I'm very curious about these teachings, specifically about the Fall and understanding (from an LDS perspective) how this all works. This video was helpful, but what other resources would anyone recommend to delve a bit deeper and wider? thanks!
I forever thank HEAVENLY FATHER and our BELOVED HOLY HEAVENLY MOTHER, for the Restoration of the TRUE CHURCH, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS, back on Earth.
I lean to disagreeing that the taking of Adam's "rib" to make Eve is figurative. Eve needed to be made from something, as Adam was made from dust. So Eve was made from Adam's rib; she was not made out of nothing. Literal interpretation would coincide with Adam's statement in Genesis 2:23: "This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh." When God told Adam and Eve to not partake of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, He meant it. God means what He says. He didn't give them that commandment with a wink of an eye, with a hidden wish that they would actually do the the opposite of what He commanded. That is not the character of God.
I discovered that blood is created in the ribs, blood is our life, life blood. I don't think the use of the word rib is used as a non literal phrase, based on the role the ribs play in our creation.
President Spencer Kimball is the authority that said the rib is not correct. While I have nothing against asking questions I do believe in our prophets.
As far as the rib bone, God sais he closed up the flesh so i an wondering why he would add that part if he didn't open to get the rib. Just curious. I am a member of the church and was just curious why that would be put into the passage. Please excuse my ignorance.
You know, I don't know where Kimball said such a thing. I know figurative meanings, and what they look like, but the rib bone story doesn't seem figurative 'only' at all, God doing such a thing was easily literal AND figurative. But Kimball is a Prophet, so if he said it, l don't want to doubt it, but I've never heard of that by any authority.
It is easy to focus on the Tree of Knowledge Fruit ... which must have contained an cascading enzyme that cut the loop cord on one side of the stem, (a looped stem attached to double helix dna = immortal) so a cut loop single stem attached to double helix with a 1000 year life expectancy. YET Therrrre was mentioned another Tree, the Tree of Life ... which apparently has a fruit with a cascading enzyme that reconnects the long stem or draws the stem back into a loop and immortal again!
Now the serpent represents royalty but what about at the time of the garden of eden? How did it represent royalty or Christ then? Moses with the staff hadn't happened yet
Hi. I have just read your commentary. Yes, it had happened, if you understand that who wrote the Book of Genesis was Moses, who lived centuries after the fall, at a time when the Serpent represented royalty. So Moses wrote the book, or received it by revelation, in his time, not at Adams time. (Writing from Brazil)
Help meet is a wife. This is confirmed when god took his daughter unto the man and gave her to adam or the man.adam gives his vows and they are married adam gives prophetic insight but also says he left his mother and heavenly father. Thank you mother eve a wife's wisdom and insight allowed us to be here and allowed christ to fulfill his purpose
The rib was more symbolic. Personally, I think the way the whole narrative was presented was mostly symbolic. FWIW, I heard some other discussions (it might have been some rabbis) who made a lovely and very convincing suggestion that it wasn't just a small piece of Adam. They suggested that Adam was created as a whole human, and then was divided into two halves, a male half and a female half. ...As somewhat a feminist, I was touched to think that the woman wasn't just made from some small and relatively spare part as an afterthought, but an equal and essential part of humanity, from the generative moment. I might convert to whatever denomination suggested it. 😂
I've always loved watching these "nugget classes." Can watch through many times and glean and glean, again. 🇬🇧 13:46
Thank you for producing this. It's very wonderful.
I wish more men would pay attention to what is being taught about the true relationship meant between a man, a woman, and God.
I just admire watching these video's they are so inspiring with great knowledge
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I'm very curious about these teachings, specifically about the Fall and understanding (from an LDS perspective) how this all works. This video was helpful, but what other resources would anyone recommend to delve a bit deeper and wider? thanks!
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Thank you so much
I forever thank HEAVENLY FATHER and our BELOVED HOLY HEAVENLY MOTHER, for the Restoration of the TRUE CHURCH, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS, back on Earth.
I lean to disagreeing that the taking of Adam's "rib" to make Eve is figurative. Eve needed to be made from something, as Adam was made from dust. So Eve was made from Adam's rib; she was not made out of nothing. Literal interpretation would coincide with Adam's statement in Genesis 2:23: "This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh."
When God told Adam and Eve to not partake of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, He meant it. God means what He says. He didn't give them that commandment with a wink of an eye, with a hidden wish that they would actually do the the opposite of what He commanded. That is not the character of God.
That is what i am asking, he closed up the flesh. Why would he have to close up the flesh if he didn't really take the rib.
@@ruthannh.3188 that could be figurative too, but I still don't believe it was figurative solely.
I agree with you!
Hebrew teachings are often figurative. It is part of their story telling and is used throughout the Torah and other Jewish books.
Love the discussion about helpmeet beautiful!
I did not seem to remember the serpent being a symbol of royal authority, or Messianic authority. Truly intriguing.
Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden: Gen. 2-3 give us the answers of how we got here.
According to John Walton, an Old Testament scholar, the statement that God “rested” means he took his place in his temple as the God of this world.
I discovered that blood is created in the ribs, blood is our life, life blood.
I don't think the use of the word rib is used as a non literal phrase, based on the role the ribs play in our creation.
President Spencer Kimball is the authority that said the rib is not correct. While I have nothing against asking questions I do believe in our prophets.
Listen the truth will never be told bc it will shock the world and it will cause chaos💯
As far as the rib bone, God sais he closed up the flesh so i an wondering why he would add that part if he didn't open to get the rib. Just curious. I am a member of the church and was just curious why that would be put into the passage. Please excuse my ignorance.
You know, I don't know where Kimball said such a thing. I know figurative meanings, and what they look like, but the rib bone story doesn't seem figurative 'only' at all, God doing such a thing was easily literal AND figurative. But Kimball is a Prophet, so if he said it, l don't want to doubt it, but I've never heard of that by any authority.
I agree with you!
It is easy to focus on the Tree of Knowledge Fruit ... which must have contained an cascading enzyme that cut the loop cord on one side of the stem, (a looped stem attached to double helix dna = immortal) so a cut loop single stem attached to double helix with a 1000 year life expectancy.
YET
Therrrre was mentioned another Tree, the Tree of Life ... which apparently has a fruit with a cascading enzyme that reconnects the long stem or draws the stem back into a loop and immortal again!
Now the serpent represents royalty but what about at the time of the garden of eden? How did it represent royalty or Christ then? Moses with the staff hadn't happened yet
Hi. I have just read your commentary. Yes, it had happened, if you understand that who wrote the Book of Genesis was Moses, who lived centuries after the fall, at a time when the Serpent represented royalty. So Moses wrote the book, or received it by revelation, in his time, not at Adams time. (Writing from Brazil)
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Help meet is a wife.
This is confirmed when god took his daughter unto the man and gave her to adam or the man.adam gives his vows and they are married adam gives prophetic insight but also says he left his mother and heavenly father. Thank you mother eve a wife's wisdom and insight allowed us to be here and allowed christ to fulfill his purpose
If not the rib bone, then what part of Adam was used to create Eve ?
No body part is used. Eve was created just like Adam was.
The rib was more symbolic. Personally, I think the way the whole narrative was presented was mostly symbolic. FWIW, I heard some other discussions (it might have been some rabbis) who made a lovely and very convincing suggestion that it wasn't just a small piece of Adam. They suggested that Adam was created as a whole human, and then was divided into two halves, a male half and a female half. ...As somewhat a feminist, I was touched to think that the woman wasn't just made from some small and relatively spare part as an afterthought, but an equal and essential part of humanity, from the generative moment. I might convert to whatever denomination suggested it. 😂