I really appreciate this review amigo. I was not expecting for it to be so thorough, like testing the low/mid/high settings on the iGPU. It made for a better idea of performance 👍 PS - just subbed!
@@zerocal76 Hi again, on my side i really appreciate you appreciate my review, i am trying to provide the viewers a Maximum of FPS references, so the viewers have more material to make their own comparison with other system, and make the best possible choice.
@@aekprm435 Excellent! Can you confirm me that your unit is as quiet as mine? Noise level and Cooling design are really the key features of this mini PC model with the low CPU temperature under stress environement and the dead silent fan RPM
I was thinking about a Minisforum 780M XTX , now i am thinking about this model, because the miniforum is barebone only and more expensive, thank you GhostKeyboard 😁
Looks almost exactly the same as the cheap M7 (6850h) model. Btw, if you put stuff on top of the machine, you can break the lid, I think. I did put self adhesive furniture leg pads to the four corner of the top black plastic. The thinner 3mm felt type fits perfectly, doesn't interfere with the transparent lid and it supports the weight of stuff put top of the machine :)
@@unoqualunque77 For Switch you may have better performances with a stand alone emulator depending of the game, Retrobat should work fine though (Without FPS loss) with lower gen console emulator, but if you are using an EGPU with a dedicated Graphic Card (GPU) then Retrobat is fine with everything even Switch games as you will have more graphic Hardware ressource available.
@@andrebradley1924 If you want a Budget setting then you can buy for GPU the Intel ARC B580 at 300$ instead of the NVIDIA RTX 4080 Super, the ARC B580 is the best 300$ GPU on the Market by a landslide.
It's a cool video, but I'm not sure why you're running FSR or DLLS in ultra performance mode. It looks terrible. I think DLLS or FSR to quality setting is the best option for boosting FPS with minimal loss of picture quality. Could you test it with ultra performance and quality for a couple of tests? I always choose quality mode and lower some graphic settings for a good-looking picture and good FPS when I want to play the game.
@@mtwsilent Hi, i am about to publish a Video which Topic is " GMKtec K8 PLUS Vs Aoostar GEM12" i am trying to add more Native game run at Max setting, i thought i did have included Native setting in this very review but your comment make me doubt now
@Ghost-Keyboard Yes, the video is excellent, you can clearly see the performance, but if you look at the test with iGPU, you can see everywhere how the picture looks very bad because of FSR Ultraperfomance, by the way, I also wanted to say that I noticed that you have in all tests the maximum consumption of 54W, but you can enable Perfomance mode in BIOS and the maximum consumption will grow to 65-70W, which will greatly affect the FPS, you have not tested in this mode? Also it increases all performance in Cinebench and others.
Oh Okay, you are talking about FSR, yes FSR is generally performing poorly specially on games developed with the collaboration of Nvidia, idk know which game you are refering too, but yes i will try lower upscalling if 60 FPS is not miles away. About TDP, Standard review are made at balance mode (54W), 70W isn t making much difference, i am an advocate of CPU Core Boost disabled in the Bios, i made videos (GMK M6) showing that 54 Watt is not giving significant performance boost compared to lower 20 Watt in gaming, the truth is that it all depend of your CPU and the Motherboard default setting, most of the Time, those extra Watt are wasted, and 70 Watt TDP will with time shorten your hardware lifespan by wearing more on component, also things can go wrong with high TDP. Thanks a lot for your commen, much appreciate
@@RealImmP3rfect Hi, The K11 has a better NPU (A.I Performances) but a similar CPU specs, The 8945HS should have similar performances than the 8845HS except for A.I application, to be clear you won t have better Gaming performances with the 8945HS (K11 CPU) unless the next FSR release is taking advantage of the superior A.I ability of the 8945HS which is a real possibility though, it could be slightly more future proof. i like the K11 design though, its vortex RGB is giving the K11 a futuristic vibes
Hi, thank you very much for the information you provide in this video. But I have a question: does the processor that comes with this Ryzen 7 8845HS computer have an AI NPU? I don't understand why this mini PC is not promoted with AI features when GeeKom or Beelink are promoted with AI with the same processor. I would appreciate it if someone could help me with my question.
@@ursie101 Hi, Yes the K8 PLUS comes with the exact same CPU with the same A.I Capacity. A.I NPU is at this stage much more a marketing stunt than a real utility in your every day usage of your system, however it is kind of " Future Proof" as the upcoming next FSR version will use A.I for upscaling, so owners of A.I NPU will get a premium FSR usage compared to the owner of an AMD 7840 for exemple. GMKtec is manufacturing it s own Products whereas Beelink, Minisforum, ect are Brands and are relying on third party manufacturers to build their Mini PC, so from the get go they were more into Marketing than GMKtec which is relying on its low cost and production edge to sell its unit. But yes GMKtec could have push the A.I narrative like AceMagic is doing at the moment with some of their models. Note that Geekom is in my opinion the most overpriced Mini PC Brand, you are paying a premium price just to get a White/Beige case.
@Ghost-Keyboard Hello! I really appreciate your time in answering. I had a lot of doubts because this GMKtec is almost 200 dollars cheaper than the GeeKom A8. But thanks to your explanation I will buy the GMKtec!
How would you rate this Mini PC compared to um890 with the 8945HS? does Minisforum is a safer buy, i am waiting for black friday sales for pulling the trigger but i won't mind paying a bit more for a better quality.
The 8945hs is virtually the same cpu/gpu the only thing that changes is 100mhz of boost and a higher base clock, but if you run a powerbank this is actually worse as it uses more power at idle.
If I have the eGPU cable connected to the K8+ but wanted to use the iGPU, do I have to remove the oculink cable? Or do I just keep the eGPU's power supply unplugged. (I'm aware the oculink is not hot-swap)
@@Ghost-Keyboard Hi, Thank you so much for the reply. I'm glad that I asked. Your videos are detailed and highly useful. I've decided to go with K8+ and RTX 4060, and waiting excitedly for the shipment. Cheers.
@ Nice Choice, The GMKtec K8 PLUS is the best deal you can find for the 8845HS and the Oculink port, the new cooling design is a real improvement from the previous K8 model. With the RTX 4060, High setting at 1440P will be a piece of cake, 😀👍
Hi, No you don t have to disable the IGPU in the Bios, note that you didable the igpu in Windows device manager in the display monitor tab, disabling igpu is optional and should be done if your egpu has poor performances or if your gpu is not detected.
Does the K8 plus worth upgrading from Beelink SER 6 Pro, i am not interest in egpu, i am only looking for better gaming performance without buying graphic card, thanks you
For best standalone gaming performance you should get an "ai 9 hx 370" model Beelink has one and Minisforum also has one but they are both around $1000. Gmktec will release their own version next month, it will possible be slightly cheaper
@@jhonanderflores1006 the K8 has a more powerful CPU with the AMD 8845HS which is in the Top mobile AMD CPU, so the K8 Plus will outperform the M7, but i get your request, we don t know how much better will the K8 Plus be compared to the M7, it s a good topic for a video, thanks you for the idea. But actually i was thinking about comparing the K8 Plus with the GEM 12 which have a similar CPU, after this K8 Plus review i can say that those 2 models are very close to each other but the K8 Plus beat the GEM 12 at Time Spy and it is extraordinary Quiet, but i need to do more test than just 3DMark.
@ I totally get it, i think some games tested in the K8 PLUS have also been tested in the M7 review, it may not be some solide references as thiose 2 models have been tested with different eGPU and it is not as good as a side by side game test but still you can get a glimpse of an idea of the performance difference, i think there is not much difference overall
@@Ghost-Keyboard M7 pro (6950h) is even more close to K8 plus (8845hs) than the M7 (6850h). M7 pro has higher cpu and igpu clock speed. But sure, 8845hs should outperform those M7 variants. M7 gets 13k points in cinebench r23 multicore. I already have two m7 and a k8 plus is on my way :) I think I will make a homelab cluster from the three machines. Usb4 ports can be used as thunderbolt p2p network with a simple cable between machines. I got 12.5Gbps real bandwith between two m7 under ubuntu. Fow AI stuff, 780m may have better AI support than 680m, but on windows LM Studio was able to use 680m too, but had similar result like its cpu based performance.
The 100-dollar difference is justified by two reasons: 1. The performance of the processor and integrated graphics card is 25% higher. 2. The compatibility with the AI of the K8 Pro processor provides an advantage in terms of performance, efficiency, and future applications, making this computer more scalable.
@@Alecup06 oh, i can t explain you everything in a single comment, but you don t need to buy something to connect to an egpu, the egpu comes with all the cable you need, you may need to buy a Power Supply Unit (PSU) to power your eGPU and GPU unless you buy an egpu like the Aoostar AG02 which have an integrated PSU. You can watch my Aoostar AG02 egpu & OCUP4 egpu video to get a better idea of how egpu works
Hi. Well done review full of explanations! Have a question: when using oculink the hdmi cable starts from the minipc or from the egpu? I want to buy this setup and just wanna be sure of the things to do 😅 Thank you a lot 👍🏻
@@unoqualunque77 Hi, Thank you for your warm comment, when you are using the EGPU the HDMI cable should be plugged into your GPU and NOT your Mini PC, i made a detailed Tutorial on EGPU set up with the "OCUP4" Video available on my channel.
Do you think it a good upgrade if I pair my laptop's ryzen 5 4600h with a egpu RTX 4070 or something and after using it for a while I would build a seperate pc
@@ishanayush1611 Hi, as you said that you are planning to build a new PC, The RTX 4070 can t possibly be a waste, The 4600H is PCIE 3 and a quite old CPU, so you can expect significant performance loss if you are using Thunderbolt type eGPU (20%-+30%) with PCIE 3 NVME or Oculink you can expect 15%-25% performance loss depending of the game, but the RTX 4070 is such a powerful GPU that you will even with performance loss have High/Max setting gameplay ecperience.
@Ghost-Keyboard Hey, thanks for the reply. Most probably I will be using nvme slot to use either directly or a converter to oculink as I don't have a thunderbolt port. Also do I need to change any BIOS settings for this?
@@ishanayush1611 i am glad to hear that my comment is helpful. About the Bios, you don t need to change anything, it should work on the go, you can watch my Oculink Friendly eGPU tutorial to get the complete step by step procedure for the setting of your NVME/Oculink eGPU, have fun 😄
@@jameskim5279 it won t change much in the majority of the games but in some games 64GB will make a difference like in Minecraft with heavy ressources pack and shaders also if you are editing with Davinci or Adobe then 64GB RAM will get you better editing performance, if you can afford to buy 64GB then go for 64GB, the AMD 8845HS is a powerful CPU, it will make a good use of these 64GB 😀
Hi, Sorry about the inconvenience, in my latest published video, i have an upgraded A.I Voice Over which is a big improvement in my opinion, have a nice Week-End.
![Incredible Performance & Value from $389! [GMKtec NucBox K8 Plus REVIEW]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/OkaSLBVLPp0/mqdefault.jpg)
I really appreciate this review amigo. I was not expecting for it to be so thorough, like testing the low/mid/high settings on the iGPU. It made for a better idea of performance 👍 PS - just subbed!
@@zerocal76 Hi again, on my side i really appreciate you appreciate my review, i am trying to provide the viewers a Maximum of FPS references, so the viewers have more material to make their own comparison with other system, and make the best possible choice.
This content deserves Like 😊
Very comprehensive explanation
@@azizimran8805 Thanks you, i appreciate, have a nice Week-end.
Love the review!!!! Long time waiting for it. I suggest u all this model, cheap and powlerfull i got mine for 300usd ish
@@aekprm435 Excellent! Can you confirm me that your unit is as quiet as mine? Noise level and Cooling design are really the key features of this mini PC model with the low CPU temperature under stress environement and the dead silent fan RPM
@Ghost-Keyboard is very quiet indeed.
@
Thanks for the confirmatiom 👍
man minipc are kicking my old desktop :))
@@RoyVincentNiepes Yeah, that s why i have fallen in love with those little box. 😀
Thanks, i was looking for a review of this model.❤ awesome gamectedting FR
I was thinking about a Minisforum 780M XTX , now i am thinking about this model, because the miniforum is barebone only and more expensive, thank you GhostKeyboard 😁
The GMKtec K8 PLUS is a better deal, and the Minisforum UM780 has a lower CPU spec
We have sale fow gem12 just 300usd barebone
Looks almost exactly the same as the cheap M7 (6850h) model.
Btw, if you put stuff on top of the machine, you can break the lid, I think.
I did put self adhesive furniture leg pads to the four corner of the top black plastic. The thinner 3mm felt type fits perfectly, doesn't interfere with the transparent lid and it supports the weight of stuff put top of the machine :)
For Swixxx emulation under windows is it better to run the emulator from retrobat or stand-alone?
Which is less demanding?
Thanks 😊
@@unoqualunque77 For Switch you may have better performances with a stand alone emulator depending of the game, Retrobat should work fine though (Without FPS loss) with lower gen console emulator, but if you are using an EGPU with a dedicated Graphic Card (GPU) then Retrobat is fine with everything even Switch games as you will have more graphic Hardware ressource available.
How much for this setup
Hi
Mini PC 529$
EGPU 70$
PSU 40$
GPU 1000$
I want a budget setup just like that
@@andrebradley1924
If you want a Budget setting then you can buy for GPU the Intel ARC B580 at 300$ instead of the NVIDIA RTX 4080 Super, the ARC B580 is the best 300$ GPU on the Market by a landslide.
Good review, tks
Amazing little Pc, i like the idea of egpu to upgrade the graphic power, what other GPU u recommend?
It's a cool video, but I'm not sure why you're running FSR or DLLS in ultra performance mode. It looks terrible. I think DLLS or FSR to quality setting is the best option for boosting FPS with minimal loss of picture quality. Could you test it with ultra performance and quality for a couple of tests? I always choose quality mode and lower some graphic settings for a good-looking picture and good FPS when I want to play the game.
@@mtwsilent Hi, i am about to publish a Video which Topic is " GMKtec K8 PLUS Vs Aoostar GEM12" i am trying to add more Native game run at Max setting, i thought i did have included Native setting in this very review but your comment make me doubt now
@Ghost-Keyboard Yes, the video is excellent, you can clearly see the performance, but if you look at the test with iGPU, you can see everywhere how the picture looks very bad because of FSR Ultraperfomance, by the way, I also wanted to say that I noticed that you have in all tests the maximum consumption of 54W, but you can enable Perfomance mode in BIOS and the maximum consumption will grow to 65-70W, which will greatly affect the FPS, you have not tested in this mode? Also it increases all performance in Cinebench and others.
Oh Okay, you are talking about FSR, yes FSR is generally performing poorly specially on games developed with the collaboration of Nvidia, idk know which game you are refering too, but yes i will try lower upscalling if 60 FPS is not miles away.
About TDP, Standard review are made at balance mode (54W), 70W isn t making much difference, i am an advocate of CPU Core Boost disabled in the Bios, i made videos (GMK M6) showing that 54 Watt is not giving significant performance boost compared to lower 20 Watt in gaming, the truth is that it all depend of your CPU and the Motherboard default setting, most of the Time, those extra Watt are wasted, and 70 Watt TDP will with time shorten your hardware lifespan by wearing more on component, also things can go wrong with high TDP.
Thanks a lot for your commen, much appreciate
Do you know if the gmktec k11 is better than this pc sonce it has a ryzen 9 ?
@@RealImmP3rfect Hi, The K11 has a better NPU (A.I Performances) but a similar CPU specs, The 8945HS should have similar performances than the 8845HS except for A.I application, to be clear you won t have better Gaming performances with the 8945HS (K11 CPU) unless the next FSR release is taking advantage of the superior A.I ability of the 8945HS which is a real possibility though, it could be slightly more future proof.
i like the K11 design though, its vortex RGB is giving the K11 a futuristic vibes
@Ghost-Keyboard thx
Hi, thank you very much for the information you provide in this video. But I have a question: does the processor that comes with this Ryzen 7 8845HS computer have an AI NPU? I don't understand why this mini PC is not promoted with AI features when GeeKom or Beelink are promoted with AI with the same processor.
I would appreciate it if someone could help me with my question.
@@ursie101 Hi, Yes the K8 PLUS comes with the exact same CPU with the same A.I Capacity.
A.I NPU is at this stage much more a marketing stunt than a real utility in your every day usage of your system, however it is kind of " Future Proof" as the upcoming next FSR version will use A.I for upscaling, so owners of A.I NPU will get a premium FSR usage compared to the owner of an AMD 7840 for exemple.
GMKtec is manufacturing it s own Products whereas Beelink, Minisforum, ect are Brands and are relying on third party manufacturers to build their Mini PC, so from the get go they were more into Marketing than GMKtec which is relying on its low cost and production edge to sell its unit. But yes GMKtec could have push the A.I narrative like AceMagic is doing at the moment with some of their models.
Note that Geekom is in my opinion the most overpriced Mini PC Brand, you are paying a premium price just to get a White/Beige case.
@Ghost-Keyboard Hello! I really appreciate your time in answering. I had a lot of doubts because this GMKtec is almost 200 dollars cheaper than the GeeKom A8. But thanks to your explanation I will buy the GMKtec!
How would you rate this Mini PC compared to um890 with the 8945HS? does Minisforum is a safer buy, i am waiting for black friday sales for pulling the trigger but i won't mind paying a bit more for a better quality.
The 8945hs is virtually the same cpu/gpu the only thing that changes is 100mhz of boost and a higher base clock, but if you run a powerbank this is actually worse as it uses more power at idle.
If I have the eGPU cable connected to the K8+ but wanted to use the iGPU, do I have to remove the oculink cable? Or do I just keep the eGPU's power supply unplugged. (I'm aware the oculink is not hot-swap)
Hi, as there is some power management going through the Oculink cable, i wouldn t let the Oculink cable plugged.
@@Ghost-Keyboard Hi, Thank you so much for the reply. I'm glad that I asked. Your videos are detailed and highly useful. I've decided to go with K8+ and RTX 4060, and waiting excitedly for the shipment. Cheers.
@ Nice Choice, The GMKtec K8 PLUS is the best deal you can find for the 8845HS and the Oculink port, the new cooling design is a real improvement from the previous K8 model. With the RTX 4060, High setting at 1440P will be a piece of cake, 😀👍
Can you try stable diffusion on this mini pc using your external gpu?
Hi, thanks you for the idea, i will include stable diffusion test in my next publication, that's a good idea
Hi, do you maybe know what the maximum refresh rate this model supports for 4k resolution?
Hi, For streaming 240Hz but for gaming you would need a high end GPU just like a Desktop PC,
@@Ghost-Keyboard Thanks a lot for replying! Appreciate it.
that mini pc can play dota 2?
@@JosephPaulMarbas-c4h Hi, Sure it can.
Are you sure it's quiet? why can't we hear fan spin in your review? Is that legit quiet?
Yes, just as shown in the review, i wish it was less quiet as people have doubt that it is so quiet
Ты это сделал как обещал) ждем сравнение с gem12. Добавь в видео субтитры, для возможности автоперевода
@@ВадимСедельников-м9ф спасибо, да, я добавлю субтитры в свои будущие видео.
Do I have to disable on the BIOS the iGPU (amd 780) while running oculink + 4070 super on the minisforum um890 pro ?
Hi, No you don t have to disable the IGPU in the Bios, note that you didable the igpu in Windows device manager in the display monitor tab, disabling igpu is optional and should be done if your egpu has poor performances or if your gpu is not detected.
Does the K8 plus worth upgrading from Beelink SER 6 Pro, i am not interest in egpu, i am only looking for better gaming performance without buying graphic card, thanks you
For best standalone gaming performance you should get an "ai 9 hx 370" model Beelink has one and Minisforum also has one but they are both around $1000. Gmktec will release their own version next month, it will possible be slightly cheaper
M7 vs k8?
@@jhonanderflores1006 the K8 has a more powerful CPU with the AMD 8845HS which is in the Top mobile AMD CPU, so the K8 Plus will outperform the M7, but i get your request, we don t know how much better will the K8 Plus be compared to the M7, it s a good topic for a video, thanks you for the idea.
But actually i was thinking about comparing the K8 Plus with the GEM 12 which have a similar CPU, after this K8 Plus review i can say that those 2 models are very close to each other but the K8 Plus beat the GEM 12 at Time Spy and it is extraordinary Quiet, but i need to do more test than just 3DMark.
@Ghost-Keyboard I understand, I would like you to make a comparison but with an eGPU, I need to know if those extra $100 for the k8 would be worth it
@ I totally get it, i think some games tested in the K8 PLUS have also been tested in the M7 review, it may not be some solide references as thiose 2 models have been tested with different eGPU and it is not as good as a side by side game test but still you can get a glimpse of an idea of the performance difference, i think there is not much difference overall
@@Ghost-Keyboard M7 pro (6950h) is even more close to K8 plus (8845hs) than the M7 (6850h). M7 pro has higher cpu and igpu clock speed. But sure, 8845hs should outperform those M7 variants. M7 gets 13k points in cinebench r23 multicore.
I already have two m7 and a k8 plus is on my way :) I think I will make a homelab cluster from the three machines. Usb4 ports can be used as thunderbolt p2p network with a simple cable between machines. I got 12.5Gbps real bandwith between two m7 under ubuntu.
Fow AI stuff, 780m may have better AI support than 680m, but on windows LM Studio was able to use 680m too, but had similar result like its cpu based performance.
The 100-dollar difference is justified by two reasons:
1. The performance of the processor and integrated graphics card is 25% higher.
2. The compatibility with the AI of the K8 Pro processor provides an advantage in terms of performance, efficiency, and future applications, making this computer more scalable.
What do i need to buy to connect to egpu i never done this before
@@Alecup06 oh, i can t explain you everything in a single comment, but you don t need to buy something to connect to an egpu, the egpu comes with all the cable you need, you may need to buy a Power Supply Unit (PSU) to power your eGPU and GPU unless you buy an egpu like the Aoostar AG02 which have an integrated PSU. You can watch my Aoostar AG02 egpu & OCUP4 egpu video to get a better idea of how egpu works
Hi. Well done review full of explanations!
Have a question: when using oculink the hdmi cable starts from the minipc or from the egpu?
I want to buy this setup and just wanna be sure of the things to do 😅
Thank you a lot 👍🏻
@@unoqualunque77 Hi, Thank you for your warm comment, when you are using the EGPU the HDMI cable should be plugged into your GPU and NOT your Mini PC, i made a detailed Tutorial on EGPU set up with the "OCUP4" Video available on my channel.
Do you think it a good upgrade if I pair my laptop's ryzen 5 4600h with a egpu RTX 4070 or something and after using it for a while I would build a seperate pc
@@ishanayush1611 Hi, as you said that you are planning to build a new PC, The RTX 4070 can t possibly be a waste,
The 4600H is PCIE 3 and a quite old CPU, so you can expect significant performance loss if you are using Thunderbolt type eGPU (20%-+30%) with PCIE 3 NVME or Oculink you can expect 15%-25% performance loss depending of the game, but the RTX 4070 is such a powerful GPU that you will even with performance loss have High/Max setting gameplay ecperience.
@Ghost-Keyboard Hey, thanks for the reply. Most probably I will be using nvme slot to use either directly or a converter to oculink as I don't have a thunderbolt port. Also do I need to change any BIOS settings for this?
@@ishanayush1611 i am glad to hear that my comment is helpful.
About the Bios, you don t need to change anything, it should work on the go, you can watch my Oculink Friendly eGPU tutorial to get the complete step by step procedure for the setting of your NVME/Oculink eGPU, have fun 😄
ram 32 or 64g is better for this model?
@@jameskim5279 it won t change much in the majority of the games but in some games 64GB will make a difference like in Minecraft with heavy ressources pack and shaders also if you are editing with Davinci or Adobe then 64GB RAM will get you better editing performance, if you can afford to buy 64GB then go for 64GB, the AMD 8845HS is a powerful CPU, it will make a good use of these 64GB 😀
Can it 4k 120hz the hdmi port?
@@PoloHungary Hi, Sure, the K8 PLUS offers an HDMI 2.1 port that can support up to 8K monitor
These AI voice overs are super annoying. I'd rather hear the speaker talking in their native language and just read the subtitles.
Hi, Sorry about the inconvenience, in my latest published video, i have an upgraded A.I Voice Over which is a big improvement in my opinion, have a nice Week-End.
Don't mind the robo voice because I can understand the great review,😊 blows away eta prime's review...
@@williamsimpson3155 Thanks, it means a lot to me 😊
Can I buy this from you? 🤑
@@E-thereal-V Hi, Sorry but i don t sell anything, why would you want to buy it from me?
When I hear AI voice I just think it's channel that has no idea what they're saying 😂 sorry can't watch
Hi, if you won t watch then you wouldn t know, look is sometime deceiving