The TOP 3 Affordable Lenses for Milky Way Photography
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2024
- 10mm: Rokinon 10mm f/2.8: amzn.to/2OrD8Y0
24mm: Canon EF-S 24mm f/2.8: amzn.to/2KNIR89
50mm: Canon EF 50mm f/1.8: amzn.to/2M8BvBI
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If you are on a crop sensor, as you appear to be based on an EF-S lens, you must multiply the focal length by 1.6 (for Canon APS-C). This gives the equivalent on a 10mm EF-S lens of a 16mm lens to the 35mm full frame standard on which the 600 or 500 second rule is based. So 500/16=31.25 seconds. Cheers, Jay
When someone taught me this before I got a star tracker it helped considerably since everything I took before that had heavy star-streaking.
Course now I have a Star Adventurer Mini so long exposures all night are easy now so long as my polar alignment is ok
i never expected this review but am happy that y'all made it. Thank you.
We actually started this video one year ago, but the files got lost in our old computer, we randomly were able to find them again and decided to finally finish it!
Would also add the Rokinon 2.8 14mm, especially if you are on a budget.
* If you have a crop sensor camera like my D5100's APS-C, multiply your focal length by 1.6 before figuring out your max exposure time. That small sensor acts like a form of zoom, so a 10mm lens acts more like a 16mm lens; I've seen the Rule of 700 to 400 depending on tolerances, so there's wiggle room.
After going through their tools list I see their camera is an ASP-C sensor as well. They don't list exposure times for the other shots, but you can see a little trailing on their 10mm shot.
Still pretty, and still a great video, thanks guys!
For D5100 crop faktor is 1.5 not 1.6!
1.6 is an Canon.
Awesome walkthrough and review on 3 affordable lenses for the Milky Way. Good useful information. Much Thanks for keeping it more real, your personalities shined in delivery.
Thank you very much John!
A budget video! Awesome! That’s my mission. There’s a serious lack of this kind of information on TH-cam. I totally concentrate on budget simply to encourage more folks to get out and try. Stitching those 24’s are my favorite. I used the Rokinon 14 for a long time, and it’s great, but it lacks the detail a 24 can get. At the same price one could get lucky and find the old, discontinued, Canon EF 24mm F2.8. It blows the Pancake out. I loved the bloopers you included. Very human video. Cheers. Clear skies.
Thanks Garnett, you always have such constructive and nice comments! We haven't tried the Rokinon 14, but it must be nice as well! We'd love to try a 15mm lens in the future, but not sure it will be worth it since we already have a 10 and a 24. Clear Skies!
Good Video. You forgot about multiplying the lense focal length by 1.5 nikon or 1.6 for canon if not using a full frame camera. then divide that by 500.
Divide by 500 for what? can you please elaborate
@@milangurung4349 The stars are moving all the time. They are also relatively dim so we need a long exposure of multiple seconds. If the exposure is too long then the stars will have moved enough to appear as lines in the photo. We call these star trails. We don't generally want star-trails unless you actually want to demonstrate the movement of the stars.
We can increase the ISO settings (make the camera sensor more sensitive) but this will make the image appear grainy. Some cameras are better than others in this area.
As for the lens. Think of the focal length in terms of magnification. A 200mm lens (telephoto) will make the stars appear much closer but it also amplifies their movement. A 20mm lens would be closer to what we see (not exact) and we do not usually see movement in the stars (unless you stare really hard)
So, to avoid star-trails we use short exposures for long focal length lenses and longer exposures for short focal length lenses.
Someone came up with a ballpark means of calculating the maximum exposure that avoids star-trails.
Divide 500 by the focal length of your lens and the result is your maximum exposure in seconds.
So, for a 200 mm telephoto, it's 500/200 giving just 2.5 seconds.
For a 40 mm lens, it's 500/40 giving 12.5 seconds.
As ghost70 pointed out, this also depends on the type of camera.
You could also get yourself a star-tracker that turns the camera with the stars so you are no longer limited.
24mm crop camera is 13”
@@milangurung4349 A full frame camera - 500/24mm focal length = 20.83 seconds max. Same lens on a Nikon crop (1.5) - 500/36mm = 13.88sec max. Canon crop (1.6) 500/38.4mm = 13.02sec max.
Philip Jones very well explained. You’re spot on.
You Two guys are honestly so lucky to be doing this! And more importantly you both have the same interest! I love your videos and you deserve a lot more! I love how you pit those narating voices, it really makes the video more interesting in a way! Keep up the good work!
Thank you for this very kind comment!
Galactic Hunter no problem!
A useful introduction. I use a Samyang 14mm f/2.8 lens which is another alternative. The fast ISO speeds of modern DSLRs are also useful for grabbing as much starlight as you can before the Earth turns!
Thanks for the info, Only just Started taking photos of the night sky, Really enjoying it. I liked and subscribed 👍
Great video! I was exactly looking for an affordable lens for astrophotography but could find one that compared them side by side. Thank you so much!
PS: You make a very nice couple, it creates a relaxed environment.
Excelent! Answered my question!
Nice video guys. Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much! I decided to buy the 10mm and it is super great!
Rewatching this as I'm looking at upgrading, but I'd also add in that the 11-16mm Tokina is pretty affordable now and gets really good results from what I've seen. Would love to see you guys do an updated list for 2020!
Thanks for the info .. I love the 50mm .. Good info 🙌🏻
cool! this was really helpful thanks!
Thanks for this, now i know the 24mm f2.8 lens i just bought it can do well with astrophotography.
Mine will be here tomorrow 😂! Black Friday sale from Amazon $169.
Great video!! thanks for your little "review" 📹😍
Thanks Vivi :)
Thanks for such a good video, helped me decide which lens to buy according to me...
I'll probably go for the canon 24mm F/2.8 because it's a good enough Wide angle lens and to take normal everyday pictures too
Yes Chirag! We often use the 24mm one for regular, day time photography and also use it when filming our Episodes :)
Very good video. Simple and direct, good for beginners and amateurs. Keep it up :D
Thank you!
I just bought the Canon 24mm pancake lens. Good video
Brilliant video, convinced me of the 50mm. I liked this very much.
Great video! Would be nice to see how you process these milky ways photos 👨🚀☄📸
Thanks! We're thinking of making a tutorial for Milky Way processing using PixInsight
Great video you two, always great to see them... how do you feel the Rokinon 10mm performs at F2.8, would it be better taking it up a stop or two.. basically are the stars sharp at the edges of the picture like the centre..]
Thank you! We always leave the Rokinon at F2.8, we actually don't see any problem around the edges, unlike the 50mm (the 24 a little bit as well). The stars are really sharp even wide open!
Are the pictures from the Canon 50mm f1.8 stacked or one single shot?
Single shots, although I believe the one with Rho Ophiuchi was a few minutes stacked.
Is there a video showing how to stack? Or mosaic whatever you said with the first 50mm f1.8
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Merci beaucoup ! La vidéo en Français arrive dès demain :)
Galactic Hunter merci cool 😉
As I'm learning photography I'm curious as to how you focused the 24mm lens? TIA
what a dope video, interesting lenses
thanks for sharing this with us, really enjoyed watching this
Awesome video! Would i be able to get these results on my EOS M100? Any help would be amazing! Keep up the good work and love your vids
Going to the Northern California Star party end of June . Thought I’d check in and see what you recommend for my canon t6i. I bought the 50 awhile back so doing a mosaic would be fun but I will buy the 24 and use it most. I have a Stellarvue 102 apo , spacecat and C8 . Three nights and what to bring. It’s galaxy season and the rise of the galactic core late night . It was tough to decide but thought best to bring the C8 , w/ focal reducer, and image the whirlpool , pinwheel and trifid nebula. As the night gets late I’ll have the canon piggy backed to the C8 to get the Milky Way . All on a eq6r. I’m lucky to live 2 hours from modoc county were the star party is . I’ll plan for great weather . Always enjoy your videos.
Hi thanks for the video. Very clear and right to the point. I just want to ask about the focusing. Is there an issue when focusing during complete darkness? Any tips? Would appreciate if you can show to you do the focusing. Thanks
Hey Jay, focusing is very easy, we plan to make a video about it this Summer but in short, just point your DSLR camera at a bright star and, using Liveview, manually focus until the star looks as small as possible :)
You should take a look at the NPF-Rule, it's the mathmatical better way to calculate the maximum shutter. It factors in the sensor and it's resolution aswell.
can wait to try i got the 50mm and 90d canon ... i put 60 seconds time ? thanks you
I hope i can get my wonderful wife to do AP with me one day like this. She is all for me doing AP if i don't spend to much. But she has no interest herself. You two seem like good people. I would love to get together and do some AP shoots if you ever come to SW FL. Thankyou for the great info and awesome pictures.
Crop sensor camera or full frame ?
I need a prime lens both for Astro and landscapes..
Rokinon 16 f 2 for my aps-c body can fit filters too and also has a faster aperture..
Any thoughts ?
We haven't tried that one but 16 f2 seems good for both astro and landscapes.
Would the Rokinon give good details?
Which lens is best for Nikon z6
Hi, if i have a very decent budget and just a starter needing to go in for night sky photography also a wide angle lens which one do you suggest for buying please guide.
Wide lens I would go with amzn.to/2OrD8Y0 which is 10mm and f/2.8 so pretty fast!
Guys thnx a lot. I was looking for answers about 24mm lens how it will act exactly in the dark. I’m practicing with aurora most. I needed budget lens and good lens as for beginner. So thnx u are awesome 👏🏻 I found my answer.
Thanks Natalie! The pancake lens is awesome! We hope to be able to photograph aurora in the future :)
looking for a good lens for my t7i for astrophotography...now I know thanks!
hellothisis4u have you found one ? I have the same camera.
@@luis17lou canon ef 50mm f/1.8 or ef 24mm f/2.8 you wanna look for a lens that has low aperture to let in a lot of light into the camera in the darkness
Tokina 11-16 or 11-20
Hi. Thanks for the great video.
Would you recommend the Canon 24mm or the 50mm for my apsc to photograph the milky way?
Thanks :) Start with the 24mm so you can get much more of the Milky Way!
@@GalacticHunter thanks for you're reply!
I have tried with my tamron 18-200mm f3.5-6.3 di ii vc with out much success.
I was thinking of buying the 24mm or the 50mm. So I will definitely go for the 24mm!!!
I will also give it a go wit my Canon 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM
@@robertpiraor1 The 24mm listed in the description ( amzn.to/2KNIR89 ) is f/2.8 so it will definitely help, the lower the f/number the better for night sky imaging :)
@@GalacticHunter thanks again. On my way now!!!
Which camera do you use??
Canon 7D mark ii
Still new to this- what are the best settings on the 24mm to use? How long of an exposure and what ISO and aperture? Thanks in advance!
For the Milky Way I would suggest an ISO between 800 and 1600 (depends on a few factors, if it's super hot outside for example I wouldn't go too high or you'll have lots of noise), exposure time around 20 seconds (there are several ways to calculate this in order to not have elongated stars) and aperture at f/4. You can go wide open if you want but you might have coma on the edges. F/4 is safe.
Galactic Hunter thanks!! Will I need a star tracker to do this or not?
@@ltdtoo5 No, just make sure you escape light pollution :)
I have a sigma 17-50mm, you recommend it for astrophotography?
Hi Jazmiin, is that the f/2.8 one? If yes, it should work great with the Milky Way, and even for some deep sky objects if you use a tracker :)
@@GalacticHunter yes is a 2.8, and thanks for responding 🤗
how to focus at infinity in the dark? what aperture and iso to use? :P
Haha! Not easy. If you don't have live-view then give your eyes time to adjust to the darkness. Your camera will need to be steady so mount it on a tripod and point it at the brightest star you can find.
Wind the focus ring beyond infinity and turn it back slowly until the star appears as a dot. This is not easy. Take a photo to check, remembering that the long exposure makes the camera very sensitive to movement. Use shutter delay or a cable.
If you have live-view then, as before, point the camera at the brightest star and enlarge the image in live-view to focus.
Focusing is very fine and the image may not even appear until it is quite close to correctly focused. i.e. expect to see nothing until its nearly in focus.
The infinity marking on your lens is not infinity. Sucks I know, but the focus graduations are approximate on even expensive lenses. The focal point can change with temperature so the graduations can only ever be approximate.
You want the aperture as wide as possible. There is a caveat here though: vignetting (darker edges on your photo). You may have to stop down slightly to reduce it.
ISO: There is a trade-off here as well. The higher the ISO, the more grain and this can look bad when you have large areas of blackness. It can be reduced in post-processing. I start at ISO 800 because the next setting is 1600 and that gives unacceptable grain.
Be prepared to spend a couple of hours experimenting to find the settings that work for you. Good luck.
R U using a full frame camera? Btw, Dahlia looks like the female singer from Pentatonix. Keep up the great videos.
We are using a crop sensor camera (7D Mark II). This is something we should have mentioned!
Thank you@@GalacticHunterfor your reply. I have been an amateur astronomer for over 30 years and have many telescopes, but I have never done astrophotography. But after watching your videos I'm ready to take the plunge. Keep up the great work.
does anyone know if this lens fits canon 1300D???
would a Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G work for the milky way?
yes! Just make sure you frame it right since it's not super wide :)
Helo,what about sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6 lens,it is good?
It's not too bad but it's always better to have a lower f/number, f4.5 wide open is a bit slow but not terrible.
I would add the Samyang 21mm F1.4 Lens to that list. used at F2.4, the images are super sharp.. I Use this lens with a Sony A7iii .High quality results..
We've always wanted to try that lens! And it is quite affordable as well.
@@GalacticHunter You will to be disappointed.
Can these be mounted on cannon 4000d
Yes
you guys looked into the sigma art lenses? that 20mm is so good
"Affordable..."
@@geonerd Uh they are compared to Canon L lenses
The canon 50 f 1.8 is well corrected for astrophotography since f 5 with very good results. The focusing is not precise. Greetings
Settings ?
In Nevada?
Yep!
@@GalacticHunter northern part? Im in vegas
@@simonhaydock1762 We live in Vegas as well, not far from Henderson, we're members of the Las Vegas Astronomical Society :)
@@GalacticHunter thats awesome. Henderson here too. Is that the club that goes out to the park by bonnie springs with all the telescopes?
@@simonhaydock1762 They go to different places during the year, sometimes Red Rock, sometimes Mount Charleston, sometimes St George, etc etc. They have free meetings every Thursday night at CSN if interested :)
Great vidio
I'm pretty sure it's the 500 rule yet you said 600 first.
Both the 600 and the 500 rule are correct. We do one or the other depending on the lens we use and what we want to achieve. We'll do the 500 rule if we want to sacrifice a little bit of exposure time to make sure our stars are 100% pinpoint. With a wide lens, the 600 rule is often fine.
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Came here because of the title "Top 3 lenses for Milky Way photography". Left with a dislike at 0:59 after being mislead into "Top 3 *affordable* lenses". Not the same thing at all.
Good point. Edited title.
@@GalacticHunter Removed dislike. :-)