Yu-Gi-Oh Forbidden Memories: Defeating Heishin (1st) Legitimately in Campaign Mode
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Thanks to speedrunners on SRL, I remembered about this amazing game from my childhood and all it's fantastic RNG. I decided to go buy it (I think I mooched off my friend's copy all those years) and play it again. After I beat it a couple days ago I decided to make challenges for it.
This challenge is to defeat Heishin (1st) during Campaign Mode using only your game file. You may not trade, use passwords + starchip purchases, or use gameshark. This is particularly difficult because not a lot of good cards are even possible to get early in the game.
I decided to go for Summoned Skull strats because the Job-Change Mirror is accessible from Villager 2 with an S or A-rank win at a 15/2048 chance of obtaining the card. After around 50 S or A rank duels I got the Job-Change Mirror (That's about a 30% chance of happening). I also got the Axe of Despair during this process and some other useful cards. Getting a Kunai of Chain or Sword of Dark Destruction on the other hand has a much higher probability of occuring (34/2048 for Kunai and 16/2048 for Sword) However, it took me a massive 183 duels until I finally got the Kunai of Chain (That's a 1.1% chance of happening) In the video I show off some extremely rare cards that are possible, but very unlikely to get from Joey that I got before getting Kunai with Chain.
After I got the cards I needed, it took 3 tries to beat Heishin. That was a fun challenge. If you feel brave, you can try it too. It may require many hours of grinding to pull it off though.
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1:33 General KENOBI
This game is awesome always loved it always will it's a classic 🙌
this is what happens when you belive in the heart of the cards
kevin mullan oohhh shitt
Yes... if by believing in the heart of the cards you mean exploiting Forbidden Memories awesome fusion system.
I remember one night in the casino , i believe in the heart of the card but i loss 1000 playing black jack. I don't know what happen.
although i win the next week in 5 draw poker so maybe i'am Kaiba because Yugi win always.
kevs musicandstuff if you call heart of the cards beating the shit out of your villager friend 200 times then yes
My biggest takeaway from this video is that you can fuse two Yamis to make Dark Energy... Never knew that XD
you could fuse a lot of magic and trap cards in this game. dian keto + dian keto = megamorph, and i remember wasteland (or was it umi) and black hole created a magic card that destroys all fish monsters
yeah me too i never know it
Electric whip + Metalmorph (Or another electric whip idr) = Raigeki
David Hoch well, I knew it because I get that card by accident when I was throwing away the cards to get next cards I needed
Tim L. It was Umi and Dark Hole that fuse together. It makes Eternal Drought.
couldnt have done it without sparks
***** Raigeki?
***** lol 50 damage
The greatest assistance to any duelist.
Truly the best card in the game
😉
*Heishin:* Did i just lose to a guy with sparks in his deck??
*Seto:* BURRRN
In the actual game, that'd be hilarious.
In Forbidden Memories, Sparks can be fused with Legendary Sword to make Salamandra (it can also be fused with itself to make Hinotama, but that's less useful).
and it can be used with megamorph and get raigeki
then the game proceeds to make you battle him untill you lose
altoid345b ahhh I was wondering about that
Really? I remember the rumor spread in our neighbourhood that if you beat him ten times without losing he will give you an egyptian god lol (sorry for bad english)
@@Metalheadaches nah its a loop till you lose he will challange you over and over till you lose
Yep I can confirm, it's an infinite loop. I think I battled him 50 times in a row before I gave up.
Ya I can confirm it too. He says “not bad boy” and then the game makes you fight him again until you lose. I know this because my friend pimped out my PlayStation memory card with gameshark codes in 2001 when I was in 4th grade lol had all the cards
The entire time he had summoned skull on the field hes praying that he doesn't get raigeki'ed lmao
Heishin also has all five Exodia cards. He can fuck you up when you least expect it
Probably he had to record the duel a dozen of times to win. If the first card of Heishin is MBD or the PUGM it’s done, you lose
He also has the Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon if i remember correctly. So for some time his summoned skull could be defeated
@@dwightsmith3815 Heishin does not have blue eyes ultimate, 1st version of Heishin strongest 2 monster is Meteor B.Dragon and Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth with 3500 attack also he got Megamorph. 2nd version of Heishin got Gate Guardian 3750 attack added. Seto 3rd got Blue Eyes Ultimate
@@KiseiruYoshioka second Hishen does have ultimate dragon. Watched a speed runner 70 hours in on a 100% run fail his run because of it lol
It's very rare that he will drop it though apparently because even the speed runner was cursing the absurdity of it.
yu gi oh grinding memories
Not without the cloning trick using a third memory card. The. First time I remember cheating in something hah
Its True
shitozeruel
funny as fuck HAHAHA
but you will still grind that one card that you wanted
😂😂😂😂😂
"Not bad, boy."
...
More like freaking amazing, dude. I didn't even know it was possible to beat this guy on a first Campaign playthrough without cheating until today. This rocks. :D
Really all you need is the ability to make the summoned skull or even THTD if you have enough dragons treasures.
matthew fitzpatrick
Still pretty cool to me.
CloudMistDragon Yeah, it is still pretty cool...
]-)ΣΔ†]-[
Very interesting. Also, I finally decided a month ago to try and beat Heishin 1st the first time going through Campaign mode. It took two hours of grinding to get the cards I needed (Kunai with Chain, Time Wizard, THTD fusion monsters) and three tries, but I finally did it. The experience was surprisingly rewarding too, because I was able to get through the second part of the game (the tournament) with no grinding at all. I ended up beating the entire game in two days, the shortest time it's ever taken me to finish it. :)
CloudMistDragon
Yeah I have no way of beating the whole game without Meteor B Dragon and abunch of equips. Though, on my 2nd time playing it without cheating of course. I still lose to Heishin 2 because he brings 2 Gate Guardians and none of my meteor B dragons or the fusion to make him ever shows up. Happens like 5 times, I was mad. Makes me want to quit again, especially if Seto 3 pulls out a BEUD on the first turn.
Heishin: Screw your victory I have plot armor.
Heishin: I can do this all day
7:20 the move that turned the tides of the game
Hahahahahaha
I fool really expected to see a strong monster summoned on that timestamp 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Duel Links reference
I'm sure Sparks was mandatory to perform This victory
And yet you only got a clown zombie.
+Orchestra Of Ruin I guess... that's what you get for being a showman. huehue :p
+Orchestra Of Ruin When i was a kid, i thinking if you defeat him, you win a metero black dragon or something.
+Mayks Spark you actually can get one I beat him aswell
The first time i defeated him he gave me crimson sunbird (2300atk)
If you beat this guy fast enough you'll get some really good cards such as meteor b dragon, black skull dragon, skull knight, etc. I know this because I've gotten all these cards by beating him repeatedly in story mode.
Worst part of this battle is you have to lose to that freak. It is suppose to be the road of trials or where it begins. (Or to say simply, the hero loses, then goes through a training montage to kick the freak's ass in the next meeting)
WorstGamerEv3r but sadly hes not even the endboss xD
If it is an rpg game, you may just finish the game by winning at first final boss' encounter
Wich in Yu-Gi-Oh logic is: just having luck while opening your next booster pack.
Yeah, he just challenges you again until you lose. Should have had Seto try to steal the puzzle while you were distracted, leading to it breaking.
WOW the dule monsters rules back in ancient egypt were broken asf
Me: I'm going to normal summon this blue eyes ultimate dragon like a four star monster.
Opponent: shit you got me..
... dule
@@PokemustardtheSecond I was just talkin bout Dulé Hill. American actor and legendary fixer of 2003.
Wow, I never would have thought this was possible. Thanks for clearing up my childhood mystery lol. They should have add a feature where there's an extra cut scene or achievement at the end of a game to congratulate the player for winning against such formidable odds.
I really want this game remaster for new gen....
I agree
+Anderson Badari Try Hearthstone =)
+Doug Dominicali i mean for the good old times you know
some people just remasterized as yugioh forb mem 2. it is amazing try to google it
Play it for free on PC. Get a PSX emulator and download Forbidden Memories .iso
Finally, i was wondering when they'd nerf sparks.
For those who don't know, as well as the Job-change Mirror fusion, if you fuse Embryonic Beast with Time Wizard it makes Summoned Skull as well.
TheLQ-Gaming I just realised that this works because Embryonic Beast is basically a baby. So Time Wizard makes it grow into Summoned Skull. Similar to Dark Magician and Dark Sage. Mind. Blown.
@@batch_2731 mind double blown
Chris Batchelor 😱😱😱
Chris Batchelor Double Shock!!!
@@batch_2731 bind mlown. After all this time i didn't know that fusing summoned skull don't have to use specific cards
I believe if you pressed the Square button when selecting a target to attack it'll go in a 3-D model combat phase. Quite badass for a ps1 game
I love how terrible the graphics are for those cutscenes.lol
@@cosmicrealm1567 But back in 99's it was really cool tho
@@igorbarreto129 By 99 graphics had surpassed this for sure. Still cool though
Almost 20 years later and i had no idea it was possible to beat him the first time.... or fuse 2 yamis xD Pretty impressive!
Forbidden memories Sparks is 4 times worse than regular Sparks. Let that sink in.
how? it's 8k lp like the normal game?
@@1001011011010 Yes but in Forbidden Memories Sparks does 50 damage. In real life Sparks does 200 damage
@@I-Dont-want-a-handle Oh wow, I never played the game and tried to find the spot he used sparks but didn't. Thanks! Wow, 50 is really really low.
It's basically guaranteed people have beaten him before legitimately, I never said I was the frist to do it? However, after a quick search on youtube, no one seems to have uploaded a video of it. There are videos of people beating him with trading/gameshark however,
your a good player bro this game i feel is effing impossible you have a deck that has 1200 ATK monsters at most and the the most easiest person when your doing the elemental shrines come out of the gate at 2300+ they have nothing less really kinda depressing also that you get next to nothing for wins
I believe he farmed some cards/stars before going into the palace
What happens after you defeat him?
Is there a special ending or the story goes as normal?
I beat him first time once. And I got a Meteor B Dragon which was amazing. But after you beat him he just rematches you. I couldn't believe it, I just got real lucky with the cards
Daniel Alexandre the story goes normally,you really need to lose,heishin will force you to duel with you until you lose
*Beginning of battle*
Where's he going with this?
*Summons trump card*
My lord 0_0
Certainly introduced Heishin to the world of strategy.
Yes youtube this is exactly the content I want to watch at 3:36am, and I stopped playing a decade ago, but thanks for still caring.
This game.....lol was such a mind fuck.....the polymerizations you can do with such random cards was crazy lol....I remember I made a list in my notebook to write down the combos ahhaha nonetheless loved the game
AHAHA me too
at one time I succeeded fusioning 5 cards while mashing my joysticks, I thought that was the trick, tried showing off to my friends then it didn't work LMAO.
you wreck him and he says "not bad boy"
Duel starts 3:30
Forbidden Memories should be a new world on YGO Duel Links.
OP :D
Really?
With Forbidden Memories rules :D
With egyptian city xD
I remembered if you're able to beat him within a few turns (get 5 star chips rank) and like more than 30-50 times, you might get Meteor Black Dragon. It's quite a good card with the Attack Power of 3,500
Yep true but low meadow mage drops it too and is much easier to beat
I only beat him once and from the rematch menu but I had lost to him like 80 times. I don't remember how exactly, but I had created about two twin headed thunder dragons and with some power ups. I also turned the field into water. He managed to kill my dragons. Idk how but he was down to 2000 life points while I was down to 1000. I finished him off with that fire lion card that had 2100 attack points. The greatest achievement of my childhood lol. The card I won from him was shitty though smh.
Mountains would have been better option had he not have bunch off Dragons, Thunder and Winged beasts cards but yeah, defeating this asshat must've felt good.
Not bad boy , come on one more game ! You can't really defeat this guy.I remember the first time i play this game , back in 05' and my friend scream hard when i defeat this guy in campaing. I did not understand a shit but i did a miracle in 2005.
No way I'd risk putting Raigeki face down like that. If he plays Harpies Feather Duster you screwed
The AI will protect life points 1st so was no danger as the field was empty
the merger of Summoned Skull came in good time .
Chivere
Mi v
Bueno xd Dr
No hubo bjo bb CV, xd.
The credits should just role after he says: “Not bad boy...”
Spark OP
xD
loool
I was once lucky enough to win against him too in one of my playthrough without cheat, I used Umi on my first turn, and then I fused a Twin-headed Thunder Dragon + dark energy to make it have 3800 atk on 2nd turn, I think he gave me a flame cerebrus for that win? I can't really remember.. it was around 10 years ago when that miracle happen
Very well played man
I believe you cannot equip dark energy on ttd
i played against him in reduels as a kid. after around 40 tries i got a lucky win and got a megamorpf from him o.O
@@motaaaa Incorrect
That was epic! You definitely need all the right knowledge to even pull this off.
Sadly the game just says "I admit, you're too good. Sorry, but you're supposed to lose so we can get this story going, we got nothing prepared for this turnabout." xD
Sparks LMAOOO
Hahahahaha
Just to deliver the burn
Had to see it with my own eyes
Sparks OP af
I remember playing this game so many years ago & I remember how awful it was to beat this duel & I only had weak cards! Not a single win....I gotta tell you. But this shows how it was done. This was a great video to view. Thanks for posting this. :)
The concept for fusing was so great in this game, too bad there’s literally no way to use it today lol
such an epic soundtrack...
then you write to Konami the game was too short give me my moneys back. And they are like HOW THE FUCK did you beat HEISHIN ??
Ufc nexus haha XD
Looks like you had the heart of the cards
I remember beating him one time by absolute fluke totally legitimately I started with some really easy combos to make twin headed thunder dragons and boost them. I was crushed that it made me immediately vs him again and instantly lose.
I think that's the point. Even if you beat him in campaign mode early on, he refuses to accept it and will challenge you indefinitely until you lose. But if you're lucky, you can score a powerful monster
honestly im impress
me too O_o
Hi, impress, I am Dad.
Hi dad, I am gay.
chaval chavalon you realize he endlessly challenges you until you lose
Zenpai mN sooo?
Woah, I remember trying to stall Heishin just to get a Twin Head Dragon + equips. dang nostalgic
This game was all about twin headed thunder dragon it seems.
Every Enemy: I have a powerful deck, you can't do shit against me!
Every Hardboiled Veteran Player: Twin Headed Thunder Dragon with Beast Fangs, Dark Energy, Dragon Treasure, Horn of Light, Bright Castle, Megamorph and Invigoration.
- Are you really in charge here?
always believed heishin was unbeatable & the fact he acknowledges defeat but will never accept it must make each & every victory taste so sweet😌 thank you for answering one of my major life questions!🙏🏼
He keeps making you play him until he wins 🤣🤣🤣
🤣 but at least we can beat him though 🤣 also how ironic he got a clown zombie for winning
In ancient King of Games, tributing doesn't exist. You better start with good OP cards.
Or fuse monsters to get OP cards
*500 playtime hours later*
Finally, off to your room pharaoh!
Rank D ? For beating someone with a deck full of high dmg/def cards?? Wtf ?
"Not bad, boy"
to get s-rank with attacking you need to finish the battle within 3 or so turns without taking damage.
Ya, this game was lowkey retarded. You could beat Seto 2/3 or Nitemare with this deck and still get a Rank D and trashy card
@@nathanaelaldred8885 You simply dont know how the game works. Just a bit of reasearch and you know how to get the S ranks.
You can get a guaranteed S-Rank if you deplete the opponents deck, well TEC clear. Or you could do the POW clear by reducing opponent's LP to 0 in 3 turns or less, not (attempt) fuse more than twice, and use max 1 spell/trap. Anything more and you won't get S-Rank (POW).
@0:58 " This bird is a precursor to disaster !! " jajaj el mismisimo tatue
You can set in face-down attack position? Holy crap.
7:25 - 7:29 I love how in sync that was XD
I welcome your calm and courage because even with the right cards to defeat him, you still need to draw them, and it's really hard to not become nervous against an opponent of who his weakest cards has 2500 ATK without fusing. I didn't have any equip card or the way to summon Sumonned Skull to that time, my strongest card was Jirai Gumo and it couldn't match his beasts. As a child i tough the only way to get the strongest cards of the game was to earn 999 999 starchips for each, boring me to death, even if i love Duel Monsters, even tough it is useless to beat him at this part of the game, it's still an exploit.
Begyn Anthony Not really.
What do you mean by it being an exploit? And how do you get really good cards without spending days playing this game? That's what happened to me and I eventually gave up wasting my life away
The Sheriff Just what i said, it's nearly impossible to beat him at the beginning of the game, there's too much difference at strenght ! And you are right to not became a total nolife by playing day and night just to obtain good cards, even i as a pro gamer didn't do it, just several hours somee days per week, a long time ago.
Yeah I really wanted to beat it but never could get the strong enough cards. Now that I see TH-cam videos of people just fusing weaker cards and using magic cards I realize that's basically the only way to beat it unless you literally play 24/7 for weeks obtaining stars and all
In loving memory of Benny Teso, salesman dead due to damn corona.
This is 4 u Benny!
Heishin: Damn it! I didn't get a chance to summon the Exodia the Forbidden One... *Was off by one last piece of its body part*
>.
How could I not know those 2 could combine to become summoned skull..... That monster/card is cool as hell to me when I was a kid.
NOT BAD BOIII
I like how he says not bad boy. Mannn if this was a 2019 rpg I’d hope to god there was a dialogue choice saying, “you cheating mofo” lol
Not bad, boy...
Not bad, boy
the first player that plays without twin headed thunder dragon 👏👏 give that dude a golden card
Yes he did (?)
i remember before learning about the Meadow Mage, beating the game was basically me getting lucky with Summoned Skull. Somehow felt more satisfying and earned that way...
joetri10 I remember getting Dark Magician from him and crying because I could not beat the game without Gameshark.
joetri10 I remember getting Dark Magician from him and crying because I could not beat the game without Gameshark.
+joetri10 I was always getting lucky with my twin head thunder dragon and dragon treasures and all that... I got mine up to 9999 attack once :D
If this ever got a port for PS5 or something, there'd be an achievement for this like Snake Water had for shooting Ocelot
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT ?!
+Henley n he challenges you again, and again and forever! so the game only continues if you lose
+Henley n "Not bad, child. But you are mistaken if you think that's enough to defeat me!" Or something like that. Then you fight against him again.
oh okay ! thanks
That such bullshit hahaha
You lost and begins again 😂
D ? D?!! Are you kidding? That was a very sweet victory you got there. I think you deserve more, friend. That cpu was just jealous and underestimated your power.
Really lucky he didnt hit you with a raigeki or a shadow spell. He’ll do that sometimes if he has a faceup monster already on board
He was magic locked I think.
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What do you mean magic locked? No such thing in this game
@@totalwartimelapses6359 There is.
@
Ok then explain what it is to me
@@totalwartimelapses6359 www.neoseeker.com/forums/3085/t2157487-suicide-glitch-enemy-magic-manipulation-explained/
Look at the "Enemy Magic Manipulation"
Never knew summoned skull could be fused so early in the game, very nice man
Twin Head Thunder Dragon Million million people expect😂😂
I thought he was gonna fuse Twin headed thunder dragon and use a bunch of dragon treasure on it. That's what I did to defeat heishein.
7:22 Stop, man, You are killing him!
me kid expected a different storyline of this outcome
280 cards in your chest before even getting to heishin 1 is just an insnane amount of grinding even for this game, congrats
youve got to put up a video of what happens after this
@BrianMp16, I've been playing Yu-Gi-Oh for years, I'm very impressed, you obviously know how this game works. I gotta say man this is the best video I have ever seen. ~ Travis.
You know, it would be so amazing if this unlocked some cool shit in the game. How many years would have been taken so that we finally would find it out.
The coolest secret in this game is Low Meadow Mage
Seto 2nd is a close second though
@@nathanaelaldred8885 seto 2 was really cool, even though he didnt drop shit, it was surprising
Using sparks just makes this video perfect
Como eu tenho saudades desse jogo! Nostalgia pura
Wow, you did what I thought was impossible since my childhood and beat Heishin with legitimate cards! Bravo, sir!
Game like: "Congrats, you've won a Game you were suppossed to lose. Here is you're reward: the incredibile, the mighty and scaaaary, CLOWN ZOMBIE"
I see some people say that this is an infinite loop. That Heishin will just keep rechallenging you until you lose. I can just imagine Atem after each win shaking the puzzle like "Work damn you stupid puzzle"
Not bad, boy.
I played this game back in the 2001 and always relied on two headed dragon plus bright castle/dragon treasure to do whatever on the game. Then discovered the meteor dragon to fuse the meteor B dragon making things a bit easier... seeing Summoned Skull in this video which I didn't know it was fusable makes me want to time travel and insist my 13 yo me to try harder and dont hate fiend monsters. Great work dude gratz!
This game was fucking hard. Never finished it
I really depends a lot on luck, really... To drop the cards from the enemies and to draw then in the duel.
Jordan Sharpe Have you finished the game? In the last sequence you have to defeat the labyrinth mage, Sebek, Neku, Heishing, Seto and the final boss who have a final form, one after another without losing. That's a total if 7 duels to win and the only good cards you can get on the game are the Meteor B. Dragon, Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon and equipments for them and Raigeki. I basically had to be discard all my hand to find Meteor B. Dragon, a Megamorph and a Bright Castle or a Dragon Treasure...
MAN! That was hard... It was very pleasing though.
You can get Blue-eyes White Dragon, Metalzoa, Skull Knight, Zoa, Sanga of the Thunder, Kazejin, Suijin, Dark Magician, you can buy Seiyaryu, Twin-headed Thunder Dragon as a card, 3 Megamorphs, 3 Bright Castles, 3 Dark Energy's, 3 times Raigeki or Crush Card, Beast Fangs and Meteor B. Dragon. You will win any duel with those cards, unless you're very unlucky.
If you think this is bad... you've not experienced Yugioh Reshef of Destruction
Summoned Skull beating Black Skull Dragon: "Hey, dad"
Lol i beat him too once when i had the game on ps1 days xD
I remember him saying he cant lose then the duel started again and i got pwnd
I remember trying to do this for hours when I was a kid - I refused to let Heishin beat me.
And then when I beat him? Didn't even matter - no alternate ending, just a forced repeat.
Thanks game! XD
Also, 8:29 "D Rank Duel Skill" (raises middle finger at my copy of the game)
I remember even using the same strategy too! Summon Skull fusion + equips.
As well as being annoyed I got a low Duel Skill Rank.
Good times...? Yeah, good times.
dude tht was awesome. Thank you for not using meteor b dragon or something like tht but instead fusing.
Jam Kon this is Heishin 1st. You haven’t had the chance to duel Meadow Mage for MBD yet
@@CorinofArchenland Or Jono 2nd either. I got my first MBD from him
lol I love how he fused 2 spells together
yyyaaaayyyy! friendship! heart of the cards! spirit! serenity's eyes! tea's boobs!
but seriously man, well done. thought this was a troll or something.
I used to think this was the only way to win the game and I would grind for shitty cards and lose anyway lol
That game is beyond broken....
Ugly mofos. XD
Impoossibruuuuu
Asta con embrionic beast y time wizard se puede sacar a summoned skull de que hay maneras de ganar legalmente las hay solo ay que saber armar bien las fusiones y equipos
Yamato Dragon Scroll fusion was the most Hail-Mary play and I used it a lot, it was sick. I was pretty disappointed when I played later games and you couldn't just fuses tons of stuff together.
It was pretty bonkers that half the electric monsters in the game fused into Thunder Dragon, and then another one would make Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon. It was the easiest high power card to summon.
True men don't use sparks, so it is not legit to me.
Yeah man that shits too broken try playing without cheat cards
This shit was so hard man remember nearly having a heart attack when I done it
So... what happens if you do win compared to when you lose?
You must fight again, until you lose. I did win him once too.
..so many options that game can offer.. humpf...
i know you all are brazilians... i can see by your names.
He just challenges you to another card game until you lose.
+ruth mcnally yup
If you win, Heishin will duel you again and again until you lose
One thing my brothers and I did is farm strong cards. We created a new game on a second memory card and traded over the good ones. At one point we even got a blue eyes white dragon. Beated Heishin twice.