(093) Beginners Guide to Curtained Lever Locks and Lever Lock Picking
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Lock Noob where can i buu these tools and what are their names
Nice video, very nicely detailed, but there is 1 doubt, how do you find the talon of the bolt of a curtain lever padlock with a tensioner ? I mean the mortise lock you've used has a prominent curtain that pretty much acts as a support to the bolt when the tensioner tool is turned, but in a normal curtain lever padlock, the curtain & bolt are separate, so how to recognize with the tensioner which is the bolt shoulder where the pressure needs to be applied ?
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Awesome vid!! I’ve got a simple question Noob. I saw that your tension tool to turn the cam was quite a bit shorter than what the original key provided. I see many tensioner made with them full length like the original key. Is it usually unnecessary to make them full length like the original key?
Nice tutorial.
LockPickingLawyer thank you :-) now I just need the skill to be able to pick it blind, lol
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The emperor have spoken!
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Well done, Lock Noob. That's the first time I've watched a lever lock picking video and thought 'got it!'.
That's very kind of you: I'm glad you got something from it :-) If I had more time, money and space, lever picking would be nice to branch off into
Cool video. As a locksmith in Boston, I don't run into lever locks too often, especially ones that are still in use. Great explanation of how they work and picking methods involved!
Thank you :-)
Nice tutorial! It's worth mentioning that due the shape of the levers, you can relock the lock by basically just trying to overlift all levers so you really don't need to really pick it to re-lock it without a key. Some other lever lock designs may have false gates for the other direction, too.
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Damn, never thought this kind of lock is so difficult to open!
rubbers3, well, the 2 lever non-Curtained ones are a lot more simple, but this is a relatively high security version of a Curtained Lever Lock :-)
Lock Noob I think he's being sarcy?
@@feetthong624 I think rubbers3 is confusing a warded lock which looks similar from the outside but is in fact much simper to open.
Excactly my thinking. I was thinking those 'old fashioned big key locks' provided little security. But seems, when done well, takes some serious tooling. After all, his were custom made.
More detailed than others ive seen, Thanks for the inside advice on how the mechanism of the lock works, brilliant.
Thanks 🙏
Very useful, thanks. I have often wondered how those types of lock work compared to pin and tumbler locks, now i know!
Thank you :-)
Being new to lock picking (as a hobby that is!!) This video is fantastic. Thank you so much for posting. You have explained and demonstrated in a perfect and easy way for me to understand. A very well done.
Thank you, I appreciate that :-)
My word, I JUST picked up locksport, and am only now waiting for my top of the keyway tensioners in the mail now. Yesterday I saw a scrap piece of wire clothes hanger and thought about hammering the end down, as Im an amateur blacksmith.
This video has given me a sign that I'm to blend my two skills.
The KiloWhiskyForge now has a direction, and a goal.
I've never seen or thought about how the lever locks work, very interesting and as always well presented. thanks heaps !
Thank you :-)
Thank you for this. I was studying lever locks in my locksmith studies and needed to see what everything was about.
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I'm a carpenter and can do the yale locks , but looking to learn how to pick a mortice just in case i need it, this opened my eyes very good guide
Richard Hunt thanks :-)
Thank you for such a clear and simple explanation of how lever locks work. Much appreciated. 👍 Looks like 144 lock manufacturers didn't like this video.
Glad to help
I love the old CHUBB Battleship range, one of my first ever levered picking challenges! I didn't know what to expect inside, so I had a hard time navigating the false gates. As an inexperienced lock manipulator, I didn't have a good working knowledge of the internal structure prior to picking. Thanks for sharing. 👍
They can be tough locks!
Hi Lock Noob, great intro to Lever lock picking. I am fascinated to how lever locks can be picked, as in the UK as I am sure you know, most doors seem to contain a lever lock as well as a pin tumbler. I really would like to see much more content on this subject.
How about a DIY curtain pick making tutorial? Those things are so damn expensive!!
I asked BosnianBill about these locks, explaining how common they are over in the UK, but he claimed to have never picked one!
Keep up the great work! All ready in love with this channel!
Mr Cessna thanks for watching :-) I'm still really new to lever locks, but I'm learning what I can with what I have. I might do something on lever wires, but only when I get more confident with the subject matter.
Great stuff, no rush, looking forward to any new lever lock content! Thank you😊
Pick a skeleton lock
Now that was a great video mate and will help lots of newbies out regarding mortice locks. Really enjoyed watching it. I have not had my mortice picks out for some time.
Thank you waddac2, means a lot :-)
You are more than welcome. Keep them coming ;o))))
Thanks for the video! That was my first look at lever lock and it was very interesting! I am a lock noob like yourself and really like anything new. Unfortunately I watched.the Chubb vid first. This cleared it up nicely thank you again. I will look forward to more.
James Murphy thanks for watching :-)
These locks are on lots of doors, especially "storm" doors in the UK as I'm sure you're are aware of. Good to see someone actually showing how they work and how to pick the curtain ones. Most don't have that feature so I'm guessing that just a skeleton key would open most?
Cheers mate, really enjoyed that 🙂👍
This has got to be the single best lever lock picking explanation out there. Great job, learnt a lot in 13 mins! :)
Thanks dude, that's nice if you to say :-) thanks for watching :-)
Awesome video - very interesting stuff perfectly explained and demonstrated. I was fascinated throughout the whole video. Great job in presenting this - thank you. Looking forward for more lever-videos like this :-)
Thank Potti314 :-) I enjoyed making this video. As an when I have the money, I'll buy myself some more lever lock picking equipment as it's really good fun
Maybe it's simply a matter of familiarity and exposure level, but I find curtained lever much more challenging than pin tumblers. The ones with only single gates are easy enough, but the ones with many levers, complete with serrated notches and false gates can be a nightmare. Being in the states, these are sadly an extraordinarily rare find.
I'd love to hear from someone (if such a soul exists) who works almost exclusively with these, and rarely pin stacks, if they find good lever locks more or less challenging than a decent pin tumbler lock, say a Schlage with uncooperative pinning.
Great video, love these style locks.
Go check out Andy Mac’s channel, he picks lever locks almost exclusively :-)
Brilliant tutorial. It's really cool to see you progress with lockpicking. Always spurs me on to get back into picking.
Happy picking :-)
Had a chubb 6 lever lock off an old black A & B public telephone, very nicely machined with tight tolerance fences & gate and false notches. Even with the lock case open in front of me, was impossible to pick. This was a safe lock used on the money compartment. would like to see how u pick a chubb safe lock. Awesome video:-)
Those locks can be tough!
When he said 'introduce you to the key' did anyone else go "HELLO KEY!" ?
the best video on picking in TH-cam
It's called mortise lock because it mimics a mortise and tenon join. The door with the bolt projecting becomes the tenon, locking into the recess of the mortise in the frame
Indeed :-)
best explanation .found everything needed for a fresher
Thanks :-)
Nice the only thing you didn't mention is mirror image key because it works from both sides of the lock.
This is a lock of a safe.
@@LucidPreditor no just a normal house door lock here in the uk
Useful video, my lock is currently refusing to let me in using the key and trying to figure out how to make it turn before I escalate to destruction.
Nice vid dude, don't see enough vids about lever locks . Shame the Chris belcher tool is so bloody expensive - otherwise I'd already own one! The uncurtained picks are about 20-40 on UK bumpkeys but the curtained version is 200!
I know. The price of entry is stopping me from taking up lever lock picking more. One day maybe :-)
Great explanation of lever locks and picking. Thanks!
Thank you :-)
Always been curious how lever locks work, since there are not a lot of "gutting a lever lock" videos around.
Please watch my playlist on Lever Locks - you won't regret it!
After spending 1-hour trying to free a jammed lever lock on my front door I finally got it open. This video gave me the confidence to remove it, in the hopes that it would be in need of cleaning and I would be able to get it more reliable. I did get a shock when I opened my lock and found it had 7 Levers! I was able to dismantle it, carefully numbering the parts, clean it and reassemble it. My one concern is that with the door open if I close the lock I can push the bolt back into the lock. Obviously this isn't possible if the door is in the closed position and I lock the door but I wonder if this is a feature or if there is still something wrong. If I turn the key slightly more than 360° and then back a little bit and remove the key it is then not possible to push the boat back into place and I welcome any comments on this.
Is it one of those locks where you have to rotate the key twice to get it to fully lock?
Cool video. Nice to see this type of thing covered. Good job.
Thank you :-)
you done really well mate I've never done that before
Jackcc5, thanks for watching :-)
Enjoyed this a lot and will now check the new ones you suggest. Thanks
Question: if you are tensioning the bolt from the rear, what would you do if picking from the other side? You'd have to tension from the front and there'd be no room to slip the pick wire, no?
You are tensioning on the curtain, so it works fine :-)
Thank you for this video Lock Noob, I really love all your guides, they are always clear and easy to understand. Did you make this clear lock cover yourself?
Thank you :-) the lock cover and lock were from the very good Walkers Locksmiths site :-)
Lock Noob
Thanks, I have seen these on WL, I thought they were a little expensive for a bit of perspex or something.
Hobby Picker: please just double and triple check what you are buying, the perspex covers are sold separate to the lock a lot of the time and are expensive. The lock and cover when sold together is about £25-35. If it looks like a bargain, check what you are buying as the descriptions are often vague
Lock Noob
Thanks, that is a good tip, I have often found that the pictures in WL tool catalogue can be misleading, you really must check the description.
Good introductory video for us beginners. Thank you.
You are welcome!
Quote of the day, "Locks are for Honest Men". (And your Insurance installments).
Lol
That was really interesting and very well explained, thanks
Thank you :-)
Just wondering how you would apply the tension when the lock is fitted on the right hand side instead of the left. The deadbolt cam is obviously in front & not at the back which means you need to get through the tensioner to get to the levers
The low belley on number 4, stops you from getting to number 5 with the pick, as it rests on the curtain. It isnt a zero lift like a pin tumbler.
It's the only way my pin-picking head could explain it as. I think it acts in the same way as a zero lift as they would normally be put in to 'protect' shorter pins behind it. This 'zero lift' lever does a similar job here and really does make it much harder (but not impossible) to slip by. I'm certainly a very long way from being an expert on lever locks though :-)
Make the pick wire thinner, and practice getting under and around lever 4 to get to 5. instead of starting at 5, and working forward. The binding order seldom works in your favour, as it did in the video.
Good advice :-) and yes, I was mega lucky with the binding order. At some point I'll practice it blind
Looking at the video again. One thing I find too when using the perspex cover, it sometimes compresses the levers making them act differently then when the normal steel cover is in.(making them bind differently). Keep up the good work.
Yes, I had to squirt in a bit of 3 in 1 and loosen the screws to stop them being so sticky. They were still not quite moving independently as you saw
I am going to attempt to make a cut down key like yours myself can yoi advise how i might do so? Beautiful work also.
Thanks. Very well demonstrated
Thank you! 😀
Brilliant video, it is explained very well
Thanks 🙏
Noob? Trades descriptions Act :-) Crystal clear, many thanks.
Are lever locks the 'poor cousing' in lock picking?
Impressed with the tools!
Not so much poor cousin, just a whole different skill set and one that often needs you to make bespoke tools - it puts people off I think :-)
So if you are locked out of your house, because you lost your keys, how do you improvise those tools, especially the cut down key/tension tool? Not like you are likely to even have a coathanger lying around handy either, let alone a hammer to make it the right size? Probably still need a locksmith, or somebody with a lot of tools, which during Covid lockdown could be tricky.
I think I heard you say you can buy a tension tool that fits in multiple locks..any pointers for one available to the U.S. please? Excellent vid BTW! True has more room than a false. Good pointer.
No idea for the US, sorry. The U.K. sell most of the curtain picks I think :-)
Hi, when I put a tension tool and pick the curtain, it only turns a 3rd. It doesn't turn any further. Any ideas?
thank you. Id always wondered about these types of locks. :) fantastic
i had a few old chubb 6 pin lever locks of the money compartment of old public telephones. Even with the cover removed and the lock fully exposed in front of me, with all the false notches and beautifully engineered Chubb lock, I was unable to pick any of them, so, if you want security, Chubb are the best.
They make really great locks, or at least they did :-)
What would you say the best universal lever / curtain lever lock pick out there is ?
I really like the demo and info, but I am a bit worried that the wrong kind of people would be getting a well explained tuitorial on picking locks. I've got two six lever locks on the back door by the way.
The chances of a criminal picking a lock are almost zero for many reasons, but the main one being that it’s not in any way quick even if you are good and there are frankly a tonne of easier, faster ways into a property, which I clearly won’t mention here. Have a go at this wonderful hobby yourself and you’ll see what I mean :-)
I’m trying to cut a key for a Yale 2 lever sashlock but can’t get it right. I can successfully cut the bit to length and width but can’t get the next stage correct. Is there a specific sequence to cutting the key to fit the levers?
What do you call the ones with a side ways key hole ==O like this.
I have an old storage cupboard, I can't figure out how to open it?
No need for this knowledge but it is really cool knowledge. Thanks.
Thanks :-)
Was this a Era vicount?? have you picked it blind yet? i may need to make tensioner out of keys and get more of these open.
I think it might be:-) and no, I've not tried picking it blind yet... I'm just not that good with levers
These locks are very common in the UK especially older doors though nowadays modern PVC doors use Euro locks ( Chubb etc )
Absolutely :-)
You’ve explained that really well, if only they all had clear fronts
With only a little work and some Perspex, you can do this yourself. Vid coming soon :-)
Lock Noob I remember a post on UKLS on someone (you?) cutting the front recently. It cracked at the last touch🥴
Susan Cox that’s certainly happened to me. Just did it again :-)
Great video but how do you know when you are in a false gate or a true gate ?
Well quite, and there is the experience. Usually it's a little guess work and feeling how much play there is in the gate, with true gates often feeling wider. It's really an art
How do you get hold of the cut down keys? I've looked on a quick google search, and couldn't find any. There's only try out keys, which don't seem useful to me.
It’s actually easier than the name might suggest. You literally take a key for the lock or a blank for the lock and grind it down to make a tensioner :-)
I have the wires and tensioners from uklp, but my pick wire keeps getting stuck under/against the levers and I can't pick some of them without giving up too much tension to move on to the next one. One of my wires is ground away at the bend from grinding against one lever to get to the next. Any advice?
The only tip is to learn to make your own lever wires. Very easy to do and you can file and sandpaper them to your liking. You can experiment with 1.4 to 1.6 mm music wire to see what you prefer :-)
Excellent and informative video.
Subscribed.
Thanks 😊
Bravo,bravo 👏👍👍
Wounderful video,thanks for taking the time to make it😘😘🍻😎😎😎
Thank you Pick Beard :-)
Lock Noob no Thank You sir 👍👍😘😎😎😎
Very nice video 👍 to learn how it works 👍🔓👏💯✅
Thx to you Master!!!
very interesting thank very much, where did you get the practice lock from,nice videos
Thanks :-) the lock came from Walkers Locksmiths in the uk :-)
Great video, fantastic explanation! Thanks for sharing. 👍👍
Thank you :-)
ok got my lock /plastic new front making the tools like yours (i hope ) lol great vid thanks keep the good work up ,,
Thanks and good luck :-)
Good video. Alot harder 2 pick id say when u cant see what ur doing!
Only about 100 times harder...
Cool lock, cooler picker.
Thank you 😊
Hi There,
I was wondering if you sale these coat hanger picks that you made? Thanks
No, I don’t sell tools, but you should have a go yourself; it’s quite easy :-)
Ok love the dub step intro sounds
that a British lock? never seen one of those. hella cool vid. thanks for expanding my knowledge
I don't think exclusively British, but really common here :-) thanks for watching :-)
How you open door lock
What holds the levers in place when youve pushed them up?
The bolt stump
@@LockNoob what is the clicking sound?
I suspect you were lucky that lever 4/5 wasn't quite set, and therefore you didn't fall into the false gate on lever 1.
Most probably!
I'm locked out of my cupboard. Miffed as hell on lock down.
😕
Very interesting pick, thanks for vid
The Madhatter thank you :-)
Can you pick it from LOCKED ->OPEN though ?
Actually, that’s the far easier option as you don’t have false gates to contend with
Nice one very interesting , thanks!
Thanks for watching 😀
Nice tool 👍
Thanks :-)
That is a clever lock though.
It is :-)
Great tutorial buddy
Glad you liked it
Hey nice video thanks for making it. Do you or any viewers here know where to purchase lever picks and tools? I live in the US and Ive searched the Internet with no success. Any help is appreciated. Thank you
JoeGBoxing, I don't know about the US, but I use these guys: www.walkerlocksmiths.co.uk
Lock Noob thank you so much for the quick response. WhAt tools are needed as the basics for getting into lever picking? Curtained picks seem pretty expensive. What type of tension tool is needed for lever picking?
JoeGBoxing, well, for non Curtained Lever locks, you can use music wire to make tensioners and some pick wires - for curtain lever locks, you can do what I did and file down a key. The problem is, is that nearly every lever lock needs its own tensioner and pick wire... it's all a bit of a dark art and the limited number of lever pick tools sold means their price remains high. I, myself would do more Lever Lock Picking if I had the time to craft the tools or the money to buy some of the commercial sets. Good luck and happy Picking :-)
Lock Noob thank you very much for the information i really appreciate it. I find lever locks such a cool type of lock and the picking seems fun and interesting as well.
JoeGBoxing, it is fun and you should give picking them a go. Mad Bob has a lever padlock picking set on his site which you might find interesting. I have not tried it though so I can't currently recommend. I have a coup,e of lever lock picking videos coming up where I don't use much specialist equipment, so keep watching :-)
couldnt pick my lock, so i jammed a screwdriver up in there and it worked...
Really? Can you axplian further?
Ugh. I need to get into my shed. I have no tools!!!
Educational
Thank you :-)
yes very interesting video, good one L.N.
Thank you :-)
Awesome, thank you.
Thank you :-)
Great video
Thanks :-)
how can you make these tools?
please help
Time to get back my console
Do what LN likes, and watch his old videos.
Nooooooo!!!!
I'm kinda lost as to what to get for these types of locks, what tools does anyone suggest? (Must include tensioner and wire, duh)
They Andy Mac Lock Tools - he has a TH-cam channel too
Very cool
Now pick it from the other side
John Young I Honesty can't pick this 'blind' yet. One day though! :-)
This is a hard one...
My key broke im in my toilet watching this video trying to brake this lock
Saved thank you
Very interesting!:)
Thanks :-)
Awesome video...😍
Thank you :-)