Star Trek: 10 Secrets About The Enterprise-A & Refit 1701 You Need To Know
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- No bloody A, B, C, or D - no wait.
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Also, re: the turbolift scene in V, the deck numbers should be decreasing as they go up. The bridge is Deck 1.
It was the Enterprise A. Nothing was done right on that ship... ;) Just ask Scotty.
@@neophytealpha ..........He even shouted, on the Hangar Deck, "They don't build them like they used to...." Leading to the FACT that Enterprise-Alpha was an entirely NEW ship, right off the assembly line. That nonsense about the Yorktown/Ti-Ho was misinformation. Our blithering host here forgot that Starfleet and related defence groups used shared tech and it was all modular construction. The Bridges came as modules that could be swapped out relatively fast, primary and secondary hulls could have wildly varying internal layouts.
@@LoneBrowncoat Yet they contradict it in other things. Like when the Enterprise Refit is referred to as being over 20 years old, and not getting a refit, and being retired, not long after the refit, when it was supposedly not long after the 5 year mission that it was put in drydock to refit it to what we saw in the movie that made it basically new. So even in canon they can't agree how old the ships are, and if it was new why was it retired so soon after commissioning? It was PUBLISHED that it was the Yorktown. Never addressed in canon whether it was new or renamed but much newer than the original Enterprise. Nor did they say if it was a new build or refit. They kept changing sets because they kept destroying existing ones or redressing them for other ships, so that they kept having to redo it.
@@neophytealpha As they say - "if your nose runs and your feet smell, you're built upside down"
@@LoneBrowncoat I think the in-universe answer is that it was being built as a different ship, and was commissioned as Enterprise-A instead when the -1701-no-bloody-a went kaboom.
The US Navy has done similar - started building a ship planning on it being one name, then renamed it immediately before commissioning. See, appropriately, the upcoming CVN-80. Ordered with no plan to be named Enterprise, it was declared to be the next Enterprise on the retirement of CVN-65 USS Enterprise.
IMO the refit Enterprise is the best looking of all ST Enterprises.
Unquestionably the best. My favorite. Peak design. Most majestic of all.
@@Wonderboywonderings Yes. It's the only one that looks like it's moving and is nicely balanced.
Agreed.
I like the defiant,enterprise E and F and voyager but the refit of the A is the most iconic and is really nice
Its nacelles look like the Enterprise E lol
The dish glows brighter at warp because it needs more energy to deflect particles because of fast speeds.
That's interesting but if you are warping space around you, the warp bubble you are in has nothing moving as the entire bubble moves so what would need to be deflected?
@Simr Khera Yup, and warp speeds are a real thing, as well.
Toilet warning reads " Do not use while in space dock". ( I guess crap and pee is vented out into space.)
except that the dish in the pre TNG era was not a deflector at all it is the main Sensor dish, the deflectors are the little nodules around the dish.
The deflector dish is also a navigation beam
When it came to the paint of the enterprise. Paul Olson was the one who painted the pearl Aztecs. His goal was to make it a shining opal. It worked for the motion pictures because the model was filmed with composites. In ST2 when ILM took over they used blue screen and the blue screen glare was the issue. They dulled the paint. Even at time dust it with white powder.
Was going to say just this. The model gets duller as STII progresses, as they added battle damage in chronological order. It remained dull for the blue screens until the Universal display team *shudder* spraaayed it graaaaaay. :.(
I have the HUGE 1/350 Scale Enterprise... AND I have the Exact "Aztec Patterning" AND the Exact Paints needed to do the job!
They actually used Several differently mixed "Pearlescent" White, Silver, White/Blue and White/Silver paints so that each panel set looked JUST a bit different! Otherwise even if they masked off each section... Once it was all clear coated it would have just all blended in and the effect would have been lost! I have the High Grade Lighting Effect Kit AND I the person I bought it from included a second set of Clear "Nacelle" inner Grills so that The Inner Ones can be cut out and CLEAR Ones inserted so that you can make BOTH SIDES of the Nacelles Glow! I will be doing the "Purple/Blue" combo as in "The Motion Picture" version! :D
@@j.s.connolly8579 cool. I have the same kit but haven’t got around to building it. Like most that build it. It will be the TMP paint job. I got the Orbital Drydock masks, Tenacontrols mega board, photo etched from HDA, paint guide from Trek Modeler. I’m just waiting for the time and a shop set to build it. I’m doing my nacelles in violet and impulse in amber. I’m painting the big registry number instead of decals. Same for the strong back.
Yep... that's the true story.
@@j.s.connolly8579 Published pictures anywhere?
The most beautiful ship in sci fi history.
Yes
In Star Trek I it was yes.
You talk about all the stuff we talked about in 5th grade like its new..interesting are u new Trek fans? If so awesome. If not, nice to highlight the quality of old Trek pre Alex Kurtzman dribble. Old trek made u think and was made by Craftsmen, new trek tells u what to think.
The Battlestar Galactica and the Battlestar Pegasus were really Sexy.
@@cjones3710 Jesus, shut the fick up.
Honestly don't know how Adam resisted making the Captains Log joke when Kirk sat on the nettie there.
Face it, ILM hated filming the re fit Enterprise.
The damage the Enterprise shows in ST:III is explained by cut battle footage that I remember seeing in a "made for tv" edit back in the mid 80's. You can see Spock referencing the damage on a screen when he tells Kirk "they knew exactly where to hit us".
That scene is on my dvd
This was the perfect ship. She was just beautiful.
I prefer the Whitestar from B5.
@@burstcity3832 I was thinking about ships within Star Trek specifically, but even still, I think this is probably my favourite ship from any science fiction franchise.
@@craigwilliams9279 In the Trek universe I think I'd agree.
@@burstcity3832 The BEST ship that is in science fiction is a ship you IMAGINE it
"Do not use while in spacedock"... Imagine sitting on the observation deck of the station and a steamer splats onto the window in front of you...
Captain's Log.
new take on "leaving a floater"
One of the cool things about the Yorktown being renamed Enterprise: it’s a reference to Roddenberry’s original name for the Enterprise in his original Trek concept. Any Yorktown in Star Trek will be renamed Enterprise.
Yep, I have the Eaglemoss Yorktown on the shelf above my desk.
The USS Enterprise (CV6) aircraft carrier was a Yorktown class. Could be referencing that. Yorktown herself was CV5.
It can't be the Yorktown cuz in Star Trek four when the probe went by the ship was do it and makeshift solar sail was the Yorktown too short of a time to have that brought in and renamed has to be another ship
Renaming Navy ships was not that uncommon in WWII, and before. So the precedent had been long set.
For me "Best destiny" was the last voyage of of the Enterprise-A. Amazing book that bridges James Kirk's first experience on the original Enterprise as a boy (just after The Kodos incident) and his final voyage on the Enterprise-A as captain.
The book title is also a reference to Star Trek The Wrath of Khan, just after the kobiyashimaru simulation when Spock gives Kirk his birthday present.
Deflector Dish: The faster you go, the further forward you need to start sweeping objects away. The deflector field intensifies and elongates forward as they accelerate. They show this thru colours changes I guess. Great video. xxx
The enterprise has two independant deflector system one for the navigational delectors that clears away micrometerorites and space debris. There is also the combat deflectors that are raised when they go into combat and you have that display on the bridge. The naviugational deflectors would need more power when the ship is at warp but very little when it is stationary. they can be turned off when at spacedock or a starbase.
The ship isn't actually moving at warp though, it's warping the space around it so wouldn't the debris be pushed around the ship along with the space it's moving with the warp field? I could see the deflector being needed for impulse speeds though.
I’m curious the Enterprise had that dish, but not other ships.
@@mindyschocolate the Reliant comes to mind.
no, the theory is a little confusing. the warp engines forms a bubble around the enterprise but the navigational shields are close to the ship. even micrometerorites residual damage is big. In the novels, an unshielded enterprise took micrometerorites
It's funny that the Enterprise's toilet says "Do not use while in spacedock". This implies that the starship has a direct flush toilet like a train :). And it shoots your poop out into space :D
If the brig is indeed on the lowest deck, sure. However, most point out that the “matter” used by the replicators is taken from the... err... waste recycling plant. (The new Admiral on Discovery outright admitted to it!)
@@joermnyc Yes. That's why I think the sign is meant as a joke. Even today's astronauts don't throw their poop into space.
It could also be that it's hooked up and cleaned out under pressure and you shouldn't use it while it's being serviced?
@@joermnyc yeah but replicators aren't definitely a thing until TNG. Due to set redressing of the 1701-D, the 1701-A has some food slots in quarters that look a lot like replicators but they have an actual galley, so they're probably more like the traditional synthesiser food slots we see in TOS, Discovery, etc. We have no idea if food synthesisers can use poo as a building material. Then again in Enterprise, it was stated that poo was recycled into boots (when that Earth class of schoolkids sends a bunch of questions to the NX-01).
Direct flush line, you say? Fire torpedoes!
The excuse for the different bridge sets: "swappable module bridge modules". Fair enough. 😎
They did keep blowing bits of it up!
Can you imagine borrowing something as expensive and iconic as the cinematic Enterprise model and thinking, "Eh, they won't mind if we cover all this intricate paint work with a blast of grey primer?"
Connie refit, the best ship in sci fi.
We all love Connie, she's a grand old lady that is easy on the eye and hard on her foes!
The Yorktown is significant in that she was the USS Enterprise CV6 of WW2 fame's sister ship.
And it was Roddenberry's original choice for the ship's name, but for whatever reason, he changed his mind.
Bizarrely the reference in Scotty's guide saying it was the Taihou as this was also the name of a Japanese WW2 aircraft carrier as well.
Enterprise B and C. We see VERY little of both, would love to know more.
Maybe next Tuesday
I'd like to see more of the VIP lounge.
Especially Enterprise-B...I have to call TrekCulture out on this one as he claims Enterprise-A has the shortest amount of screen-time. At two full movies, it's not even CLOSE to the least amount of screen time and it's obvious he's seen very little actual Trek if he thinks it is...😵
Enterprise-C only got ONE episode from TNG, "Yesterday's Enterprise" and yet even THAT is more screen-time than our much-beleagured by Tuesday vessel, the Enterprise-B, which only existed apparently to shoot Admiral Kirk into the temporal nexus as it only appeared in Star Trek Generations for pretty much JUST that scene...which also explained why Capt. Harriman and his crew have a strong dislike for a certain day of the week...😵😵😵😵🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes, out of all of the ship's in which any actual focus has been given within Star Trek, it is our woe-begotten Enterprise NCC-1701-B which earns the actual spot for shortest screentime period-blank...
We'll have to circle back to that
@@christopheralthouse6378 I just watched Generations and thought that Enterprise-B looked an awful lot like the Excelsior!
Really enjoyed this review. Two comments: a) The Ashes of Eden. I got to draw the graphic novel version of the story. Enterprise-A was a real challenge to get right; lots of subtle curves and delicate lines. So glad that you mentioned the novel - it made up for many of the short-comings of ST-V, some of which you pointed out. b) Really nice sweater!
Not to sound like a dick, but there was a GN of Eden? Published by Marvel?
a better follow on novel to ST6 is "Best Destiny" by Diane Carey...Ashes of Eden would take place some time later
It's my favorite ship of the entire Star Trek franchise. Nothing else comes close.
Best, most beautiful, most iconic, take your pick, the refit Enterprise was all of these
A replica kit was also used in TOS when another Constitution class was needed.
Constellation in the doomsday machine, doubled as the Excalibur in the Ultimate computer
Ah, yes. The U.S.S. Constellation was a replica kit with a melted nacelle in "The Doomsday Device." The remaster of that episode was a great improvement in the look of the Constellation.
There was a model used to show the enterprise through s viewport on space station K7 in The Trouble With Tribbles (per David Gerrold).
According to the 3rd edition of the Encyclopedia and Memory Alpha/Beta it's an AMT/Ertl model, and non written sources say it was going to be NCC 1710 originally but for u known reasons was changed to 1017
That's why the Constellation was numbered 1017 instead of something that made more sense.
The Stargazer or the Titan would be good to see
The Stargazer is one weird ship. Did it get all those tumours by keeping its subspace 5G antennae too close to the hull? I strongly second this request, even if I just made my own about the Excelsior.
The stargazer!!! Ermmm nope
Nor sure there's enough information on either to do a top 10.
In his monologue, Kirk literally says at the beginning of ST III that most of the trainee crew had been reassigned and removed, with David and Saavik also leaving for their new assignment.
I can believe the Enterprise-A might have been renamed from another ship, but it definitely hadn't been zipping around the galaxy yet. In Star Trek V, we see how the ship isn't ready and was rushed into service.
My belief is it was just coming off the assembly line, ready to be named, when they choose to call it Enterprise-A and gave it to Kirk for a shakedown.
i have read this ..it was yorktown but was also brand new
Wasn’t Yorktown the one Admiral Cartwright asked personnel to contact? The one with the Indian captain who’s chief engineer was trying to rig a makeshift solar sail?
Would that mean that that ship was lost and the ship that was the Enterprise was renamed twice?
@@Bartonovich52 It wouldn't have been that fast.
Not "assembly line". That is twentieth century manufacturing. Look at how Starfleet refitted the Starship Enterprise.
@@jennydavis4198 , I had heard it was the Republic.
Re Star Trek 5 - you forgot to mention the decks are also numbered ascending, whereas we all know that decks are descending from the bridge down. The Enterprise has 21 decks, and... there was a Star trek 5? Who knew?
Thank you. I was going to mention this same thing. I looked at the comments to make sure I wasn't repeating someone. LOL. Turns out I would have been. :-)
I guess if you're gonna screw it up THAT badly, might as well go the whole way. :)
I guess for anyone that wasn't a Star Trek fan wouldn't have noticed that but the first time I seen the movie I was like "Huh?" Not only that but in the movie Spock mentions that they overshot the bridge by three levels. lol. Herman Zimmerman talks about that scene but never mentions why there were so many levels.
I put it down as a joke by people with nothing better to do and were doing the numbers for every meter and not deck.
some ships had numbers and some used letters
Out of all Trek, the Refit and A is my favorite design of all of them. Super sleek and just awesome. I did have a model of it also when i was a kid, but got destroyed. Ironic lol
Excited to see this. My fav design of the enterprise 👌
LETS GO WITH THE REVENGE OF THE USS OBELISK THAT IS IN THE 25th CENTURY! Its a warship which has physical displacement drive and a liutenant commander as its backup Uber power source. WARNING! Made by a space nerd.
I do want to point out that reusing (and possibly redressing) sets has been common in movies for about as long as movies have been around. The most well know in the Star Trek universe is that the buildings Kirk and Edith Keeler are walking past in "City on the Edge of Forever" is the outside Mayberry set from "The Andy Griffith Show".
"Miri" and "Return of the Archons" also filmed exteriors on that location; and "the Cage" and "Errand of Mercy" filmed exteriors just up the lot, on the Arab Village set.
Bridge sets: 1/2/3/4 are virtually unchanged, nearly all the visual differences can be explained by different lighting and a coat of paint. The more drastic change for 5 was because in between 4 and 5 it became the TNG battle bridge, which itself isn't that dramatic of a change (a lot of the shapes are the same as the TOS film bridge). 6 is then also not that different from 5, but isn't quite the same since once they finished filming it went back to TNG use.
The flub with the excessive number of decks has always made me chuckle, since the first time I saw it.
Enterprise “A” wasn’t destroyed in search for Spock. It & “E” are the only ships of that name still in existence.
o.0
Don't forget the NX-01 which is in the fleet museum.
@Simr Khera I totally forgot lol In my defense it's been years since I really got into Trek. I totally forgot the one that went down in III was the original refit.
Great video! I love the ENTERPRISE refit. It IS the most beautiful starship ever filmed! ♥ I love the ST-movie era and the music scores by Goldsmith and Horner are just brillant!
The only redesign of the Constitution-Class that actually looks good.
The Enterprise Refit is such a beauty i even printed out a picture and framed it in a gold lined wood frame (so it looks like that typical old school nautical style)
Fun Fact: The USS Yorktown CVS 10 was originally named the USS BonHomme Richard
Which is also the name of a Constitution sub class
No its not
@@ColonelMetus Not a Fun Fact?
It is, listing all subclasses (taken from various media released under licence)
Original configuration:
Mk1 - Constitution
Mk2 - Bonhomme Richard
Mk3 - Archernar
Mk4 - Tikopai
Refit (Mk1 through 4) Enteprise
I'll agree to the latter, not the former.
I feel this video should be called 'The Search for Adam', he hasn't featured in a video for agesssss!
Adam has been, and always will be, your presenter.
"Do not use while in spacedock"
I suppose this establishes that, at least for TOS/TMP eras, they just shot it all out the airlock. That's a lot of turds flying around the galaxy at near-warp velocities.
Spock knocks on the door. Kirk shouts, "Don't come in! I have to take a shat 'n 'er!"
@@patricktilton5377 : Amusingly, it is definitely documented that Shatner´s favorite expletive on set was indeed _sh*t!_
Does anyone have _any idea_ of the momentum of a turd going at trans-lightspeed velocities?!
It makes the lethality of the _Deathstar_ look like a disposable Bic lighter. The potential disaster staggers the imagination.
Because of this, it should be _only_ while ported at Spacedock that one can use the toilet. All other times the crew has to just hold it in, and wait for a rest planet. _Why didn´t you go while we were at_ Shore Leave Planet!?
Somebody should remind Adam that at the end of ST6, The ENTERPRISE went "First star to the right, and straight on till morning"...:
Which means they are fetched up in Never-Never Land!
And if you think about it... The Nexus is where Kirk could never grow older.... then Picard came along
@@fredcasdensworld - yeaahhhhh....
Second star to the right.
I love the deflector dish levels thing. I think it actually makes sense if you think about it less as an 'indicator light', but possibly there's a sort of heating into incandescence or Cherenkov radiation occurring as the deflector powers on. After all, I believe the deflector is working when the ship is at warp to keep a faster than light micrometeorite strike from tearing into the ship.
I'm pretty sure Paul Olsen was the airbrush artist that did the 4 color pearlescent painting for TMP Enterprise miniature. He has an entire documentary and book about it.
The extra damage came from Sulu driving under the influence.
Well he was told to indulge himself...
no, it was another ex-wife of Kirk
@Simr Khera Here's the thing non of the novels were considered canon
FLY HER APART THEN
Great video! I agree with you on the "A" being the most iconic ship in Star Trek, even though it does not have as much screen time. I've always been in love with her! Regarding the deflector dish, I read somewhere that it was amber for standy, and blue for long-range sensors.
#4 Not only did Shatner fail the number of decks, why were the deck numbers _rising_ as they went up the shaft? Decks are always numbered from the top down.
She wasn’t blown up in Ashes of Eden, she was vaporised down to nothing in a plasma field. I’ve read that novel so many times it’s one of my favourites.
Plasma field? Wasn't it flown between two suns? Granted still not a place you want the ship to be....
@@fredcasdensworld yes technically it was a plasma bridge linking the two suns.
Yep. Right before Kirk left, he yanked the ship's plaque off the bridge
I've only just noticed the lights on the saucer are inconsistent. When the Enterprise leaves drydock in The Motion Picture she has three lights on the lower saucer but later on only the light shining on the NCC code is switched on.
I never quite understood the renaming of the Yorktown (or Taiho) to Enterprise in universe. Now, I get that for fans and for storytelling, it's more pleasing for the Enterprise-A to be another Constitution Refit class, but, in universe, if Starfleet has the power to re-christen any ship the Enterprise, why not rename the Excelsior? Ships named Enterprise are traditionally the flagship of the fleet, and nothing would be better than having your largest, most advanced ship to date be the new Enterprise. But, again, I know that storytelling wise, it made for a better reveal having it be a Connie.
THANK YOU so much for doing this! The Enterprise-A is hands-down my favorite of all the ships!
They used an off the shelf AMT USS Enterprise model for the USS Constellation, in the original TOS Episode "The Doomsday Machine". The shot of the AMT model was used again as the wrecked USS Excalibur, in the TOS Episode "The Ultimate Computer".
So nothing new for the model makers, for TMP "The Undiscovered Country", trotting down to a hobby store and buying an AMT model kit.
Quick supernerd-alert correction: the Yorktown was in fact not a refit nor was it active "doing star trek stuff" already. The Yorktown is part of a subset of a redesigned Constitution class design that in fact has major layout differences to the old refit Connies. So when they grabbed the Yorktown as the NCC-1701 A: she was barely even done with fitting out, something that is noted on with Scotty saying her systems aren't really set up right just yet much to his "displeasure" (because we all know the ole man loved working on getting the ship right how he wanted it).
That's why I don't understand why they retired the 1701-A after only 7 or 8 years of service.
She was launched in 2286 and retired around 2293 then the ne t year they launch the Excelsior class 1701-B. Doesn't make sense in universe.
Correction-correction. The Yorktown was one of the ships left adrift by the Whale Probe in ST:IV, do you recall the Captain talking about crafting a solar sail? That was from the Yorktown. They used a ship that had its systems heavily damaged, likely crew all dead, as the basis of the next iteration of the Enterprise. Then they wonder why it had all sorts of issues at the beginning of ST:V with just basic function.
@@AT2Productions in that case you would think they would've made the federation's flagship a brand new scratch build instead of painting enterprise on a busted up ship.
@@theamused8705 Not really, the Connie as a class was on the way out the door, and they were angling to push Kirk off active service sooner rather than later. Flagships aren't always the most advanced or capable ships, especially when in the case of a fleet-wide flagship. The Enterprise had that distinction for being the most resilient of the Connie's when it came to the 5yr mission profiles, and especially the exploits with Kirk in command. The redress of Yorktown into the Enterprise-A was both a compliment and a slap to Kirk after the events of ST:III and ST:IV, he was still sent to courts martial and still punished. Well, that ship was part of the punishment.
I prefer to think 1701-A was made out of spare parts like the Shuttle Endeavour. There could have been enough components for repairing Constitution class ships when Starfleet wound down the program that they could assemble one or more ships mostly from the spares and get the money's worth out of the parts. This could have been happening before STII, and Kirk destroying 1701 just made it easy to name one. It would also explain the why she had the problems in STV (she is freshly put together, and Scotty calling her a new ship), and the short service life (She is made out of the spare parts, so she's done at the first major overhaul if not earlier)
"The third act fell of a god dammed cliff.."
Pun intended?
I actually got to see the *3* Enterprise-D production models used for shooting when the former Las Vegas-based Star Trek: the Experience became Star Trek: the Exhibition and toured the country a few years back. An *awesome* experience i won't *ever* forget.
I got to see the big 6' model a few years back, awesome model!!
She will forever be the most beautiful starship in history of the universe 🖖🏻
For some reason, I can't see the Enterprise-A as an out-of-date _"clunker"_
*EDIT* - do 10 things you didn't know about the Scimitar!
I thought the USS Yorktown in Star Trek IV was a newer built Constitution-class and in for repairs from the Whale Probe incident. Enterprise in TMP was a testbed for the new technology.
Not a lot of Constitution-class ships made it home in the early days to be refitted.
Lost: Constellation, Intrepid, Exeter, Defiant.
Ship severely damaged by the M5 computer and we don't know if they could be repaired - Excalibur, Hood, Lexington, and Potemkin.
So out of the original 12 Constitution-class ships, 5 remain to possibly be refitted or Star Fleet scrapped the 4 remaining ships and just built new ones.
The name of the ship in the original Star Trek was supposed to be the USS Yorktown, then changed to Enterprise. Kind of neat if you think about it.
I like that the oldest ship in the fleet is the one that rushes in where angels fear to tread and battle the enemy's newest weapon to save the future
The 1701 original and her refit variant is and always will be my favorite Star Trek ship. Even the Phase II version.
The Enterprise NCC 1701 refit was the only time Starfleet ever did such a expansive refit
Which implies that the A was actually less modernized and would have taken Scotty a lot of work to get it up to speed
that's pretty surprising considering pretty much all modern US Navy capital ships get a mid-life refit at the same time their nuclear reactors are refuelled.
@@oldfrend Starships are a lot bigger a US Navy capital ship
@@leejohnstone2285 No, in fact, the TOS E was comparable in size to a US Navy aicraft carrier. Matt Jefferies showed us that explicitly.
I would like to see “10 Secrets of a D’Dederix (sp.?) class Romulan Warbird!
I have always thought those ships were awesome looking! But they also seemed so impractical that Romulans would never actually build something like that.
With regards to the battle damage from the Reliant between TWOK and TSFS, those marks should have been there. If you look at the scene when Kirk and Spock review the damage report screens, you will see these spots flickering on the displays. The only battle markings that moved were on top of the saucer. In TWOK they were on the bow, port side of the saucer. In TSFS they are on the stern, port side of the saucer.
You are correct that they were shown on the display but that could have only been referring to internal damage. The movements of the Reliant and the amount of hits they take don't suggest there was damage to the outer hull from the first attack. One phaser hit and one torpedo.
@@James-rn7dx That is certainly possible. If that is the case, then those ships are very fragile. However during the initial attack there are a few scenes where the ship shakes from being hit again and again. Mainly when the camera is showing the chaos in Engineering. You can also hear some explosions too.
I love that the NCC-1701-A was originally the Yorktown. When I was younger I played Star Trek the RPG and my Captain was captain of the Yorktown refit to the new design. It makes my old Captain, Captain Jonathan Drake, Proud to know that his old girl ended up in good hands and she continued to do her duty.
That is my favorite version of the Enterprise. I still have my MR Scott's guide to the Enterprise and I recently found a complete 79 model kit. I'm so wanting a light kit.
11:30 - Deck 78 was a nod to the 78 episodes of The Original Series. ;)
There were 79 though.
@@knightad33 And if you check IMDB, it lists only 78, and other sites list 79. This has been a debate for decades, and this was their answer to settle it once and for all, even though it is still not accepted by everyone.
In other words, it's a running gag, or the neverending story. ;)
@@knightad33 Is The Menagerie counted as 1 or 2?
The pearlescent paint job for the motion picture was made to work with a matt black background. In twok, ilm took over and brought in blue screen photography, which reflected on the paintjob and needed it to be dimmed. As for the bridge, there were union issues with the reused sets and a particular response was for shady people to come in and damage them regularly. In between movies, the damage was substantial enough for significant redesigns to filter through.
Really and truly the only visual changes from TMP and TWOK are that the stations are rearranged and it got a paontjob...
However, the station screens from TMP were all changed out and replaced for TWOK because whatever they were in TMP were loud enough that they had to redub all the shipboard audio from the movie... This is revealed in TMP DE commentary...
@@ColtCobra2002 In TMP, they were rear-projected 8 mm film loops, like the ones used in schools. The noise was from all the film loop projectors. This is because TV screens were difficult to film at the time due to the different frame rates between the TV and the film camera. By the time TWOK was produced, the technology improved enough so it was easier for the TV screens to sync with the film camera and they were used. Notice the screens in TMP are a little dimmer as the projectors were not as bright.
When they uncrated the bridge for the second movie, they noticed also someone had stolen the captain’s chair. That was a really expensive piece of furniture. They replaced all the chairs with cheaper versions that still looked pretty good.
@@Cydonia2020 Funny thing, The same thing happened on the Enterprise-D bridge set shortly before filming was set to begin on Star Trek Generations.
The 1701 refit was only seen in TMP, II & III. 1701-A was late in IV thru VI. I like to think that ST:V was apocryphal (not canon), but if it is, then I like to think those deck numbers in that turbo shute are not 'decks' as we know them, but maybe some other type of maintenance inner sections (4 per actual deck or so). I know, a stretch, huh?
Star Trek V may not have been the best movie of the series, but it does have one of Scotty's best monologues...
"USS Enterprise, shakedown crew's report. I think this ship was put together by monkeys. Aye, she's got a fine engine, but half the doors won't work. And guess whose job it is to make it right?"
Gets me every time.
Put together by Planet Of The Apes.
It’s downright criminal how the TNG era refused to use the Connie Refit. One thing I will never forgive them for.
Indeed, they had so many Excelsior-class ships (my favourite class btw), seeing an old Constitution ship in TNG would have been very nice!
In the original viewing of "The Trouble With Tribbles," the Enterprise that was orbiting the K-7 station was also an off the shelf Revel model of the Enterprise.
In "The Doomsday Machine" on TOS, it was clearly a Revel model that was used. All the other Constitution Class (12 total at the time) had 1700, 1701, 1702, etc. as their hull numbers EXCEPT the USS Constellation......they just used the decals in the box and voila....her hull # was 1017. The special effects of the Constellation were so primitive in the un remastered originals that a couple of times you could actually see the strings holding up the $3 model...and it jiggled a couple of times. Didn't notice as a kid. The first VCR tapes you could see this on. Now they have all been re mastered and what I described is HARD to find, so it's now rare. I have a tape, but not a VCR in sight...so I don't know the condition of the tape. But tapes will deteriorate over time and this one is right at 30 years old as it is and probably been that long since I even watched it.
AMT not Revell!!
@@James-rn7dx Bear with me, I'm dealing with 50+ year old memories.
@@davidalexanders540 I read an article a few years ago about and organization that was attempting to digitize EVERY SINGLE motion picture/tv show EVER put to tape. Haven't run across anything concerning their efforts in awhile. I'll have to do a web search. It's great that there are those who are trying to preserve these filmings. A good many only exist in VHS (or the like) form!
@@James-rn7dx oops...you're right.....AMT...not Revel...I should have known. I built the first Enterprise 3 times at the age of 9 before I FINALLY figured out how to set the thing correct to glue the warp nacelles in place so the things didn't look droopy. Proud of that thing at the time. Went on to build more....culminating in the (expensive in 1994 at $90) the light up version of the Enterprise D. Took me a YEAR to cut the windows out, run the wiring to all the tiny windows, deflector dish, bridge, and warp engines. Had it displayed for a year. Then we had a fire in early fall 1996. Lost everything except for my brass belt loop key ring I bought day 1 on my one and only ship in the Navy. Still have it. I have worn it every day since 1978. It gets buried with me..or cremated...haven't decided...don't plan on feeling anything that particular day....LOL
I think the reason the Enterprise A still needed a shake down was because while the ship had been built and was going to be named USS Yorktown prior to Star Trek IV, I don't believe it hadn't actually been launched yet. It was a brand new ship that, unlike it's predecessor, had been built from the ground up as a Constitution refit. The same might be true of the Enterprise E as well. It was a new ship, fresh out of the shipyard that was re-named before it was officially commissioned and put into service.
Actually, parts from the Enterprise D's bridge were salvaged and incorporated into the Enterprise E, implying final construction wasn't complete when the ship was selected to be the new Enterprise.
"The bridge science station and forward support struts have minor damage because they are from the wreckage of the Enterprise-D; the officer’s lounge table was also reclaimed from the Enterprise-D."
Incorrect about the bridge set from V & VI in TNG. The battle bridge and all the other redressed sets were the bridge from III & IV. Shatner wanted an entirely new bridge set for V and Herman Zimmerman created/built a new one. Yes, V & VI's bridge became the B bridge and observatory, so correct there. In the non-canon comics between II & III, they battle the Klingons leading the additional battle damage.
I like the extra damage, and could easily see it as tertiary damage after the battle. Like in VOY Year of Hell when systems just fail over time from compensating for damaged/missing components. It also helps explain how the ship was so feeble in III. After some repair time both in space and spacedock, you'd think it'd be better off than at the end of II - but if they spent all that time repairing additional damage, it makes sense.
It's all the same set, it incurred some water damage after STIV... It shows up throughout TNG and DS9... The Stargazer, The Ent C, the Bozeman, the Saratoga, Courtroom from Measure of a Man, Armagossa Observatory...
On a tangent, I would love to see a revised version of ST TMP's budget taking into account all the mileage they got out of those sets...
the deflector dish was used while traveling in space on impulse the softer the light it was used to deflect space debris like asteroids. but when at full power it would deflect space particles at warp.
Other videos of interest: the Klingon D-7, the Klingon Bird of Prey (all classes), and the Miranda Class
For races, the lore evolution of the Vulcan Race.
About the BoP, it'd be interesting if somebody addressed how it's bridge changed so much from ST III to ST IV. The vulcans seem to have done a piss poor refit when they fixed the battle damage to that ship
At about two light-years from the Sun, the only light you'll have will be starlight and the Milky Way, which will be about as bright as a fat crescent Moon but spread across the entire sky. _TMP_ was correct in this regard: it's dark out Thataway.
Great video! There's also the fact that the refit has two glaring errors. 1. The Recreation Deck is two decks high, but can't be because it's on the edge of the saucer and extends inwards - the saucer has a concave form underneath so isn't two decks high. 2. A corridor is seen heading out (forward) from engineering in the opposite direction to the warp plasma conduit feeding the nacelles (when Kirk tells Decker he's taking over). Except that's the front of the engineering hull so it can't exist. Sorry - nerd! (not sorry)
The best ship ever made. Loved the refit is the best version.
I always loved the refit Enterprise, with the Enterprise B being an extremely close second.
They should've made the 1701-B a standard Excelsior instead of adding those awkward parts to it.
@@theamused8705thank you, I've been say that for years
@@theamused8705 But I like the awkward parts, I said sheepishly. :)
@@AnthonyWLeone lol yeah many people do.
I'll take an Enterprise C, please.
Actually I prefer the Intrepid class, but we're talking Enterprise here.
@Simr Khera Khan, how has it never occurred to you that despite your DNA being tweaked to it's apex perfection... you're still not superior to a half Vulcan?
Thank you Adam that was VERY ENJOYABLE!! Loved all the points you brought about the ENTERPRISE in the motion pictures (especially the EXTRA damage in ST III), but you still have to LOVE HER!!
The worsening battle-damage probably came from the noobish cadets trying to "repair" the ship and they slipped more than once with the welding tools and probably used phasers instead. Which perhaps caused some miiiiinor explosions on the hull ^_^
It´ll buff right out...
It's not 80's spaceship design--it's 70s! Remember when TMP came out.
Maybe from the 70s but to my eye it doesn't look dated at all. They did a great job with the design of all the movie models as they would still look great on the screen today.
@@James-rn7dx I still call it the best Enterprise design ever. I just don't like people calling it a pinnacle of 80s/90s design when it isn't.
sorry, major pet peeve of mine on #5 I know that many Trekkies do not understand this but us old school fans remember the old days, that glowing dish on the front of a starship was not the deflector dish until TNG the deflectors were the small nodules at 3, 6, and 9 o'clock around the dish. the dish itself was the primary sensor... not the deflector.
The NCC 1701 USS Enterprise is indeed the most iconic of all of Star Trek’s hero ships. It was just perfectly redesigned.
actually I thought the original Enterprise looked more like something that we'd see in the future not necessarily on the 1960s TV show for its time it was a great design that even the US Navy thought the bridge was worth emulating. Comparing the final ncc-1701 design compared to the various sketches and exploring designs they got it right. They managed to build on the original Enterprise design fine-tuned it for the movies.
So it took professional special-effects technicians to assemble that off-the-shelf Enterprise model and get the damn nacelles to set straight, because I built three or four of them as a kid and could never do it.
I built probably half a dozen myself and the engines either drooped or snapped off. Thank goodness for the 1:350 scale version. A friend of mine helped design that and he made damn sure those engines were not going to snap off.
You're not the only one, I built two of them and even with the best glue I could find... it was like there was a magnetic field keeping the bond from happening, so I did the next logical thing, I took a hammer to them and made space debris for a diorama.
@@Cydonia2020 The problem was mainly due to the lighting feature which I never used.
Yeah, what idiot thought, I know why not put lights on the nacelles. Putting wires through the narrowest joined section of the entire model will surly cause structural issues, but at least I'll look good in a darkened room.
@pbz31374 I wish I could pass on your thanks and gratitude. Unfortunately, my good friend passed away several years ago due to diabetes. But I did have the fortune of inheriting a great deal of his work, including piles of his beautiful decals. Thomas also provided decals for the actual refurbished USS Excelsior (turning into the Lakota and other ships), worked on the model of the Starfury and Babylon 5 station and refurbished the USS Voyager kit. He was an incredible talent.
I have signed a copy of Scotty's Guide to the Enterprise signed by James Doohan.
"Make it Stupid; Make it Shatner." Seriously???? WHAT a line!!!!!
The bridge in Star Trek VI is absolutely gorgeous. My all time favorite.
One of my favorite Christmas tree ornaments I own is of the movie Enterprise.
I have Picard's ship and a klingon cruiser. Lit too.
I bought when about 3 years ago. It's been hanging in the dining room, since.
@@rodroyal1779 Picard's ship? Which one?
@@redshirtveteran5688 the one from the tv show
@@rodroyal1779 The Enterprise-D then?
My favorite Star Trek ship of all despite it's weaknesses without shields. He is right in everything he pointed out, but that's Paramount saving money in some cases. I used to have that off the shelf model as a young teen.
The Enterprise NCC-1701-A was the BOSS. Because A stands for ALPHA!!
Seriously. The late 70s re-fit design is still my fav to this day because it really looks sleek, elegant, sexy and just badass timeless.
As a kid this was actually my favorite Enterprise model. I have the Star Trek 4 version and the one that Lit Up. I always thought the bridge design was very cool and futuristic from Star Trek V even way better looking than the enterprise-d Bridge
The ships I always wondered about were the Olympic class, like the U.S.S. Pasteur.
Why's it sphere shaped?
Why don't they have more Starships like it?
I always thought it was kinda cool looking.
Sphere shape is light to answer. Its hospital ship, sphere has much more inner space than saucer. And Pasteur was in alternate time line, so maybe this class even don't exist in prime time line
It's not just it's physical beauty but how the ships were filmed. Like subamrines stalking each other in the slow moving deep. It made the ship to ship battles all that more epic.
They brought back the original crew so many times for so mamy years, that arthritis was a bigger threat than any klingon fleet lol
With that say, the retrofitted A was the best looking one ^.^
My favorite of all the Enterprise ships is NCC-1701-D! And I love the special effect of how it looks when it goes into warp!
The one in Star Trek V is _not_ the only toilet, just look at three Kelvin-verse movies, three seasons of Discovery, one season of Picard and one season of Lower Decks: Exactly. Crap everywhere.
Also, while it was never shown on screen, 1701-D has a bathroom on the bridge.
@@Saavik256 Yeah you see people walking in and out of it all the time on the show.
I see what you did there...
Great breakdown - I am using it to aid in research for my own cg breakdown videos. :)
For the bridge changes in the last 2 movies, you have to remember that the original 1701-A was destroyed in ST3. However it does seem that there was a massive change between ST4 and ST5, and not so much in ST6, or even Generations (aboard the Enterprise B). But if you think about it, even the Excelsior bridge changed between ST3 and S6. I mean it is hinted at in various movies that the Etnerprise underwent refits from time to time, so that might be the explanation here for a different bridge. Plus the exact time line between the movies is not really known, all we know is that they presumably are progressive as time goes on, so events in ST1 occured before ST4 for example.
Out of all the ST TOS movies, ST 5 was probably my least favorite. I mean the plot seemed to be off the beaten path a bit, as it was about some mad-man that was Spock's half brother that had some crazy plan to find this "forbidden" planet, whereas the rest had a more elaborate story. My favorite was probably ST4 to be honest.
I think you've done all the main federation ships, so how about a Secrets of a Borg Cube?
The USS Yorktown was also the ship whose crew who were struggling to maintain life support due to the arrival of the Whale Probe causing power failures. They were deploying a makeshift solar sail. The horrific implication is that the Yorktown was available to become the Ent-A because they were unsuccessful and all suffocated to death.
Yorktown was a bad ass ship, she never gave up, she was tough, took a lot of damage could not be sunk and limped back to port.
If you looked closely on the toilet it read " caution do not use while in space dock" which means toilets empty out into space once flushed.
That also explains why Enterprise-A had so many problems. The damage from the whale probe when she was the Yorktown.
You are amazing Adam. All this info just pours out of you - you are such a natural presenter. Great video
... Anything about Tinman we don't know? Even though it was only one episode of Star Trek TNG, it was always one of my favorites.