@@sandersfarmvids repayments per year would probably be less than the price of the plastic but if your doing all these bales yourself. Ye have the man power and the machinery and the system.....drive on. Be interesting to get a few quotes though.
Good vid I do around 2k bales a year and the best thing about it is you have a product that is easy to sell. Any surplus end of the year can be sold on easily.
Wow. I really don’t want to be the guy who says just build a clamp but I’m struggling to see the benefits of this. The most obvious being the massive cost of plastic. Then there’s yard space as you could fit three cuts of clamp silage in the same area of one cut of bales. I don’t think you’d need any extra men as you looked to have one on the baler, one loading bales, one leading, one unloading and one stacking which if you chopped would give you one on the forager, three trailer men and one on the clamp and because you would get it done in three days it would save on costs further. Yes the forager would be an investment but ultimately a second hand machine or a trailed one would drastically reduce that. Never mind the labour of removing the wrap everyday during the winter and then disposing of it.
We have moved to an all bales system in a smaller scale for a number of reasons: In my opinion bales are only more expensive on the day you make them, if you take into account the lower DM loss with bales as apposed to a silo face, (especially a large one) the additional cost of wrap is quickly counteracted with the savings in silage and land base needed. Currently we are feeding a mix of this year's first, second cut and last year's third cut. Plus last year's second cut to beef animals and later third cut to the dry cows. That would be 5 clamp faces open to make the best use of all forages available. On a multi cut or short interval cutting system, the lower yields per cut brings bales slightly lower than the cost of clamping as you are paying in volume as apposed to per hour or acre. Not everyone will agree but thought I'd highlight some of the reasons why we choose to bale our silage.
@@Tullyvernon Would it not then be best to bale the amount you will have left over at the end of the year on average (or 150% of it) and put the rest in the clamp? Is having both systems in tandem much more expensive/complex?
@@kwoltekublai3337 That would be a good option to maximize the use of the existing clamps. In our situation when we have all the equipment for making and feeding bales we like to get the most use from them rather than bringing in a contractor to do part or have to buy our own silage equipment as well. This incoming bale wrap prices may change things but usually I am happy that any additional costs with bales are well covered in the savings in DM loss etc.
Bloody hell, breaking into a sweat just watching. We do about 160 first cut and that’s enough for me 😂😂😂. See you like the pivot steers bet your on pin and cone fittings 👍. You must buy bale wrap by the lorry load. Enjoyed watching, thanks
tidy stack , tidy job , yes lots of money tied up in plastic and if recycling becomes a higher cost then .........? we priced it all up 25 years ago having been making bales since 81 , bagging 2000 a year then onto wrapping from 1986....there was nothing it it cost wise back then over a 20 year period ..we are on a rented farm so wasnt appropriate to build a huge clamp. the suckler cows outwinter so its handy to get bales to them wherever they are and there is a burn runs right through the steading.. so we continued .i have only a small portion of the stock we had back then and the bales are convenient and suit me fine too........pros and cons to both systems i think ........either way an impressive video to watch ,nice to see a slick operation ,well done to all
@@MrScalesie we use 3 trailers, one being loaded, one traveling and one being unloaded so the wrapper never stops so there is no way apart from 2 wrappers that could speed it up. Some of our fields are steep so bales are rested against banks and walls so a chaser couldn’t get to them
Fantastic work and video. I am not a fan of music in videos normally but in this video, yes, great choice and spot on. Sounds like Jean Michel Jarre to me. You deserve more the 2,100 subs too. Top regards, Jon in North Yorkshire!
FIRST TIME WATCHING I CHECKED OUT YOUR OTHER VIDEOS WE USED TO MAKE MILK IN THE U.S. I THOUGHT ABOUT YOUR MILK MARKET I LOOKED UP THE ISLE OF MAN OVER 80,000 PEOPLE I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE A PROBLEM SELLING YOUR MILK OR GETTING PAID WHAT IT IS WORTH I LOOKED UP THE ISLE OF MAN YOUR LAND SEEMS TO LAY OUT NICE YOUR CLIMATE IS NICE IT SEEMS TO BE A VERY PLEASANT PLACE TO LIVE AND TO FARM I AM GOING TO KEEP WATCHING IF I CAN NOT GO THERE I CAN AT LEAST SEE IT
Is the brighter plastic better to preserve the silage? Here in Ireland it’s getting more difficult to get contractors when you want them and they find it hard getting drivers.
No real difference in plastic colour, we just ran out of black. One of the reasons we do bales is that we know we will get the contractor when we want him
@@sandersfarmvids don't let the grass go to 10 bales to the acre. It cost good money to put grass in a bale so better put the good stuff in them. Keltic trailers are the way to go. Saves labour something unreal
That's a lot of bales. How many rolls of wrap did you use? To build a clamp would mean a big investment in machinery to collect the grass. Would imagine baler and wrapper costs less per hour than trailers, loading wagons or a chopper? Would you get all the grass in those bales in a clamp the same size as the Bale storage area? Loved the video, especially the part with footage next to tedder rotor.
We are going to price up changing to clamp but it’s not going to be cheap. A huge pad of concrete with drains and collection tank (££££???). A trailed forager ( would want our own because would want to do it when we wanted) to do our acreage 60k, a 2nd hand 300hp tractor to run that size of forager (69k), silage trailers, buck rake, shear grab, feed wagon...the list goes on. I like to stick a camera where other people have not!
It’s for dairy cows. We have a very simple system where we just put bales in front of the cows. The long fibre of the bales is very good for the cows rumens and we have a really high butterfat %
@@sandersfarmvids I know about bales being good for cows rumens, been herdsman/manager for nearly 16 years. When you say you have really high butterfat, do you have Jerseys then?
Good job! I have big problems with birds who damage my silage bales, specially in the first period after wrapping. Do you have this kind of problem? I think they are looking for some bugs… Could black wrap solve this problem? Thanks!
Since we stack the bales on their ends we haven’t had any issues with birds pecking them and we have a lot of crows about. We also use 6 layers of wrap for added protection
Get a. 22 rifle and even if you miss they will piss off. Way cheaper than shotgun shells. Had a serious problem with crows for 25yrs as in 600+ doing alot of damage to bales and organic oats pre harvest. Set up target board one day fired about 30 shots to zero the scope with the intention of doing some crow sniping. Next day all gone and never returned. Didn't have to kill one. Think the rifle noise did the job.
I’m more intrigued how you got 10 bales to the acre ?? We baled our place in Tasmania and only got 280 bales from 120 acres? I know different grass will effect the numbers, but did you fertilise with anything out of the ordinary to get such a massive number?
Just 250kg/ha of N some prilled lime and a generous helping of slurry. We had some crazy reseeds which were producing over 13 bales/ha. Weather came right at the right time too. My dad is desperate to move to Tasmania!
4000 bales. And a stationery wrapper needing 2 loaders to take off and put on the bales. Alot of unnecessary work. A fusion would save a massive amount of work.
If you want to make top quality bale silage you wrap at the stack. moving wrapped bales after theyve sagged in the field is a recipe for disaster. we dont hole any in our stack, moving 4000 bales after theyve been wrapped is going to be slow and a lot more likelihood of damaging them
It's all in you're head. The new fusion baler that uses plastic instead of netting is the new way to go. Their is no waste whatsoever and fusion bales holds their shape. Pit silage is the best for large acreage of silage.
good video, dunno why people always tell you "jUsT bUiLd A cLaMp!!!" its whatever suits the farm best, not what suits your mind. only downside of this i can think is the unwrapping and the plastic waste, otherwise seems like a decent solution.
Awesome!! We bale anywhere’s between 1000-1500 bales a year but wrap it with an inline wrapper. The rows get long and you can’t stack them up high but we use less plastic than individual wrapping. Too bad you guys couldn’t put up an upright silo. They save a ton of space but again you’d have to buy all the chopping stuff.
A lot of our rented field are about 5k from farm with small country lanes and crossing one of the busiest roads on the island so not practical for loads of big silage trailers. Half our own silage land is a bit on the steep side for trailers. Also don’t want to be in a queue for the contractor as we have small weather windows on the island. We are going to price up changing to clamp this year as the plastic is an issue.
@@sandersfarmvids Top class production Mr Sanders. Which part of the plastic is an issue ? Cost or recycling? I make all bales and the cost of both has not increased much this year.
@@sandersfarmvids I understand that, I don't wrap in the field either. Just saves so much time inline wrapping. But I guess every operation is different.
Forage wagon is the way to go. 2 would easily do 100 acres a day. However more importantly for you is the the fact that it gives a longer chop so would assist in keeping your butterfat up.
There are many benefits. You can bale small amounts at a time if you without having to continually open a clamp. You can feed them without having a clamp face to worry about going off. The long fibre in a bale is much better for cows health and gives you better butterfat levels in your milk
Not sure if you have watched Cole the cornstar but in one of his recent videos they have a bale trailer that u slide 8 or 10 bales into it but with one push of a lever they all unload in a line instantly It’s very fast if you’ve a fast tractor or good keep for the field. I’m a first time viewer and absolutely lovin this video!
Probably won't be long before wrap is banned altogether. Being a farmer myself there's a hell of alot of plastic waste for a bale of bloody silage. Even more waste for a square bale just for horse haylage etc.
Here in sweden the kuhn vbp has starter to be more and more popular. Since the one with belts kan press the bale all the way from the core they get the same density all the way. And with the combination of that and the 3d wrapping they hold their shape even one year after. Worked at a farm up in northern sweden (where I live) a few years ago and was really happy with the bales the kuhn made
You can’t hold chopped bales together with twine and I haven’t seen any modern manufacturers offer that system for a long time. We would also have to cut all the strings off whereas we have a machine that will cut the plastic and net wrap and hold it
The problem with the bales each 1 is an individual if they get row or vermin attack uhave to repair each 1 with the clampu have just 1 massive clamp much much cheaper less headaches u also save on panadol
Serious video 👍🏼 Where are you guys based and what kind of farm are you running that requires 4000 bales, from first cut? How much will you feed out over winter? Thanks from Éire 👍🏼
you forget that a clamp or pit has to be covered and sealed too. So plastic and tires, all the packing. then at feedout you have to keep using up your exposed face or it spoils.
@@rv-eb3wu That's true, but the vinyl sheets used are a one time purchase, and the sealing part isn't that complicated. You could always build a mechanical clamp to avoid all of that. Honestly with that much silage, they're making very good money. My buddy owns and operates an 1100ac grass silage farm, and they make 2mil+ per year off of it. Aside from machinery and supplies.
@@therickening7323 bales are also easier to sell so say someone wants 40ton and a bale is say 2ton that is much easier to load then 40ton of loose stuff....(40ton random figure)
The amount of money being spent in wrap, you could build a clamp 😂
I don’t think you realise how much a huge pad of concrete and all the silage machinery needed would cost
@@sandersfarmvids repayments per year would probably be less than the price of the plastic but if your doing all these bales yourself. Ye have the man power and the machinery and the system.....drive on. Be interesting to get a few quotes though.
@@billabong9215 yes we will do some maths later I think
Doesn't matter how much less a clamp would cost.... bales presrve the grass a hell of alot more. There's alot of your money there.
Bales are easier sold than clamped silo ....
Good vid I do around 2k bales a year and the best thing about it is you have a product that is easy to sell.
Any surplus end of the year can be sold on easily.
Greetings from the USA. We turn our grass in to silage in our bunker silos. Great video none the less
Quite the tool you've turned the valtra into! Brilliant video 💪🏴
Isle of Man is best place for life in Europe but i did not know there were big farms out there. Beauty isle. Greetings from Poland.
Hard work deserves respect. With respect from Azerbaijan 🇦🇿👍
Wow. I really don’t want to be the guy who says just build a clamp but I’m struggling to see the benefits of this. The most obvious being the massive cost of plastic. Then there’s yard space as you could fit three cuts of clamp silage in the same area of one cut of bales. I don’t think you’d need any extra men as you looked to have one on the baler, one loading bales, one leading, one unloading and one stacking which if you chopped would give you one on the forager, three trailer men and one on the clamp and because you would get it done in three days it would save on costs further. Yes the forager would be an investment but ultimately a second hand machine or a trailed one would drastically reduce that. Never mind the labour of removing the wrap everyday during the winter and then disposing of it.
We have moved to an all bales system in a smaller scale for a number of reasons:
In my opinion bales are only more expensive on the day you make them, if you take into account the lower DM loss with bales as apposed to a silo face, (especially a large one) the additional cost of wrap is quickly counteracted with the savings in silage and land base needed. Currently we are feeding a mix of this year's first, second cut and last year's third cut. Plus last year's second cut to beef animals and later third cut to the dry cows. That would be 5 clamp faces open to make the best use of all forages available.
On a multi cut or short interval cutting system, the lower yields per cut brings bales slightly lower than the cost of clamping as you are paying in volume as apposed to per hour or acre.
Not everyone will agree but thought I'd highlight some of the reasons why we choose to bale our silage.
@@Tullyvernon Would it not then be best to bale the amount you will have left over at the end of the year on average (or 150% of it) and put the rest in the clamp? Is having both systems in tandem much more expensive/complex?
@@kwoltekublai3337 That would be a good option to maximize the use of the existing clamps. In our situation when we have all the equipment for making and feeding bales we like to get the most use from them rather than bringing in a contractor to do part or have to buy our own silage equipment as well. This incoming bale wrap prices may change things but usually I am happy that any additional costs with bales are well covered in the savings in DM loss etc.
Bloody hell, breaking into a sweat just watching. We do about 160 first cut and that’s enough for me 😂😂😂. See you like the pivot steers bet your on pin and cone fittings 👍. You must buy bale wrap by the lorry load. Enjoyed watching, thanks
Great video, and great kit. Stacking at its finest right there!.
tidy stack , tidy job , yes lots of money tied up in plastic and if recycling becomes a higher cost then .........? we priced it all up 25 years ago having been making bales since 81 , bagging 2000 a year then onto wrapping from 1986....there was nothing it it cost wise back then over a 20 year period ..we are on a rented farm so wasnt appropriate to build a huge clamp. the suckler cows outwinter so its handy to get bales to them wherever they are and there is a burn runs right through the steading.. so we continued .i have only a small portion of the stock we had back then and the bales are convenient and suit me fine too........pros and cons to both systems i think ........either way an impressive video to watch ,nice to see a slick operation ,well done to all
I'm sure a clamp would be more economical, but damn is this satisfying
Have you considered buying a baler that wraps too? It would leave one step in the process out.
No. We have a very quick system and moving them when wrapped is not the best thing to do
Maybe they can't because they are on PS 4 lol.
@@christiandietz6341 FS19 Vanilla has a baler that wraps
A+ on music, content, and editing....keep up good work
Absolutely love your baling videos and this 1 is brilliant, fantastic shots. Keep those videos coming, you have great footage
Glad to see one man wasn't stuck on the wrapper the whole time😉
I'm just wondering why you don't have a bale chaser something like the bridgeway or pronar would make sence for your operation imo
We don’t strap the bales on so why would we need one?
@@sandersfarmvids self loading bale chaser be quicker
@@MrScalesie we use 3 trailers, one being loaded, one traveling and one being unloaded so the wrapper never stops so there is no way apart from 2 wrappers that could speed it up. Some of our fields are steep so bales are rested against banks and walls so a chaser couldn’t get to them
I can't believe the amount of work and effort ye lads put into making 4k bale's very impressive 👍
Madness how ye dont have a silage pit look at the amount of extra work handling all those bales! even just to wrap them 🙄
McHale balers 🇮🇪 represented with pride
My first thought! 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 🇮🇪
Fantastic work and video. I am not a fan of music in videos normally but in this video, yes, great choice and spot on. Sounds like Jean Michel Jarre to me.
You deserve more the 2,100 subs too.
Top regards,
Jon in North Yorkshire!
Great video. Always look forward to your silage videos. 👍
Thanks, it always opens up some serious debate when I put them on, not many people do what we do
FIRST TIME WATCHING I CHECKED OUT YOUR OTHER VIDEOS WE USED TO MAKE MILK IN THE U.S.
I THOUGHT ABOUT YOUR MILK MARKET I LOOKED UP THE ISLE OF MAN OVER 80,000 PEOPLE I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE A PROBLEM SELLING YOUR MILK OR GETTING PAID WHAT IT IS WORTH I LOOKED UP THE ISLE OF MAN YOUR LAND SEEMS TO LAY OUT NICE YOUR CLIMATE IS NICE
IT SEEMS TO BE A VERY PLEASANT PLACE TO LIVE AND TO FARM I AM GOING TO KEEP WATCHING IF I CAN NOT GO THERE I CAN AT LEAST SEE IT
Is the brighter plastic better to preserve the silage? Here in Ireland it’s getting more difficult to get contractors when you want them and they find it hard getting drivers.
No real difference in plastic colour, we just ran out of black. One of the reasons we do bales is that we know we will get the contractor when we want him
Thats because nobody wants 2 work 4 a fiver a hour🤣🤣
Love the vid we just dit our first hay cut in square bales have about 600 of them and i find that already more work than i would like
Questions....
Are the bales for sale or own use?
How far away are the fields from the yard?
Bales are all for our own use. Furthest field is about 6km away. Have to navigate busy country roads though!
@@sandersfarmvids don't let the grass go to 10 bales to the acre. It cost good money to put grass in a bale so better put the good stuff in them. Keltic trailers are the way to go. Saves labour something unreal
@@mrstr8pipes no heads in it it was pretty good stuff
That's a lot of bales. How many rolls of wrap did you use? To build a clamp would mean a big investment in machinery to collect the grass. Would imagine baler and wrapper costs less per hour than trailers, loading wagons or a chopper? Would you get all the grass in those bales in a clamp the same size as the Bale storage area? Loved the video, especially the part with footage next to tedder rotor.
We are going to price up changing to clamp but it’s not going to be cheap. A huge pad of concrete with drains and collection tank (££££???). A trailed forager ( would want our own because would want to do it when we wanted) to do our acreage 60k, a 2nd hand 300hp tractor to run that size of forager (69k), silage trailers, buck rake, shear grab, feed wagon...the list goes on. I like to stick a camera where other people have not!
Is this for dairy or beef? What are the advantages for you doing bales over clamp silage? Cracking video amazing achievement by you all!!
It’s for dairy cows. We have a very simple system where we just put bales in front of the cows. The long fibre of the bales is very good for the cows rumens and we have a really high butterfat %
@@sandersfarmvids I know about bales being good for cows rumens, been herdsman/manager for nearly 16 years. When you say you have really high butterfat, do you have Jerseys then?
No we have Holsteins, montbelliarde, Swedish red, brown Swiss and British Friesian. We regularly get butter fats if 5.5%
@@sandersfarmvids dam that’s bloody impressive, what is your protein like? What’s your SCC and bactoscan like?
Just imagine, cows are going to turn that all into manure ..... oh my colon aches just thinking about it! Awesome vid!
Not taking plastic bags in the supermarket seems ridiculous to me when i see this.... Is there realy no other way to store the grass?
That's some mighty fine stacking so neat tidy
Good job!
I have big problems with birds who damage my silage bales, specially in the first period after wrapping.
Do you have this kind of problem?
I think they are looking for some bugs…
Could black wrap solve this problem?
Thanks!
Since we stack the bales on their ends we haven’t had any issues with birds pecking them and we have a lot of crows about. We also use 6 layers of wrap for added protection
If the bale is wrapped wit black and white wrap birds wont touch them but I'm not sure if it's just the 2 in 1(bale and wrap)balers can do that though
black and whit are a nono to birds magpies come to mind birds see them and they are gone miles
Get a. 22 rifle and even if you miss they will piss off. Way cheaper than shotgun shells. Had a serious problem with crows for 25yrs as in 600+ doing alot of damage to bales and organic oats pre harvest. Set up target board one day fired about 30 shots to zero the scope with the intention of doing some crow sniping. Next day all gone and never returned. Didn't have to kill one. Think the rifle noise did the job.
Don't mean to be that guy but how do you get 10 bales of 1 acre
New leys, fertiliser, slurry and perfect growing conditions. One field was nearly 19 bales an acre!
I’m more intrigued how you got 10 bales to the acre ?? We baled our place in Tasmania and only got 280 bales from 120 acres? I know different grass will effect the numbers, but did you fertilise with anything out of the ordinary to get such a massive number?
Just 250kg/ha of N some prilled lime and a generous helping of slurry. We had some crazy reseeds which were producing over 13 bales/ha. Weather came right at the right time too. My dad is desperate to move to Tasmania!
In how many days you make a Bales after you cut the grass???
If we cut on a Monday afternoon we would pick up late morning wednesday
What about using a using a big baler like a Krone BigPack and wrapping them. More dense, less bales, wrap, transport, etc. Same feed quality.
Am I the only person in the world who’d rather listen to the sound of the machinery than damn music?
Drones don’t record sound!!
are you not worried about lifting with spike? It will create air pocket. Seems like not a problem?
We spike onto and off the trailer and have had no issues. Our bales win the silage analysis competitions so can’t be bad
@@sandersfarmvids how many wraps of netwrap you put on bales?
@@artur8403 we don’t use netwrap anymore we are putting two layers of plastic film on
Wow that’s amazing, how many days did it take you guys to bale 4000 bales from 400 acres ? , because that is one major undertaking thing to do.
We didn’t do it all in one go as rain interrupted us. It probably took a full week in total
Would a fusion be a better job for ye?
No interest in wrapping in the field
Very impressive. Why round bales? Would square bales not be an option for this amount?
The thought of having to cut open all those bales has me breaking out in hives. What do you do with the wrap once it's taken off?
We use a bale shear so don’t have to get off the handler. Plastic goes to an incinerator to produce electric
What happens the plastic at the end of winter?
Goes to an incinerator to be made into electric
How long does it take to wrap 4000 bales?
Jesus that's some job how many rolls of wrap would u use in first cut?
A few pallets!!
4000 bales. And a stationery wrapper needing 2 loaders to take off and put on the bales. Alot of unnecessary work. A fusion would save a massive amount of work.
If you want to make top quality bale silage you wrap at the stack. moving wrapped bales after theyve sagged in the field is a recipe for disaster. we dont hole any in our stack, moving 4000 bales after theyve been wrapped is going to be slow and a lot more likelihood of damaging them
Wrap and stack is the way forward.
Out of interest why no clamp allow you to feed differently, or something?
It's all in you're head. The new fusion baler that uses plastic instead of netting is the new way to go. Their is no waste whatsoever and fusion bales holds their shape. Pit silage is the best for large acreage of silage.
@@patrickbrennan6449 never known a fusion make silage as good as stack wrapping yet
Reet do!! You'll definitely get champion for 3 bale opening challenge! After that lot 👍👍
Where abouts is this bc one of the mountains look like Ben bulben in sligo in Ireland
The Isle of Man 🇮🇲
Why only stack 3 high? With 4 high you need less space and the bales still keep theire shape (if it aint to wet)
They are fairly heavy chopped bales. We find 3 is the best
Beautiful countryside.
I hope all that plastic can be recycled afterwards.
How much do you make of all those bales
Some amount of bales how much cows do ye have
Around 600
@@sandersfarmvids holy shit
Jaysus your beat with the bales my cousin could take notes he’s real messy with em holes nd all 😂 love from Ireland
Interesting! We still do round bale Silage here but stack as a Pyramid rather than end on. I put them Five high with our Manitou.
If we make any haylage we would stack higher but the silage bales would squash too much
good video, dunno why people always tell you "jUsT bUiLd A cLaMp!!!" its whatever suits the farm best, not what suits your mind. only downside of this i can think is the unwrapping and the plastic waste, otherwise seems like a decent solution.
Arent you afraid that the bales will fall on the building?
No the 2nd row are slightly inward as are the top on the edges so making a slight pyramid
@@sandersfarmvids how many days did you bale and wrap?
Awesome!! We bale anywhere’s between 1000-1500 bales a year but wrap it with an inline wrapper. The rows get long and you can’t stack them up high but we use less plastic than individual wrapping. Too bad you guys couldn’t put up an upright silo. They save a ton of space but again you’d have to buy all the chopping stuff.
wow, was it worth it ?
It’s what we do every year and it works for us
how weight kg 1 bale ?
We’ve not even finished first cut yet and only bale 80 acre 🤦♀️😂
Why bales not a clamp?
Some going that. What is the reason for not having a clamp?
A lot of our rented field are about 5k from farm with small country lanes and crossing one of the busiest roads on the island so not practical for loads of big silage trailers. Half our own silage land is a bit on the steep side for trailers. Also don’t want to be in a queue for the contractor as we have small weather windows on the island. We are going to price up changing to clamp this year as the plastic is an issue.
@@sandersfarmvids Top class production Mr Sanders. Which part of the plastic is an issue ? Cost or recycling? I make all bales and the cost of both has not increased much this year.
@@sandersfarmvids maybe a Wagon or 2 might be a good solution
@@yant8777 price of plastic wrap massively up here in northern Ireland.
@@yant8777 getting rid of it and the fact that it gets everywhere!
The guy stacking those bales will see bales in this sleep.
I’m glad I didn’t have to do them all. Did about 4 hrs at the end which was enough
We just finished stacking 10k of them off 650 acres
How much does it cost to have a contractor? Is it price pr bale or hourly?
Why don't you all do any with an inline wrapper? Just not work for your operation? I personally like doing both.
We wouldn’t wrap in the field. Too much chance of damaging them afterwards
@@sandersfarmvids I understand that, I don't wrap in the field either. Just saves so much time inline wrapping. But I guess every operation is different.
@@dudleyglass2845 where are you based? Never seen any inline wrapping in the uk
@@sandersfarmvids United States, I have watched a bunch of videos from across the pond and always see single bale wrapped hay aswell or bunks.
@@dudleyglass2845 you need lots of space for an in line wrapper which most UK farms don’t have!!
Are you going to recycle all that plastic?
Forage wagon is the way to go. 2 would easily do 100 acres a day. However more importantly for you is the the fact that it gives a longer chop so would assist in keeping your butterfat up.
What distance will you be from the pit to do that much in a day?
If your not running knives in the baler the chop will be longer than a wagon
How much in wrap would that cost you
How many layers you putting on with your hs2000? And What setting are you putting into the box to achieve this
Putting 6 layers on. Set wrapper to 12 wraps to do this
HOW IS EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE HOW IS YOUR SUMMER PLEASE LET US SEE SOME OF FARM AND COUNTRYSIDE
Christ we had 1,500 bales this year normally we get 800. Bales are alot of work and are messy but you can feck up all the feed in bales
Would have been nice if you showed more of the bailer especially how long it took to make each bail. I think you had WAY too much done footage.
That's the 1st cutting. 2nd cutting will be less and if they're lucky maybe a 3rd cutting.
crazy set up !!!.
Good crazy or crazy crazy?
What are the benefits too bales over clamp anyone know ? I can’t think of anything really
There are many benefits. You can bale small amounts at a time if you without having to continually open a clamp. You can feed them without having a clamp face to worry about going off. The long fibre in a bale is much better for cows health and gives you better butterfat levels in your milk
@@sandersfarmvids ahhh I see that’s really interesting actually
no YOU ARE GRAZY😳😳😳💪🏼💪🏼
Not sure if you have watched Cole the cornstar but in one of his recent videos they have a bale trailer that u slide 8 or 10 bales into it but with one push of a lever they all unload in a line instantly It’s very fast if you’ve a fast tractor or good keep for the field. I’m a first time viewer and absolutely lovin this video!
Probably won't be long before wrap is banned altogether. Being a farmer myself there's a hell of alot of plastic waste for a bale of bloody silage. Even more waste for a square bale just for horse haylage etc.
We do realise the waste situation, and will look into changing system but was not something we could do overnight
How far away are your fields from your Farm?
Anywhere from 1-6 km
Have you tried a belt baler you will get a lot more grass in each bale.
Not found that here? Roller balers always make a tighter bale that I've seen
Here in sweden the kuhn vbp has starter to be more and more popular. Since the one with belts kan press the bale all the way from the core they get the same density all the way. And with the combination of that and the 3d wrapping they hold their shape even one year after.
Worked at a farm up in northern sweden (where I live) a few years ago and was really happy with the bales the kuhn made
What thape of grase
Mostly HSG2
The hardship of those yokes There like a lucky bag you don’t know what’s in them till you open them
Not if you make them properly
@@sandersfarmvids they are still hardship and an eyesore around the country
Hey how much do you sell each of those for ?
We don’t sell any, they are all for feeding our own cows
Why are. You dumping bales in window you need to bale?
How come you don’t just use twine since your wrapping the bale why spend twice the money for using net wrap
You can’t hold chopped bales together with twine and I haven’t seen any modern manufacturers offer that system for a long time. We would also have to cut all the strings off whereas we have a machine that will cut the plastic and net wrap and hold it
How many bales will your stock eat in a season
we usually try to make 6000
I like it if the clamp fails you can waste loads. This way your sure to save more. Do you struggle with brids pecking the plastic?
Not if you stack on their ends
The problem with the bales each 1 is an individual if they get row or vermin attack uhave to repair each 1 with the clampu have just 1 massive clamp much much cheaper less headaches u also save on panadol
Did you have autoload on for the bales? 🤣🤣
Yes. We just press a button and it does all the rest
What are the bales weighing in at?
We have no way to weigh them, but they are decent heavy bales as are all bales from a mchale
@@sandersfarmvids get a scales fitted to your telehandler maybe
Can someone answer me what is a clamp
If you type silage clamp into google this will show you
This is absolutely insane 🥴🤯imagine being the wrapper man 🥵🥵🥵
They love it!!!
I have done a little mis calculation😂 i dont have 400 acres i have 102. Since i measure in decares. Oopsie
Where ARe you from?
The Isle of Man 🇮🇲
Gotta ask in wich part of the world you at ? And that kind of grass you grow ? 10 bale/acre is one hell of a yield !!!
We are in the Isle of Man in the middle of the Irish Sea. The key to growing lots of grass is slurry and lime every year
I’m all aware for the slurry and lime but what you grow ? Is it rye grass or something else ?
Serious video 👍🏼
Where are you guys based and what kind of farm are you running that requires 4000 bales, from first cut?
How much will you feed out over winter?
Thanks from Éire 👍🏼
We are in the Isle of Man. We have nearly 600 milking cows and can be feeding up to 30 bales a day
@@sandersfarmvidsfair play, thanks very much for the reply. You are kept busy so 👍🏼
Will you be making second cut?
@@cdemo1186 yes we need a bit more yet!
@@sandersfarmvids i take it no mixer wagon?
No all put out with a handler and bale shear!
Build a clamp... You'll pay it off in one year with the money you save from all of that wrap jesus!
you forget that a clamp or pit has to be covered and sealed too. So plastic and tires, all the packing. then at feedout you have to keep using up your exposed face or it spoils.
@@rv-eb3wu That's true, but the vinyl sheets used are a one time purchase, and the sealing part isn't that complicated. You could always build a mechanical clamp to avoid all of that. Honestly with that much silage, they're making very good money. My buddy owns and operates an 1100ac grass silage farm, and they make 2mil+ per year off of it. Aside from machinery and supplies.
@@therickening7323 bales are also easier to sell so say someone wants 40ton and a bale is say 2ton that is much easier to load then 40ton of loose stuff....(40ton random figure)
Farming simulator 22 ?
😂
Jesus that must of took some amount of rolls of wrap
Quite a few pallets!
Great video🚜🚜