least play something based like first turn Golden Eldland fetch Eldrich.
He finally did it, the madman did it. He finally read a madolche card. THE END IS NIGH
But not Pettingcessour's name more closely OMEGALUL
Madolche has managed to be borderline playable in every format since it's introduction. It's like what Glad Beasts used to be.
Far from it. It was unplayable until it got hootcake and still unplayable in full power rulers (along wit just about every deck). It was also unplayable after the master rule change all the way until peting/teacher's release
@@DavidGreen-ly5tm before it had hootcake it had ultimate offering, so it was basically a magilene control deck that would occasionally sack you hard, honestly it was better than gadgets in March of 2013 and had a similar gameplay but because it was way more money it saw way less play
@@coreygolphenee9633 it wasnt better than gadgets as they had multiple 2 card combos that set up a rank 4 and replaced half the combo. Additionally they could make ggx and get the other half to do it again the following turn. They had much better consistency as well. Our 2 main advantages were queen being way better and having palooza. But palooza required you to be up in card advantage. The deck wasnt good until hootcake opened up a bunch of 2 card queen plays.
MBT played Madolche. Satisfied now?
Were you the one who made it happen? I’ve been wanting to comm him on Patreon for a while, but that’s probably not happening for a while, lol
no, he played an awful variant, so no
he did not,he was the one with swordsoul
Yes. Yes I am
Very
Some advice to anyone new to the deck from someone that's basically one tricked this deck since 2020.
Bagooska in the ED is an absolute must - so many decks just don't have a way to deal with it and you will eat a ton of hand traps that stop you.
I'm big on multiple Salon as basically extra copies of Called By - it just ends up being a nice extender that makes the choke points in the deck harder for your opponent. I also don't play Small World which probably serves a similar purpose but I'm not a huge fan of the card in the deck.
Orange Light is also a surprisingly powerful card - combined with the field spell and Glassouffle being able to shuffle back hand traps to your hand, Orange Light + extra fairy represents 2 full negate and pops. Absolutely bonkers
The difference between good Madolche players and bad ones often comes down to how well you use Pudding. She's hard to get into rotation but also, she baits out tons of problematic back row in combat. Often Torrential or Solemn Strike at the wrong time ends your turn, Pudding in control matchups is the difference between winning and losing.
That sad, the deck is in an unfortunate place atm - the deck absolutely cannot play through Droplets. Hilariously, Madolche's only negation works like Veiler so dropleting the card away and hitting glass turns the negate into a 2 for 1 on the other player's side. It's very fun, but also difficult and pretty unforgiving. That said, if you do play the deck, I pray your mailmen stay in the deck and you enjoy it. It's surprisingly interesting and flexible - I've had success with Generaider, Eldlich, Guru and plenty of other fun sub engines.
How exactly does Orange Light work for you to become 2 negates? Isn't your fairy density far too low to have the discard fodder?
@@weckar It's a little high roll sometimes but Chateau allows you to return any monster shuffled back to the hand. That includes Orange Lights. If you discard a madolche fairy and Herald, Glass sees the Madolche go to the GY, allowing you to shuffle both back to hand. Prosperity really brings it together - digging 6 cards after doing a combo and thinning a ton of Madolche cards out of deck usually gets the other half of whatever silver bullet you put in to help the deck.
The fairy count is a little low but the basic combo gets them into rotation and Promenade/Glass will get them into your hand.
@@weckar orange light drop fairy, proc glass to bounce back your orange light
But orange light does not work well with pettingcesceur. You can play it but I decided against it. You can also spin veiler and ash back into your hand when chateau is on the field. And with veiler and ash there is only one monster in the grave which you could banish with hootcake and then special the petting.
Considering most players do not play Traps that isn't Imperm, you could resolve Promenade that way
9:19 this is what I love about Madolche. Every single time you do this, it sends satisfaction flowing through your veins.
Madolche is literally my favourite deck and big papi Joe is my favourite yugituber but I’ve gotta say… this made me wanna enter the scoop phase of life. I will literally teach everyone to play madolche if it means no one ever plays one copy of salon again.
Salon should be played at 3
I would actually like to redact my previous comment, whilst I do stand by what I said, I feel guilty for accosting big papi Joe in his own comment section. I apologise wholeheartedly. I guess the truth is that this anger stems from a deeper well of unresolved pain caused by Leah whiffing on the mind meld ban of exciton knight in playoffs, epic Le cringe moment.
@@Jearil 2 is fine actually, 1 is just sad.
Yeah the 1 salon is really bad. Also, I know some people like it, but small world is a terrible card in madolche.
I would like it to be known that the Small World in game 3 would have searched a Kumongous to get rid of the DPE and win the game... if it wasn't for the Imperial Order.
That was probably the likely target.
@@NickWuebker Well they were the person who played it
I knew mbt didn't actually play madolche. It was you
When the order is imperial
When you have Mag + Anjelly it's often best to normal mag to search peting and use her effect, giving you an extra monster to play with and not leaving your grave filled with a useless anjelly if it gets ash'd.
He started talking about how it's a going 2nd deck and I realized that TMTs are really entertaining as long as it isn't a deck you, the viewer, know how to play.
I love how candid Joseph is about "I'm doing this because I was literally paid to"
i think that madolche going first with gozen, herald and dimension shifter is much better then this list. Going second the deck does not have enough to offer, but if you go first you have a negate with promenade, protection for the madolche spells/traps with sistart and a "towers" with glassoufler.
You can end on Teacher (as your 5th summon) + promenade with either anjelly, peting or mag.
Normal Anjelly - Spec peting - Spec hootcake - hootcake specgelato - add salon - gelato + peting = Teacher. Then, to play around nibiru, you save teachers effect until EP to trigger Salon and set promenade in EP. The other lines are:
Spec peting - spec anjelly - anjelly spec hootcake - hootcake spec gelato - add salon - make teacher.
Normal Mag - add peting - spec peting - spec anjelly - peting + mag for teacher - anjelly spec hootcake - hootcake spec gelato - gelato add salon - gelato + hootcake = sistart.
My favorite deck
Can't wait to judge MBT on his plays
nice pfp
I love how you can tell that MBT didn't actually play the Madolche deck in any of the games.
I’ve never clicked on a video so fast
I was watching these duels live. It was quite a treat to see funny dialouge behind the scenes.
Madolches ability to main d shifter did a lot for it. Someone at my locals had a lot of success with the deck last year
10:00 if he summuned teacher instead of tiramisu he might had a change cause the dpe will get destroyed and he can shuffle it to the extra
really weird to make Tiaramisu there too - I don't think it was even live to force the DPE?
honestly going first madolche is the better build right now even if going second feels more natural
Agreed
Yea madolche easily died to 2 or more negation so going first is better for them but they probably need more support to make the deck basically good in both control and give them more good spell/trap card like promenade
I feel like you misplayed the deck at times but still showcased what Madolche can and can't do, thank you for sharing the knowledge with fellow sweet enjoyers.
i love a more Pure madolche build.
M. Nights is a decently high ceiling to resolve off the searches, but my 1st turn boards can often get me at least Promnade and nights together to do my 2 SEARCHABLE negates.
one omni and a monster negate.
i didnt knew about Gamma Driver, i might want to try it here, cause that play seemed amazing.
one garnet aint too bad considering how strong gamma is.
about some of the duels, impretty sure everyone already pointed out that MBT extended the plays the wrong way...
also wasted NORMAL summons that could had saved his bum against the sword souls, unsure... why he didnt.
but its still a good effort.
good video.
He is right about one thing: it is difficult to master. If you just look at the combo you'd go "oooh blind second" when it's not.
the actual strat is 3 salon so you can normal summon magilene twice, add petingcesour, and go into traptrix rafflesia to make the rest of your board nibiru proof :3
Or just dont play into nibiru and cut 3 suboptimal cards from your list
You don't need to run Raff per se.
The actual Salon strat is whatever you want other than zero nowadays, depending on your build.
The best method, as David pointed out, is to go Small Combo (Glass, Sistart, Hoot, Salon, Promenade) so you don't even have to worry about Nibiru.
ALSO, some of our lists run Nibiru anyways and Crossout exists, but that's not really the point here :3
@@Ungragu yea but i like raff tho
@@DavidGreen-ly5tm cowardice will not reward you on the jelly battlefields
@@AliceCWillow what? In no war ever was improved tactics dismissed as cowardice. At least not by the winning side :)
dimension shifter can not only be used, but recycled and reused in the deck keeping the grave empty.
i thought D.D. Crow was going to cause problems. but Pot of Prosperity was a much bigger problem
MBT a vinesauce fan? I hear speeeen and my brainwaves all activate at once
I remember having a super good back and forth duel with Madolches while I was using Dragonmaids. Lasted like 10 turns and I lost in the end, but it was fun just bc I never dueled Madolches before
Well, madolche still is madolche. Concidering how long it's been since their last support, there should be something new this year
I hope so: just give me an archetype handtrap and I'll be happy.
Their LV 3s need love. I would love a rank3 madolche monster that helps extend (sending the trap to the grave for example), and a level 3 that can SS from the hand by controlling another madolche monster. Might be interesting to have the rank3 interact with the banished pile in some way, making the deck truly endless, as it aims to be.
@@harryc657 i mean if that existed,Leviair is way better option than your idea for madolche rank 3 since it can recover either Anjelly for madolche plays or handtraps like Ash so you can go needlefibler for more plays as long you don't use pentingcess other effect ss other madolche from your deck
I doubt when they release rank 3 madolche,they probably not going to do banish zone and if they do,it instantly not good as Leviair since the card probably lock you to ss 1 madolche from banish zone instead of hand traps which what you use hootcake most of the time since they're mostly useless unless you have teacher to reset it
And so, it became true. Vernusylph Madolche is a thing now
Tiramisu is one of my favorite deserts, so I know this is going to be a sweet video -
Wait, it's about Madolches, not cooking the desert?
Still a sweet video!
I love Madolches tbh. It's my only deck on master duel and even without small world I've gotten to platinum. The OTK potential is stupid and because you have called by the grave at 2 it's a little bit better. As long as you don't forgot what prosperity does when faced with that Maxx c challenge you're good lmao. Sucks drawing both hootcakes, messengelatos and/or the puddingcess but besides that they're are a lot of fun.
11:37 I love how MBT is trying to send himself to hell.
okay, so why 1 salon? I get that the deck has been "solved" but Madolche can honestly kind of struggle playing through handtraps and interruption. Salon is the best way of playing around that with the double normal summon. And salon can even turn some of your worst hands into at least some sort of interruption by setting promenade from deck.
Simple, he is wrong.
Madolche plays Salon at 3 copies, if you find yourself overly stuffed you can maybe go down to 2 but Never to 1.
Salon is about the worst way to play around handtraps behind ctbg, crossout, IF, herald and sauravis. It requires your opponent to play sub optimally and you to have 2 starters + salon which is rather low. Outside of that specific scenario the card does nothing much as its just a search for a card you'd get anyway.
@@DavidGreen-ly5tm Called by is at 1, the deck can't afford to play too many crossout targets, herald isn't always live, and Sauvaris is pretty bad and only protects against 2 handtraps while Salon is always a decent extender, vital in any grind game, and you never mind using your Messengelato searchers on the other targets. I'm always happy seeing Salon in my opening; it's only really bad when you open multiples but that's true with any other card in the game.
@@R3dbul7 the deck can afford to play literally every possible relevant target for crossout except gamma (and even that, only because you never would want to see it). I agree herald and sauravis are not good for interacting with opponents hts (herald is amazing for winning games though) the point is that they are still better than extra salons at doing what you want from salon AND do more when you dont need to extend.
This reminds me of that ProZD video about card game turns that go well. Especially when he keeps talking about desserts going into other desserts against birds going into other birds
I disagree about it being lackluster going second. If your combos go off, you'll have an onmi-negate, a graveyard dusruptor, and a battle immune hoot (if targeted by glass, makes it untouchable by monsters). If you have face up spells, you can recur your monsters and traps for third turn (why he chose to run one promenade and salon is anybody`s guess). This is enough to stop most decks in their tracks. I even stopped META phantom knights with this setup.
I like to run a pack of board breakers like Evenly Matched (which is excellent in the TCG right now), kaijus, and DRNMs.
Considering Meta PK setups their board by using Cherubini, that is absolutely not happening under Glassoufle. Effect Veiler cannot stop it, but Glassouffle can.
Lightning storm into set 4 is just the stones. You’re too good 05:00 😂
10:59 really reminds me of the first Madolche TMT in which you performed a similar misplay on Game 2. Had you summoned Magilene first, it would have been C1: Magi C2: Ash C3: Gamma, search Petting, then go Petting Pudding, proccing DPE, removing Pudding, and now you overlay into Glass and spin the DPE.
You could have easily won that game, yes, even with the Imperial Order.
You cant gamma ash if magi is on field.
and now I'm thoroughly reminded why I don't play Gamma... sigh.
i love this deck's concept and i've played it online, but i seriously want to buy this for in person because it's such a cute deck
I bought it when it was expensive.
@@weckar i traded my mermail-atlantean deck for a madolche deck when mermails were still meta. still have my madolche deck to this day
It's amazing. Get it
Did not expect a reference to a certain italian streamer/pizza reviewer in M-binty's channel.
Have you stopped including side boards in the games? Otherwise, it seems pretty weird the swordsoul player kept in token collector lol
Edit: I guess so looking at the deck list again
When will a Marincess Ten-minute testing arrive? Since they have new support comming and have A LOT of sinregy with the Adventurer engine.
How? The token is earth and you can only summon water monsters. Swordsoul matches up better.
@@xatuyou8045 and you havent read a singl brave card, glue eater?
I have to admit, I do call the dessert tiramisu "Tiaramisu" just out of habit of so many years playing the deck
He finally did it.
Never thought I'd say this again.
*"When the Order is Imperial"*
MBT plays Madolche: The Gozen Match is gonna be a HUGE problem for us.
Meta: Swordsoul, adventure everything and lunalight.
MBT: I think I’ll play madolche
last game you could've summoned hoot instead of peting when used gamma to push through your anjelly. Either he pops hoot there or you can continue with combo. If he pops there you can make omega put in more damage then rip with omega. Then you bring him back during standby try to use small world get ordered, enter bp and try to attack over destroyer he pops then you just go main 2 summon jelly into peting and hoot who summons gelato and then search trap. Overlay for teacher and then go to endphase shuffle enforcer and the trap back. then he top decks fusion and the set spell are both dead and you have the trap for taia and follow up.
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
I'M COMPLETELY SATISFIED I CAN DIE HAPPY NOW.
Honestly without your opponent cheating you had it . Great display of an permanent teir 3 deck.
For the maximus targets, run @Ignister pegasus and omega since it lets u be able to both reset ur grave and u can also go into omega with ur psyframes
A dogmatika player just scooped to that in a game i played
Every name in this arquetipe is a delight
I feel that topdeck, once played against a friend who made a full utopia-zexal board first Turn, just for me to topdeck superpoly
That intro skit made me laugh far more then it should have.... xD
Aaaah, cakes. Who doesn't love cakes? I mean, there's a reason why it's my favorite deck.
Next we need a deck that makes use of Sealmaster Meisei, Talisman of Spell/Trap Sealing and Splendid Venus. Splendid Venus will allow both of the Talismans to be active at the same time while using Sealmaster Meisei as Xyz material to prevent them from destroying themselves. Bonus points for using The Monarchs Erupt by tribute summoning Splendid Venus for a Skill Drain effect on top of it.
now all we need is mbt to flounder a bit with predaplant and i will be perfectly entertained
that deck profile was awful, madolche does end with a singular negate, but the actual card that matters is glassouffle due to it's second effect which literally nobody on the planet has ever read, the point of going first with madolche is to survive till turn 3 and just otk your opponent from then
I was saying the same thing the entire video. The meta dictates if Madolche is a going first or second deck. Right now its a going first deck focused around glass. Tiara is a end gamer but glass is the decks current boss monster imo.
@@radyish5840 yeah glass literally does everything for the deck
Enjoye your videos a lot. Recently got back into the game when master duel came out. It’s great to see decks that aren’t just meta…mostly cause everyone can look for it themselves and netdeck it. Specially enjoy watching you banlist tournaments and not sure if ya do normal tournaments but if ya do I woudl watch em. Keep it up and best of luck to you irl.
Check out the Chalislime Monthly for MBT-hosted tournaments
If there's one thing I never expected to see in an MBT video, it's a Vinesauce reference.
The madman! My favourite deck he’s done it!
Deck could use a rank 3 xyz and a spell card to search your madolche monsters.
The point about not being able to end on any first turn negates isnt even remotely true
10:45 beautiful lithium reference
not the list i would have run with, but... it's okay. you NEED more than one Salon though. Like, three is bulky, yes- but two is really necessary
Based on what?
@@DavidGreen-ly5tm based on the countless hours I’ve spent playing the deck?
@@lylam84936 ah ok. Pretty sure stats and theory are more relevant.
@@DavidGreen-ly5tm the stats and theory says 2-3 salon is mandatory
Been playing madolche for a few years now at least and that little sum up at the video end hits hard. Each win makes it feel like I just had to use every wit in my body to play around negates and each loss feels their cards was just better
same, we must be geniuses lol
Oh the Cimooo Patreon payer can finally stop begging
Teacher and tiramisu is a big counter vs eldlich, sky striker etc. Which is why I love the deck.
been a while since I saw pankratops in a decklist. thanks for reminding me he exists. I like pankratops
god damn MBT when did you record this ? cause Feb7th list was out in edo pro like feb 2nd or 3rd. if you missed it thats yer fault
why did we go back to no side for the best of three?
FINALLY THE TIME HAS COME
I love this deck. Thanks for this testing.
Man-geline? MAN-GELINE??!!
JOSEPH I AM GOING TO BECOME THE JOKER PLEASE
_WHEN THE ORDER IS IMPERIAL_
Ah the deck with SO much grind you would think it worked for Hooters. A food themed hooters
Is that a deck name typo I see during the profile?
Watching you use Anjelly on that match to go into Peting instead of having Magi simply grab her for free without having to use Anjelly would have been full combo. Even if he had DPE pop Puddingcess, you could have still had Glass out and protected yourself for next turn, allowing for a potential win. I say potential because it's still entirely possible that he just waits to pop Chocolat but at least you'd have more opportunities. Imperial Order really screws with our deck though. Absolutely need Tiaramisu or Promenade to get past it.
Madolche is one of my favorite decks. Not because it's unstoppable, but because it's always consistently good enough to contend with almost any deck. It's very rare to completely shut down Madolche unless they brick or you just open all negates first turn (Which basically stops any deck). The lack of power is definitely something I've noticed hindering my plays though, so I've opted to adding in one copy of Lesson to give that beefy 800 atk which is usually more than enough to either hit the OTK or give me more of an out against hefty boards. The ability to send any non-madolche monster is nice as well. I just wish Lesson stated that you needed a Madolche card and not a monster for it to work.
It wouldn't have been, because our opponent had Ash. Anjelly was absolutely the better play because we had Gamma in hand and we were able to activate it since Anjelly tributes for cost. Now, it wasn't the PERFECT PLAY: remember the introduction? "A searchable Kaiju is pretty decent as well". We didn't activate Small World at all for some reason. Kaiju the DPE, normal Anjelly, and the game is over. We had game 3 in the bag.
Those intros are gold
I did not think you’d be willing to play Madolche after that 7-hour Playoffs episode with them.
tbf that wasnt constructed Madolche
that was limited Madolche without their board cleaners that let them do more than stare at the opponent
Dude, you HAVE to play dimension shifter in this deck, it's the perfect counter vs the current meta
It also counters Madolche in itself lmao
@@TheKABE09 it's not too bad against madolche, you can banish dimension shifter with hootcake to summon petting, then summon either mesengelato for searching or puddingcessour to destroy cards your opponent controls. So basically you play madolche control with promenade and other backrows. Plus if you think about it most of the current meta doesn't do anything under dimension shifter, pk, swordsould etc all basically end their turn after dimension shifter comes out
@@TheKABE09 you do the basic turn 1 combo (hoot with teacher, salon, and prom set) then you endphase drop shifter with empty gy. when it comes back to your turn shifter wont be active anymore
@@vehicledestroyer agreed, considering Madolche is one of the very few decks that can even afford to run Shifter, we abuse it.
@@vehicledestroyer You usually want a monster in gy for pronenade
I want MBT's shirt. Where do I get it?
In game 3, mag into peting would’ve won the game. If dpe popped mag the search would still resolve, and if they elected to pop peting instead they could’ve made glass with mag and cess.
Not a big fan of some of the deck choices. Lightning storm feels like a dead card too often when your goal is to have stuff on board all the time. That pot really kills the otk potential of the deck too.
You dont need to keep the gy empty all the time. You want to manage the gy so that you end with 1-2 things in there so that you can use promenade or sistart more effectively, while taking advantage of ticket and salon on the enemy turn. You can run a lot more negates too.
It’s an otk deck you should win before having a second turn for Storm to be dead
I dont count on that being the case all the time. I prefer to run more negates and twin twister, since they are live for more cases
@@ruin6702 but this is a blind second deck. You break your opponents board or you lose
I'd drop the Pot (or at least make it 1-2) for more handtraps for the sole reason that Small World exists. Also people forget that most turn 1 players who run negates/disruption play them in Defense Position, which instantly makes Lightning Storm useless in that scenario. Even Droplets is a better response than Lightning Storm, even if I do want at least 1 for trap decks.
still waiting on that updated utopia testing em bee tee
In the way he says tiaramisu, I accidently spell nightmare as “knightmare” when I’m texting people.
This deck is already bad. No Crossout Designator. Salon you should always run at least 2 of if not 3. And 2 Promenade is really good for negating face up cards.
Cross out in a blind second deck is a horrible choice
@@geiseric222 I think thats the issue. Madolche is considered a blind second deck but it actually functions better as a going first deck because of how strong glass is in the current meta. Being able to disrupt a players graveyard an on field negate and hand traps go a long way. If you get the normal combo line a hootcake that is unable to be destroyed by battle and card effect allows for a much easier otk on turn 3. People are running the deck like it's still 2014 glass has added a whole new element.
Madolche isn't a blind second deck in the current meta. It USED to be blind second, before Teacher and before the current meta of negates at the end of turn1
Current Madolche can play first or second, and when going second crossout isn't actually that bad because it can banish your own handtrap monsters as well, freeing Peting
Just got to plat with this deck. Tons of fun to both otk and figure out what you can throw together if it doesn’t pan out
Was that a vinesauce SPEEN at the start?
can not believe youve done this
Why is the Opponent called MBT everytime?
So what's the whale requirement for "MBT and Nyhmnim’s One Boxer Brief Fueled Night of Passion"
SWEET!
I like Madolche. The madolche they played in Playoffs is not the version of the deck I've played at all.
MBT played Madolce, yes. Totally. In all of these games. Yea.
Wow. How many months was that guy subbed for to get MBT to play Madolche. Soon we'll have MBT sniff ash Blossom's toes😂😂😂
I think I subbed in October or November.
Where did side decks go?
One promenade? Gotta love it
i just baked brownies this morning what the hell
THE shortest tmt season 2 episode yet
just out of curiosity does anyone have a good madolche list for master duel ? :)
Madolche players be like:
Then i shuffeld his cards back in the deck
Saving it for later, looks like a fun deck