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    The country of origin or the made in label influences consumers' attitudes, perceptions and purchasing decisions. It triggers a global evaluation of the quality, performance or specific product attributes.
    Many brands stake their reputations in the country of origin. But in a globalized world, where materials come from different parts and are assembled in many places, how much can a single country of origin really tell you?
    Most people still like to believe that the label says made in the US is entirely made in the US, however, that's oftentimes not the case. It just means that the majority of the parts were actually made or assembled in the US.
    Sometimes, sales clerks and staff don't know much about the supply chains of the brands they sell. And because of that, they can't really tell you where something is made in its entirety. So obviously, there are different rules of what you can and can't say on labels.
    What does the Made In label mean in the US? The Federal Trade Commission, also known as FTC requires that you don't just have the country of origin but also the fiber content as well as wash instructions and the manufacturer or brand label. That being said, those labeling requirements do not apply until the product goes to sale to the consumer.
    Both at Fort Belvedere and Gentlemens Gazette, we firmly believe in quality and because of that, that's what we strive for. We also believe that a high-quality product can be made anywhere in the world and so we try to get a really high-quality product at a fair price.
    In a nutshell, what can a country of origin tell you? The answer is: not much. Maybe it can give you a hint about the quality and where it was made but it's not always true and it really just gives you a small glimpse into what actually happened. So ideally, always talk to the brands to buy from, understand what they do, whether stuff is coming from, how it's made, and don't just look at the origin label.

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  • @gentlemansgazette
    @gentlemansgazette  4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    How much of a watch has to be Swiss to call it "Swiss Made"? Find out here www.gentlemansgazette.com/the-swiss-watch-primer/?

    • @dmax9946
      @dmax9946 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really liked this video. I would appreciate a deeper dive into this topic in general.

  • @AndrewL31413
    @AndrewL31413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    It means nothing. I live in Italy and many “made in Italy” products are owned by Chinese businesses that bought them out and made by Chinese workers. It means nothing anymore.

    • @raphael9256
      @raphael9256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So dame true!

    • @thomaschristopherwhite9043
      @thomaschristopherwhite9043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A lot of Italian made stuff sucks anyway.

    • @revokdaryl1
      @revokdaryl1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's precisely why I like to buy vintage Italian made clothing. I mean from 1970-1990.

    • @revokdaryl1
      @revokdaryl1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomaschristopherwhite9043 There is good and bad quality in every country. I'm Canadian and live in Canada. I've bought and worn Canadian made winter boots that were absolute garbage. On the other hand, I've had boots that were made in the Philippines that were excellent and never leaked or fell apart on me at all.

    • @elgooghosent7080
      @elgooghosent7080 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomaschristopherwhite9043 i bet you have something jappocrap

  • @carltrotter7622
    @carltrotter7622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    I can respect you Mr. Schneider, instead of following china's low quality stereotype, you sourced silk from a variety of countries and found China has the highest quality. A true man with nothing to hide in both your company and supply chain. 👍

    • @gentlemansgazette
      @gentlemansgazette  4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      The reality is if someone speaks of English, Italian of French silk, the raw material is always from China. Yes, the printing and finishing are much better, which is why we only use "English" and "Italian" silk for our products and they are of a superior quality than a fabric I could buy from China, but the raw material is still from there.

    • @purplefabian
      @purplefabian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gentleman's Gazette get educated low gdp has nothing to do with cheap labor/low manufacturing costs. China has the second highest gdp in the world. And Azores is not a country, Azores are part of Portugal and neither do they have cheap wages like Morocco nor do they have factories out there in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean

    • @gentlemansgazette
      @gentlemansgazette  4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@purplefabian I meant GDP per capita, and that is indicative of the labor cost in the countries. The aggregate GDP is useless to determine labor cost, that is true.

    • @geremysimms1112
      @geremysimms1112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gentlemansgazette China is still a developing country, but most people in the world have a deformed requirement for China due to ideology and racial discrimination.

    • @djcfb2889
      @djcfb2889 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Em, for your information, China has a three thousand tradition of producing quality silk. Actually it is until recently that China got this bad reputation as"low quality", for thousand of years, "made in China" is a hallmark for good products like silk, tea and china.

  • @sakakibaryo
    @sakakibaryo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Living in a production country (Indonesia) I often bought things directly from the factory as surplus products or minor defects.
    I don't think origins label is a staple of quality, speaking from experience.
    What I'm paying attention though, is the labour ethics. I mostly find that small companies pays attention more than larger companies.

    • @johnwheatleywhite484
      @johnwheatleywhite484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rio Akbar Pramanta I appreciate your comment. Thank you.

    • @inisipisTV
      @inisipisTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's is so true. The bigger the company brand would have the main factories that produce their product to sometimes resort to sub-contracting a lot of smaller factories that would even sub-contract to even to other factories, with each the quality degrades through the pipe-line.

  • @christian-andreasschierloh3601
    @christian-andreasschierloh3601 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have worked in the luxury fashion industry for 16 years. Mostly for Italian companies. “Made in Italy” actually meant something back in the days. For the past 10ish years I’ve noticed that quality went dramatically down. Made in Italy is NOT made BY Italians. Chinese companies own factories in Italy and use Chinese labour to manufacture “luxury” products. So what’s the point?

    • @ZZMJo
      @ZZMJo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Big italian companies employ now Chinese companies in Italy for their products, even if the labour costs are lower their products prices are higher and higher. They begann last century with Pakistan or India, etc. and I don't pay for the company bank account anymore.

    • @scrambaba
      @scrambaba 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So all Italian companies are now dishonest? What you are saying actually underlines the importance of labels. So even if some labels are dishonest, that does not prove that all are dishonest. It proves that Italy needs to reform its labelling requirements.

  • @nukie404
    @nukie404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "Made in" has become a branding itself, it's like trying to pick out quality goods based on company names. I think the responsibility has been shifted even more towards to the customers to really do their research and figure out what's good quality and made ethically (as possible).

  • @Ya0Yao
    @Ya0Yao 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Whenever I go back to China, I spent a lot of time exploring Taobao and found a lot of very good-quality niche stores there. These stores usually only serve the Chinese domestic market. They don't do mass production, which often goes overseas.

  • @yjlconductor
    @yjlconductor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This was very informative! I'll think twice before just looking at the label of the country of origin but rather by looking and feeling the quality of the material.

  • @Josh101
    @Josh101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Never thought I'd hear this channel mention my little home town of Northampton

    • @theartistformallyknownasdi5338
      @theartistformallyknownasdi5338 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Quality Shoe capital of the world

    • @juanarocha8629
      @juanarocha8629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers from Madrid

    • @AndreMonz
      @AndreMonz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He also mentioned Azores! I live on one of the archipelago islands and I had no clue about the hand rolling here.

    • @Legionnaire7777
      @Legionnaire7777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Best made shoes in the world made in Northampton

    • @deepblue007
      @deepblue007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aloha from Hawaii, mate!

  • @The_Kavalier
    @The_Kavalier 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The more I speak to people that manufacture in Italy the more I hear about the "chinatown" region that has been largely bought out by the Chinese with the purpose of still being able to manufacture with a "Made in Italy" label. Would like to dive into that in the future. Amazing video as always GG team!

    • @gentlemansgazette
      @gentlemansgazette  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Jon

    • @doublehh666
      @doublehh666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Prado, Italy. And some other towns nearby. It made be made in Italy, but it’s made by Chinese owned factories and workers. It’s up to the consumer to determine if that’s the same. That’s outright fraud when I heard of the label slapping at the end game right before going to the stores and consumer.

    • @ZZMJo
      @ZZMJo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@doublehh666 Prato. I don't know if this is a joke or a fairy tale, but in Naples they begann to use "made in China" in order to sell some products and make some cash!

    • @Toast0808
      @Toast0808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s time for the Europe, North America, and the West to flush China down the toilet.

    • @scrambaba
      @scrambaba 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree- GG should do a piece on label dishonesty in Italy.

  • @LLCCB
    @LLCCB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This was really informative. I appreciate you honesty about your process and some insight into the business

  • @johnwheatleywhite484
    @johnwheatleywhite484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This was a very informative video. I’ve taken a look at your store, and next time I need a tie or pocket square I’m sure I’ll buy from you. This is the best channel for men’s fashion, in my view (and BTW, the only one not going all out to try to sell me a cheap watch 😏). Thank you!

  • @PrincipalSkinner3190
    @PrincipalSkinner3190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Balenciaga recently shifted its sneaker production to China to cut costs. I can only assume the quality was lessened.

    • @villegas24
      @villegas24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      No one goes to Balenciaga if they are looking for quality anyway.

    • @krunoslavkovacec1842
      @krunoslavkovacec1842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah, you realy have to have a quality product from the start to say that it can decrease in quality. I wouldn't call plastic sock- like sneakers and 600$ hoodies quality anyway. Cristobal Balenciaga was a fashion visionary and so were Coco Chanel, C. Dior, Carla Fendi and so on. The things their companies are doing now is already a major degradation of each of the respectful heritage of each of their companies respectively.

    • @asirf.3634
      @asirf.3634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      For the price of their fugly sneakers tho... Gucci is still made in italy

    • @mgm3649
      @mgm3649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Another reason not to buy those abominations.

    • @JAG214
      @JAG214 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are late on this because if you just google this you would know that they started doing this back in 2018 or maybe earlier then 2018 because all the articles about this was published in 2018

  • @SkashTheKitsune
    @SkashTheKitsune 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And thanks for the shoutout of wool, even though we claim to be better than New Zealand, I can't say anything negative about them because it wouldn't come with factual evidence and... it's quite mean to pick on a humble sister country that does nothing against your own country... except compete in fair trade practice.... so in short, buy Australian but New Zealand wool is just as good.

  • @ikhanarendra8913
    @ikhanarendra8913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very comprehensive summary on introduction of supply chain... Nice work as always raphael 👊

  • @outlandishtaief
    @outlandishtaief 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm from Bangladesh and I'm from the textile industry. As always great content Raphael! Bravo👏

  • @krunoslavkovacec1842
    @krunoslavkovacec1842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I think that it doesn't really matter. You can have a bespoke suit from China , Hong Kong or Romania and those are much higher quality than machine made products of course, as is the case with most countries.

    • @Jim58223
      @Jim58223 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Krunoslav Kovacec It matters if you buy based on ethical reasons. I'd much rather buy a suit made in the UK or the US knowing it wasn't made using forced or imprisoned labour. Doesn't matter much for more free countries, but places like china it matters.

    • @krunoslavkovacec1842
      @krunoslavkovacec1842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Jim58223 Yes, you are appsolutely correct. Aldo in every country working in a factory of any kind means horrible working conditions, I agree that in countries with cheap labour those conditions are the worst.

    • @Tom-gl1iw
      @Tom-gl1iw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Jim58223ironically the "land of the free" has the highest percentage of incarcerated population. Considering how much the US uses prisoners to manufacture stuff, if you're trying to buy for ethical reasons then you should avoid the US.

    • @geremysimms1112
      @geremysimms1112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hong Kong is a part of China

    • @poisonyves4398
      @poisonyves4398 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Jim58223 incarcerated men are forced to do labor with little to no payment in US, nice try though.

  • @theirishcontrarian4626
    @theirishcontrarian4626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Excellent video sir. Thanks for de-mistifying this area. Long time interest in clothing and the supply chain, but really learned here. Thank you.

  • @therrendunham5594
    @therrendunham5594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can't say enough how much I admire the knowledge you have, even more so what you're willing to share.

  • @timapple6586
    @timapple6586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm astonished by the research and presentation quality in this video. IMO the most fascinating I've seen on this channel to date. [Mr. Schneider's English jacket looked incredibly sharp, also!]

  • @samuelboonkhenglee8374
    @samuelboonkhenglee8374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The best vid from GG thus far! Thoroughly enjoyed every bit of it :)

  • @andybailey97
    @andybailey97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fascinating video. I had to laugh when at 1:30 a picture of Liverpool, (my home town), came up. Then when you shared your experience with a Bosch appliance, (I work for them). Love the channel!

  • @desmondding7405
    @desmondding7405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for your honesty, Sven! We need more manufacturers who are willing to honestly share the process of manufacturing with the consumers.

  • @Jim58223
    @Jim58223 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Short answer: yes but depends on the context.

  • @blah007001
    @blah007001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I'm wondering how much the pandemic will break these supply chains.

    • @krunoslavkovacec1842
      @krunoslavkovacec1842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It will for sure but smaller brands will be in more danger than huge companies.

    • @gentlemansgazette
      @gentlemansgazette  4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Not having everything in one place will become more important. Fortunately, people in China are often back to work now.

    • @EGOCOGITOSUM
      @EGOCOGITOSUM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@krunoslavkovacec1842 that is really sad there are so many little amazing craftsmen that are risking to go extinct why the average boring big brands are safe, same for restaurants how many small owners they put passion and sweat into their businesses, many will dissolve while big restaurant brands will be mostly all we have left

    • @krunoslavkovacec1842
      @krunoslavkovacec1842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EGOCOGITOSUM Sadly ypu don't know what you have untill you lose it.

    • @shaneblackwood9052
      @shaneblackwood9052 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Destroy it. I want first world assembly only from this year forwards

  • @MatthewJBD
    @MatthewJBD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is typically why I buy second hand or from charity shops (thrift stores) these days as the 'Made in UK or England' actually means it... And its quality.
    I must wonder though... Surely there must be some people out there in China who make QUALITY goods. They must hate having to put 'made in China' on their goods.

    • @Jim58223
      @Jim58223 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea best way to be more environmentally friendly is also to buy second hand. Also give to local economy and doesn't provide money to nations that use forced labour like china.

  • @kennethjohnson6141
    @kennethjohnson6141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I must comment and thank you for such transparency of your products. I have shopped at other men stores online, that will remain nameless and they speak on how their product is made 100% in Italy or UK, fabric and all. It honestly makes me feel more secure in knowing that you are that honest and informative about your brand. Bravo my friend, definitely I will be buying from your brand. I have seen your website, but not purchased yet,but definitely will after seeing this

  • @jasoncarpp7742
    @jasoncarpp7742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it matters a lot. These are the countries I'd want my clothes to be made, in the USA and Canada, in Australia, and Germany. Country of manufacture is important, but so is quality of manufacture.

  • @sheriff7172
    @sheriff7172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An angle you may not have considered is the people who made the product and the local economic benefits. For example if an Italian business fires its Italian employees which may have worked for this firm for years and across multiple generation and hires Chinese to do the same work at a lower wage the business person maximizes profit as minimum wage is a cultural norm from china and is tolerated by the new work force. The next generation of Italians may find themselves out of work and will be unable to invest in the local economy, the company may also lose out on quality as they no longer have the employees responsible for delivering the fine craftsmanship. This is a betrayal of the Italian people as it is replacing the work force. I have heard people in Italy are very upset at this as the replacement of the workforce and population has caused negative economic impacts as well as the travel from China caused disproportionate illness. This is why i no longer care where it was made but who made it. There is also the connection to the piece I myself am a member of the Swiss diaspora and therefore have greater sentimental value or connection to Swiss watches, they are also conversation starters as when people find out I am Swiss they will often ask about if I have a Swiss watch or knife.

  • @easy306
    @easy306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loving all the new content, thanks guys!

  • @Wherstead
    @Wherstead 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I used to get goose bumps whenever I saw any clothing available in the Goodwill stores made by Ermenegildo Zegna. Actually, I still do, but was crushed when I saw a tie from them "Made in China" and finally disheartened to see a Z Zegna suit made in Mexico. To me, it just doesn't give the "desired flavor" of having a tag show "Made in Italy" or "Made in Switzerland". One other tag that I steer away from are the "Designed in ..." tags. It's like they are trying to say they are made in a country known for quality but you have to look hard to see the tiny print of where it is actually produced. This is a great article that I will surely have to watch again. Thank you for taking the time for another great "Made by the Gentleman's Gazette" that I know is of the best quality!

    • @scrambaba
      @scrambaba 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You see that in electronics too. “Designed in” is code for offshore production, but charging first world prices and pretending to be a first world product.

  • @4thbalanceofpower
    @4thbalanceofpower 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I saw a news story where Chinese sweatshops in Italy were tagging their products as Handcrafted in Italy.

    • @krunoslavkovacec1842
      @krunoslavkovacec1842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, that is not realy news. Many big companies do that. Champion outsources their production to Serbia, Crocs are made in Bosnia, Gucci , Prada and LV sneakers are made in a fabric called Proggeti Bosnia ( but it says on them Made in Italy or France ). Look it up, it s all true.

    • @WMFerguson
      @WMFerguson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I've sadly seen that as well, where Italian manufactures wholesale bring over Chinese laborers to make items legally in Italy but can still pay them Chinese wages.

  • @brockturner3112
    @brockturner3112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is why I love Lands' End! They usually give the story of the supply chain and a clothing item's journey around the earth. 🙃

  • @NochSoEinKaddiFan
    @NochSoEinKaddiFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was a very informative video and I would like to express my respect for your honest choice of the made in label for your products.
    If the presentation was spokent a touch slower in some segments, it would have been even more enjoyable :)

  • @williamcreitz7759
    @williamcreitz7759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Sven, and very informative. I appreciate you integrity, your transparency, and the quality of your products (love my Fort Belvedere products). Keep up the good work.

  • @artmallory970
    @artmallory970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Many products today also have
    'Designed in...'
    'Made in...'
    On the label.

  • @chenchina4577
    @chenchina4577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You realize many Italian luxury companies (for example) contract to factories in Italy that are owned and almost entirely staffed by somewhat recent Chinese immigrants (mostly from the garment region of Wenzhou/Zhejiang Province) so they can label "Made in Italy" on the product. Matter of fact, some towns in northern Italy are almost like Chinese villages!

    • @inisipisTV
      @inisipisTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No wonder Italy was quickly hit hard by the Wuhan virus.

    • @kiddhkane
      @kiddhkane 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@inisipisTV The "hug an asian day" surely didn't make things better. And by "asian" read "chinese"

  • @dang1861
    @dang1861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It depends on what you buy. American tools tend to be better. There was a time when made in USA made a huge difference.

    • @barnabyg6808
      @barnabyg6808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dan G American, German and some specialised British tools are the ones I go for, the USA is a mark of quality though I agree not nearly as prevalent as it previously was.

  • @bheinatz1
    @bheinatz1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, Rafa! That was extremely informative, thank you!

  • @dickiedollop
    @dickiedollop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think here in the west we have to look long and hard about outsourcing to China as it’s not just a matter of cheap production

    • @davidkast3587
      @davidkast3587 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i personally think it's worth it to spend a bit more on your product to make it last longer. Duluth bags, for example. They are pricey but they put a lot of time into each bag. They aren't made on a conveyor belt in 15 minutes. But they last a lifetime.

  • @Chaosbarde
    @Chaosbarde 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an interesting video. Of course you kind of "know" things like that but you're never fully aware of this. And also I like the honesty of the video, because you let us know how you do it und why. This transparency for me is also a sign of quality.

  • @mrkoolzaad2
    @mrkoolzaad2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of your best videos. Very informative, E.

  • @mr.meticulouslohese7584
    @mr.meticulouslohese7584 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work Sven. I always appreciate thorough content. You gave me a technical understanding of what my mind has always wondered the meaning behind Made In. Thank you for the continued work in educating us about Gentleman's wear. Respect Sir.
    Sincerely,
    Mr. Meticulous(Un 🇨🇩Sapeur nakati ya Minnesota)
    P.s.
    I'll be showing this to my lil cousin who follows your page. We're both Twin City Residents who for years have gained much intricate knowledge thanks to me stumbling into your page years ago now.

  • @DwightMS1
    @DwightMS1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great article Sven, thank you. I'm sure we learned a lot from it.

  • @KeiPyn24
    @KeiPyn24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a personal topic for me.I make every effort to source U.S. made clothing. For instance, I live in Massachusetts although from the South, I found a tailor who now does most of my dress clothes. I pay on average 1200-1800 per suit of clothes. I could have the same made by bespoke tailor in China for about 250 +/-.
    Point here is I feel better knowing my money stays local and U.S. I don't like Chinese goods and feel purchasing from them is tantamount to treason of U.S. producers. I get that silk is from China, but the first instance I see a product Made in China, I don't buy.
    Thanks Sven.
    Now, can you do a video explaining how you got started in your business? You are an interesting man.
    Thank you.

  • @cmwright1976
    @cmwright1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this informative video. It also gives an insight into how you care about quality and fair practices for your own line of FB products. So more important than the “Made In” label is trusting that the owner of the product line is really looking for factories no matter what country, that deliver high quality products and also treat their workers properly.

  • @corpsiecorpsie_the_original
    @corpsiecorpsie_the_original 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Essentially we need a meaningful replacement for "made in" so consumers can ensure our money is going to where we want it to go

  • @JAG214
    @JAG214 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great video that everyone should watch if you want to be more informed on this topic

  • @villegas24
    @villegas24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Suitsupply is made in china and as a recent graduate who cant go custom I couldn't be happier with the quality.

    • @AndreMonz
      @AndreMonz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is really good for it's price and a great entry into classic menswear. But I bet that you will eventually feel very tempted or even buy something with higher quality.

  • @MichaelOssen
    @MichaelOssen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, you have touched on this topic before with labor costs and specialization so this is good.

  • @DarthLenaPlant
    @DarthLenaPlant 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've worked at two Austrian fabric manufacturers for internships, and visited several more in the course of my vocational education, and yes, the label "Made in Austria" doesn't always tell the whole story, but it might not necessarily be a "lie" either. Often the truth lies in both aspects, and maybe also depends on the definition of "made" itself. So I have seen/worked at places where the raw material comes from f.e. Indonesia, India or China, but it is spun in Romania, and then the fabric is WOVEN/KNITTED in Austria, finished in Switzerland, but sewed together in either Italy, Spain, Hungary or actually Austria (again), which does give a truly complicated dimension to the finished product.
    Sometimes it might be used to justify a higher price, but if you actually take a deeper dive into the manufacturing process and the supply chain, you can THEN pass judgement whether or not you will trust the company. Information truley is key, and sometimes it can be even really fun to discover the history of garment making in one's own country, and the history of it. But as a general rule, Fast Fashion is NOT to be trusted, and will not be any step towards sustainability and protecting the environment, especially since all these principles would question the justification of the mere existence of such companies (or capitalism in general, if we think that particular thought to its end), even if they do try to market themselves as caring about that particular issue.
    For an example of high quality "fashion" (Can traditional costume even BE fashion? Well, according to the legendary Gexi Tostmann, yes, it can, even if it might not be seen as "fashion" to the uninitiated) that is made in my country; through my parents, I am also a customer of the manufacturer Tostmann Trachten (who have only two stores worldwide, Vienna and Seewalchen (talk about exclusivity ;D)), simply because we know that they source high quality fabrics (wherever they come from, but some are indeed dyed/printed in Austria) which they then cut and sew together at their locations in Austria, and we also do have the experience of owning garments from them that have lasted decades and will last several decades more, and we can always wear them because they will gladly alter the garments (where possible) to make them fit to an everchanging body (something that happens to women more often than men, but things that can't be altered we give away so that someone else can wear them).

  • @leviwithan_n
    @leviwithan_n 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was really helpful to me as a consumer, thank you so much. Please keep making more videos about quality!

  • @UltimaForsan101
    @UltimaForsan101 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    An informative video. I appreciate the candor about your products' origins. Cheers.

  • @ThaFashionAssassin
    @ThaFashionAssassin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been on the fence about buying a suit from a MTM online. They've made great dress shirts for me. But I've been hesitate to buy a suit from them because of where they're made. Despite the fact of their quality craftsmanship. Also because I want that "made in" Italy tag. Now I know to take that chance

  • @roccogiurato2603
    @roccogiurato2603 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good points, Mr Schneider. To me, quality matters more than "made in" labels.

  • @cgtsang
    @cgtsang 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative Gentleman

  • @llamamanism
    @llamamanism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The biggest variable difference in my experience when clothes are made in different countries is the sizing. A pair of Levi’s made in Philippines are skinnier cut than USA ones. XL T shirts made in USA are larger than Pakistani XL size, presumably because some are also sold on the domestic market and the body sizes are not the same.

    • @inisipisTV
      @inisipisTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The problem lies more on the fact there is no standardized unit of measurement, with each country having deeply entrenched to their own standards, something that can't be easily remedied.

    • @msminiaturist3581
      @msminiaturist3581 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, asking anyone outside of Europe to make American clothing is absurd. They have no concept of structure, lines and varying proportions.

  • @j.desoto5870
    @j.desoto5870 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do a video on what countries have a reputation of quality for a given product.

  • @lucafwn
    @lucafwn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As the owner of Chinese watches and a Romanian car, I can confirm that you can find quality even in "budget" countries, if you ask for it and you are prepared to pay the price - a quality item can be cheaper in a budget country, but only that much cheaper, no more: if you go for ultra cheap items, you get ultra cheap quality, in budget countries as well as in "classic" ones.

  • @Dominik-kx6il
    @Dominik-kx6il 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    as with the origin of a product telling something about the quality, so it is on a smaller scale with "products" made by few people. here i mean youtube video presentations: if i see something presented by gentlemans gazette, i already know it has the highest quality. stuff presented here is information well researched, information you can trust. well done once again!

  • @roderickfraser9788
    @roderickfraser9788 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for featuring the Fraser of Lovat tartan (minute 6:16) in this video!

  • @miguelluis483
    @miguelluis483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It feels great to know the Azores (Portuguese territory) are seen as a low labour cost north african country...

  • @mediroj5888
    @mediroj5888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Could you please ask Preston where he got his glasses? I’d really appreciate it!

    • @gentlemansgazette
      @gentlemansgazette  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      WE answered that in our FAQ and Robot and Elf www.gentlemansgazette.com/robot-or-elf-get-to-know-preston-schlueter/ and www.gentlemansgazette.com/answering-faqs-gg-anniversary/

  • @garytsai8275
    @garytsai8275 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Rafael and team!

  • @jedtheye1470
    @jedtheye1470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, an interesting introspective into where products are made and why different brands decide on any place where an element of it is made, or where the main assembly happens. Also, is "solely" around 1:08, when it features the inside of a shoe meant to be a pun?

  • @josephhughes1498
    @josephhughes1498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see a local mall at 1:29 (Liverpool one) great video, never really thought about the “made in” labels possibly not being 100% true which is strange really because I’m always sceptical when it comes to where watches say they are made!

  • @christopherwaller2798
    @christopherwaller2798 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worth mentioning that some of the *very* fast, very cheap fast fashion retailers, especially online retailers, use domestic or European manufacturing to cut down on lead times for trend-led items. This is to avoid something that will be out of date the next month getting stuck in the Suez Canal or just taking a long time to arrive; but there are still problems with labour practices and fire safety. For example, the British city of Leicester has numerous garment factories.

  • @shaandilantha9083
    @shaandilantha9083 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the Sri Lankan Apparel Industry, especially the well-known brands and large companies have an environmentally friendly production and good working conditions and pay for workers. Small and medium scale factories are forced to follow the standards in order to create a better image for their businesses and to be more competitive. Colombo Stock Exchange has now launched a new ESG (environment, social, and governance ) Index for companies with the best ESG standards.

  • @ricklloyd6070
    @ricklloyd6070 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for an informative video. Very enlightening.

  • @Blast20nx
    @Blast20nx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saint Crispin's shoes that are made in the city of Brasov in Romania and 100hands shirts that are made in Amritsar in India are examples of exquisite products.

  • @kennethMblake
    @kennethMblake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Business as usual. Thanks, folks.

  • @christopherderrick3745
    @christopherderrick3745 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video. Thank you for making it!

  • @jameswallace5967
    @jameswallace5967 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great video. Just what I needed to hear.

  • @lordkent8143
    @lordkent8143 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    To a certain extent. Quality control is important and also the engineering and styling matter when you think about countries that do it in-house.

  • @black5f
    @black5f ปีที่แล้ว

    I have no problem with for example, a Harris tweed jacket, tweed sourced from Harris and tailored in Eire? I have no problem with Egyptian cotton made into a shirt in the UK? What upsets me is certain "brands" that no longer operate or own or control any factories and use subcontractors for the entire product journey. Quality falls, but price goes up.

  • @kleniiii
    @kleniiii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Hungary is known for paprika"
    Sadly it will end soon. We can't race with Cina's so cheap variants. :( Even us Hungarians use Chinese paprika, because people don't care quality that much over the price. The same is happening with honey.

    • @leventebardossy5962
      @leventebardossy5962 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sad but true. However, most Hungarians buy paprika in shops owned by foreigners. French (Spar), German (Aldi, Lidl) or English (Tesco) shop franchises don't care, and those are the cheaper ones.
      Also, where are those Hungarian shoemakers Raphael mentioned in the video? Even Budai Cipőbolt, which I hear has a very prestigous past, is a seller of Rieker and Salamander now. Just saw their offer last week seeking for a good pair of shoes.

    • @kleniiii
      @kleniiii 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@leventebardossy5962 Maybe Tisza cipő? :D Raphael would get a headache instantly.

    • @DJRevan
      @DJRevan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leventebardossy5962 Vass Cipő, Attila Cipő.

    • @inisipisTV
      @inisipisTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem with food, unlike say Cel phones, the kind of ingredient to each country is always different, so Paprika chillies grown in China, even using the same plant variety, would always taste different to the chillies made in Hungary. Of course it's up to the consumer if they would trade such change of flavor in favor of price.

  • @purplefabian
    @purplefabian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7:16 Azores is not a country! and they definitely don’t have low labor costs like Morocco! Azores belongs to Portugal and they don’t have factories on the islands.

    • @gentlemansgazette
      @gentlemansgazette  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We never claimed the Azores were a country, and I have been there ;) This was the quote:"And then, some manufacturers just ship it to the Azores, or Morocco, or some other North African countries with a low labor cost where they get hand-rolled and sent back, but then, they have a “Made in Italy” or “Made in England” label in there. "

  • @diwanumam1507
    @diwanumam1507 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    To provide a bit of context: yes, the fires in Bangladeshi factories are horrible but this entire industry was what saved a war destroyed country from literal death from starvation. We are now going past those days and things are improving. However, keep in mind that if it is worker welfare you have in mind, what is needed is to force the irresponsible factory owners into shape, not a complete boycott which can result in more literal death just from starvation. Something that is actually a risk now with the Corona virus shutdown. Thanks for reading and caring, if you do.

  • @fashionismypassiongirl660
    @fashionismypassiongirl660 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great and helpful video! 😁👍🏻

  • @desiderium3243
    @desiderium3243 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some of my Vintage Brooks, Brothers accessories and ties say that they are printed or woven in the UK, but assembled in the US

  • @Demo092
    @Demo092 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very educating! Thank you! :)

  • @seaslug7421
    @seaslug7421 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love for you guys to make a video about how to choose fabrics!

  • @KRW628
    @KRW628 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting. Very informative. Thank you.

  • @cordlaces8900
    @cordlaces8900 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I worked ultra luxury brands, and 80-100% of the products are made in China / Taiwan and some other countries - ultra brands literally assemble the hardware & sometimes might do some details - and slap a label /
    luxury brands sell anywhere from 50-125 million items yearly - there is not enough manufacturing workers in Italy France Germany or Spain to produce these many items - let alone when was the last time you spotted a manufacturing building lot? You would need 15-20k manufacturing buildings to manufacture everything from scratch & about 50 million workers that means the whole Italy would need to manufacture

  • @nicuhosu
    @nicuhosu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting content about supply chains! Thank you!

  • @MauricXe
    @MauricXe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this educational video

  • @Camrographer
    @Camrographer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what is a reliable way of determining the quality of a garment prior to purchasing or even having it in one's presence?

  • @guspeniche
    @guspeniche 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video!

  • @baezmd
    @baezmd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess the take-home message is to learn how to spot quality on your own instead of just trusting a label, brand name, or country of origin. The style journey never ends. It is an adventure.

  • @zBMatt
    @zBMatt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only if you care about heritage. Craftsmanship is craftsmanship and materials are materials if they can actually guarantee they did it right. Doesn’t matter where it’s from.

  • @AH-yg2dj
    @AH-yg2dj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mexico may be subject of stereotypes, but as a country we actually provide a good , nice and affordable production quality; brooks brothers makes some of its garments here, such as Volkswagen and bmw cars, and sony 4k tv’s.

  • @DjGlenJon
    @DjGlenJon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    im a handmade type.......... so yes i feel it matters.......i personally write "MADE IN ENGLAND" on certain products

  • @NochSoEinKaddiFan
    @NochSoEinKaddiFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would actually go even further, the label "made in..." means that the last production or assembly step happened in that country, nothing more.
    From the German perspective that is. And disclaimer, as far as I know, I could be wrong. ^^

    • @ZZMJo
      @ZZMJo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even if the sew only the label on it!

  • @alanweis7856
    @alanweis7856 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is a curvy road I am taking, but we will get where I lead you all.
    Made in Germany means a lot. A precise, well engineered product.
    Made in Italy implies high quality, well-designed goods.
    How about cities? What does it mean to be born or live in Budapest?
    The highest peak is the "Freedom Statue" the city cut half perfectly north to south, the biggest and most beautiful parliament in the world. The dept of the city is incomparable.

  • @happyface4234
    @happyface4234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very objective! Good video!

  • @Salmiyaguy1
    @Salmiyaguy1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I prefer made to measure and bespoke. And when I buy electronics, I walk in and say show me what's not made in China, then they show me just two items, which makes my choice much easier.

  • @SilverSamurai12
    @SilverSamurai12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    First time commenter, but gotta tip my hat to you for your transparency.
    Any chance you could an "episode" on sustainability or non-leather goods mens fashion? It's tough finding vegan dress shoes and wallets!

  • @thomaschristopherwhite9043
    @thomaschristopherwhite9043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everyone should just label their products "Made on Earth".

  • @moondawg1439
    @moondawg1439 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent!!

  • @joebarton4947
    @joebarton4947 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Among the list of justifications for Georgia being founded as a British colony was a claim that it was a good climate for the trees that silk worms need to feed on. So had that been correct or if it was correct, not overshadowed by the higher profits of producing cheaper textile fiber at the cost of millions of people's lives (coughn cotton, cough) then maybe we could have had us silk production