Yale Students Aren’t Surprised About The College Admissions Scandal

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  • @VICENews
    @VICENews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2436

    "I think there is a moral difference between perhaps donations versus bribery... the school benefits and for other kids tuition and it might pay for new programs or something that can benefit people. Bribery doesn't go to the school."
    WATCH NEXT: How Broken The College Admissions Process Is - bit.ly/2JIUKko

    • @handyman8764
      @handyman8764 5 ปีที่แล้ว +191

      I see that you include no Asian Americans in your conversation. It is typical behavior to exclude Asians. And yet, they are the group that got in on merit, after climbing over the highest hurdle.

    • @dub2459
      @dub2459 5 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      Donations are the same damn thing as bribery,just because you bought a new gym doesn't mean your spoiled brat should get in.

    • @alfreddozier832
      @alfreddozier832 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@handyman8764 or maybe no Asians wanted to do it?

    • @ADVGamingSPARTA
      @ADVGamingSPARTA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      @@handyman8764 just because one video doesn't include Asian Americans doesn't mean Vice is systematically discriminating or excluding Asians from their videos. Please use Logic. I do agree however with the last statement, but that's still a generalization.

    • @WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs
      @WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@handyman8764If it weren't for "Affirmative Action" many if not most these White kids would likely have gotten in on their own. That's the bigger scandal. The East Asians are shafted even more.

  • @King_Of_Games
    @King_Of_Games 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13808

    Straight up dude said he has advantages. Moral or not he has something others don’t. And that’s not always fair.
    He gets it

    • @positivevibesonlysorry9606
      @positivevibesonlysorry9606 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ccv

    • @gggamer2738
      @gggamer2738 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Basically Life in general
      It's not fair people wake up!!

    • @guidad542
      @guidad542 5 ปีที่แล้ว +222

      This goes for many things. Different people have advantages on different aspects of life. I bet everyone complaining would be the first to claim his priveledges while denying the same priveledges and thanking their success to "hard work"
      This dude seems pretty honest about this and I respect him a lot more than the whiners.

    • @brittanybonnie1478
      @brittanybonnie1478 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      so true

    • @davethedave4060
      @davethedave4060 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Harvard has been shamed by being tricked into hiring a fake Indian and also someone to teach The Constitution who has obviously never even read The Constitution. Ivy league schools are a joke they turn out grads like the Bushes, the Obamas, the Clintons, Al Gore All bought degrees, except the Obamas theirs were affirmative action, no child left behind.. Everyone knows none of those could pass a GED.

  • @malkalevanna1071
    @malkalevanna1071 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8319

    The whole legacy thing is insane
    Just because your sibling/ relative was smart enough to get into Yale, does not mean that you are.

    • @rokuwhitefox
      @rokuwhitefox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +389

      Seriously. Your legacy family member could be a complete dumbass. Legacy =/= qualified for admission to college. Although the integrity of a "prestigious" university is meaningless anymore in light of this.

    • @ammaar339
      @ammaar339 5 ปีที่แล้ว +303

      No the legacy thing is only used because it shows that the student may be more likely to attend that supposed school. It just so happens to be that the legacy and their children/brother/sister/cousins are also extremely smart too. They dont solely base your acceptance off a legacy status, however, it definitely helps.

    • @pcharl01
      @pcharl01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Well, if that sibling/family contributes money into Yale, does it really matter if you are smart enough?

    • @jchen8902
      @jchen8902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      I know. It's incredibly unfair. For me personally, I had to score incredibly high to get into a good school on scholarship, and about half of my classmates barely did better than average but got in because they were lucky enough to be rich or have a relative in school.

    • @yunianiceto9805
      @yunianiceto9805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Those schools want to maintain their culture as time goes by. Being a legacy means that you grew up raised / surrounded by a person who more often than not, has been an influence to you, or has shared those main core values with you, in comparison to someone who is not a legacy and has no ties to the school. Highly selective school’s will always have a soft spot for their alumni.

  • @ABBAyaga
    @ABBAyaga 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15130

    you can tell the kid with the glasses has no time for the other rich kids. lololololol.

    • @s.n.2744
      @s.n.2744 5 ปีที่แล้ว +786

      Ashley Prather he's like CUT THE SHIT!!!!!!!! He has no time PERIODT

    • @augustusfacon2545
      @augustusfacon2545 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1137

      his face is a disapproval of those elitist ignorant students

    • @anthonythe5336
      @anthonythe5336 5 ปีที่แล้ว +513

      That dude is pretty famous he did debate

    • @brittanybonnie1478
      @brittanybonnie1478 5 ปีที่แล้ว +394

      he gives me sheldon vibes

    • @brittanybonnie1478
      @brittanybonnie1478 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@anthonythe5336 i def could see him doing that he seems awesome

  • @olivertaylor7434
    @olivertaylor7434 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7540

    lol girl with glasses had to go to Yale to realise how rich she was

    • @rokuwhitefox
      @rokuwhitefox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      I know, right??? Wow.

    • @Caysum21345
      @Caysum21345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +235

      Right? What a moron

    • @lit721
      @lit721 5 ปีที่แล้ว +190

      Pigsy Walcott Lmfao right. as if Yale even has socioeconomic diversity. pathetic like other top colleges, all a playground for the top 20%

    • @w.5655
      @w.5655 5 ปีที่แล้ว +617

      But if your surrounded by people as rich or richer than you your entire life, you wouldn’t realise that what you have isn’t the norm. But it is a little weird

    • @SS-hw1ou
      @SS-hw1ou 5 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      She is an Indian and show off is their hobby.

  • @CineNOV579
    @CineNOV579 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2563

    I love how we're just referring to him as the Glasses Guy

    • @Syeda237
      @Syeda237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here is your first comment

    • @lovelypanda1226
      @lovelypanda1226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His name is Will arnesen

  • @akira9450
    @akira9450 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7099

    bro isn't that glassed kid like the king of debate. He's also dropping nothing but facts

    • @DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants
      @DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants 5 ปีที่แล้ว +437

      For being a white rich kid he has a lot of common sense.

    • @IhaveBigFeet
      @IhaveBigFeet 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Dan Raiders Warriors Sharks Giants So you’re saying a poor black kid has more sense than him? LMAO

    • @DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants
      @DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants 5 ปีที่แล้ว +256

      @@IhaveBigFeet I was implying rich white kids lack common sense.Whatever color you are and whatever income you are/were you clearly lack it.

    • @IhaveBigFeet
      @IhaveBigFeet 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Dan Raiders Warriors Sharks Giants So all rich white kids lack common sense? Lol stay poor idiot

    • @bouchranaciri7747
      @bouchranaciri7747 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Scrotum Deleter he didn’t say all so are you applying it ?

  • @nursinggirl-lv4zx
    @nursinggirl-lv4zx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9421

    “your house costs more than my family has ever collectively had... ever” my broke ass felt this one 😂😂😂

    • @AyubuKK
      @AyubuKK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      nursinggirl 1219 😂

    • @chasitywillis9591
      @chasitywillis9591 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      nursinggirl 1219 bro exactly

    • @Aaron565
      @Aaron565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      thats a realization that fraud had to be involved at some point for such a difference to have amassed.

    • @SkyyPiano
      @SkyyPiano 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      She said she looks up the cost of the house of her friends' parents. Who the hell does that? Sounds like she has a chip on her shoulder about money.

    • @nocap7885
      @nocap7885 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @Abitamim Bharmal
      >hurr durr start a business
      She is literally complaining about rich people BRIBING college officials to get their undeserving kids an education. You want her to get rich so she lobbies her own undeserving kids as well? Wealth gaps aren't necessarily bad, but when they get this large, and the rich can screw over regular people in every aspect of society there is an undeniable problem. Not everyone wants to be a CEO or start a business, some people want to be teachers, journalists, or a paramedics, all jobs that are crucial to our society but are underpaid. Do these people's kids not deserve a fair chance at a higher education? Should everyone just start a business?

  • @marlenamontano5295
    @marlenamontano5295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9078

    “Both are unfair to people that don’t have those resources” YES 👏🏼 my 👏🏼 king

    • @PradaG43
      @PradaG43 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Marlena Montano lmao

    • @KevinCummingsFitness
      @KevinCummingsFitness 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes

    • @TheGamer583
      @TheGamer583 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I can consider it unfair to have anything when there are people that do not have that thing.

    • @Scarsofevil
      @Scarsofevil 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      He's right, but we live in a system that promotes that. This world is unfair. I'm won't be upset at the kid who grew up with privileges because kudos to whatever their parents did that got them there. Also that kid took advantage of the resources and worked hard on his own merit. The money from the donation will also help so many more students. As for the kid who got there because their parents cheated and bribed, the kid probably didn't take advantage of their rich resources when they were young and couldn't have gotten in even with legacy status. The bribe money only benefited the individual who took the bribe, and their parents defrauded taxpayers, by claiming charitable contributions. Essentially, the taxpayers paid for their kids to take a spot from another kid who deserved to get in.

    • @Doors067
      @Doors067 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      (;

  • @blackenedblue5401
    @blackenedblue5401 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3286

    interview: What does this all mean?
    Glasses Kid: "It ain't meritocratic. I think it suggests we should be more cognizant about where we're pulling our talent pool from. Because just because it says Yale on your degree, how much does that mean? IDK, maybe less than you think?"

    • @hayderimran7
      @hayderimran7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +193

      *drops mic

    • @kaiasmith5404
      @kaiasmith5404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +347

      I gasped when he said that, it was too good. Yeah he definitely seems smart enough to desirve to be there

    • @nichimgomez4112
      @nichimgomez4112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Thank you for the transcription my english is not so good, and I was having problems understanding.

    • @soulscanner66
      @soulscanner66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@kaiasmith5404 He's also smart enough to keep it short and pithy.

    • @NickyM_0
      @NickyM_0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@kaiasmith5404 What he said wasn't rocket science🙄 ..... calm down, jeez! You are easily impressed. How old are you, 12?!

  • @danielmitchell9438
    @danielmitchell9438 4 ปีที่แล้ว +728

    "It ain't meritocratic. I think [the college admissions scandal] should make us more cognizant of where we're drawing our talent pool from. Just because it says 'Yale' on your degree, how much does that mean? I don't know. Maybe less than you think." glasses dropping BOMBS.

    • @jusletursoulglobaby
      @jusletursoulglobaby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      it means what it has always meant. Yale means you have network (or access to a network) that opposing graduates do/did not.

  • @lerinnenatalia
    @lerinnenatalia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2511

    Slam dunk at the end. With all the people buying and donating their way in, actual merit is really not that important. So how valuable is a degree from a top tier school where merit isint valued? "Maybe Less then you think."

    • @statisticalcomputing
      @statisticalcomputing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      don't forget affirmative action too

    • @kansasthunderman1
      @kansasthunderman1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@statisticalcomputing You got that right. There are "minority" students getting diplomas that aren't worth toilet paper.

    • @alextheskaterdude07
      @alextheskaterdude07 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      alextheskaterdude07
      -Al Gore sent 4 kids to Harvard.
      -NYC Mayor Bill DeBlasio sent his son to Yale
      -Obama sent one of his to Harvard
      -Andrew Cuomo, New York’s governor sent one kid to Harvard and the rest to Brown.
      -Richard Bloomenthal sent a kid to Harvard
      -Chuck Schumer sent 2 kids to Harvard
      -Eliot Spitzer sent a kid to Harvard
      -Bob Menéndez sent a kid to Harvard
      -Chelsea Clinton breezed into Stanford
      -3 different senate members sent kids to Yale
      Something tells me they didn’t get in based off of merit. Just a hunch!
      m.th-cam.com/video/fhHH1AJtZ3Y/w-d-xo.html

    • @callumdarby8801
      @callumdarby8801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@alextheskaterdude07 that's right. It's only prominent democrats who rig the system. open your eyes man. this isn't about R vs. D. It's the super wealthy vs. everyone else. class division is their goal and your'e lapping it right up.

    • @adamoleoni2272
      @adamoleoni2272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I may be wrong but trump went to harvard. If harvard is so bad, it explains a lot of shit.

  • @markcarel5606
    @markcarel5606 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8940

    the guy in glasses just proved he deserve his spot at yale 😎.

    • @luciacortez4620
      @luciacortez4620 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Yes !!!

    • @bensonfang1868
      @bensonfang1868 5 ปีที่แล้ว +211

      he's one of the best debaters of all time

    • @anthonythe5336
      @anthonythe5336 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Benson Fang lol yea pf kinda bad tho but he respectable

    • @anthonythe5336
      @anthonythe5336 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I saw the glasses kid last weekend

    • @Ilena_a
      @Ilena_a 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Benson Fang what’s his name

  • @coldsteel86
    @coldsteel86 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5555

    Only one rich kid got it.

    • @mountplusBladeequals
      @mountplusBladeequals 5 ปีที่แล้ว +500

      That much is undeniable.
      If it makes you feel any better, his father is a noted history professor history and his mother works for NIH, so his family is lower-upper or upper-middle class. That's probably why he's so much more in touch than the average panelist.

    • @Starscream_313
      @Starscream_313 5 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      What about Students who committed suicide cuz they didn't get in????
      If only they knew it was rigged .....

    • @torrijosisnice5750
      @torrijosisnice5750 5 ปีที่แล้ว +328

      I feel the guy working in the school paper dropped quite a bomb too...
      To get to work in those kind of projects you either have the means or your struggle towards failure.
      Meaning most journalist, coming out of big schools, will probably present a bias towards ultra capitalistic and classist thoughts associated with upper middle to high class.
      Also probably used to network and tit for tat, etc. Maybe a good point to analyse why modern journalist so often miss the big picture? They only ever understand a tiny sliver of the world.

    • @stonecake313
      @stonecake313 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Akshay Ash your life shouldn’t be attached to getting in to a specific school, those students clearly had their own issue

    • @SirPhysics
      @SirPhysics 5 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      @@stonecake313 It absolutely shouldn't be, but as a former high school teacher the amount of pressure put on kids not just to go to college but to go to a "good" college is absurd and tremendously unhealthy. Sure some individuals are more susceptible to that than others, but it's definitely a cultural issue we need to deal with.

  • @christinejohnson2344
    @christinejohnson2344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +959

    Glasses guy is probably the smartest of the group. Not only is he book smart, but he's aware of how society operates, his privilege, and how that not only benefits him but disadvantages others. Although he cannot relate, he is empathetic and humble. That's what earns you genuine respect. The others seemed resistant/hesitant to acknowledge not only their wealth/privilege but also the more disadvantaged communities. There's nothing wrong with having wealthy parents or being wealthy, but to be willfully ignorant about it is iffy.

    • @aqilnaeem3570
      @aqilnaeem3570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      He was the best debater in HS of all time

    • @overdrive7349
      @overdrive7349 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, I'm not going to NOT use my advantages because it makes other people upset. Life is unfair, get over it. Instead of blaming people for your disadvantages, try doing something to make your life better.

    • @pigeon2605
      @pigeon2605 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@overdrive7349 Why do you sound pressed

    • @overdrive7349
      @overdrive7349 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pigeon2605 is that the new trending short word for depressed now?

    • @pigeon2605
      @pigeon2605 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@overdrive7349 Nah, it's another word for annoyed or pissed off

  • @MakeJerold
    @MakeJerold 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1456

    LMAO that one rich kid "I was never really exposed to other wealth classes before going to yale" buddy, you're going to one of the most prestigious ivy leagues in the country, you still have NO IDEA what it's like to be broke.

    • @NatGarcia-hj8pq
      @NatGarcia-hj8pq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      he nver said he knew what it was like to be broke, just that hem had never even come across with people on a different tax bracket

    • @thezu9250
      @thezu9250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@arp2178 Exposure teaches you thinks. Humans are blessed with empathy so you dont need to suffer to understand someone’s suffering on some level. But if youre not exposed, your brain doesn’t get that perspective.

    • @josephdahdouh2725
      @josephdahdouh2725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@NatGarcia-hj8pq You know that the poor are taxed the most right? The top 1percent are taxed the least that's how America's system work

    • @h.cheema7818
      @h.cheema7818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@josephdahdouh2725 You do realize that a rich person would pay a couple hundred thousand while the less wealthy would pay a couple hundred or a few thousand. Who is helping their country more?

    • @josephdahdouh2725
      @josephdahdouh2725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@h.cheema7818 What I'm saying is that the rich exploit the poor, and their salery increases, they become rich and richer while the poor combat taxes and will on both cases not contribute as much as the rich to their community because they are just financially incapable. By letting the poor pay little less taxes and the rich much more taxes(maybe just maybe will the poor be able to stabilize and adapt into your horrible ideology, when they do stabilize than they can and are capable of providing more for their country). The only reason why the rich are fined at low costs in percent to their income is that the rich influence the law and change everything so to benefit their own greediness. By paying slightly more tax the rich, which they absolutely can as they don't really need all the money that they have US can lower taxes on the poor. It's really not gonna affect the rich much, the only thing that would take place would be less poverty and crimes, and a greater contribution to the US government. Instead of paying $100,000 the rich can pay $120000 for e.g by doing so, the poor could pay instead of $1000 they would pay $800. This extra $200 income could allow the poor to save more money and increase in wealth at the same time the total impact on the economy/taxes that are rexeived will not be affected as much because the rich would be compensating for the poor.

  • @_acakes
    @_acakes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8939

    If more of the rich kids were like Glasses kid I think the world would be a better place. I want to be his friend.

    • @jasonl3736
      @jasonl3736 5 ปีที่แล้ว +377

      he could be a very good liar for all we know. God knows how many people in politics present themselves as genuine but are actually scumbags

    • @brickbuddystudios
      @brickbuddystudios 5 ปีที่แล้ว +236

      He was a super star in speech and debate. Look at the old debate rounds on the internet and you’ll see him

    • @Maymei99
      @Maymei99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Brick Buddy Studios Really? Do you have any link or suggested words for search?

    • @brickbuddystudios
      @brickbuddystudios 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@Maymei99 look for "debate rounds Whitman AA". him and his brother debated for Walt Whitman.
      th-cam.com/video/ySilKwA6mJQ/w-d-xo.html
      thats a vid of him and his brother

    • @boysoul2075
      @boysoul2075 5 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      @@brickbuddystudios actually went to whitman with him when he was a senior. Him and his identical twin brother murdered everybody in debate.

  • @nkwari
    @nkwari 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3178

    5:41 - When gray t-shirt guy says Yale was the "most diverse" school he's been in, white-t-shirt guy's eyes were like "WTF?" LOL

    • @העבד
      @העבד 5 ปีที่แล้ว +163

      He probably went to some place where everyone has family ties lol

    • @muzictalks
      @muzictalks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That’s the rich for ya

    • @alek488
      @alek488 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      muzictalks those kids don’t look rich wearing 20 dollar t shirts lmao

    • @tonta3983
      @tonta3983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      alek
      you can wear $20 shirts and still be rich. not all rich people are constantly flexing their wealth.

    • @tonta3983
      @tonta3983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dave David
      i mean i guess it does make sense.

  • @rodrigo591ify
    @rodrigo591ify 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7857

    They're all going to end up working for guy in glasses.

    • @davethedave4060
      @davethedave4060 5 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      Harvard has been shamed by being tricked into hiring a fake Indian and also someone to teach The Constitution who has obviously never even read The Constitution. Ivy league schools are a joke they turn out grads like the Bushes, the Obamas, the Clintons, Al Gore All bought degrees, except the Obamas theirs were affirmative action, no child left behind.. Everyone knows none of those could pass a GED.

    • @alfredoalcantar8691
      @alfredoalcantar8691 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      A students working for c students

    • @emanichantel6149
      @emanichantel6149 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yuck

    • @jeanettealfred3054
      @jeanettealfred3054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or 20/20 ... Date line... EXTREME VIOLENCE, they couldn't fathom him not enjoying his privilege and ability to rationalize

    • @MarkyMark2177
      @MarkyMark2177 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YES

  • @donnab.333
    @donnab.333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1229

    Well, I hope the young black lady in Florida, who re-took the SAT; after she received tutoring, took online classes, & studied the princeton review prep book; but then was told by administrators that she cheated because her score was higher the second time; I hope she goes back & demands her second score be counted.

    • @tiredtypes1260
      @tiredtypes1260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      That’s so much bullshit, it’s almost as people can learn and improve themselves with hard work! Is that not the point?

    • @EggwithSubscribers-mz9du
      @EggwithSubscribers-mz9du 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      If I’ve taken the psat before without studying and without a calculator and scored in the 1200 range would my score be rejected if I scored near perfect on my junior year psat. This time I will study because I want to be a national merit scholar

    • @flightevolution8132
      @flightevolution8132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      LMFAO They actually confirmed she cheated. Stop standing up for cheaters

    • @ComicNote
      @ComicNote 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Cersei Lannister Ikr it completely earraped my phone screen.

    • @chaeluvrr
      @chaeluvrr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@flightevolution8132 when did they confirm that ?? all I've seen is that she agreed to do a retake and she was already an honor student as well.

  • @sebastianellis6110
    @sebastianellis6110 5 ปีที่แล้ว +598

    I remember the first time I learned that people had tutors and classes for the SAT .... I was so surprised... it never occurred to me that I had a disadvantage because of my lower middle class status because I never felt like I lacked when I was growing up... I don't feel bad about it I had a lot of advantages ... but it definitely makes me think about how underutilized talents are because of lack of funds to develop.... fair would be nice but the world isn't fair

    • @catherinesmith5793
      @catherinesmith5793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      At my school we have programs where u can go in for tutoring from grads at a certain time, it’s all free as long as ur a student I’m shook this is acc an issue in America I’ve never had this problem and I’m middle class if I’ve ever needed tutoring or help I just register many other schools around ours has this too. I think if u can afford it and care about ur education ofc u should get it but I’ve never thought it was a privilege thing Cause even when I had a private tutor she cost me twenty bucks a session I thats Just two hours of work like how much y’all paying ur tutors lol

    • @Wednesdaywoe1975
      @Wednesdaywoe1975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@catherinesmith5793 Do you know that tutors--or hell, heat and toilet paper--are not available at all American schools? Or that for many people, $20 a session is more than they have?

    • @catherinesmith5793
      @catherinesmith5793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Wednesdaywoe1975 I never said they're available at all american schools? And 20 bucks isn't hard to come by I saved up twentys for a whole year to get a tutor with work, it's like an hour of work a day depending on what you do. There's resources everywhere it's just a matter of using them, and if I had the resources that these rich dudes have ofc I'd get a tutor if I needed one cause that's bettering myself as a person why wouldn't I do that? I think using ur resources to better yourself individually and using ur resources to cheat are two diff things.

    • @sebastian9555
      @sebastian9555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@catherinesmith5793 There's just an inherent difference between the chances that a rich kid gets in comparison to a poorer one. Of course poorer kids can work harder and achieve success, but there's still a difference between both.

    • @michellefoley8438
      @michellefoley8438 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sebastian Ellis well said

  • @yuentsang6903
    @yuentsang6903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2262

    I agree with the kid that say a degree from Yale probably doesn’t mean as much as most people think.

    • @Bobby-qf4jk
      @Bobby-qf4jk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      Naw, an elite school degree will open the floodgates of opportunisties.

    • @yuentsang6903
      @yuentsang6903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +167

      Jonny Blaze I work in corporate America and I never had an employer who ask me about the school that I attended. The only job that I ever heard that the employer would care about the school you attend are lawyers. How old are you?

    • @Bobby-qf4jk
      @Bobby-qf4jk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@yuentsang6903 Why would they ask if when you got hired you gave them your resume? Are you telling me that a boss or manager is going to look at an application the same even tho one says community college and the other Harvard? Are you serious?

    • @yuentsang6903
      @yuentsang6903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      Jonny Blaze Yes my sister when to Columbia and she had such a difficult time finding a job. Her job pays her far less than expected. I went to a no name school and earn twice as much as her. Studies have shown that university of Wisconsin is the the top CEO producer with 14 alumni who are current Fortune 500 CEOs.

    • @mikeaskme3530
      @mikeaskme3530 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @Yuen Tsang, you are so correct and now days a degree from any University really does not mean much, just my opinion.

  • @JN-ox2yd
    @JN-ox2yd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1159

    One universal truth spans all humans of all sexes, races, classes, religions: everyone hates discrimination unless they benefit from it.

    • @atthecore4560
      @atthecore4560 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      All two of those sexes XD

    • @katysmith1284
      @katysmith1284 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      AT THE CORE intersex people exist! Biological sex can even be something crazy like XXY, there’s more than two there.

    • @nogedoge
      @nogedoge 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@katysmith1284 An exception to the rule doesn't change the rule, and intersex individuals still have only TWO sexes.

    • @grayonthewater
      @grayonthewater 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🙌

    • @SharkSujay
      @SharkSujay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very very very very true

  • @MopMop1234
    @MopMop1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3098

    Rich guy with the glasses knows what to say to not get in trouble later on in life

    • @jasonl3736
      @jasonl3736 5 ปีที่แล้ว +354

      he's preparing for a career in politics

    • @talitam.8414
      @talitam.8414 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I thought exactly the same 😂

    • @yanopam1435
      @yanopam1435 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I’m so dead

    • @freedomdude5420
      @freedomdude5420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      You got that right, but though I have a feel he not to be trust. He look shadowed for a rich people.

    • @freedomdude5420
      @freedomdude5420 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shade person I meant.

  • @qquynhnguyen
    @qquynhnguyen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1316

    The glasses guy (Will Arnesen) is a debate god. I wish they let him speak more!

    • @jamalbouayad744
      @jamalbouayad744 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Quynh Ha I LOVE U .ive been scrolling down these comments for 10 minutes looking for his name

    • @therealjayz8036
      @therealjayz8036 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@jamalbouayad744 his name is literally in the video. Had you watched the first 1:20 minutes of the video, could have saved you 10 minutes of scrolling down the comments

    • @JMS_Hunter
      @JMS_Hunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Precisely because he is so good at debating he doesn't need to speak that much.

    • @countrymyheart50
      @countrymyheart50 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please dont blaspheme.

  • @LetsPartyOurFacesOff
    @LetsPartyOurFacesOff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +294

    The “privilege” jumped out and only the kid with the glasses cough it.

  • @augusta1493
    @augusta1493 5 ปีที่แล้ว +941

    The guy with glasses speaking truth!

    • @nicobob553
      @nicobob553 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Ella Augusta he was probably one of the best public forum debaters in the events history

    • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
      @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      He's either going to be the greatest Economist in the nations history, code the ultimate "Where did my glasses go" app, or be the greatest Serial Killer in the nations history up until 2064.

    • @JK-gu3tl
      @JK-gu3tl 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing I would hope he find a more respectful profession than economist.

    • @carmensmithaguirre3049
      @carmensmithaguirre3049 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Haha since when is spitting truth in an IDGAF attitude a qualifier for being a serial killer?

  • @ChrisCas22
    @ChrisCas22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1583

    The guy with the glasses is hilarious, im surprised he kept a straight face throughout the whole talk. haha

    • @msvisualize
      @msvisualize 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      I see him being sincere . He had to battle with a golden spoon in mouth , but he himself is intelligent, on his own merit And are we to blame him for being born of wealth?. He is being forth-right. I appreciate these students expressing their thoughts, opinions. Baby boomer salutes you.

    • @rohanpatel4330
      @rohanpatel4330 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      btw that kid is a world champion debater

    • @PCAchievements
      @PCAchievements 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      That guy is one of the rare exceptions where even if he wasn't a legacy he would have probably still gotten into Yale on his academics (you can tell by his attitude and how he kept saying it should be 100 percent about academics). The other kids at his table are not so lucky so while they acknowledge the system is unfair and favors the rich they do not want it changed because they like being at the top.

    • @aggressivelyamicable5987
      @aggressivelyamicable5987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@PCAchievements This comment is so odd to me. What do you mean by "rare exceptions"? You realize that wealth generally means higher levels of education, earlier and greater mental stimulation, early access to professional experience and a strong support network, right? All those factors make it such that many wealthy legacies are far superior to other applicants. I can understand your general sentiment about the impact of wealth on admission but it's a massive stretch to assume a qualified legacy is a "rare exception".

    • @mauve9266
      @mauve9266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aggressively Amicable I was thinking the same thing. Wealth itself isn’t always what gets you in. It’s usually the opportunities in life it affords you. And though that’s not meritocratic, it’s not illegal nor is it inherently wrong.

  • @DayofToast
    @DayofToast 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1514

    5:41 I love how the guy on the far left just progressively moves as far away from the others as possible.

  • @thecalmbeforethemaelstrom
    @thecalmbeforethemaelstrom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    guy with the glasses looked at all of his peers when he said "Some degrees may be worth less than others." ROASTED

  • @suet6667
    @suet6667 5 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    so that girl had to go to Yale in order to understand that she is "well off" wow

    • @suqmaddiqq
      @suqmaddiqq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      And that dude with the Nike shirt too. He said even his high school was homogenous

    • @Zeverinsen
      @Zeverinsen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      It's not that weird, really.
      Everything is relative.
      A relatively poor person in the US, might be seen as relatively middle class in an even poorer country.
      Not being able to attend a prestigious university because of the system might seem less unfair when compared to people that couldn't go to elementary school because they didn't have one.
      If you've only ever known an upper middle class of privilege in a western country, and so have the people around you, it's not stupid of you to think of it as the norm. The fact that she acknowledged it in the first place is a good thing.

    • @nothing5779
      @nothing5779 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😥 they all did seem a little slow and detached to me, except for the guy in glasses

  • @moniquew3603
    @moniquew3603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +705

    Theres a fine line between, donations, gifts, and BRIBERY. In many countries giving a "gift" is considered as a form of BRIBERY.
    That dude with the glasses is AWARE of his privilege... he was so real and I appreciated that!!!!!

    • @rokuwhitefox
      @rokuwhitefox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      He was the only one who got it. The others were blind beyond belief.

    • @mauz791
      @mauz791 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He was woke af

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you do something good for the school (a *private business* ), e.g. pay for a building, why shouldn't they do something good for you in return?
      Public schools are a completely different matter, and they should be impartial in the admissions process, but Yale is a private institution. They should be allowed to do pretty much whatever they want as far as admissions. That's not to say I agree with the practice of using a large donation as a bribe, just that it shouldn't be illegal.

    • @soulscanner66
      @soulscanner66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@tissuepaper9962 Because that's bribery. It's corrupt. It degrades society by rewarding corruption.

    • @overdrive7349
      @overdrive7349 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@tissuepaper9962it encourages unfair admission and neglect of disadvantaged but talented individuals. When an institution gives you something because you gave them something in return, that is bribery. That's not how admissions work.

  • @emmacat3202
    @emmacat3202 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3465

    The dude in glasses gets it. He's invited to the cookout. We'll just have hotdogs, burgers, and casserole. Hope he'd be down for that.

    • @MichaelLee-nn9fo
      @MichaelLee-nn9fo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      and beer dont forget the 🍺

    • @ibieiniid4240
      @ibieiniid4240 5 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      you're giving out cookout invites for some basic ass shit, just so you know.

    • @ruffey1748
      @ruffey1748 5 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      @@ibieiniid4240 Exactly. We gotta stop inviting people to the cookout for the bare minimum on race relations and anti-racism. There is so much more to do than just acknowledging that one has privilege.

    • @aggressivelyamicable5987
      @aggressivelyamicable5987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      See, it's because of this simplicity of thought that politics is so radicalized these days. You see someone who will talk in a way that pleases your mindset while they haven't actually invested anything towards that ideal beyond words. Now when a similar individual is more honest about their views you brand them as racist while they are no different than the individual you've supported. Be more discerning, question everything.

    • @velvetstorm4563
      @velvetstorm4563 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      What cook out?? Lmao

  • @cristalc751
    @cristalc751 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2681

    shoutout to the ally in glasses for keeping it real

    • @jackielana9993
      @jackielana9993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +269

      youcometome9 rich homie recognizes classism and privilege and doesn’t absolve himself from gaining from it? That’s an ally I’d say.

    • @Sp1n1985
      @Sp1n1985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      He's a debate champion

    • @fortyfour8160
      @fortyfour8160 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      LOL "ally" too funny

    • @thebobsagetguy
      @thebobsagetguy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jackielana9993 yet still advantages from being a legacy lmfao if he was a real "ally" he'd give up his spot to a minority

    • @Chronosmaster002
      @Chronosmaster002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And that last line of his sums it up

  • @the_epicfangirl
    @the_epicfangirl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    To be fair with the wealthy students the boy with the glasses was a junior. The other three were sophomores and a freshman. The other group was all seniors. I feel that he knew what was up because he was older and he’d been at school long enough to see through all the bullshit. I’m not saying that’s the only reason, but you definitely learn more the older you get.

  • @bizarrepanic2701
    @bizarrepanic2701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    Is having a high income a bad thing? NO!
    Is being a legacy bad? NO!
    Does being a lower income student in Yale make you a charity case? No & it shouldn't ever be that way.
    The issue is allowing a student of any economic class into a school when they do not meet the same academic merits as their fellow students.

    • @avinashreji60
      @avinashreji60 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      you shouldn't get in as legacy, it just helps perpetuate a system in which the rich dominate

    • @tiredtypes1260
      @tiredtypes1260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yeah, you really can’t change your parentage. If your parents are from Yale or Princeton or Harvard, you can’t change that. Even if you don’t mention it on your application, it’s still going to be there. The point is, there should not be any factoring of this random chance that is “what you’ve been born into” in college applications.

    • @rohanprince96
      @rohanprince96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@avinashreji60 and by this you shouldn't go in due to affirmative action because that is just the victim card and you might just be as bad as someone going in because of legacy.

    • @Zeverinsen
      @Zeverinsen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@rohanprince96 No.
      If you have parents that studied at a prestigious university, that already means you have better resources (be they economic or educational) than a person who does not. You already have an advantage, which means adding the "legacy" thing is an unnecessary extra.
      People that get into these universities despite their background, are given something because they had nothing but their own drive and talent. They had a disadvantage, but are given a pass that evens it out slightly.
      These two things are not the same.

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Zeverinsen It's a private institution, it doesn't need to be fair, and it shouldn't be forced to be fair. There's no such thing as fair.
      The best solution is to make it known that Ivy Leagues aren't the only places to get a great education, and that, oftentimes, they're worse than a comparable public school due to the lack of diversity (a huge part of a college education is learning how to work together with people from diverse backgrounds, something that's hard to learn when you're at a school chock-full of upper class people).
      If you aren't a fan of the fact that a private institution is allowed to give certain students preference, just don't go to a private school. Go to your state school, or a public school with a good program for what you want to study, because, chances are, it will be just as good of an education or better.

  • @harpergallegos7983
    @harpergallegos7983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2449

    it’s ok to be wealthy
    what is not ok is to use your wealth as an advantage to get something other people worked had for. I’m not talking about materialistic items, I’m talking about education, jobs etc.
    it’s not ok to deprive someone of their future, just because you have a unfair advantage of having wealthy parents

    • @cruziero15
      @cruziero15 5 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      You're assuming that the wealthy only gain advantage through connections and that is not true. The wealthy have access to more resources like tutors, better healthcare, and time (students that are wealthy might not need to find a job while studying) etc. Wealth will always bring advantage.

    • @TheGamer583
      @TheGamer583 5 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      So you’re saying that having wealth is okay as long as you don’t use it to gain things other people don’t have? As in, having wealth is okay as long as you don’t use it to better your private education to better your chances at being accepted into colleges or getting jobs? As in, you don’t buy a car because it’s an advantage on people who have to use public transport?

    • @ariannepady3962
      @ariannepady3962 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@TheGamer583 they literally said they weren't talking about materialistic items.

    • @davethedave4060
      @davethedave4060 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      so it's O K to use "fake" poverty to get what you want like the Obamas?

    • @glorymanheretosleep
      @glorymanheretosleep 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's ok to do that because it isn't what you know, but who you know. You're still young. So you're clueless. If I were you I would be more concerned about the nepotism in public services that actually takes away from you than rich kids being promoted in their family businesses.

  • @Scarter63
    @Scarter63 5 ปีที่แล้ว +727

    Man, that one rich dude is WOKE!

    • @amylee9
      @amylee9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scarter63 And you’re too. I can tell.

    • @nova77791
      @nova77791 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      'Woke' yawn, if all things were ecen the top schools would be 90% asian

    • @miaplayz1472
      @miaplayz1472 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scarter63 HAHA

  • @archangelone7176
    @archangelone7176 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1685

    The group of 4 with the guy with the glasses you could tell 3 out of 4 were rich due to their answers they don't really understand what it means to not to have wealth, tutors and instant resources. The 2nd group felt and was more real in their answers due to being on the opposite spectrum which is where the vast of majority of people are.

    • @Angel_Shyyy
      @Angel_Shyyy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True

    • @catherinesmith5793
      @catherinesmith5793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      I got what the grey shirt meant by tutors tho like one person who doesn’t work hard but comes from wealth just pays for admission, someone else who also has wealth gets tutoring to better themselves they work hard and are admitted because of the tutoring they received like they got in on their own I think that’s the difference he was tryna point out, some use wealth to cheat the system but do those who use their wealth to better themselves and their knowledge and weakness like getting tutoring, count as cheating the system. I personally get how it’s resources not everyone can afford but it’s not the same as bribing ur way in you are bettering yourself you have built yourself up to be admitted if I had wealth hell yeah I’d invest in tutors

    • @ElizabethAfeworki
      @ElizabethAfeworki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Shiek Dad yeah, both require money.

    • @lakshitdagar
      @lakshitdagar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I felt that only that one guy with the glasses was knowledgeable about social issues. All other 6 were very lost. Even the 3 non-rich kids were just complaining and not just talking about any good idea for change or anything.

    • @lakshitdagar
      @lakshitdagar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElizabethAfeworki and?

  • @sophiejames2688
    @sophiejames2688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Still shocked that 'legacy' is a genuine thing that helps your application - I don't know if we have it here (UK) but I struggle to see how it can be justified at all

    • @onlyhousestarklivesmatter
      @onlyhousestarklivesmatter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I think we do, people whose parents went to Oxbridge definitely have a better chance of going there. I have a family member who goes to Cambridge and they explained how so many of their class mates were "second / third generation" students... So yeah, we might not be as meritocratic here in the UK as we like to think.

    • @sophiejames2688
      @sophiejames2688 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Only House Stark Lives Matter I completely agree with that - although the video made it seem as though legacy is a written down concrete contribution to your application in the US, whereas I get the impression that oxbridge will suss it out at the interview and give a sneaky advantage. A bit more underhand.

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sophiejames2688 Yes, at most American universities (private ones, at least) they will ask you if any of your relatives attended directly on the application, and aren't shy about the fact that it helps your application.
      I honestly don't think it's something that needs to be justified in the case of private schools. They're private businesses, who can serve (or not serve) basically whomever they want (except in certain cases involving protected classes).
      It shouldn't exist at public schools, and, as far as I know, it holds very little weight at most public institutions. Sometimes they'll give people with legacy a cheaper tuition (for example, ISU admissions is based on a publicly available mathematical formula using your GPA and ACT score, i.e. it's as meritocratic as possible. If you have legacy at ISU, it doesn't affect whether or not you get in, but it makes tuition significantly cheaper.)

    • @Emily-ug2ct
      @Emily-ug2ct 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sophiejames2688 It is. Although I will say that it def depends on the school. 50% of Harvard's population is legacy I believe, which really goes to show just how much and how many people benefit from it. I think having legacy status def helps one in a college application--not just private schools bc in the US, some public schools are HUGE on legacy as well-- because it not only shows the ways that one's family has "'helped" the school, it also shows that the student is more likely to be financially more well off, which means they get to give out fewer grants, something I believe private institutions value.

    • @Nickfdz95
      @Nickfdz95 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have it in Mexico, if a familiar of yours went to Tec de Monterrey or UNAM you will get preference over the others.
      It has been like that for a long time so I'm not surprised Yale does it too.

  • @dawnandeve
    @dawnandeve 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    What I noticed is that the lower income students would constantly look at each other while speaking, as if they collectively wanted to make sure that what they're saying was true for the others and not overshadow their experiences onto others, where as the richer students would directly face the interviewer and only answer by looking at her and only turn their head to see if someone else was talking. The difference of independent vs. interdependent holds very much true when it comes to wealth.

  • @lizsadler2056
    @lizsadler2056 5 ปีที่แล้ว +718

    Wait, their HIGH SCHOOLS WERE LESS DIVERSE THAN YALE!?

    • @kevinhuang2165
      @kevinhuang2165 5 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      Yes. Suburban and Rural Areas of America are very white.

    • @yourname5222
      @yourname5222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Why does that matter?

    • @starzzzy22
      @starzzzy22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@kevinhuang2165 Actually, as a whole, suburbs are pretty diverse nowadays. They probably just lived in very white weathly areas.

    • @yourname5222
      @yourname5222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Michelle Appiah well idk the demographics of Yale but I think the Ivy league school is not a place for homogeneity these are the best schools in the country and arguably the world I think the best minds from all backgrounds in America should be going to Yale Harvard etc

    • @katiehenschell3562
      @katiehenschell3562 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They specifically meant income diversity

  • @DeborahM116
    @DeborahM116 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1191

    "My highschool was a lot more homogeneous than Yale" dude @5:46 threw him a look like "What in the Whitey-white white?"... That about took me out

    • @danaelona4081
      @danaelona4081 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      He looked like that the whole time... he was not participating 👽💀

    • @yourname5222
      @yourname5222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      What's wrong with white people wanting to be around other white people?

    • @evanw2195
      @evanw2195 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      jupiter lost tf?

    • @yourname5222
      @yourname5222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@evanw2195 tf what dude? answer my question what's wrong with white people wanting to be around other white people?

    • @MusicGameFinatic999
      @MusicGameFinatic999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@yourname5222 it's just a little racist lol

  • @tielmaster7879
    @tielmaster7879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    Tbh most people probably didn't even think this was even illegal as most people already knew this was happening for a long time.

    • @shafaalya884
      @shafaalya884 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tiel Master well but they know it’s wrong but then again money can buy everything so like why even surprised

    • @darklight38
      @darklight38 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This will continue to happen. Elite Colleges will never stop taking money, that's stupid. Just make sure to make as much money as humanly possible so you can one day make a huge donation and up your kid's chances of getting into an elite school.

    • @cryptocynic304
      @cryptocynic304 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bingo!

  • @daddy_marx6823
    @daddy_marx6823 5 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    Glasses dude is what I expect from a yale student, I'm sure the others are very smart individuals but none of them showed nearly as much smart person power as he did

    • @vivek27789
      @vivek27789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      He is actually a great debater....he was 2 time national high school debate champion...while at yale he won the North American universities debating championship and finished runner up in US universities debating championship and World universities debating championship.

  • @supercjv6055
    @supercjv6055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    The only difference between Yale and a public state school is that Yale has the “reputation” whilst being 10x more expensive. You’ll learn the same thing by the end of a degree in any college.

    • @beckham3533
      @beckham3533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah and im pretty sure most employers dont care which uni you came from as long as you got the degree

    • @himlolo
      @himlolo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@beckham3533 not really. Prestige carries weight especially when it comes to stuff like medicine and law. You also get the best professors.

    • @Nickfdz95
      @Nickfdz95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You will not learn the same thing by the end. I'm guessing you didn't fully understand what they said in the video.
      Having a degree from Yale will give you better opportunities and better education but it won't make you a needle in the haystack as many people believe.

  • @DuaneLeeLV
    @DuaneLeeLV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +290

    us citizens: Upset that people use money to break the rules.
    US Congress: use money to get into position to make the rules

    • @NiceGuy678
      @NiceGuy678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Duane Lee there are a decent number of US citizens who think that money=merit, and that’s how it should be.

    • @DuaneLeeLV
      @DuaneLeeLV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@NiceGuy678 if its money that someone earned through hard work and dedication, then sure. If its money that was handed to you as a favor (ie. Campaign contributions or inheritances) then obviously there's no merit, just privilege

    • @NiceGuy678
      @NiceGuy678 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Duane Lee I was talking about it in regards to college admissions, and how donations to the school means your kids get in no matter their grades. I don’t think it should work that way no matter how that parent got their money.

  • @AishwaryaNet
    @AishwaryaNet 5 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    "Whether it was buying a building or photoshopping your face on a water polo team, you are bribing yourself in"

  • @Constellation3232
    @Constellation3232 5 ปีที่แล้ว +900

    Guy with the glasses is speaking the truth! 🙏🏼 you can see the emotion boiling underneath haha, he was close to losing his composure. I'm not sure if the other guy was arguing with him, or just playing the devil's advocate, but regardless- paying someone to take your SAT is amoral, as well as donating to a school so your kid can get in.
    Would you still see your doctor if they got into med school by bribery, faking SAT scores, legacy, etc..???

    • @DrArthurCGarp
      @DrArthurCGarp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I think what really pissed him off was comparing a donation vs bribery to getting a tutor vs paying someone to take your SAT. Because only getting a tutor adds to one's merit while everything else is admitting "I can't get in so I'll pay to win".

    • @violetsnowfield
      @violetsnowfield 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@DrArthurCGarp i agree. There is nothing wrong in getting a high-paying tutor if your wealth can afford it and you actually use the chance well.

    • @purplemonkeys11
      @purplemonkeys11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      nah now you can get into med school by your race and not by your stats.

    • @von3689
      @von3689 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A tutor is an investment.

    • @plipplop1769
      @plipplop1769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't glasses say there was minimal difference in getting a tutor and paying someone to do your SATs? That's what put me off of him.

  • @KaitlynKatt
    @KaitlynKatt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    I’ve watched enough episodes of Gossip Girl to not be surprised about the scandal at all

  • @kirani111
    @kirani111 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    That girl saying she thought she was middle class till she got to Yale is me realizing how broke I actually am when starting college lmao. My friends are all pretty affluent so they couldn't understand when I explained that if I miss the bus and have to uber I don't get to eat dinner. They even pointed out that I work four jobs, I should be fine. Boi no, those paychecks belong to my landlord and my loans lol.

  • @johndanielson3777
    @johndanielson3777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +428

    Think about all the black, brown, & low-income students who arrive at college & are made to feel as if they don't deserve to be there, while so many rich white students have their parents buy their admission to college & rarely experience the same skepticism.

    • @andrewhuckstable5996
      @andrewhuckstable5996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      John Henderson Because without extra points for not being white or Asian, the admittance rates for them drop way down. Also, Black women are the most heavily educated group in the US.

    • @queenv3175
      @queenv3175 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes

    • @Theoneandonly88able
      @Theoneandonly88able 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@andrewhuckstable5996 Where are you getting this factual source from? Or is it your own opinion, because black people as a whole make up lower a percentage at universities compared to other minorities like Asians.

    • @andrewhuckstable5996
      @andrewhuckstable5996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Theoneandonly88able Salon, The Root, Upworthy, The Independent, the center for educational statistics.
      Whites are still the majority in many areas of the US, so even if white women for example outnumber black women 3 to 1. Black women are still proportionally getting more degrees.

    • @andrewhuckstable5996
      @andrewhuckstable5996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Theoneandonly88able Asians are need more SAT points than whites to get into top tier schools and way more than blacks.

  • @kengonzales6612
    @kengonzales6612 5 ปีที่แล้ว +906

    I love the rich kid's annoyed look at 4:46

    • @danaelona4081
      @danaelona4081 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      He looks so..... rich.

    • @aluyulf
      @aluyulf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      The Nike shirt kid kinda reminds me of Ben Shapiro

    • @cheesecakelasagna
      @cheesecakelasagna 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He reminds me of Will Toledo.

    • @Sp1n1985
      @Sp1n1985 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danaelona4081 Nike Shirt? Or the debate kid?

    • @Yugetubes
      @Yugetubes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Plot twist: He's intelligent.

  • @Kelz_X
    @Kelz_X 5 ปีที่แล้ว +612

    The “rich” group all have a vocal fry 🤣 🥴. But the one with glasses is on point ! Bravo man

    • @jackieanderson3820
      @jackieanderson3820 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      KelZ X the vocal fry was yuge

    • @---nobody---
      @---nobody--- 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What’s vocal fry?

    • @raelamaestra
      @raelamaestra 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      SLP?

    • @cryora
      @cryora 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's better than constantly trying to hollah.

    • @marCHILLL
      @marCHILLL 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the "poor" group all have a vocal fry as well

  • @michaelhorsey5871
    @michaelhorsey5871 5 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    2:26
    “I theoretically had 4 other relatives that went to Princeton.”
    What a way to try and muddy the waters to make your argument look valid.

    • @larazanz
      @larazanz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      How do you “theoretically” have relatives that went to Princeton? They either went or didn’t.

    • @internetlexi
      @internetlexi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      larazanz yeah

  • @muneeraf3427
    @muneeraf3427 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    for people who were shocked by these allegations, this has been happening for CENTURIES, and I think more people should be held accountable and this should've been investigated years ago. People who get in through their parents, and have no motivation for education take that opportunity away from someone more deserving.

  • @masondineen7
    @masondineen7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    I honestly just assumed it was legal for rich people to pay more to get in.

    • @sohaminyoh
      @sohaminyoh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It is, that’s what they said in the video.

    • @Vyxia
      @Vyxia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sohaminyoh what- it's legal? Bruhh i thought this was all popular bc it was a scandal bc its illegal

    • @sohaminyoh
      @sohaminyoh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Zerxz The donation to the school is legal but when you’re bribing one admissions officer then it’s illegal. Both will probably give you the same results but I would imagine you would have to donate more money than you would bribe.

    • @Vyxia
      @Vyxia 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sohaminyoh oh- I wasn't thinking of donations- I was thinking of bribery.

    • @darklight38
      @darklight38 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why wouldn't Elite Colleges just take rich students anyway? Why take broke kids? A college is a business after all, not a charity.

  • @pipersolanas3322
    @pipersolanas3322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +496

    Thw glasses guy definitely deserves to be where he is

    • @patdan123
      @patdan123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @Gabriel Huang well no, because he is a realistic and should i say humane man. He acknowledged that things such as privileges exist and doesn't try to wiggle out of it.

    • @vivek27789
      @vivek27789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      well he actually deserves to be there....he was 2 time national high school debating champion(first and only person to do so)....while at yale he won the North American debating championship and has finished runner up in US universities debating championship and World university debating championship.

    • @ok-lm9ns
      @ok-lm9ns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      vishal vivek not surprising. He speaks with a great amount of eloquence. I’m not surprised he’s a debating champion.

  • @ADHD55
    @ADHD55 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1390

    Money can buy anything why are people surprised
    Edit wow guys thanks for the 1k likes 😄

    • @ryangoepfert9112
      @ryangoepfert9112 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think because we all suspected but deep down hoped that it wasn't true and that it really was a meritocracy

    • @andreware6492
      @andreware6492 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Peter Connell unless you are black

    • @Sp1n1985
      @Sp1n1985 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shut up everyone! Money is your God and learn how to budget!

    • @Mr_Sandman-s3q
      @Mr_Sandman-s3q 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Peter Connell because money can’t buy you equality

    • @turquoisegreene9625
      @turquoisegreene9625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      maybe we should stop acting like that's okay and do something about it?

  • @energizerhusky
    @energizerhusky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The 3 kids tryna convince the kid in the glasses to see their end, and he instantly shuts em down. Bruh love it.

  • @Notezl
    @Notezl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It's refreshing to see the higher-income kids be really aware of their privileges, discussing the issue in such a mature way and overall having a good head on their shoulders. Education does make a difference!

  • @MMSGEE
    @MMSGEE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +688

    "work multiple hours a week" clearly never had a job, lol

    • @grgryocean
      @grgryocean 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      They only work single hour weeks!

    • @foxobsession96212
      @foxobsession96212 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @Richard Durkee Yeah, but if your income isn't being provided by parent's then not working while being a full-time student isn't an option. This is why many options for advancement in society are off of the table for people who aren't lucky enough to be born into an affluent family. The route for advancement for the lower-middle class and the poor is usually filled with a significant more amount of stress, time, and struggle. There is a huge amount of barriers for the lower class that the upper class is ignorant to. And I don't blame people for ignorance, because it's not their fault. The system is entirely broken and strongly favors classism. For example, a highschool student could have aspirations to attend an ivy league school and has the drive, ability, grades, and extracurriculars that make them qualified. Yet, their parents never even attended college and live paycheck to paycheck, so the kid will have to be entirely self-sufficient. Even if they have their school expenses paid through scholarships and waivers. They need money to pay rent, eat, have clothes to wear, or for any other random circumstances, so working enough to pay for all these is necessary. People underestimate the intense mental and physical battle it is handling all of that as a fresh 18 year old who doesn't even have a grasp on the world yet. It also is disheartening seeing all of these other students who do the same amount of studying, yet the free time they have left can be spent enjoying themselves and and usually going on vacations and out to eat when you work full time, attend school, and still don't even have enough to get a combo and not eat off the dollar menu lol.

    • @crestflames492
      @crestflames492 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Richard Durkee still, there’s plenty of kids that have a full schedule (16-18 hrs a trimester, I’m on a trimester system) and work more than that. I work at least 25 hrs a week with a full academic schedule.

    • @12inter88
      @12inter88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      StaciMay not in an Ivy but that’s essentially been my story. My parents are immigrants so I’ve had to work two jobs while in college. It’s insulting to hear my advisor tell me “work less and get involved”

    • @Aaron565
      @Aaron565 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@foxobsession96212 Listen asshole. Its better that the wealthy reap the rewards than the middle class getting further squeezed to pay for the poor who feel they deserve something.

  • @xelefonte
    @xelefonte 5 ปีที่แล้ว +787

    George W. bush went to Yale. That’s all you need to know about Yale’s merit system.

    • @djeieakekseki2058
      @djeieakekseki2058 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      xele fonte lol

    • @vyentro29
      @vyentro29 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmaooo. Ha.

    • @kevinzhang3313
      @kevinzhang3313 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Still, you go to an education for yourself, for your reasons, what YOU want to do with your life. What that school lets in and what it does isn't a reflection of you.

    • @kansasthunderman1
      @kansasthunderman1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The Clintons went to famous name schools so their diplomas are just as worthless as Bush's.

    • @phil6748
      @phil6748 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      kansasthunderman1 all diplomas are worthless.

  • @DreamChaser1366
    @DreamChaser1366 5 ปีที่แล้ว +402

    This college admission scandal you keep learning more about how they exposed the system. To be that rich and take advantage of the advantages given to the disabled is quite despicable.

    • @erickcartman832
      @erickcartman832 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      OG Cookie Monster you must be very young to just realize that the rich and famous get what they want by acting or paying there way . Just look around your family. Most of them got there job by knowing or smacking it up to someone for jobs, you lie on a daily basis to sell your products to the masses or by that top shelf for your products the world is built on lies , eat this lose weight eat this get fat . Your children are born in a culture of lies and you haven’t figured it out . Can’t blame this on trump diet water

    • @myownmusings342
      @myownmusings342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think that is a new thing we learned. That people are even willing to game the disabled to get their rich children into college. We always knew about buying buildings to get your kids in (as the parents of poorer children would say "thanks for buying the library my kid studies in") but this scandal is definitely a new low.

    • @erickcartman832
      @erickcartman832 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      CanadaUSTango Then you missed the down fall of the poor and the not willing to play along lost everything after 9/11 , everyone got researched and almost every government , doctor, lawyers, had printed there diploma, or had paid someone to print them , the poor couldn’t defend them selfs and the rich paid news agencies not to publish there names,

    • @SirPhysics
      @SirPhysics 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rich parents paying psychologists to "diagnose" their kids with a learning disability to get them extended time on exams is nothing new. It happened pretty regularly at one of the high schools at which I taught. Personally I think timed tests are bullshit in the first place, but being able to work around those limitations just because your family has money is downright shitty.

    • @erickcartman832
      @erickcartman832 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most inventors don’t have college degrees, Millions of dollars where made by college dropouts,

  • @charlottekatakuri4550
    @charlottekatakuri4550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    4:47
    The way he looks at them lol

    • @carmensmithaguirre3049
      @carmensmithaguirre3049 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha yeah. That made me lol.

    • @tiny2156
      @tiny2156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That face is priceless

    • @MrsDaedalus_
      @MrsDaedalus_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I noticed that too, he was like: "Are you being serious right now? 🤦" 😂

  • @AttackStart
    @AttackStart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The rich kid in glasses was the only rich kid that didn't look like a deer in headlights. The rest of the affluent kids had the kind of look on your face when you forget your line in a play and you are waiting for a prompt from offstage. Probably how their job searches are going to go.

  • @godlyoli7821
    @godlyoli7821 5 ปีที่แล้ว +441

    Home boy with the glasses is guaranteed a spot at the cook out fr fr

  • @strawhat8458
    @strawhat8458 5 ปีที่แล้ว +508

    I'll find it funny that he try to justify donations like this not the same as bribery... and of course a legacy guy said that

    • @MilitanT07
      @MilitanT07 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      The obviouse major difference is that the money goes toward the benefits of the school and its community and not to the middle man...

    • @collinyan7467
      @collinyan7467 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      and at least they are upfront about it and didn't fraudulently get in. As a private school it is completely valid for them to sell admissions for money. At least if they do it that way their reputation will tank if too many people pay to get in.

    • @strawhat8458
      @strawhat8458 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@MilitanT07 .... you stating the big difference like that supposed to matter.... you pretty much buying your way into college you can call it what you want but that's what it is... making it seem like the school needs the donation that's why is it a donation... donation to cheat the tax codes the same thing as this

    • @strawhat8458
      @strawhat8458 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@collinyan7467 .... only reason why they are up front about it because it's legal for some reason... so if I told you I killed somebody that makes it right because I told you upfront

    • @pgb3156
      @pgb3156 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@strawhat8458 If someone has the money, they get to use the money for their own benefit, that's reality. Keep crying, shit won't change.

  • @michaellyden2580
    @michaellyden2580 5 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    I remember the first time I visited Boston. I paid a visit to the Natural History Museum at Harvard. As I was leaving, walking through the campus, I was looking around at this highly prestigious school, and thought to myself, "Wow! Harvard. Your parents must've beaten you senseless in order for you to have earned your spot at a school like this.
    Turns out, for some students, the exact opposite is true.

    • @Sp1n1985
      @Sp1n1985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's all fancy campuses with papers? And professors

    • @Idontcommentonvideos
      @Idontcommentonvideos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The exact opposite being... the kids beat the parents?

    • @Sp1n1985
      @Sp1n1985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Idontcommentonvideos spank is not same as beat

    • @Idontcommentonvideos
      @Idontcommentonvideos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Marcus INfinity cool.
      OP said 'beat senseless' though
      Don't really see what point you're trying to make

    • @Sp1n1985
      @Sp1n1985 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Idontcommentonvideos 🙄go to timeout corner and where the dunce hat, Joshie

  • @sahilbasera834
    @sahilbasera834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The fact that they had to go to Yale to realize that they were "priviledged" just shows how detached they are from the real-world.

  • @SatansFire
    @SatansFire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The unfairness of life makes my blood boil sometimes. I've personally come up in privilege but have watched my lower class friends suffer as they desperately try to care for family, themselves, all while trying to make proud everyone whos ever supported them and make it far in life.

    • @SatansFire
      @SatansFire 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @David Winehouse Thanks for that crucial information a year later David

  • @TalkAsSoftAsChalk
    @TalkAsSoftAsChalk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1015

    Hey kid with the Nike shirt, try and be more like the guy with the glasses. It'll help you when you get out of "diverse" Yale.

    • @Seeker0fTruth
      @Seeker0fTruth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maliha Intikhab lol PREACH

    • @littleraskle
      @littleraskle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Lol when he gets out of diverse Yale hes gonna surrond himself with whites/rich people only and continue to live in his bubble.

    • @TalkAsSoftAsChalk
      @TalkAsSoftAsChalk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@littleraskle Agreed! Yale will always be the most diverse place he ever sees.

    • @covertwasp5238
      @covertwasp5238 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The kid with the glasses is the Great Nordic White man. Lorenzo Arvanitis is Hispanic & Albanian. Nike shirt only exists @ Yale because The Great Nordic White Man passed laws that allowed him to be there. No matter how hard he tries... he will fail. 3rd world brains fail.

    • @Aaron565
      @Aaron565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Either IQ is most important, in which case certain races are more valuable than others. Or raw ability is, in which case whoever can amass resources by whatever means is most valuable.

  • @jacobmaez277
    @jacobmaez277 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    To assume schools are meritocratic is wishful high schooler thinking. Higher education, particularly private, is a business and they need to keep running.
    Ivy League schools didn’t reach their status because only the brightest and best attended, but because the movers and shakers attended. Those movers and shakers are most often wealthy to start with. And alumni donations drive school rankings, with more donation getting a higher ranking.
    Nepotism is alive and well in more than just higher education. Even the best jobs are reserved for family and friends. Some low quality wealthy student will donate more than a high quality poor student would, simply because grades don’t matter. But even the one poor girl said it. She didn’t feel the need to donate back to her alma mater.
    It’s not the grades you make, but the hands you shake.

  • @rseven0
    @rseven0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +598

    It’s just more proof that college is not a genuine qualifier.

    • @MrThePhotoshopper
      @MrThePhotoshopper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This is quite a stupid comment. A SINGULAR college may not be a genuine qualifier of who you are - if only you have been rejected because of a similar debacle. However, anyone good enough to actually get into Yale and lose their spot because of this is guaranteed to be a very successful/bright person and are sure to achieve admissions in many other excellent schools.

    • @TheActiveAssault
      @TheActiveAssault 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Keep saying that. I have two Ivy League degrees

    • @campkira
      @campkira 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well if you suck at your job. Degree mean nothing.

    • @myownmusings342
      @myownmusings342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      As the rich one with glasses said "how much is the degree worth now. Maybe less than you think"

    • @KillerAJ
      @KillerAJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      _in my eye What if you had a doctor who never went to college or medical school, but apprenticed under a doctor for 10 years then took the exam and passed and got licensed? (This option used to be available)

  • @hitokiri_neko
    @hitokiri_neko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    That legacy guy...his definition of donation sounds more like bribery 🤦‍♂️

  • @FlowerThePot
    @FlowerThePot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I never thought about how affirmative action is basically the poor getting an advantage the way the wealthy get an advantage. If you hate affirmative action, you should hate extreme wealth advantage in the admissions process.

    • @jusletursoulglobaby
      @jusletursoulglobaby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol how the hell could you NOT see affirmative action as an initiative intended to balance opportunity? women, white women, were the main beneficiaries of the program and yet its crapped on as if its problematic

    • @FlowerThePot
      @FlowerThePot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Soul Glow Yeah so I definitely saw it as an intention to balance opportunity, but I hadn’t known about college admission scandals. I thought Affirmative Action was simply accounting for the fact that wealthier people have better opportunities.
      My point was that I realized the wealthy also have access to illegal opportunities like paying off college admissions. I realize I didn’t make that clear. Anyway have a good day

  • @nintendo1709
    @nintendo1709 5 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    Although I don't go to Yale, I go to another ivy league school in New England and this situation really makes me confused. It seems like a lot of people hate on Black and Latinx students for getting in because of their race. Yet, it took this situation for a lot of people to realize that rich elites have WAY more power in college admissions than low-SES black students from places like Chicago. Why aren't we looking at the richest people in America to make sure that they don't game the system instead of poor people of color?

    • @alwaysincentivestrumpethic6689
      @alwaysincentivestrumpethic6689 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Agreed

    • @nascentaesthetic952
      @nascentaesthetic952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Bc some people are racist. There are the same people who came up with the myth of the welfare queen. If POC are gaming the welfare system of course they want affirmative action to game their way into college system even though legacy students make up a larger part of the population than students of color.

    • @dre8160
      @dre8160 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think the big issue is that black and latinos get tons of free $$$ from these schools to diversify their school while upper class people are stuck with $70k tuitions :/ i would rather have no affirmative action and use that money for people who are already in that college. Most of my friends and I are stuck with huge loans while poor under qualified students get a lot of free money...its just the way life is and theres nothing we can do about it just look at welfare in america :D live with this or cry about it your whole life lol

    • @Hamlet137475
      @Hamlet137475 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's not poor people of color. More often it's rich people of color that benefit at the expense of ALL poor people. Cory Booker, Barack Obama, they weren't poor. They're considered out of touch even for black people. Remember 2008 election? Obama wasn't considered black enough cause he wasn't from a rough neighborhood. He had to earn his way in but he didn't grow up with the same disadvantages as most blacks. That's why affirmative action is flawed, it's helping the rich still, not the poor with less resources.

    • @nintendo1709
      @nintendo1709 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That might be somewhat true but the majority of black kids I know here at Dartmouth come from low-income/immigrant backgrounds who didn’t have a leg up. If you’re going to get rid of AA, at least do something to help poor kids who don’t even have boots to pull themselves up by.

  • @Exotixa
    @Exotixa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    THE GUY IN GLASSES WAS THE REALEST. Wow. Impressed, and extremely glad out of all of them, someone had their mind in the right place.

    • @vivek27789
      @vivek27789 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is actually a great debater....he was 2 time national high school debate champion...while at yale he won the North American universities debating championship and finished runner up in US universities debating championship and World universities debating championship.

  • @clairegoldman6588
    @clairegoldman6588 5 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    This scandal has been such a mindfuck. I hear if I've gotten into Yale (and other Ivy schools) this week and it's made the whole waiting game so existential.

    • @phillcorrea3903
      @phillcorrea3903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Best of luck with the applications!

    • @jameswhiteley6843
      @jameswhiteley6843 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trust me, you'll get in.

    • @ineedhoez
      @ineedhoez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      What's sad is that you have kids out here killing themselves because of the stress

    • @FacheChanteDeux
      @FacheChanteDeux 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wish you luck, but you have to be realistic. Bribery is ridiculous, but donations from a family with intelligent people one of whom may gain entrance helps the school as a whole. That money pays for programs.

    • @GO-sz1nv
      @GO-sz1nv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Best of luck! If my broke, dumb ass can get in, you've got this! Lmao

  • @embott1
    @embott1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    WASP in glasses just can’t deal with his peers. He is absolutely disaffected. He’s gonna be successful in business, yet go through three failed marriages.

    • @aharris8684
      @aharris8684 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      NOOO! He's going to be just fine.

    • @khoa4762
      @khoa4762 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ur just jealous of him old man

    • @chriselias3881
      @chriselias3881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He's not a wasp. Look at his name. WASP = white anglo-saxon protestant. He is not anglo-saxon he is Nordic/northern European. Anglo-saxon means British. And he very well might be catholic.

    • @loverofmotherearth
      @loverofmotherearth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 "successful in business, yet go through three failed marriages."

    • @embott1
      @embott1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chriselias3881 Well there’s his problem. Catholicism is nuts.

  • @austinanthis4968
    @austinanthis4968 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The interviewer did a great job asking the tough questions. Good job.

  • @abp1400
    @abp1400 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I love the look of the guy at 5:44 when the other guy says his "HS was a lot more homogenous than Yale." He's thinking "Where the hell did u go man?!"

  • @MegaJolaus
    @MegaJolaus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    dude with the glasses is /our guy/

  • @PabloBrown
    @PabloBrown 5 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    Rich guy with the glasses has mad knowledge and wisdom !!

    • @beboplady1542
      @beboplady1542 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      His parents probably had him going to excellent preparatory schools from kindergarten to senior year of a prestigious private High school.

    • @kathleenannmodina-angue4540
      @kathleenannmodina-angue4540 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@beboplady1542 He went to Walt Whitman High school, a PUBLIC school. Also 2 time National Debate champion. Dude earned his spot at Yale.

    • @darklight38
      @darklight38 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kathleenannmodina-angue4540 Yeah he did. Also, why is everyone calling this kid rich? HE WENT TO A PUBLIC HIGHSCHOOL. His parents are probably upper-middle class.

    • @deanna3223
      @deanna3223 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darklight38 lmfao upper middle class is rich and you can still go to a public school and be rich....

  • @spearmethrough
    @spearmethrough 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    the thing is, when you graduate from college, having an ivy league on your resume opens up a lot of doors. no, it may not get you the job, but having that on your resume will for sure get you an interview.

  • @afra2159
    @afra2159 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Omg the interviewer is STUNNING! I'm sorry I had to

  • @joshuawhere
    @joshuawhere 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    "affirmative action for the rich" - great line there.

  • @goodrose4734
    @goodrose4734 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The people that got caught were too poor to donate a library, that's why they had to bribe them.

  • @djdigital3806
    @djdigital3806 5 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    I didn't have the money for college so I went to community college.
    Mom stole my dead dads military benefits, I didn't see a dime of it.
    I got accepted into the Temple University for Electrical Engineering. Couldn't attend because of money.
    But that's okay, today I'm the founder of Electron Mechanical Corporation with my community college education.
    Either you are smart or not, no college can raise your IQ!

    • @joneandi37
      @joneandi37 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Anyone can be smart through work.

    • @sh0werp0wer
      @sh0werp0wer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      _"no college can raise your IQ!"_ Nope, it just lands you the top jobs in the country and/or the White House.

    • @gemlovergirl
      @gemlovergirl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Going to college also helps if you wanted to get into a research field where you need experience working in a lab that you wouldn't get into otherwise without the experience at your school .... but if it's not something amongst those lines.....pretty pointless imo

    • @kiarahoyle1140
      @kiarahoyle1140 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      So we're not gonna talk about his mom stealing his dad's military benefits and gave no shit about him??
      God, I hope you cut contact from her.

  • @suqmaddiqq
    @suqmaddiqq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The amount of praise the "dude with the glasses" is getting is insane.
    Even just someone simply not absolving themselves of their privileges garners so much appraisal and support, especially in America compared to other countries. In my country, he'd be one of many.

  • @acajudi100
    @acajudi100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who are the charity organizations that was the middle crooks, and allowing the parents to deduct the donation from taxes.

  • @penguinsunburn
    @penguinsunburn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Damn, that closing line.

  • @jeiger
    @jeiger 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    6:58 Genius! I've been saying that for years. Employers need to figure out a better way to vet potential employees and their capabilities, other than looking at a degree.

  • @cindysierra90
    @cindysierra90 5 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    Rich guy with glasses *drops mic* at the end

    • @vivek27789
      @vivek27789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He is actually a great debater....he was 2 time national high school debate champion...while at yale he won the North American universities debating championship and finished runner up in US universities debating championship and World universities debating championship.

    • @dragonsaige
      @dragonsaige 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alternative title:

    • @sugondese9325
      @sugondese9325 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vivek27789 do you know his name?

  • @robertschlesinger1342
    @robertschlesinger1342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This sort of thing is extremely common, especially at law schools, even third tier law schools. I have seen wealthy and privileged students register for law school and hardly ever attend school, except to show up for graduation.

  • @zaynalee8270
    @zaynalee8270 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When the young lady said something about “affirmative action of the wealthy” I felt that on a spiritual level.

  • @brodhax6148
    @brodhax6148 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    7:07 boy dropped one. I've never understood why "elite" colleges are better than any other college. Whether you learn about the Law of Gravity from Harvard or South Mississippi U, its not as if Harvard has different or better facts about the Law of Gravity.

    • @bubbles101743
      @bubbles101743 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brodha Sattva They do if the person who discovered said Law is your professor.

    • @brodhax6148
      @brodhax6148 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@bubbles101743 Not really. The things faculty discover are not valuable to you, ultimately. For example a anthropology professor discovers the sex genome of a rare albanian bullfrog.....neat. And why would you spend 1 second of your 50k per year tuition talking about that? Even if you have the greatest math professor on earth whos solved one of the millenium problems, how does that benefit you? Just because he knows more math than any person on earth, you are still going to be learning 2+2 like every other college

    • @wowlover3000
      @wowlover3000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, you are more noticeable outside of college. Being a Yale or Harvard student looks good on your resume

    • @ericwilliams5091
      @ericwilliams5091 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good teachers make a huge difference. Where you may have one teacher that made a difference in your life, Yale can afford to ONLY have those teachers. They can poach the best of the best for their students leaving public universities with what's left.

  • @Lf2e
    @Lf2e 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Dude with the glasses: you were spot on! Great speaking voice but also very realistic.

    • @vivek27789
      @vivek27789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is actually a great debater....he was 2 time national high school debate champion...while at yale he won the North American universities debating championship and finished runner up in US universities debating championship and World universities debating championship.

  • @marcelobonnet544
    @marcelobonnet544 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    It's good they are talking about class differences. This is a topic that rarely gets bring out in college campuses. The country is changing and class is becoming an increasingly important factor. When I went to college, I could see class differences when the rich kids would go on all paid vacations to Cabo, while the middle class. and poor one's would stay behind or do the school service trips to Utah.

  • @smithhoowe
    @smithhoowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The issue with "Ivy" league level universities is largely that, either the student distribution is from wealth, or from poor communities. There is little to no middle class involvement it seems. I got the chance to visit Yale back in 2007, and it was an amazing place, but frankly it was obviously skewed towards a social hierarchy. Going to a public university myself, there are huge differences in resources, class mobility, and job prospects going to a place such as Yale, but a lot of that is due to social constructs built while in school, not so much the degree itself, that just gets you the first $100k paying entry level job in a major city like NY, Boston, or Seattle etc., It gives you a leg up, but only for the first 5 years after graduation. If you take advantage of it though it can change your lifelong trajectory a lot.