I think Dave Draper is the blonde bomber and as far as muscle separation and dexter being the best I don’t agree. Flex Wheeler is known to have the best muscle separation of all time. Arnold said it, Chris Aceto, has said it multiple times on heavy muscle radio. Just saying, Look at Wheelers arms where his triceps seperate from his brachials and biceps.
If lee priest was around during this era he would’ve stopped at that 16 year old size started a TH-cam channel landed a gym shark sponsorship and coasted. 😂
4:30 I can't stop seeing him as a normal sized guy popping up from a different body, like his traps are actually his shoulders. He has such a straight shelf through his shoulders and chest
The intro to this video is SO critical! Genetics is such a broad term and means a lot of different things, at different times, to different people. This is setting up to be a great countdown!
Totally agree. Multiple account say he didn't even really train. And when he did, he used weight that normal, natural, every day gym-goers use (and strained with it) and yet he looked effing ridiculous. This coming from multiple sources that knew him personally (Chris Aceto, Lee Priest, etc.). If he had Ronnie's or Dorian's mind, he would have been 10x Mr. O.
@robert lamotta no kiddin right? I think he accidently typed "girlfriend" by accident. What Tim *meant* to say that it was his own mom who's chest was shat on..... he's just jealous...
@@liquidsquid101 no. He's actually a very intelligent, introspective guy that just doesn't give a shit what anybody thinks is all. And if you're going to judge a man by the tattoos he has, I'm not sure what that says about you but it doesn't say much LOL
kevrin lebrone was literally the most hypnotic physique in all history of bodybuilding.... first thing i noticed about this guy are his tricep sweeps. ridiculous!
My list of best genetics. No specific order 1.) Ronnie Coleman for size 2.) Flex Wheeler shape 3.) Phill Heath shape and insertions 4.) Kevin levrone trained only 6 months of the year 5.) Dorian Yates for his size and density 6.)Arnold shape and fullness 7.)Lee Priest arm to waist ratio 8.)Lee Haney mass and small waist 9.) Victor Richards size and waist 10.) Sergio Oliva muscle insertions and size 11.) Shawn Ray for illusion. To be outwieghed by 50 lbs or so and still look full with such great shape 12.) And can't forget the vampire himself dexter for conditioning and shape plus he never even did cardio till he was older
you guys only see muscles. what about the bone structure? Priest, Heath, Ray, Wheeler for instance are very narrow across the shoulders and out of proportion; with a shirt on they look like midgets. In my eyes they don't deserve being on this list, not even on the Olympia stage. You're supposed to be as wide as possible on the top while keeping a narrow waist and creating a V taper and an X frame. I know peple who didn't touch a weight in their life and still wider than a lot of those so called bodybuilding legends Ruhl, Ramy, Nasser, Cutler, Gunter, these are the true genetic freaks with wide clavicles
This is really good work bro... I’m a long time bodybuilding fan... I’m still amazed that Shawn or Kevin aren’t Olympia champs... Two of my personal all time favorites..
I agree with this list but I think anyone competing at the Olympia level has to have god like genetics. Sheer determination and hard work will carry you a long way but genetics I think is what separates the top pros from the JAGS
They say Arnold Schwarzenegger had the most perfect built body, they said that all of his muscles were equally built, which is hard to do in bodybuilding. My Brother ate dinner at his house with him and his wife years ago, which was back in the late 80's, my Brother said he was huge.
Best channel of REAL BB 4ever! I was a little surprised to hear that Shawn is your favorite bb, he has good proportions but arms deficient and insertion of the triceps rather flat ...
@@konstantindrumev8036 it's kinda like the background is moving but his body is still it's hard to explain... Make sure your phone is bright enough to see it
@@griffithstifler5027 though your statement isn't false, wouldn't this make you more of a Mr O? Not sure that needed to be pointed out lol. At least my statement had an example that could be looked to.
Also how resilient you are to injury and ability to withstand (drugs) ware and teare are the most under rated imo. One could also argue a strong spirit is somewhat genetic. It's such a complex statement so ty for giving us ur definition.
jarvis thomas Nah it's no bs we tend to have high insertions and long tendons which is horrible for aesthetics but amazing for performance. Look at the track landscape, NBA, NFL, etc. Athletic black dudes with the best speed around and miniscule calves.
Dimitri Wega ye I have an Asian friend and one of my other white friends have the short calves and I have long calves and they can both run so much faster and jump higher
One thing about Yates: People always say that his exceptional conditioning and hard looks was only due to scientific dieting and training. What if he just had superior genetics in that regard? Paper thin skin, all those striations, etc. I think he had freaky genetics, maybe not aesthetic but he looked very "unique". That back was just out of this world... definitely best back and calves ever and his thighs were also super striated and aesthetic. It's not just about different body parts, it's just the whole appearance and Yates looked unique and freakish in very... hmm... exceptional way. Sure Ronnie was even bigger, rounder and was more "complete" but he didn't look as "freaky". I can't really explain it. Cheers... and keep up the good work!
I agree with you about how black guys don't always have the best calves, Dillets Calves were pretty damn impressive for a black guy. I should know, always had problems growing mine and on top of that, most the black guys I see in the gym have pretty small/under developed calves. White guys will, 9 times out of ten, have better calves than black guys.
This is painfully true....even though still taboo and people don't want to hear it. My good buddy is a white dude. He's a good guy but lazy as shit and makes an appearance in the gym once every 5 months or so because we know the owner and he gets a free membership. When we play basketball all the black guys wear track pants and he wears XXL Nike shorts to show off his massive and impressive calves. Little do people know that this fool don't train calves at all.....He always had them big calves.
I agree 100% that they should remake the Mr.Olympia and put Kevin Levrone doing the twisting back trouble bicep. Nobody in bodybuilding history can hit that pose as beautiful as Kevin Levrone.
yeah whoever put this list together obviously hasnt looked at anything before 1990 except for the odd popular black and white. Bill Pearly surely should be on the list. Nubret perhaps, definitely arnold, haney and Vince Taylor. to have Ray on there and not Labrada shows where the focus is. Also conspicuously absent is Phil Hernon and Matt Mendenhall - both genetic freaks.
I had a friend one week in the gym, he looks 10 times better than everyone that’s been in the gym for years. Once he smells the weight, his body get pumped up like crazy. He was genetically gifted.
I also had a friend who went from 83 kg to 101kg in 12 weeks. He started at about 13 percent body fat to begin with and after 12 weeks was sitting around 7-8 percent. His bench also went from 70kg to 150kg for 8 x 3 sets. Yep no lie, grew though 5 sizes of shirts in this time.
You don't have to train abs directly to have visible abs. Pull ups, push ups, tricep pull down, squats, lunges, all indirectly work the abs. Pull ups and push ups probably indirectly work abs the most on the ones I mentioned.
Best genetics for symmetry with size on a frame I've ever seen was the little Egyptian Mohamed Makkawy who probably is lost in this conversation because of this small stature..........but at his peak he was the best I've seen genetically.
Lee's Victory pose was attainable because his thick arms were so SHORT, while Sergio's arms were, technically, too LONG for bodybuilding, but SO THICK that it didn't matter.
In my opinion levrone should be much higher , he won his first show at the age of 21 i think all natural , he weighed at 208 pounds sliced , later he achieved naturally 245 pounds lean , and in 1993 after the injury trained for 2 months and placed top5 , just insane genetics for growth , once he had a food poisoning and was hardly eating and still gained 4 pounds of lean mass , just unreal .
I will , also to mention his crazy strenght and athleticism that he had , its just unreal , from powerlifting , sprinting , jumping just unreal. Ronie C better be no1 , cuz he had the best package , even more than Philip Heath
Fitness and Gaming coleman? lol are you for real? Coleman started around the same time as levrone yet didnt come close to the top5 for years. Dont see how he is more genetically gifted than kevin. the only way he could become massive and by upping his drug use to the roof while throwing away his aesthetics and grow a pregnancy gut. kevin on the other hand became a mass monster while keeping aesthetic. Kevin was way more genetically gifted.
Ronie was at the beggining of his career natural , competed in his first mr o naturally , he told with no bs , he told us when he started taking the stuff to , and from the body completeness Ronie is on a bigger level than anyone we have ever seen
Tomn8er do not tell me phil heath is number 1.altho he should be in top 3 for sure ,just judging by your last shadow pic,im guessing hes gonna be first.i expect to see flex,ronnie,phil,big ramy(why not) and idk who else. But like you said,being geneticly gifted can refer to a lot of things.flex imo should be at first spot(altho i might be bias cuz his 93 version is best ever if you ask me).but if the criteria is who has the least flaws,then yea, phil wins most likely.
It’d be interesting to have a Mr. Olympia show at twice yearly intervals, 6 months OFF, then 6 months ON steroids. The same competitors deciding overall title in the 2nd show ON steroids. That way we see the difference the gear makes and have a measure how much it contributes to their competitive edge.
He didn't say "how much", he simply said the probably used it, and the fact is the absolutely did. If you suggest otherwise, it means two things. You are either one of them who uses, but never admits, or your knowledge of bodybuilding is nonexistent.
Why do the "genetics discussion" always stop at the things discussed here? I mean, the thing Dorian said, his opponents were genetically superior but he out worked them, how is that not genetic? Being of a certain height of having some specific muscle insertion is just as much genetic as having world class discipline and ability to outwork someone. "He has better genetics so you have to work harder" is so dumb, the ability to work hard is just as much a genetic feature as anything else. Some people are smarter, more driven, have a higher pain tolerance, more focus etc. That should be in the genetic discussion just as much as easily measurable physical features...
I am glad I subscribed to your channel.Who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time!I want to see bodybuilding get huge again!I laugh because you do not need juice to be in competetion form.I will put some pictures of myself before next Arnold Classic,just to prove that these competetors are not that special and I am 50yrs old.Great pictures Tom!
Eddie Hall could have excelled too genetically as a bodybuilder. He'd be an awesome fighter too as his neck looks like it's well over 20 inches but check out Beny Magnusson's diamond shaped calves
9:08 I know I’m late to the party but Lee actually didn’t start taking PHDs until the age of 18. And you can see that he was pretty light as well, mostly competing in the under 150lbs class (70kg). On stage footage shows his real size next to other competitors and he wasn’t as huge but his shape and conditioning was above anyone else.
I had pleasure of bumping in Dexter Jackson in Beverly Hills , very nice guy. After a short talk n a brief observation of his proportions, i thanked him for showing me what role genetics play in bodybuilding n went home to sell all my dumbbells 😂
"isnt that problem many of us would like to have" It would be if I didn't have to eat 4000 calories just to barely maintain weight and I'm not even 140 pounds
Exactly, I have the same problem, eating and training a ahit ton, still barely anything progresses other than conditioning, luckily I'm at 182lbs after 5 or so years
Easy fix, stop eating shitty, concentrate on eating complex carbs and protein. Eat in a surplus. Or, you can slow down your metabolism by slowly lowering your calories overtime, same thing as dieting. There are no excuses for this not working.
Might've messed up those ages of you know who... Didn't read the caption of that middle pic til after but oh well you still get the point :P
also for dexter. I challenge you to find anyone with better muscle separation than him
Tomn8er Lee has gone on record that he was natural until age 19
Now that you mention it that rings a bell. If that's true then just more evidence of his great genetics.
Where would you say guys like Kai Greene and Lou Ferrigno factor into the genetics categories?
I think Dave Draper is the blonde bomber and as far as muscle separation and dexter being the best I don’t agree. Flex Wheeler is known to have the best muscle separation of all time. Arnold said it, Chris Aceto, has said it multiple times on heavy muscle radio. Just saying, Look at Wheelers arms where his triceps seperate from his brachials and biceps.
If lee priest was around during this era he would’ve stopped at that 16 year old size started a TH-cam channel landed a gym shark sponsorship and coasted. 😂
😂😂😂
Lol
Facts lmao
Lol 100%
FUCKING FACTS 🤣🤣
The Levrone 3/4 back double biceps pose would make an ICONIC BODYBUILDING TROPHY.
If they ever make a new trophy, it'd most certainly be Arnold
The ONLY one to fill it better than Arnold.
Paul Dillet looks invincible, but from the back he goes AWOL, and his posing is like a suicide attempt.
Lee's forearms in that victory pose is incredible
7:23 Dillett had no back, but the size of his rear delts OMFG
They make even Marcus ruhls rear delts look small I'm not kidding
Good list but I'd definitely place Dillett even higher. The guy was TALL on top of his incredible genetics. 6'1 or 6'2 (depending on the source).
Yeah, I would place him a spot or two higher if I made this video again
he's 6'4 pretty tall
@@brianandrickson That’s abnormally tall
Paul was def a freak but his asthma and inability to hold a pose really hurt him when it came to competing
God only knows how great dillett coud have been if he put 100% in at the gym and didn't have asthma
4:30 I can't stop seeing him as a normal sized guy popping up from a different body, like his traps are actually his shoulders. He has such a straight shelf through his shoulders and chest
Holy shit! I cant unsee this...
He’s just molting guys
LMAO
The intro to this video is SO critical! Genetics is such a broad term and means a lot of different things, at different times, to different people. This is setting up to be a great countdown!
Shawn’s physique is unmatchable. The skin, the look, the balance, makes him one of his kind.
Flex wheeler, brian buchanan, robbie robinson, lee haney
must be hard typing all that with one hand
3:58 when dexter possessed one of the greatest abs and thigh shots of all time! Just perfect 💪🏼
I really appreciate your opinions and views, you communicate them very well and consistently. Good stuff.
thank you
I was dying when you said “is it ok to say I hate this man”. 🤣🤣🤣
I cant imagine no one other most genetically gifted than Dillet. Even though he was not Mr. O
Enterprise Earth He was an absolute freak
Enterprise Earth I think he looks very aesthetic and I think he has the best crucifix pose I've ever seen and probably ever will see
Igor Teixe no symmetry
Totally agree. Multiple account say he didn't even really train. And when he did, he used weight that normal, natural, every day gym-goers use (and strained with it) and yet he looked effing ridiculous. This coming from multiple sources that knew him personally (Chris Aceto, Lee Priest, etc.). If he had Ronnie's or Dorian's mind, he would have been 10x Mr. O.
remember that dude's veins , it looked like someone buried cable wire in his skin
Very informative and very professional post, great analysis "full package" from beginning to end ...well done.
LEE PRIEST such a beautiful person TATOOS his face. Its a weird and strange WORLD
Agree!!
@robert lamotta no kiddin right? I think he accidently typed "girlfriend" by accident. What Tim *meant* to say that it was his own mom who's chest was shat on..... he's just jealous...
@@liquidsquid101 no. He's actually a very intelligent, introspective guy that just doesn't give a shit what anybody thinks is all. And if you're going to judge a man by the tattoos he has, I'm not sure what that says about you but it doesn't say much LOL
He's getting the face tattoos removed
@@pitbull82 he's getting them removed so he can re tattoo his face with something different. He's had those face tattoos for 13 years
2:00 I thought it's the rock without the tats.
Kent Rodano naw too much abs
Same
Today i think Lionel Beyeke has premium genetics, he has a Flex Wheeler structure going on but fails to nail the conditioning though.
kevrin lebrone was literally the most hypnotic physique in all history of bodybuilding.... first thing i noticed about this guy are his tricep sweeps. ridiculous!
Fr, I’m a huge fan of his triceps because of the sweep. I just think it’s badass how they look pointy af
Some of these guys look like they’d be the final boss of some 90’s fighter game lol
My list of best genetics.
No specific order
1.) Ronnie Coleman for size
2.) Flex Wheeler shape
3.) Phill Heath shape and insertions
4.) Kevin levrone trained only 6 months of the year
5.) Dorian Yates for his size and density
6.)Arnold shape and fullness
7.)Lee Priest arm to waist ratio
8.)Lee Haney mass and small waist
9.) Victor Richards size and waist
10.) Sergio Oliva muscle insertions and size
11.) Shawn Ray for illusion. To be outwieghed by 50 lbs or so and still look full with such great shape
12.) And can't forget the vampire himself dexter for conditioning and shape plus he never even did cardio till he was older
William Garcia great list, would replace Lee Priest with Victor Martinez.
Since when genetics work only for specific parts of the body???
Such an idiotic list!!!
Hello? Frank zane for aestheticssssss
Brian Buchanan?
you guys only see muscles. what about the bone structure? Priest, Heath, Ray, Wheeler for instance are very narrow across the shoulders and out of proportion; with a shirt on they look like midgets. In my eyes they don't deserve being on this list, not even on the Olympia stage. You're supposed to be as wide as possible on the top while keeping a narrow waist and creating a V taper and an X frame. I know peple who didn't touch a weight in their life and still wider than a lot of those so called bodybuilding legends
Ruhl, Ramy, Nasser, Cutler, Gunter, these are the true genetic freaks with wide clavicles
Kevin deserved 1 Olympia win for sure, and a second win that could've gone to him.
This is really good work bro... I’m a long time bodybuilding fan... I’m still amazed that Shawn or Kevin aren’t Olympia champs... Two of my personal all time favorites..
I agree with this list but I think anyone competing at the Olympia level has to have god like genetics. Sheer determination and hard work will carry you a long way but genetics I think is what separates the top pros from the JAGS
Yes very true
You cant duplicate lee’s cobra pose. Dudes forearms were the same size as his cannons for arms.
Lee priest was one of the most genetically gifted b. B's of all time imo
Oliva was better
Phil heath is the most photoshopped bodybuilder of all time
They say Arnold Schwarzenegger had the most perfect built body, they said that all of his muscles were equally built, which is hard to do in bodybuilding. My Brother ate dinner at his house with him and his wife years ago, which was back in the late 80's, my Brother said he was huge.
Roy Patterson love em or hate him perfect is like a Phil Heath before the bubble gut.
madmaxrerisen and his legs where small
Another thing about dexter Jackson is that he’s been so consistent for so long. I think that’s a big indicator of his good genetics
Proper mindset for bodybuilding anyway.
Best BB Channel of all of them
Great video, with fantastic commentary to go along with it!
Trill this is really good content wow dude
My ranking :
- 1 ronney Coleman
- 2 Phil heath
- 3 flex Wheeler
- 4 Kevin leverone
- 5 Sergio Olivia
- 6 Big ramy
- 7 Arnold
- 8 Dexter the blade Jackson
- 9 Victor Martinez
- 10 Samir banout
Samir and Victor?
No way
SERGIO. Was PERFECTION..MYTH RIP
Thank you for making videos, it helps me deal with my crazy eating disorders while trying to get shredded.
Lee Priest still looks jacked and all the others went to shit. Hes the best.
Uh No, he's a midget.
No offense, Midgets.
it helps when you get GH from age 12...and yes, a midget. if thats genetically blessed, then you are correct..
Edward Fortae I agree. As for the “midget” comments... idiots. Those
Guys will Never look anything close to Lee.
Best channel of REAL BB 4ever!
I was a little surprised to hear that Shawn is your favorite bb, he has good proportions but arms deficient and insertion of the triceps rather flat ...
9:55 slightly shake the phone
I saw the trick there
what
@@konstantindrumev8036 it's kinda like the background is moving but his body is still it's hard to explain... Make sure your phone is bright enough to see it
Oh shit
Very good all round information.👍👍👌👌✊✊
Kevin Levrone claims a 700lb bench press and 3 reps with 900lb squats. Maybe Arnold should incorporate a strength contest approaching the show.
Nice video man
just my kind of bbing channel, in depth and analytic... keep up the good work
Great vid. Great critiques. Much enjoyed.
Steve Reeves was the most handsome body builder ever. That to me is the greatest genetic gift a guy can inherit.
EXCELLENT...great commentary
Dexter also only trained 3 days a week for most of his career. Just thought I'd mention.
That's y he won 1mr O
@@griffithstifler5027 though your statement isn't false, wouldn't this make you more of a Mr O? Not sure that needed to be pointed out lol. At least my statement had an example that could be looked to.
Both of you are correct
Also how resilient you are to injury and ability to withstand (drugs) ware and teare are the most under rated imo. One could also argue a strong spirit is somewhat genetic. It's such a complex statement so ty for giving us ur definition.
My favourite bodybuilders:
Charles Clairemonte
Serge Nubret
Bob Paris
GOOD VIDEO TOMBER. LIKED IT MUCH.
Paul was half white fyi, explains the calves.
Ohhh mystery solved
whats this nonsense? Most black guys dont have calves (O_o)??? thats bs smh man oh man
jarvis thomas most guys i know with no calves are black.
jarvis thomas Nah it's no bs we tend to have high insertions and long tendons which is horrible for aesthetics but amazing for performance. Look at the track landscape, NBA, NFL, etc. Athletic black dudes with the best speed around and miniscule calves.
Dimitri Wega ye I have an Asian friend and one of my other white friends have the short calves and I have long calves and they can both run so much faster and jump higher
Couldnt agree with you more about Shaun Ray, his physique is damn near flawless
One thing about Yates: People always say that his exceptional conditioning and hard looks was only due to scientific dieting and training. What if he just had superior genetics in that regard? Paper thin skin, all those striations, etc. I think he had freaky genetics, maybe not aesthetic but he looked very "unique". That back was just out of this world... definitely best back and calves ever and his thighs were also super striated and aesthetic. It's not just about different body parts, it's just the whole appearance and Yates looked unique and freakish in very... hmm... exceptional way. Sure Ronnie was even bigger, rounder and was more "complete" but he didn't look as "freaky". I can't really explain it. Cheers... and keep up the good work!
If Sergio had the technology of even the 90s and 00s he would go down as the GOAT
Dexter Jackson : 5´5”, genetically gifted
Fernand Marcel Hahahaha he would be the first to disagree I bet. I know I would be pissed
Great video, can't wait to see the top 5
Lee has talked a lot on gear he used an never took anything until he was pro. Best genetics for growing muscle. His mother was a bodybuilder too.
Despite the fact that his mother was a bodybuilder, aquired characters are not passed on gens.
@Mario M. M. You’re correct, but the innate predisposition for being able to build muscle that is in her genes is what the OP was referencing here.
I enjoyed your video. Yes Shaun Ray looks great!
I agree with you about how black guys don't always have the best calves, Dillets Calves were pretty damn impressive for a black guy. I should know, always had problems growing mine and on top of that, most the black guys I see in the gym have pretty small/under developed calves. White guys will, 9 times out of ten, have better calves than black guys.
This is painfully true....even though still taboo and people don't want to hear it. My good buddy is a white dude. He's a good guy but lazy as shit and makes an appearance in the gym once every 5 months or so because we know the owner and he gets a free membership. When we play basketball all the black guys wear track pants and he wears XXL Nike shorts to show off his massive and impressive calves. Little do people know that this fool don't train calves at all.....He always had them big calves.
Very pleasing to listen to; it’s clear you love bodybuilding
When I heard genetics gifted first one come in my mind Phil Heath..
lol
8:43 You won me with that phrase lol.
Phil Heath is a genetically gifted teenage mutant ninja turtle
Good video tom keep it up
I remember when i first saw paul dillet when i was very young and that was the most terryfing thing i have ever witnessed
I agree 100% that they should remake the Mr.Olympia and put Kevin Levrone doing the twisting back trouble bicep. Nobody in bodybuilding history can hit that pose as beautiful as Kevin Levrone.
I'm calling it now, Ronnie Coleman as no. 1
Excellent video my dude
Arnold, Zane, serge nubret, oh wait, maybe those guys are on the aesthetic list.
yeah whoever put this list together obviously hasnt looked at anything before 1990 except for the odd popular black and white. Bill Pearly surely should be on the list. Nubret perhaps, definitely arnold, haney and Vince Taylor. to have Ray on there and not Labrada shows where the focus is. Also conspicuously absent is Phil Hernon and Matt Mendenhall - both genetic freaks.
@youngbuck0911 Arnold greatest chest of all time
I had a friend one week in the gym, he looks 10 times better than everyone that’s been in the gym for years. Once he smells the weight, his body get pumped up like crazy. He was genetically gifted.
I also had a friend who went from 83 kg to 101kg in 12 weeks. He started at about 13 percent body fat to begin with and after 12 weeks was sitting around 7-8 percent. His bench also went from 70kg to 150kg for 8 x 3 sets. Yep no lie, grew though 5 sizes of shirts in this time.
Im sure genetics is the reason they look so good lmao
Sus
A huge reason. Use gear n I bet you just get plump lmao
nice vid, enjoyed it.
Sergio Oliva,THE MYTH still Has the BEST GENETICS EVER !!!
Have you seen his arms
Two commercial breaks, four total commercials, and I am only six minutes in...
Sorry about that. YT sets those automatically. I don't touch the defaults.
2:50 that nose though
Cartoonish
You don't have to train abs directly to have visible abs. Pull ups, push ups, tricep pull down, squats, lunges, all indirectly work the abs. Pull ups and push ups probably indirectly work abs the most on the ones I mentioned.
Best genetics for symmetry with size on a frame I've ever seen was the little Egyptian Mohamed Makkawy who probably is lost in this conversation because of this small stature..........but at his peak he was the best I've seen genetically.
KEVIN LEVRONE WAS A BEAST
Dexter Jackson is one of my favorite bodybuilders except for CT Fletcher and Lee Haynes and Monster Kody, great bodybuilders.☉tribe
Bro your commentary while awesome and informative is hilarious
Victor Richards
TheGamerRadu Canal hell No
Victor should be included
One of the best of all time
Lee's Victory pose was attainable because his thick arms were so SHORT, while Sergio's arms were, technically, too LONG for bodybuilding, but SO THICK that it didn't matter.
In my opinion levrone should be much higher , he won his first show at the age of 21 i think all natural , he weighed at 208 pounds sliced , later he achieved naturally 245 pounds lean , and in 1993 after the injury trained for 2 months and placed top5 , just insane genetics for growth , once he had a food poisoning and was hardly eating and still gained 4 pounds of lean mass , just unreal .
He is unreal but wait for the top 5 then tell me who he should bump off
I will , also to mention his crazy strenght and athleticism that he had , its just unreal , from powerlifting , sprinting , jumping just unreal. Ronie C better be no1 , cuz he had the best package , even more than Philip Heath
Fitness and Gaming coleman? lol are you for real? Coleman started around the same time as levrone yet didnt come close to the top5 for years. Dont see how he is more genetically gifted than kevin. the only way he could become massive and by upping his drug use to the roof while throwing away his aesthetics and grow a pregnancy gut. kevin on the other hand became a mass monster while keeping aesthetic. Kevin was way more genetically gifted.
Ronie was at the beggining of his career natural , competed in his first mr o naturally , he told with no bs , he told us when he started taking the stuff to , and from the body completeness Ronie is on a bigger level than anyone we have ever seen
Tomn8er do not tell me phil heath is number 1.altho he should be in top 3 for sure ,just judging by your last shadow pic,im guessing hes gonna be first.i expect to see flex,ronnie,phil,big ramy(why not) and idk who else.
But like you said,being geneticly gifted can refer to a lot of things.flex imo should be at first spot(altho i might be bias cuz his 93 version is best ever if you ask me).but if the criteria is who has the least flaws,then yea, phil wins most likely.
It’d be interesting to have a Mr. Olympia show at twice yearly intervals, 6 months OFF, then 6 months ON steroids. The same competitors deciding overall title in the 2nd show ON steroids. That way we see the difference the gear makes and have a measure how much it contributes to their competitive edge.
9:10 you can literally see at the middle picture it says he is 21 not 17... and how the hell would you know how much gear any of them used...
He didn't say "how much", he simply said the probably used it, and the fact is the absolutely did.
If you suggest otherwise, it means two things. You are either one of them who uses, but never admits,
or your knowledge of bodybuilding is nonexistent.
Why do the "genetics discussion" always stop at the things discussed here? I mean, the thing Dorian said, his opponents were genetically superior but he out worked them, how is that not genetic? Being of a certain height of having some specific muscle insertion is just as much genetic as having world class discipline and ability to outwork someone.
"He has better genetics so you have to work harder" is so dumb, the ability to work hard is just as much a genetic feature as anything else. Some people are smarter, more driven, have a higher pain tolerance, more focus etc. That should be in the genetic discussion just as much as easily measurable physical features...
All bodybuilders are genetically gifted☺👍. That's my opinion.
This gave me a video idea..."top 10 powerlifting bodybuilders" probably not a bad title for the algorithm either 👍🤞🙏
That picture of Lavrone is not off cycle it's a more recent picture of him as he is now.
JF 15 I was gonna say that too. Also about 10-15 years later lol
I am glad I subscribed to your channel.Who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time!I want to see bodybuilding get huge again!I laugh because you do not need juice to be in competetion form.I will put some pictures of myself before next Arnold Classic,just to prove that these competetors are not that special and I am 50yrs old.Great pictures Tom!
Levrone thank you.
can't wait for the next part 😁
Eddie Hall could have excelled too genetically as a bodybuilder. He'd be an awesome fighter too as his neck looks like it's well over 20 inches but check out Beny Magnusson's diamond shaped calves
9:08 I know I’m late to the party but Lee actually didn’t start taking PHDs until the age of 18. And you can see that he was pretty light as well, mostly competing in the under 150lbs class (70kg). On stage footage shows his real size next to other competitors and he wasn’t as huge but his shape and conditioning was above anyone else.
Dude Shawn Rae was my favorite too. And didn't lift heavy
Great Commentary! I think you nail it,great athletes though👍
I had pleasure of bumping in Dexter Jackson in Beverly Hills , very nice guy. After a short talk n a brief observation of his proportions, i thanked him for showing me what role genetics play in bodybuilding n went home to sell all my dumbbells 😂
"isnt that problem many of us would like to have"
It would be if I didn't have to eat 4000 calories just to barely maintain weight and I'm not even 140 pounds
Exactly, I have the same problem, eating and training a ahit ton, still barely anything progresses other than conditioning, luckily I'm at 182lbs after 5 or so years
Easy fix, stop eating shitty, concentrate on eating complex carbs and protein. Eat in a surplus. Or, you can slow down your metabolism by slowly lowering your calories overtime, same thing as dieting. There are no excuses for this not working.
💯 im 33 and 140 lbs. Have to eat all day everyday n do absolutley nothing to gain 1 oz of weight
Kevin..Lee Priest..Lee Labrada..Bob Paris.Shawn Ray and Flex Wheeler..Legend !!!
Before I watched the video I thought for sure Paul Dillett would be number 1
Good one Mr
Finally, someone else considers Shawn Ray their favorite bodybuilder lol. He was the most complete competitor on stage.