Ashkenazi and Sephardic Israelis: Why do you think this land belongs to you more than Palestinians?
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The guy at 10:00 is a typical case of “I don’t believe in God but I belive God gave us this land”.
All of them are. I bet none of them ever read the scriptures out of love for god. Theyre satanists. They worship money and materialism. Theyre even mentioned in all the scriptures
He’s right either way
@@MilesDavis-hb7ldYeah, he’s right, there is no God
It's still the land of his people
@@MilesDavis-hb7ld 🤣🤣
the word "Se[hardic" (Spanish) doesn't mean they are from spain lol... that means that they follow the Halachic rules made by RAMBAM (rabbi moshe ben mimon) who was living in spain. that's why the jews that called "sephardic" are called like this. glad to help
Thanks.
And they lived there for hundreds of years and flourished, and ran away when Christians took over with Muslims, and now they are biting the hand that fed and protected them
And where was rambam born my friend? Muslim Spain.
Youre right.
The correct way to say it is "Mizrachi"(eastern)
You are deflecting from the main point. If Sephardic doesn't mean they are from Spain, it doesnt mean they are from Palestine.
Arabic is Semitic language
Arabs are Semitic people
... And Benjamin Mileikowski Netanyahu is the grandson of Nathan Mileikowski born in Kreva Belarus East Europe🇧🇾🇧🇾🇧🇾
So who is anti Semitic again???
no such thing as semitic people
If a Palestinian is born in a refugee camp in Lebanon or in south America, are they now ethnically Lebanese or have ethnic origins in south America
Judea belongs to the Jews. Arabs fought them and LOST (TWICE). So shove it.
Arabs ain't Semitic that was a Muhammad lie 😂 ain't no proof of Arabs descending from Abraham futhermore Arabs are indigenous to Yemen
@@Kmc1qlAq8Dt6tpVC by that logic egyptians was owned whole country much before than Jews :D if they claim its my land what will happend to promised land ? :D:D
The holy land argument makes no sense, if that were true then Americans would hand our land back to the native Americans
This is the first argument.
Secondly, Jews have always remembered their roots, no matter where they lived. This has been proven historically, in writing and verbally in their prayers.
Thirdly, because they are there now. As one of them said, "Now it's finally ours, and that's how it's going to be."
@@annaan8232 Many jews are converts and thus do not originate from the Levant.
@@annaan8232 How is a fantasy book "historically proven"?
@@annaan8232 ur little fairy tail books is not history
I dislike Israel but this is a bad argument, you argument is stating that instead of right of heritage, it goes by right of conquest, but if was right of conquest then the Holy Land is rightfully Israeli
Jews from Yemen were never "Spaniards". Those who are called "Spadi" are those whose ancestors were expelled from Spain at the time the Jews were expelled from Spain, most of those Jews immigrated to North Africa. The ancestors of the Jews of Yemen immigrated from Jerusalem before the destruction of the First Temple and remained there until 1949. (The majority) So there are Ashkenazim, and there are Sephardim and there are Yemenites, you can call the Sephardim and Yemenites "mizrahim"
Exactly!
Yemenites Jews have a very distinct culture and history, I think it's even fair to call them their own Eda.
Did the Ethiopean Jews immigrate also from Jerusalem? And do they share the same DNA as the Ashkenazi Jews?
@@kwilla2001 it’s unknown exactly where the Ethiopian Jews came from, but they most likely came from those in Yemen, so they are related.
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There was a time period when any Jew who was not Ashkenazi was automatically called Sephardi.
As a New Zealand citizen, we don't consent to giving these people our land either. The arrogance
That's why we chose to build our country in our native homeland. We don't need land from anyone 😉
@@ChenShaham And did it by kicking other people out, making them second class citizens, and now ethnic cleansing and genocide. Well done.
@ChenShaham Stole. Not built
@@AmitArtz Built, not stole
@@ChenShaham And now occupying, settling, ethnically cleansing, and Gnociding. Congrats
إسرائيل هي الدولة الوحيدة بعد 80 سنة من تأسيسها ما تزال تطرح أسئلة شرعيتها في الوجود ..
السبب هو أنها تأسست بطريقة فريدة، دعوة جميع يهود العالم للتجمع في أرض تاريخيا كان يعيش فيها اليهود..
لكن هذه الأرض لم تكن أبدا و في أي مرحلة من التاريخ لم تكن أرضا خالية، حسب التناخ أبراهام جاء من العراق و سكن فلسطين التي كانت مسكونة بالكنعانيين، و حتى موسى بعدما خرج من مصر و عاد ببني إسرائيل إلى فلسطين كانت هذه الأرض مسكونة بشعوب أخرى.. كذلك عندما ظهرت الحركة الصهيونية الحديثة كانت فلسطين مسكونة بالعرب و الدروز و غيرهم من القوميات ..
حق تقرير المصير لليهود لا يعطيهم الحق في إلغاء حق تقرير المصير لسكان فلسطين ..
كذلك حق العودة لليهود لا يجب أن يمنع اللاجئين الفلسطينيين أو العرب الذين خرجوا في هذه الحروب من العودة..
الأنبياء مثل إبراهيم و اسحاق و يعقوب و اسماعيل و موسى و يسوع ليست حكرا على دين واحد، الاسلام مأخود أغلبه من اليهودية، كذلك اليهودية كثير من قصصها مقتبسة من أديان سومر و آشور و حتى الأدعية و الصلوات و الكثير من التصورات عن الحياة بعد الموت مقتبسة من معتقدات المصريين القدماء..
لذلك لا أرى أن " الرب " يلعب دور منعش عقارات فيعطي أو يعد شعبا بأرض و يترك الشعوب الأخرى..
في السياسة الإسرائيلية الحالية هناك تجاذب بين قوتين متنافرتين : دولة يهودية و ديمقراطية .. كلما زادت نسبة الديمقراطية تقل نسبة اليهودية .. والعكس صحيح ..
تحياتي للجميع .. و سبت سلام لكم جميعا.
there was no "palestine " mentioned in the quran , read it again
This is actually a great post
Thanks for youtube translator lol. Given that Palestinian right to self determination conflicts with the right for self determination of Jews this situation will continue. It is not even about historical claim; a lioness is never shared by two lions... currently Israel is more successful in establishing its right for self determination. There is no world authority that establishes it, only force. So this is a dead end,
- today there are more Jews in Israel than probably ever was, and it just doesn't align with the national aspiration of Palestinians.
No Islamic. Zero mosquitoes
@@Phone-sh7jgbro is Christian he's not a Muslim
The entire country should get their heritage tested.
1. If you had the minimal interest you would know plenty of Jews publish their results online, the results are often 99% or even 100% Jewish
2. I’m flattered that you have a fascination with my blood, hopefully you don’t have that amount of fascination with what comes out of my body. But if you think your interest in my blood can give you the right to redraw borders and move people around, especially if you apply it only to Jews in the whole world, and you think you are a good person and are seeking justice, maybe you should ask yourself if that is the optimal way to justice.
Jewish dna has been widely researched and published. Its not a mystery
@@Nomad1992 Okay, perfect. So now maybe we can see the DNA tests of Bibi Mileikowsky. You know, just to see how much Semite blood is really in him.
@@Nomad1992Okay, perfect. So now maybe we can see the DNA tests of Bibi Mileikowsky. You know, just to see how much Semite blood is really in him.
@@Nomad1992Okay, perfect. So now maybe we can see the DNA tests of Bibi Mileikowsky. You know, just to see how much Semite blood is really in him.
The fact that Jews came to Spain from the Palestine region still doesn't mean they have an eternal right to a certain land after millenia of exile. Otherwise we would have to help Greece to invade Turkey, for example, since the Turkey used to be Greece.
This isn't such a bad idea, until a hundred years ago areas of modern western Turkey had majority Greek areas that were present there for 3,000 years
@@BobSquarepants-k9b Right!? Give back the Greek lands Turkiye!
שלום your rhetoric doesn't make sense. Greeks aren't from Turkey. They conquered it and established a civilization. A better example would be the Turks claiming cities in Mongolia or w.e. Original Turks are from that area.
They seem to think it does!
@@Snpiedog Whatever, you know that logic can't hold, you just proved with your example of Turks being from around Mongolia, but having no rights to claim land there today. Argument that somebody came from somewhere so he has eternal right to that land is clearly dumb so stfu about "rhetoric" .
Thank you Corey for your work 👏🏻
"Who are the Palestinians?" If you can't see how that question alone is part of the problem then all is lost.
A valid question.
Ask why arabs are more indegineuos while Palestine, come from philistine, which describe invaders? Why those Palestinians called themselves invaders but at the same time they claim to own the land of isreal?
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla great question
It is a valid question. If you asked the Romans or the Ottomans, "who are the Palestinians?" you would get different answers. (They might even call the Jews Palestinians?) Also, how many who identify as Palestinian are descended from Arab conquerors? Does that matter?
@@davidfarrell4289it does matter. They call Jewish land Palestine with the name from philistine to humiliate Jews by calling them invaders. Now they are having a new identity as isrealis. But i mean why arabs called themselves invaders? Isn't there better options? Why Palestinians? I will never identify myself with the name give to humiliate myself. 😅 It doesn't make any sense calling themselves invaders while claiming to be indigenous to the land they being called as invaders. Jews of Palestine never identify themselves as Palestinians (source Golda Meir interview)
Thanks for the the people in the video who believe in co-existence and living in peace and love.
Imagine if we based all our arguments from 2000 years ago most people will own anything
5000 years even more ridiculous regardless they were terriost that betrayed the only people that let them in no america no Europe no no no where this how you treat people that were kind let you stay in the homes ....with evil betrayal the hagana zionest evil mindset
@@ANCD-i4d imagine indeed I go to Spain and claim someone's land and house because my forefathers used to live in the area
@@theoutsider078 and imagine the gall of the few real Palestinians whose ancestors were forcibly expelled, coming back in 2000 years saying they have any right to come back to their ancestral lands...
oh and while you're imagining that, why don't you tell me when those Palestinians' right to return to their ancestral lands is extinguished
@@Noam_Sane The people before the Bronze Age in the Levant were closest to Sardinians. If you even have the intelligence to know where that is. The problem is the Levant had at minimum 4 distinct major ancestries by the time we get to 1500 BC. Definitely many of these so-called "Palestinians" are immigrants from another region as well.
@@aaronwood161 I'm not sure why you felt it necessity to insert an insult into what is otherwise interesting information. Maybe it makes you feel better. I don't mind being curably ignorant.
Oh also, what? Your comment is a complete non sequitur
You should ask Palastinias why they think Jerusalem belongs to them more than Israelies
Because it does
@ruqayyapervaiz5366 no it is not Jerusalem is jew capital from King David Kingdom
@@ruqayyapervaiz5366 when a muslim prays he faces away from jerusalem but the jews always pray towards jerusalem
They were there since the beginning of time. There are Palestinians Muslim Christian’s and Jews . Judaism is a religion anyone can be Jew
@@thefatherofwilliamit's actually a very difficult process to convert to Judaism, so no, unlike Islam and Christianity not everyone can simply convert to Judaism. Most jews today can trace their roots (via DNA tests) to the Levant. But there's no equivalent test that you can do to "test" for Christianity or Islam. Judaism in the diaspora was historically always viewed as both an ethno-national group and a religion.
Sephardi means spanish but is a bit of a misnomer as it refers both to ethincally sephardic jews, as well as the Mizrahi Jews of North Africa and the middle east. Mizrahi were heavily influenced by sephardic culture after jews fled to their countries after being expelled from the Iberian peninsula. However ethincally they can be descendent from jews who always lived in MENA or a combimation of multiple ethnicities.
The terms of ashkenasi, sephardi, mustarabi, mizrahi, etc describe Jews' migration.
@@aryebognar6663 exactly . So Jews who migrated from Spain to to MENA and lived there for centuries with Jews who had already been living there share genetic markers from multiple groups. I only make this distinction because in the video the question makes it sound like Jews came from Spain to places where Jews had not already been living and were completely ethnically and culturally "Spanish" or "European" before moving to Israel, which is more the case. It seems like even some of the Israelis who were asked were not even aware of this but DNA testing on most Sephardic/Mizrahi Jews proves this. This as well as sharing cultural practices that are definitely more associated with the MENA region.
@@DanielSmith-sp5fjactually the Eastern Sephardim already migrated back to the Ottoman Syria and Palestina in 15-16th century after the Spanish Inquisition and many of them even converted to Islam and were assimilated to Arab people. That is why there are Israeli Arabs who have surnames such as Abu Hasira and Abulafia which are of Sephardic origins.
Thus, even if the people choose to believe that Sephardic Jews are Spaniards who converted to Judaism, they have been assimilated with the rest of the Jewish people for many generations.
Why would Sephardi Jews who converted and have been assimilated to Arabs have rights as Palestinians but the Sephardi Jews who don’t and have been assimilated with the rest of Israelis have no right?
North African jews are Sephardic not Mizraħi . Middle Eastern Jews are Mizraħi
@@EAlyahya I didn't completely understand your question. I didn't say anything about anyone not having rights.....
"Most Zionists don't believe that God exists but they do believe he promised them PALESTINE"
- Ilan Pappe
That is because Jewish is a nationality you dimwit!
most pro palastinians don't belive jews should have a state but belive muslims should have 57 states out of which 22 are arab states , and also the rest of the world.
@@The_Voice_of_Reason_is_here They will have many October 7, this is just the beginning Islam always prevails 🕋🤲
@@Mohammedabdallah-ee7ssnah they’re too cowardly and weak. The only people they can beat are their wives 🐫
@@Mohammedabdallah-ee7ssdid you think that October 7th was worth it after the response?😂
If they do it again they completely lost their mind
Remarkably simplistic question!
They're in Israel now, they were in Morocco before, and they were in Spain before that.
Why would someone start at that point in history.
Jews are characterized as Sefardim or Ashkenazim (as well as others). This isn't too suggest that they originated from Spain or Europe - duh!
They were all expelled from the land of Israel.
I could be more tolerant and go along with the "every question is a good question" line, but this question is almost always brought by antisemites as another attempt to eradicate our connection to the land of Israel.
Israelis are Antisemites. They are genociding the Semitic Palestinian people and destroying Semitic lands. Even in ancient times there were many other tribes living along side the Israelis. Like the Canaanites whose descendants are the Palestinians. Judaism is a religion not a state.
Then if we took a DNA test for all those immigrants they all should have a common factor right?
11:16 i like this guy he told the truth and saved a lot of time for everyone, man i conquered it that is why its mine. if they reconquered it back its theirs.
last guy is simple and honest atleast
The question is phrased in an assumptive accusatory tone that immediately puts people in a defensive mode. You should have rephrased it to "do you think...? " and "why?"
Agree, but to be fair he did specify it’s not his question a couple of times. But yeah I don’t blame people ignoring this biased question.
Any question to a Jew puts them on defensive mode. You can’t unsee it, it’s strange
@@fitafanatomy3359 Such great wisdom gentile, on account of your great wisdom I’ll be voting for Smotrich and I wish for your gentile country to be ruled by Zionists, each snd every one of them
@@fitafanatomy3359 May your country be ruled by Zionists gntile
@@fitafanatomy3359 I’ll remember that at the voting booth
Archaeology , science. Indigenous people. You can go on and on how it was wish repurchased at a huge price from the British. The Arab was Jordan.
@@Killerb1235321 Israelis no longer chosen people they rejected prophet Muhammad pbuh
Indiginous to the Volga and Donbas, you are Khazars. Purchased from who they had a mandate to govern the land from the local people, not hand it over to alien terrorists who bombed them and ultimately drove the British out.
Indigenous to Central Park maybe or Martin Luther king ave in New York , Haifa is not yours al Quds is not yours Nazareth and Bethlehem will never be yours tel aviv is not even yours you just built a city for the true indigenous once the door hits you on the ass when you phuck the hell off, it’s yours because you conquered it , it will be reconquered and this time protected so you never return
@@Mohammedabdallah-ee7ss so you're saying G-d is a liar? since he gave his word to keep the covenant with the Jews for ever and ever, well then you are not a Muslim too, because you just said G-d is a liar
Jordan doesn't take them though no no
The question is why did Jews come to Europe in the first place? They exiled from the Land of Israel because of the conquest of different missionary empires such as the Hellenistic, Roman, Islamic, Ottoman and other empires. Jews had to flee! Even those who were in Spain fled in the deportation of Spain to other countries in the Middle East. Jews in Arab countries underwent ethnic cleansing.
The fact is that there is no safe place for Jews and Jews should live in their own country. Probably in the country where they were created and arose as endigines
Jews came to Europe because the Roman empire exiled them to places they ruled in Europe.
You have to ask why Jews need a "safe country of their own". What are they doing in every country they enter that is so abhorrent that they have been kicked out of over 100 countries in history? Could be things like where it says its ok to sexual abuse children as long as they are under 9 years old under Talmudic law
bla bla bla. its Palestine. get over it. the nazi apartheid will fall. there will be 1 country Palestine.
@vikiben according to a Jewish professor they mostly left voluntarily.
@@theoutsider078 Rome forced out most around 70 CE. Yes, they had to flee in the face of Crusader and Muslim threat! Your Jewish professor is wrong.
God. There are so many things wrong here... Let's just start with the question which shows such ignorance. The fact that you call the people who are not Ashkenazi - "Sephardi". That in itself is wrong. It's important what word you use. Sephardi are a small minority of the people who are not Ashkenazi and they usually came from places like Greece, Turkey, maybe Bulgaria and a minority of the Jews from North Africa and some of the Jews in the land of Israel. These people have a unique heritage like the Ladino language which resembles Spanish a bit and was to the Sephardi Jews what Yiddish was to the Ashkenazi Jews. And I think that they are indeed descendants of Jews that were expelled from Spain in the 15th century. BUT, most of the non Ashkenazi Jews are what we call MIZRAHI (eastern) Jews. They come from ARAB countries. They didn't necessarily come to the middle east from Spain. Some lived in these Arab regions for millennia and their language was ARABIC.
Now to be fair I would add that in Israel also these names - Sephardi and Mizrahi are used in an ambiguous way to refer to non Ashkenazi Jews without a distinction. That's why many of the people you interviewed agreed when you told them - so you are Sephardi? even though many of them were probably Mizrahi and not Sephardi. I think that ambiguity stems from the fact that many Mizrahi Jews prefer people to connect them to Spain rather than the Arab world which is considered more primitive. If they'd say they were Mizrahi, people would know that they came from an Arab country. If they say they're Sephardi, it's like not exactly clear if they came from the Arab world or they come from the true Sephardi community which is more connected to the Jewish-Spanish heritage.
Maybe people should just let jews identify however they want?
A Mizrahi Jew like my grandmother was also Sephardi. Sephardi is not just an indication of the areas you were born but also the halacha and traditions you follow. Mizrachim are Sephardi.
@@arielaw4 No, certainly not in the sense that Sephardi indicates your origin from Spain, like Corey says in his video. While Mizrahi and Sephardi Jews may share traditions and halacha, they come from different areas and different origins. Just Google it, you'll find the answer.
@@arielaw4 My reply to you was censored. They don't let me post it again.
@@arielaw4exactly, it’s not that crazy if you think about it halakhically. Edot are not ethnicities, that is a 20th century concept. Sephardic Jews are called that because they follow the Sephardic rite, which the vast majority of Jews living in the Middle East have used for 500 years…
In earlier years, this was my favorite channel. I used to be so happy with each new video but I began to lose interest. The responses don't seem to add anything to my understanding of Israel, Palestine, Judaism, or Islam. Jews tend to be more open and express a wider range of opinions but nothing unexpected. Palestinians in the West Bank express the required anti-Zionist mantra. Israeli Arabs express a wider range of opinions. Reading the comments is a nightmare. Thoughtful comments are overwhelmed by knee-jerk stupidities from idiots wanting to further their agenda, often anti-semitic and not relevant. I am not sure why this channel worked better in the early days. Maybe all the questions have already been asked.
very well said
Perfectly worded. Agreed
Openness and acceptance is a luxury. If jews were the ones who were thrown out of their homes by foreign colonists and then bombed into shreds, they would have also expressed hate and xenophobia like Palestinians do. You are so out of touch.
@@Masterchef97 that's a pretty ignorant remark. Jews could and do have beef with everyone from ancient Egyptians to Romans to Catholics, Germans, and definitely Arabs. Palestinians are not the only of the first to suffer in this world.
@davidk2471 You're the ignorant one. I didn't say jews didn't suffer. But they aren't suffering now. They're not getting genocided by Ancient Egyptians right now, are they? Disgusting.
the land belongs to whomever is strong enough to hold it. like it or not this is the way of the world throughout human history. the palestinians aren't strong enough to hold it.
They never had it in the first place to "hold" it
@kobi
Keep yapping lil bro
We can fix that.
Neither the Zio state if the US wasn't babysitting their a**.
@@lastStand20 yeah with your hands in red, having pulling ppl organs from their bodies
No land belongs to any particular religion
Mankind have always occupied land based on power and premiership
We are an ethnicity and a religion. First a people named from Judea, thus Jewish. Indigenous people.
Like the guy in white shirt said you occupied it based on power so good luck with that and so if someone with another religion takes it back from Jews than enjoy!!! @@Killerb1235321
This Arab has not got the memo on Wilson's Fourteen Points after World War 1. Talk to me after you've advanced to the 20th century, and realized most world countries are nation-based
You mistake Islam reign of the strongest with the modern world
That's not what it says in the bible Israel belongs to the jews now so just deal with it you cant do nothing to stop it they are there to stay ...
Because the books we wrote state that we're god's chosen people and god gave us this land. It sounds so ridiculous 😅
It sounds nazi.
it's bonkers!
there is a state called Israel. it really exists google it, its a fact.
It sounds ridiculous to you for two reasons:
1) you don’t realise that most of the time they are talking about the bible
2) you don’t understand that Palestinian nationhood is something which developed as a concept alongside Nazism; such that the Arab leadership in the region was highly connected to the Nazis. Do not take my word for it, look at archival documents from the early half of the twentieth century. Look up old photos of ‘Haj Amin Al Husseini’, then look into his movements during the early part of the twentieth century. There may be condemnation of Netanyahu’s claim that the idea of the Holocaust came from him; but there is no denying that there was active collaboration and shared aims between the Arab leadership and the Nazis when it comes to treating Jews like lesser humans.
Something else, folks who have beliefs about this topic which originate from hostile propaganda and related opportunistic info wars - it’s often claimed that the Jews ‘stole’ Palestinian land. There may be one of cases of this, but it misleads people about what was happening before ww2, which was mostly efforts to return to Jerusalem. Land purchase records demonstrate this but the campaigners don’t bother to look at this. In fact it’s also true that some early settlements outside of Jerusalem were set up (see this example rarehistoricalphotos.com/tel-aviv-sand-plot-1909/ )
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Defending isreal from 'lawfare' with Natasha Housdourff
This video state the legitimacy of isreal and there is no occupation because gaza and West Bank according to uti possidetis juri International law that state how a country gets its borders. U cannot accupy or annex or invade what you already have. Unless u say the general international law apply to all countries except isreal which u don't like, and claim it's borders or not legally obtained. U can claim it when u try to put double standard
The last guy made the most sense. He was so blunt, and put it in simple terms. Only solution is one state for Palestinians and Israelis with equal rights. Anything less than that will never work
That won't work because Arabs will outnumber Jews and Israel will cease to exist as a progressive democracy. Israel was created as a Jewish state for the protection of the Jewish people that humanity has tried to kill for thousands of years. Arabs already have 22 countries. Jordan is primarily "Palestinian".
NEITHER side really wants a two state solution. The Israeli citizens are more open to Palestinians, but October 7 has damaged a lot of that sentiment. Whereas most Palestinians don't even want an Israeli to visit places in the West Bank (Corey can't go into Gaza)This was in some of Corey's other videos.
Thank you so much, dear Corey: I really liked the people you interviewed. I see there are good hearted, reasonable people in Israel.
The reading that I have done on the matter says that during the inter-war years, the word 'Palestinian' meant 'Jew.' The Jews were the Palestinians who were re-settling their ancient homeland. Indeed, there always was a Jewish presence in 'Palestine' from the time of the destruction of the temple (A.D. 70) until the beginnings of the Zionist movement in the mid-to-late 19th century.
Furthermore, depending on the source one uses, between 52% and 65% of Jewish Israelis have their origins in the countries of North Africa and the Middle East. They and their descendants can tell of how the Arab nations did a very thorough job of ethnically cleansing their countries of their Jewish citizens.
Finally, I find it very telling that many Arab Israelis have very quietly decided that, regardless of Israel's shortcomings, they are better of living in a Jewish state than in any of the surrounding Arab nations.
A final note here: I understand the term 'Arab' to be a linguistic one designating the 22 Arabic-speaking nations of the Middle East and North Africa.
I genuinely don't understand what you are blabbering. I'm Iraqi Turkish-Kurd with Armenian Christian neighbors IN IRAQ. if you western Colonialists left us in peace most would have stayed
@@freepalestine7687 he wrote "Arab nations did a very thorough job of ethnically cleansing their countries of their Jewish citizens"... how is your comment related to that?
As a dual Israeli Australian citizen I'm shocked by the last guy. Australia very much does not let just anyone immigrate (unless they have a few million dollars to invest in the country). Also, to say that everything is dandy and there's no ethnic strife in Australia is frighteningly myopic.
@@ilaibavati6941 This is an Israeli leftist, they are known for living in their own fantasy world, where if we just give everyone a piece of the only Jewish state on the planet, everything will be fine and the Jewish religion and national will not be destroyed.
lol
He wore glasses so it seems he tried to be less myopic.
It's a historical fact that Jews left Syria Palaestina because they were driven out . While living in Europe for about 2000 years, they picked up some European genes, but that doesn't make them "European" . The scope for asking such a question is very narrow.
If you have any shame....you shouldn't have justified it. Shameless are those who are justifying injustice and genocide and ethnic cleansing and rogue behavior for stealing. Shame..Shame.. Zionism is Nazism.
@@mdfarhaanahmad7139 isreal is very bad at genocide, isreal should learn from Sudan how they genocide Christian and the whole world keep silent. Isreal should learn more from Egypt Syria Lebanon on how to systematically ethnic cleanse Jews from their homeland with the Arab world supporting it.
this is the equivalent to saying a coloured person from south Africa who speaks afrikaans can't be considered a true African due to simply having some african genes. if u live somewhere for 2000 years, develop an entirely new language there (yiddish), create cuisine and customs there and visibly resemble a european more then anything i think at that point you qualify as a european
Arab immigrants children in europe and american is not the same as arab children whose been living in arab for their entire life. I think this logic can help you. The immigrants children still have their root, but they are not indigenous
@@alexjost9890 No, because we were never seen as "European" by the Europeans themselves there. We were always hated, and they always made sure to let us know in every way possible that Europe was not our home.
I came to Israel around 7 years ago from Russia, I'm Jewish, not religious. Since 7th of October I started more deeply searching for the answers on my unpopular questions. The problem of historic books is the rewriting them in different periods, and probably it happens everywhere. There's such a thing as replacing Arab people from the land of today's Israel when the state was established. Some of the people left by themselves, some were replaced (though finding this info is extremely difficult as it doesn't fit Israeli propaganda), but I'll find it. Since the beginning of this war suddenly everybody from both sides became historicans (the same in Russia-Ukraine war), but probably everybody does this reading differently
The Institute of Palestine Studies, an Arab organization based in Iraq stated, *68% of the Arabs fled their houses without ever seeing a Jewish man with a gun or a soldier.*
Search, *_"How we really became refugees, 13 Palestinians tell their personal stories"_* Mamoud Abbas and 12 others from all over Israel, tell the truth about how and why they left their villages and houses and it wasn't because of the Jews."_*
@@shainazion4073 it is the arabs army who told the arabs in Palestine to retreat so that when they ethnic cleanse jews to the sea, they get to come back to their home. If they hadn't ran they will be granted isrealis citizenship and treated same in from of law. (not like Malaysia written black and white in the constitution malays Muslim majority get more rights and privilege compare to minorities non Muslim non malays)
Why don't the arabs hold the Arab army accountable for cheating on them? Why not demand compensation from those who want them to leave? It is not logic to blame on the other side who won the war that the arabs country started and lost.... How can u justify it?
@@shainazion4073 the arabs should hold the Arab army and Arab countries accountable for making false hope to them and abandon them in refuge state when the Arab countries kicking them like a ball. Those arabs who stay get same rights as Jews in isreal law. (not like how Malaysia written black and white in constitution since independence Muslim malays majority get more special rights compare to oppressed non Muslim non malays minority)
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla Great idea!!!
Respect for this person going beyond the myths and lies fed to him
Have been watching these videos for a few years... it's a tiny cross-section & not approached from a scientific or intersectional way but this is important work & will be resource to study for the future... we can learn a lot from historians/journalists/writers/thinkers like Ilan Pappé, David Sheen, Gideon Levy, & others & this channel-project gives you another layer to consider.
The last interviewee with the Australian passport was the best in my opinion. Or at least the most aligned with common sense. Yes there are deeper questions about what is happening in Gaza and how to humanely deal with the situation but generally speaking... he was correct.
I thought exactly the same. Just no ideological bulls**t but simply "this is how it is".
You should ask Palestinians why they built their mosque on the ruins of the Jewish Temple and why they lie to the world that they are the natives of the place and not Jews.
Why don't you ask about the Muslim occupation that this country suffered for years?
@@vikiben The waves of Muslim conquest throughout the Middle East, North Africa and Eastern Europe were a tragedy for civilization. Millions of non-Muslim Africans and European Christians were enslaved. To me, a non-Jew, the claiming of the Temple Mount as a holy Islamic site is a desecration. It’s horrifying that non-Muslims can’t enter the Dome of the Rock and therefore can’t experience the holiest site in Judaism, the Foundation Stone. Of course, the Jordanian authority won’t allow any excavation, either, even though they’ve built new mosque structures.
@@kathy4084true
@@kathy4084 Andalusia was the most civilized part of Europe after the Muslim conquest, Jews and Christians lived as free people in all the lands conquered by Muslims, this is why when Andalusia was reconquered, the Jews fled with their Muslim counterparts to North Africa and Turkey not to any other part of Europe.
You make it sound as if they destroyed it. In the two times the Jewish Temple was destroyed, neither was done by Arabs and Muslims.
Palestinians are mostly descendants of people who always lived in Palestine ie "Jews", Canaanites, Samaritans etc
You can lie to yourselves but it's simple and everyone knows it: you came and occupied the land. Took it by arms and killing original owners. Period.
@@SuljoAllTheWayTRT that is true so many empires came to colonize the land of Israel including Arabs, Ottoman , Syrians, Greek, Roman, British. Now finally the Jewish indigenous of the land de-colonized our ancestral home land
@@SuljoAllTheWayTRT You’re just spouting what was originally Soviet disinformation.
I hope you are against immigration in general, specially muslim immigrants in europe and america then
@@lindahaftner2148 what about canaan
@@theoutsider078 Find me some Canaanites who have maintained a connection to their culture and history so we can interview them.
What I have read by the way is the Canaanites referred to in the Torah were likely the city dwellers along the coast while the early Hebrews were pastoralists, but they all were related ethnically. One of the new trends is for Palestinians to call themselves descendants of Canaanites (they used to say Philistines) (and it could be true of course but Canaanites are long gone from the nations of the world)... but the purpose of it is to find yet another way to erase Jews or disconnect Jews of today from any connection to ancient Israel. They have the Khazar myth; Jesus was a Palestinian; Moses was a Muslim; so many many stories. And yet their newly-discovered-identity is "from the beginning of time"... Frankly it's irrelevant.
Its astonishing to see that apparently most people are not aware of the fact that both Ashenazim and Sephardim are Middle Eastern/Levant in origins. Many genetic studies have shown this time and time again. So even though Ashenazim and Sephardim lived in European countries for generations, they are still indigenous to the Levant.
This were most Arabs came to the Levant with the Islamic conquests. And from a religious perspective, of course Judaism is also indigenous to this region, whereas Islam is not.
False. Ashkenazi does not have Levant origin; the tiny bit some Ashkenazi have from the Middle East is from Turkey.
"If I don't steal it then someone else will"
- Fat Yakob the settler from NY
That’s rich given Islamic history of conquering and colonizing
There was only one person who seemed to understand why. The reason is that because in 1922 the land was divided between the Arab Muslims and the Jews. This is what the Arab Muslims wanted and demanded. As a result they got 80% of the land and the Jews were left with 20%. The 80% is now called Jordan. Therefore, the Jews have more right to live in the 20% that is left (Israel) than the Arab Muslims.
They only know promise land given to the jew, but they didn’t obey God’s commands and land taken from them by God. They can’t have any land until Jesus come , stealing land from others there will be a big punishment.
The last guy is the most sensible.
Stealing people's home is wrong
That is all Is lamb has done.
you are right. that's why the people of Israel returned to their homeland and deocupied their land from the occupiers
@just_a_turtle_chad Nobody argues about this in this video. Many israeli jews would agree with you.
Most of the western world agrees with you.
So tell the paliestinians to leave then! Go back to Jordan!
True, go back to Arabia, leave Europe and US alone
Don't they realize that prophet Abraham is also the father of the Arabs ?
so if the land was promised to Abraham by god according to them, it doesn't necessarily mean it was promised to the Jews
No, it was promised to the Israelites after they escaped Egypt under the leadership of Moses.
Do you believe in God? No. What is your right to colonize Palestine? Because the Bible says so! Okaaay...
you're missing the point!
Whether Jews believe in god or not, it hasn’t stopped the Arabs from hating us and treating us like less than them. This is why Zionism exists and was achieved 76 years ago - to save millions of Jewish refugees, and returned to their ancestral homeland. Deal with it! ☮️
gei kaken afen yam
even if they dont, us mizrahi jews would welcome them over aliens
Do you know what a straw man argument is?
"Because the bible says so" isn't why Israelis believe Israel has the right to exist...
Simple answer because the Koran, Bible and Torah says it’s the land of the Jewish people.
All of those (except maybe your Torah) also tells you to not be literal devil and kill innocent humans like animals.
No, that´s a bad misinterpretation, because the promised land is not from this world. That´s exact the reason, why the jews didn´t accept Jesus: They wanted a military leader, but Jesus said: " My kingdom is not of this world" and "they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them."
Non of them is a legal document to prove ownership in the 21st century ..
Aha...... finally someone who knows the answer!
@DvanteDealmeida-b9x I'm confused? But you know that God's covenant with Israel was conditional, and that these conditions were broken again and again by the chosen people?
You yourself have been confused by the Zionist lies.
Many Palestinians descent from neighoring arab countries. The arab , mamluk, egeptian, ottman colonial powers enabled arabs to migrate to Palestine. They were also unjustly prioritised and protected while jews were persecuted and often prevented from migrating to the land.
Israelis came as refugees after ww2
Germans destroyed our homes and families please don't destroy our hopes
Who said this line? Palestinians?
Great work Cory I tell people all the time about you and the great work you do on the ask project! Am YISRAEL Chai
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all these haters in the comments are just confused. The jewish attachment to the land of israel is stronger. That's why they won all the wars against the Palestinins and other Arab nations. That's also why they built a country. New cities everywhere and a thriving economy. Palestinians never contributed anything to the development of the land. They were a tiny people that lived in poverty for hundreds of years in cities that were once jewish.
The Jewish Revolt in Jerusalem with The Romans was a brutal, blood bath for both sides, but The Romans were the victors.
Those not killed were exiled, (usually enslaved) to Italy. Many of the men intermarried with European women who converted to Judaism.
The Romans stayed for hundreds years more in Syria Palestinia. They outnumbered by far any Jews that remained, as most were killed or exiled. Some Palestinians have a percentage of S Italian/ Greek most likely from ancestors of Philistines or The Romans who stayed for hundreds of years.
But Palestinian Arabs "have a dream". That's it. They don't do the things, they do hate.
The claim of the Jews to the land is HISTORIC, not biblical, anyone who traveled in israel knows how strong and deep the connection of Jews to that land is, there are Hebrew writings in every archeological site, that israeli kids can easily read today. Jews always lived in Jerusalem, zfat, akre and Tiberius, and even Napoleon himself back in 1780 initiate a movement of jews returning to palestine (google it). The last guy is correct too, in all of the wars that were forced on the israelis they have won. if that doesn't give them entitlement to that land , I don't know what will. Pro palestinians thinks that Israel started in 1948, but the mass return of jews to Israel started in 1860 with the "old Yishuv" at the same time when native american experienced the Trail of tears. if Israelis need to give the land they "stole" in 1860, than please expel all European Americans from New york, and give it back to the natives.
Saying, as many in the video, that a land belongs by religion (by God) to some people is kind of strange. If you want to say they won it by war, it's legit to me. But pretending you are a superior race and the chosen people is something more akin to some ideologies in Europe 80 years ago. Also, history has NOTHING to do with rights to a land to a certain religion.
The Palestinians also have a historic claim
@@squid_3What's a Palestinian? And what historical claim are you talking about?
@@squid_3Palestinians means invaders originated from philistine. The invaders of land should return to the people originally from there. How can invaders, I mean the Palestinians called themselves not me, be indigenous to the land that they being name and recognize their name as invader?
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxlapalestine is caananite jews invade them... Even it say on your bibble 😂
As a latin american part-jew, i think the strongest argument for israelis isn't God's promise, but the fact that most people in this video were born there and their parents too. I ask this of every one of you reading this: ask yourself, did you choose to be born where you did? None of us did. So now we have to fix the situation we're in, hopefully without disturbing peace (that goes for both sides)
The justification is the opposite of the one most of them claim: it's not found 3000 years ago, it's less than a century old
So all the United States would have to do to make claim on your country is to invade and then bring American women down there to make babies, then your country belongs to us because our kids were born there.
My gen is from china but i live in Indonesia. And of course i dont have the right of Chinese Island
What if people were killing people because they had Chinese genes? Shouldn't they have the right to live in China assuming China agreed?
ancestry is interesting, but ultimately if someone is born in a land, he has a natural right to live on that land. Nobody can be asked to leave a land because their ancestors have been there fewer generations than someone else's ancestors, etc. This goes both to Israeli Jews and Israeli Palestinians/Arabs. All these arguments about ancestry are interesting as a study of history, but not relevant to current political events.
Yes I agree 💯
They weren't asked to leave, but they opened a war.
Ask to Israelis and Palestinians:
*1.* What do you think about some female ISIS group members who're freehair as minorities in reality?
*2.* What do you think about some female ISIS group members who're without headscarf and veil as minorities in reality?
All female ISIS group members wearing long dress like long pants,long shirts as their indress and long gown as their outdress.
Actually they let the jews who escaped the war in their homes and offered to share. Israelis wanted all the land. Been the goal since day 1.
On an individual level, maybe, but on a collective level this is was not true. Palestinians pressured the British Mandate government to put as strict as possible quotas on Jewish immigration up until 1948, even turning away ships of Jews fleeing the Holocaust and trying to get them to go back or go to Africa.
Read Howard Sachar's A History of Israel if you want to know more.
And God said to Abram after Lot had parted from him, look with your eyes and see from the place where you are, the north and the east and the west, for the whole world Whatsoever you see, I will give you and your seed forever, and I will make your seed as dust The land which, if a man can number the dust of the land, your seed also shall number" (Genesis 13)
This is the Jewish claim to the Land of Israel, a 4000 year old divine promise
Arabs also come from Abraham by the way.
@@Masterchef97 According to Jewish sources, the land of Israel was promised to the people of Israel, especially to the descendants of Abraham. In the Bible, it is written in Genesis that God promised Abraham the land: "To you I will give this land" (Genesis 17:8). Ishmael, the son of Abraham by Hagar, did not receive the land. As stated in Genesis 21:18, it is mentioned that Ishmael will dwell in the wilderness of Paran and not in the land of Israel.
The Jewish history in the land of Israel is documented for thousands of years, with evidence of Jewish settlement, particularly in Jerusalem, which is a significant spiritual center for the Jewish people. As noted in the scriptures, Jerusalem has been a holy city for Israel since the time of King David (2 Samuel 5:6-10).
Therefore, based on these promises and this history, the Arabs do not have a divine right to the land of Israel as the people of Israel do.
@@user-vm6qx2mx5z why would an avg arab living peacefully in the same land as his 14th grandpa give a damn about what your book says. Man, the ethnocentrism... The same book also told us that the Jews genocided the previous inhabitants (amalekites) when they entered that promised land 👀.
And also, the powers that created the counties and boarders of Lebanon, iraq, Syria and jordan also decided Israel as the home for the Jewish people, so if you respect iraqs or Syria's right to exist you also have to respect Israel being the Jewish home
Those powers had no right to divide the Ottoman Levant into separate countries.
@@Islandicus
did the ottomans have any right to take control of these areas , ?
did the arabs?
while pillaging , raping , murdering , displacing , colonizing , and enslave the entire region?
erase entire cultures?
if it's wrong for the europeans to do it it's also wrong for anyone elses doing the exact same things...
@@Islandicusdoesn't matter. They are not the only countries to be divided by wars or other countries. People in those countries love life more than death and learn to live. Whereas statements from Palestinians saying we love death more than you love life' The majority of Palestinians want to return home (a 'home' they have never seen or stepped foot on). When they were told the university was built there now, they said it didn't matter because they would tear it down for their village of 300 people. In some of Corey's other videos.
@@Islandicus then who has the right ??? The British won against the ottomans they could do what they chose with the land. It was never the Arabs land , they decided to start a war then make a state in 1948. Now u cry . U can cry for 400 years
@axlfoley7795 it's filthy when a Frankist talks the Islamophobia is always appaling
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I love your videos! Also super helpful to learn Hebrew.
5:41 I am not letting you set up a state in my country. I will however allow you to live here as a citizen under our country.
Well...yeah. You aren't allowed to build countries inside countries, seems pretty obvious.
My answer to the question,
as a third generation Middle Eastern Israeli Jew, that the Jews are not only a religion, they are also a people!
how does it work?
How can it be said that all Jews are related to a country in the Middle East, if some of them are Europeans, or Sephardi?
Very simply, the most fundamental difference between Judaism and Christianity and Islam is this:
Christianity and Islam are religions founded on preaching and spreading the religion to all the surrounding nations.
Christianity sent messengers all over the world, and Islam conquered huge territories in order to spread the religion.
Both Christianity and Islam have engaged in forced conversion throughout history, which is why they now number billions of believers all over the world.
If you take a random Christian or Muslim, and investigate how the religion came to his family, you will likely end up with a charismatic preacher who taught them about Jesus and the New Testament, or Muhammad and the Kuran,
or armed conquerors who converted by force or torture.
Judaism is completely different.
Judaism supported that Jews keep the Torah, and non-Jews keep the seven mitzvot of Noah's sons.
Judaism is a religion of tradition.
A tradition that passes between father and son, mother and daughter, rabbi and his community, and so on.
And the tradition was preserved in such a way that thousands of years after the destruction of the house,
all Jewish (religious) communities preserved it.
In Asia, Europe, Africa, they prayed in Hebrew, observed the mitzvot and the
Jewish Halacha, read Hebrew Torah books, performed the Jewish ceremonies, and always prayed that a day would come and they would see Israel and Jerusalem in its glory.
The Jewish religion has never abandoned the desire to return to our homeland.
If you take a religious Jew and investigate how Judaism came to his family, most likely it is a tradition that is thousands of years old, preserved despite the endless attempts to exterminate Judaism and the Jews.
No, I am not saying that the land belongs only to the Jews, and I am not saying that the Arabs who lived here have no right or connection to it.
I believe that Jews can live in peace with everyone in the Land of Israel.
My midwife was Arab, and so was my teacher.
I certainly hope that a day will come when Arabs will not be afraid to live among Jews, and Jews will not be afraid to live among Arabs.
And I am a strictly orthodox Jew.
Wow, the last sentence hit me hard
Are there converted Jews?
is it true that judaism says jews are meant to live in exile until the messiah comes?
@user-ub8gx8fr2r so what about moshe dayan saying that the Palestinians in the west bank should either live like dogs or just leave
You are still lying Christianity and Judaism both spread by force too nice try
King David Hotel
Do not use the Bible as a land deed. It is not.
The guy using his ability to get Australian citizenship as a comparison is not comparing apples with apples.
Australia is essentially a colonial settlement - he’s not factoring in the history and treatment of the “real Australians” ie Aboriginal people. In fact, in that regard I’d go so far as to say he’s likely had no real engagement with the real Australia at all
historically jewish are the native of the land of israel
@@thejavoo77 historically all humans are native to east Africa, but ain't no one illegally occupying them
@@The_Voice_of_Reason_is_here
false and stupid argument
ok i play with you this game...
what are you talking about? humanity don't stop to occupying since they leave east Africa.
East Africa was conquered so many times
Lol, it's Canaanites.
@@aabdo1770 right but the
The ancient Israelis conquered them, the Canaanites have since assimilated into the surrounding peoples and disappeared for more than 2000 years, this means that the only natives left are the Israelis
Its Cannan land only, back in Poland israhellii
“I think the world belongs to everybody!” This is sooooo beautiful..❤
white liberalism in a nutshell
white people do not belong in the middle east. Basic facts.
How blind one has to be to think that Moroccan, Yemeni, and German Jews belong to the same genetic cluster. The average Palestinian is way closer genetically to the first people to call themselves Jews than are European Jews.
@@isawilraen9816 That’s not true. Because of endogamy the Ashkenazi Jews remain genetically far closer to Middle Eastern Jews, than to those in their lands of exile. The proof is in the genetic diseases they often have due to intermarriage. According to the journal Cell (2020) more than half thethe DNA of contemporary Jews and Palestinians is Canaanite. Other research shows that about 6500 years ago people from Turkey and the Zagros Mountains of Iran migrated into the upper Galilee.
you have the iq of a child..are Gypsie's in Romania are Romanians ?? gypsies in france are french ? jews were sent to the diaspora by the romans Babylonians and arab prosecution ..you should learn some history.
Always love you videos Corey
The last guy was refreshingly honest.
Two words: cognitive dissonance
Explain. Where is the hypocrisy?
@@tFighterPilot they out right say that they have ancestors from MORROCO(africa) SPAIN(europe) AND TURKEY(asia minor) and yet they claim through political means and agandas that they have history in a place that is not listed above. He said my parents are from Europe but i am not. Please explain to me how this can be? This is a clear example of cognitive dissonance. I did not mention hypocrisy. The fact that you mentioned that word means somewhere deep in your psyche you recognize the false narrative. But i did not accuse anyone of anything. They know the truth themselves. The same way the UNITES STATES (where i am from by the way) used “terrorism” as a scapegoat to destabilize the middle east like iraq and iran. (One women even claimed ancestry from iraq) which is a British colony that gained its independence after Britain, the same way the STATE OF ISRAEL( not the country of Israel) has its beginning. Colonialism.
that's what the arabs and muslims and their supporters have for claiming that this land belongs to them .
@@fasewrlld
so we agree it's cognetive disonance for arabs from arabia and muslims from arabia to claim nationhood on the historically jewish land , that they were called palastinians which is a term derived from the name palestine , which is originally a roman made up name derived from the philistines who were of greek origin
and they changed the region's name to palestine after the jews rebeled against them to distance the realation between the jews and the land of israel .
@@fasewrlld Cognitive dissonance means that there is a discrepancy in their world view. Like if you think it's ok for Poland to take German land after WW2, but not for Israel to take Arab land following 1948 or 1967 war, or if you think that New Zealand is a legitimate country, despite being a settler colonialist country, but Israel isn't. Hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance are very similar.
Ask them are they okay with annexing Gaza and giving its people full citizenship?
We would be okay with it ONLY if the people of Gaza obide Israeli's laws (such as free speech, women rights, LGBTQ+ rights and such, no terror attacks)... Telling you truthfully most people of Gaza wouldn't agree with these laws and wouldn't want to live under a developed country.
why reward the actions of terrorists with citizenship to the land they want to destroy? You're not very bright.
Ask the Gazas people if they want Israeli citizenship. I suppose they not
@@yelenas7923 but they are by 70% refuges from Israel why would they refuse, this will end the whole crises forever.
@@nicoleguler8211 I disagree with you and I think the majority would accept it but a new government must create reconciliation and reform to implement it with no problems. This will end Gaza crises forever. also Israel must change its name and create a secular constitution.
The truth is and according to documented history and DNA studies ; ancient Hebrews branches off the Canaanites and invented the stories of the fictional character Moses and the Exudes to give themselves a glorified and distinguished history. They also invented “ god gave us the land” . What happened after that is mostly, glorified facts mixed with some fiction.
I agree with you, even though it's ironic that we invented a past which says we came from outside (Iraq, Egypt) while it's very likely most of the population was autochthonous.
Yes, humans invented god. Religion is made up nonsense. That goes for all of them.
So we are going to ignore archaeology with your opinion
@@יונתןשפיגל-ש1ר There were people who called themselves Hebrews that’s a fact . But they lied about a lot of things to glorify themselves. They never came from Egypt and invented Moses
@@Anonymouse166 so by this logic if i do believe, speak, live , read, fight and pray like the indigenous people of the land and also have a DNA connection to the people doesn't that gives me the right to live here?
I understand the question, but it isn’t the smartest, to be honest. even though Mizrahi Jews have stronger connection to this land genetically, also Ashkenazi Jews does. apart from the fact that they belong to it historically, culturally, and religiously, a good amount of Ashkenazi Jews are connected to the Israelites genetically. the fact that they were expelled to Europe a long time ago, does not mean they’re indigenous to Europe, or belong to it at all. the holocaust happened for a reason. because even though some Jews had blue eyes and blonde hair, the Nazis believed they were a different species that did not belong to Europe. and they weren’t wrong about this part. they really didn’t belong to Europe. 🤷🏽♀️
Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews genetically are roughly half Levantine Middle Eastern (it can vary by individual) and most of the European ancestry is Mediterranean from antiquity during Hellenistic and Roman times. Therefore, Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews are mostly a MENA-Med mix with a lot of Israel/Italy/Greece-type admixture. This is proven by autosomal DNA and haplogroup results found in both groups. They are firmly rooted in the Eastern Mediterranean and any additional admixture picked up in the Diaspora doesn't change that fact. Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews belong in Israel. The indigenous Jewish homeland.
Ask arabs or isrealis why u think gaza and West Bank is not a part of isreal? while it is the only nation declare independence and according to international law uti possidetis juri, Ukraine borders include crimes, why exception made for isreal which should have according to the norms, inherit the previous borders of British Palestine borders (from Jordanian dead sea to the red sea)?
Learn English first.
The borders included Jordan. Maybe rethink your dumb statement.
@@mostm8589 I bet you are smart enough to understand what he/she wrote. If not, I can explain: The place you know as Jordan was part of the British Mandate on Palestine. It was supposed to be part of the land that the Jews and Arabs of Palestine got in the partition plan. But the British gave it to Jordan. Leaving only a small part to the remaining Arabs and Jews.
@@reutg6478 that's just a bunch of gibberish pulled out of who knows where. Then again, that's how almost all of pro Israel activism works.
What about The Ethiopian Jews(Beta Israelis), why don't you ask them the same question.
Jews are Jews. Hence the point.
What is a Beta Israeli? Huh??
Beta israelis? U think they're less israeli cuz of the color of their skin?
@@shakedamrani5944 I didn't say they are less israeli, they are called Beta Israel, you can google it.
@@shakedamrani5944 They are called Beta Israel not because they are less or something it was just their name in Ethiopia and i dont think its called beta because of the Greek letter but actually because its a different word in a different language
@@DoraTheExplorerrr 😂 jews are hilarious. Beta jews? It says it in their name...they're from ETHIOPIA
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These Jewish people were expelled from the land for 2000 years. Their ancestors had to live somewhere until 1948 so why does it matter if a couple hundred years ago their ancestors lived in Morocco or Spain? The ancestors from Morocco or Spain had ancestors too and they trace back to the Biblical land of Israel. The land belongs to the Jewish people because God says the land belongs to the Jewish people. Their land deed is in the Bible.
The truth is, Jesus Christ is God and He is coming back. Everything is happening on His time. He is the Creator, The Beginning and the End, The Word, The Messiah, etc. He said in the latter days the Jews would return to their homeland and that is what is happening. The Jews are God’s chosen people, and He is not done with them.
If you have an issue with this then talk to Jesus Christ who is The Almighty God about it. No matter what you think or how you feel will stop or prevent the truth. The Jews will call out for Jesus at the end of the tribulation, and He will return.
Jesus Christ is God and He came to this earth 2000 years ago wrapped in flesh. He came to this earth to shed his innocent blood and die on the cross for everyone’s sins. He is the Lamb of God. Anyone who puts their trust in Him and Him alone will be saved and will spend all eternity with Him in Heaven.
Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.”
John 1:29 John the baptist
29 The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
The last guy, perhaps the one with more common sense, said something out of touch with reality though. They didn't conquered the land. They commissioned the British, a military power the Palestinians were not in conditions to fight against, to rule the land in order to turn the demographics to their favor and at the same time to weaken the fighting capabilities of Palestinians ( which they did from 1936 to 39, when the Arab Strike was repressed and turned into an unequal war where the British killed 10% of the male Palestinian population, almost all the men apt to combat ). Besides that, the British allowed the Jews to build weapon factories, while forbidding it to Palestinians.
Nothing heroic, a treacherous plan indeed.
have dna test and if they are european, they are european, if they middle eastern, they are middle eastern
Jews and Europeans are actually very similar genetically, you have to imagine they were constantly being defeated in battle and brought to other lands.
@TheArchitect-yy9pl yet they arent considered europens in europe bc their dna is still connected to the middle east. jews is an ethno religion
They have no clue why the land belongs to them. Deep down they know this is not their land.
So you prefer to hear the same answer as the Palestinians answer: only we have a right to this land? In 1948 it was decided that it could be divided between 2 nations. The Arabs did not agree - since then the problem has not been resolved. In fact they never agreed including nowadays. And you sound like one of them.
@@olgay555Why didn't Germany agree to have its land divided? Because the Germans wouldn't have agreed to it either. Stupid argument.
@@olgay555 It was decided by.....
Read facts the Holy Bible nasb
It doesn't matter. Even if say the land doesn't belong to the citizens of Israel (imo no land belongs to anyone on earth, we all die) where do you suppose around 7 mil people are to go? 🙂 Genuine question
Also, both the diaspora and the in-gathering are prophesied in the Tanach. We’ve been saying “Next year in Jerusalem!” for two thousand years.
Arabs have got 56 countries. Why shouldn’t we have one?
Who gives a sh*t. Tell me, can expelled Palestinians return to the land? No? Then why should you after 2000 years
@@theoutsider078 That's the point.
Israelis won, and now Jews can return, where they couldn't have for hundreds of years because of foreign occupation of the land.
@tombuddy100 not true. Jews made up about 30 percent of the population in Jeruzalem. Kalif omar invited them back.
@@theoutsider078 Who is Kalif Omar?
There is no historical evidence (besides Islamic scriptures) that Muhammad and "four rightly guided caliphs" existed.
@@tombuddy100 Israel clearly hasn't won...they still have to defeat hamas, hezbollah and all the other surrounding countries that despise them. That's a battle Israel can not win. Israel is putting their backs against the wall. Opposition is holding off but how long? The world will pay for Israel sins. Israel is self absorbed and is willing to sacrifice others blood to take land
The Jews who emigrated to Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya and Egypt, their ancestors were never in Spain, are not Sephardim. They follow the Sephardic rite, which is very different.
The true Sephardim emigrated to Morocco, Türkiye, Greece, Former Yugoslavia, Italy, Holland and to the Spanish colonies in America.
I love how he makes it sound as if Spain isn't in Europe. We see a similar misconception in the US where white Latinos with pure Spanish (no Indigenous) ancestry are considered people of color. Y'all - Spain is just as Europe as "scary Poland and Germany". Though he sometimes does denote Spain as part of Europe, so who knows.
Also disappointing to see so many cite the Bible when there is plenty of archaeology and genetic evidence of Jewish roots in Israel.
But the archeology and genetic evidence only says that once Jews lived there. That's just a fact, it's not normative. It doesn't say that therefor it's their land and only there land forever. To get a claim you have to refer to the Bible and the alleged devine promise.
No response at all except it's a British project.
If you completely ignore what was said in the video and only want to hear what you want to hear: yes.
Palestine? Yes, it is. Israel, on the other hand, was a nation when "Britain" wasn't yet populated
The Balfour declaration was a Zionist project. The British were losing ww1. The Germans offered generous peace terms to them. Basically, go home, and things go back to how they were. The Zionists asked Germany for palestine. The Germans said no. So adam mayor Rothschild asked the British to get it for them. Promising to bring the US into ww1, so the British would not have to surrender.
@@peter_meyer
Tools of colonization
@@davidtrak2679
Was called Palestine and will always be called Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸
So, with this way of thinking, the U.S. belongs to the American Indians? I better get packing and move back to Europe..
@@comrade916 indians have India, bleq ppl were in America before them
You're being sarcastic but that's what I actually believe. I was born in America and so were my parents but I don't consider myself to be an "American" because this country we're living on is all stolen land. We are absolutely the colonizers here. If you're not 100% indigenous to this continent you don't belong here. That goes for you, me, and everybody else with ancestry from somewhere else. We should all vacate this continent and go back to where our ancestors were from. We're the invaders.
have the native americans constantly attacked the american settelers?
(only difference here is that the arabs are the settelers who came during the times of the ottoman empire and the british mandate)
If the American Indians were strong enough to hold the land, then yes.
That's actually the way of thinking of the Palestinians
The last answer was the best. 'I have conquered it'.
Conquered it from the conquers.
even if they did, us mizrahi jews would welcome them over aliens
That’s the only right answer and as a Palestinian the only way to get it back is the same way , until then stop calling it terrorism because you were doing the same thing for a country you have no right to besides the laws of war
That is not really a good answer. If Israel’s neighbors banded together and ‘conquered’ Israel I don’t think we would think that was a just solution? With that said I think Israel’s neighbours need to accept the existence of Isreal and its people.
@@robg4472sorry, but no. Israel was forced upon the region, and the UN broke its own laws when they allowed for the partitioning of Palestinian lands to create the Jewish State. They went against the Right of National Self-determination of every country, state, city, village, and territory of the entire region, as none of them were in favor of it.
From the biblical point of view, the land belongs to the descendants of Abraham. Now the question is, who is considered the descendants of Abraham ?
Obviously the jews. Islam was created 2000 years after Abraham existed.
Not the fake white ones from Russia and Poland
“Sephardic” refers to the exiles of Jerusalem that Rome sent to Spain under Titus, as prophesied in Obadiah & Isaiah 66. The expulsion from Spain sent them across the Mediterranean world but many returned to Jerusalem and Safed hundreds of years ago. Herzl was Sephardic but his family migrated among Ashkenazim. Sephardic is not limited to Spanish Jews but refers to all Jews who remained on the Mediterranean coasts between Israel and Spain, hence they are Sephardic Jews; Hebrews dispersed between Judea & Spain. People saying North Africa is “Eastern/Mizrachi” must be unfamiliar with geography.
God gave us this land is the most wild reason, and god gave manhattan, I guess they got to move!
Funny comment from someone who will never give up on Mecca and medina, because Muhamad walked there.........
@@eyalster god didn’t give the Muslims Mecca dude. I can’t simply convert to Islam and then go say Mecca is mine. You have to be from there. Your not getting the point
but is it okay with you that muslims claim it as "dar al harb"(land of war\kafir-ie infedels ) and "dar al harb"( land of islam-since it's used to be under muslim rule)?
is it okay for people to claim christians should have a state or that different ethnicities should have states?
is it okay for the chineses, indian ,kenians, french , sweeds or any other ethnic or national group you can think of to have astate?
I'm asking for a firend...
@@eyalster why do you make stupid assumptions
Then give Manhattan back to the Lenape
לא כל אחד יכול להיות יהודי
I am very proud to be jewish it is my pride and privileges
@YxzHvwYou really convinced us that you people aren’t racist well done 👍
@YxzHvwyou don't have GOD you
Goys have satan smal that call himself allah or human black magic doing Jesus
40% of ashcenazi DNA originate in the the anciant levant
That's really funny as 50% of Ashkenazi DNA is ancient Canaanite as proven by DNA studies, and 70% of Ashkenazi Jews and 82% of "Palestinians" _(those known to have families in the land for generations, not Arab Levantine laborers or Muslim refugees from Europe or Africa)_ Share the SAME Y-chromosomes!!!
Some lands were conquered, some were bought, some were uninhabitable and had no owners. The fact is that the last border expansion happened almost 60 years ago (voluntary border reduction at 2005 btw) and there are many hundreds of thousands of Israelis living on those lands. This is just a fact of reality, and no one on earth can change it or cause those hundreds of thousands to evacuate. If it was my land lost I would be salty too tbh, but by now (60 years later) its a fact that can't be changed, I would just accept it and try to make the best of the situation I am in.
Palestine is name invented by the British regim for administrative purposes.For instance, I am a Jew but in my birth certificate is written "Palestine".Arabs who lived here took the name and decided that it is an identity.No base what soever...
Im a jew with roots in Bulgaria (both sides of my family). Both sides of my family have Hebrew surnames (and no, they werent hebraized, we've had them for all of our traceable history) - Mashiach (משיח) - means Messiah in hebrew, and Melamed (מלמד) which means Teacher (the one who used to teach Torah to the small kids in the Cheider was called Melamed). Even my grandma's maiden name was "Yisrael".
Im pretty sure non of these are "european" surnames and are much more indigenous than any arab surnames, especially those such as Al-Masri (literally means "The Egyptian" in Arabic), as Hebrew is the indigenous language of the land and the only canaanite language to still be alive to this day.
Unlike arabic which is a colonialist language and doesn't belong to anywhere outside the arabian peninsula.
correct 100%!
the arab culture , language , history and muslim influence have been spread by the sword!
chalipathe = arab colonialsm and islamic imperialism.
Did you speak Hebrew in Egypt before exporting it to the land of Canaan during the conquest of Yehoshua ibn Nun ?
@jenesaisplusjaioublie9686 Yehoshua Ibn Nun lmfao.
Yes, even if you believe in the Bible, it very clearly mentions the hebrews living in Canaan (the land of Israel) before moving to Egypt because of a severe drought. If you look at history and archeology it also confirms the fact that the hebrews - precursors of the israelites and later, jews, were canaanite peoples, with canaanite culture and language, that is well reflected in the Jewish people, as we preserved our holy language - Lashon HaKodesh - hebrew, our prayers, our traditions, our holidays etc.
@@SuperGamingCraftSGC So when you enter the land of Canaan, they were already Israelites at that time ? What do you mean by Israelites and later Jews ?
@@SuperGamingCraftSGC messiach is dajjal
The Palestinians are Arabs from Algeria Egypt Jordon Syria and Lebanon Origins the Jews Originated from Israel end of Story.
If you read the Bible, the holy land was called the land of Canaan. The Canaanites inhabited this land. When a Palestinian gets a DNA test, they get Canaanite ancestry and their DNA closely matched the Israelite, more than the average Jew.
@@geegeeh.6118 Why do Palestinians consider Palestine to be exactly whatever Israel is?
Who determined the borders (of Palestine)?
How come Palestinians do not want any land that belongs to states surrounding Israel, only Israel?
After Jordan annexed "West Bank", PLO considered Palestine to be Israel, excluding West Bank.
When Israel captured West Bank, PLO changed the claim, now including "West Bank" as Palestine.
That is strange.
And God gave the Land to Abraham and Issac who changed his name to Israel remember.😂😂😂
@@tonycoker6523 I guess no israeli is from Poland, Ukraine, US, etc etc...
Take a DNA test bud. I guarantee you it won’t tell you you are from Palestine. That’s why DNA tests aren’t allowed in Israel.
The 2000 years since the destruction of the 2nd temple is the blink of an eye in terms of genetics. Jews fled to places in Europe but even with some intermarriage over the centuries it doesn't change genetics. It's how you got people who are pretty brown, in places like Lithuania which is north of Poland. Some of those brown people emigrated to the US, first to the East Coast and then California, and a few generations later there was my mom, who was pretty brown and I'm a bit too brown to be considered "white" in most of the US. People would say "You're 'something'" or "Really, what are you?" it's pretty funny.
My mother and her people wanted to bury the past so thoroughly that we kids were told we're a bit brown because we're part Navajo. At least it's a bit more imaginative than the old Cherokee lie. But it turns out not to be true. I'm probably about 2 years out from making aliyah.
You people are disgusting.
Signed, an actual Cherokee.
@YxzHvw
What's the name of that Arab writer?
The strange thing about Khazar theory of jews is that linguistically there is no trace of turkic roots in Yiddish.
😂 you white....do they consider you "brown" in Africa? Bout to travel to Israel and fake like you been from there the whole time after dropping that lineage. Good luck.
The answer is sooo simple.
The land of Israel belongs to the Israelites. It used to be called Judea = Jews.
There is over 3000 years of Jewish history on this land. It is the cradle of Judaism.
If you wont believe the bible, the Quran and the new testament, you should believe archeological and historical evidence.
Well said
@reutg6478 interesting..could you explain why in 1948 a vote was held for this new nation?
@@theoutsider078 do your own research.
@@ezzafive9271 I did
@@theoutsider078Then why don't you educate us?
11:35 ''I conquered and now it is mine''
How can you conquer something that is already yours?
If you are the (rightful) owner of the land, means that if you do not give it away, that it will stay yours
As a jew, this is just inaccurate, The Land of Israel is revindicated after the Holocaust