The Universal Christ Short Summary (TLDR)

This is a concise summary, or "Too Long, Didn't Read", or Richard Rohr's The Universal Christ. If you want to see more, I also have a longer summary on my channel.

[@williamjacobsen2291]

"Jesus was the human manifestation of Christ." Okay, but in John when Jesus says I am in the Father and the Father is in me where do we find Christ? It seems to me that John uses the Spirit language intentionally,, doesn't he?

[@williamjacobsen2291]

How is the "living Christ" distinguished from the Holy Spirit? It seems to me that much of the Universal Christ could and has already been identified with the Spirit? Take Christ in Jesus for example. How is that to be distinguished from the Spirit in Jesus?

[@williamoarlock8634]

'Christ' is half Greek sophistry and half Messianic myth.

[@vinceendris]

ok

[@williamjacobsen2291]

"In the beginning was the word or the christ or the logos and the word was with god." I don't mind calling that the Christ, but why? In the beginning was Sophia, wisdom, too. And in creation "the Spirit was hovering over the formless void." It feels too tied up to me. I think I'd rather have the ends to be a little looser.

[@vinceendris]

I just started posting again, so I just saw these comments. I think the overall thrust of what he is trying to do is to show the divine side of nature. That is, not just "God became human," but "God became matter." As to "why this is important," he would say it is because we limit Christ if we talk about it as though it were only present in Jesus. There is a longer version of this video on my channel. Maybe that one will give more insight (It been a while since I watched it, ha.)

[@williamjacobsen2291]

@@vinceendris And so he calls the Divine side of the creation "Christ"? Isn't that just pulling a word out of the Greek NT World and giving it a new meaning? Isn't " Christ" Greek for Messiah?

[@vinceendris]

@@williamjacobsen2291 Yes and Yes. He would say, theologically, the word "Christ" means, "the word becomes flesh," regardless of what it means historically. Maybe a better title would have been, "the Universal Logos."

[@williamjacobsen2291]

@@vinceendris Thanks, Vince

[@williamoarlock8634]

'Christos' and 'Sophia' are Greek words describing fantasies and non-reality.