Volkswagen Electric Car Battery Recycling Plant
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- Volkswagen Group Components opened the Group’s first plant for recycling electric car batteries in Salzgitter. As pilot operation commences, the Volkswagen Group takes another committed step towards sustainable end-to-end responsibility for the entire value chain of the electric vehicle battery. The aim is the industrialised recovery of valuable raw materials such as lithium, nickel, manganese and cobalt in a closed loop together with aluminium, copper and plastics, achieving a recycling rate of more than 90% over the long term.
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Pretty cool
Surprised to see you watching and commenting... looks like quarantine has made our lives boring and meaningless
@JerryRigEverything would be nice if you could make a video at a place like this, for example, Redwood Materials.
Hey
But do the batteries scratch at level 6 with deeper groves at level 7
തലൈവരെ നീങ്കള 🤠
Perfect video for people who are always saying that batteries are toxic garbage which can't be reused.
Ya this looks far easier and efficient than squishing a car and throwing it into a melter.
@@1148bucknasty But you cant just squash an ICE car you have to remove all the fluids first and then strip out the plastics and copper
Seems a ridiculously cumbersome process. Why shred the module when you could dismantle and just shred the pouches?
My guess is time and possible injuries should a pouch still have some charge. Dunno
because then the material can be used in various new modules, and not just limited to exactly same vehicle.
Possibly because the standards have changed and are now using different configurations/shapes for the modules...
They know what they are doing better than anyone else😜
This process breaks down the material inside to make more efficient batteries saving tons of money in the process and less mining.
Prototype plant which is obviously not optimised yet. Good to see they're looking at the end to end life of the product. Thanks!
Hope all the Electric upcoming vehicle companies will get it touch with these recycle companies. Let there be a governing body to access all the discarded EV's and take into account for recycling.
@@mitto20 How about no government intervention for once?
@@kanalvoll5416 Do you live in a country where government is governed on you?
They will NEVER really recycle 100% of any EV battery. Eventually they will just dump that in some third world countries when no one sees it. It is just TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO expensive to recycle even 1 battery.
@@trumplostlol3007 I don't think so, technology evolves, as well as battery recycling methods
Uncle Rich would only need his kitchen knife to do all these steps 😂
Bare hands suffice
"You put the old batteries in the crusher right?"
"uhhh, sure"
This is the most spectacularly dull video of something that you’d expect to be really engaging.
It is probably way slowed down for the sake of the video.
@@slamdvw They video shows people dismantling a battery and speaking to each other not a machine. Did you watch it?
Yeh I agree, it would have benefited from a voice over or even a presenter on site
@@carlyleroad of course I did... kind of reminded me of a "how it's made" video...
BATTERY SLAUGHTER HOUSE !
Yes... we shred it and separate it. But now comes the extremely toxic part of processing. Where is the rest of the video? :D
I'm interested to know where these batteries are from and why they do not have enough life left for second-life uses like home energy storage applications? Only as a last resort should they be totally ground up for recycling like this as it's still very energy-intensive. I would expect a battery to last 15-20 years before totally recycling needed like this.
They have to test and validate the recycling methods. This was probably a battery pack off of a pre-production vehicle that was sent for scrapping.
Could be from a prototype EV with 62 kWh battery.
@@Foersom_ the display says 48kwh and 50% soc.
Seems more like a test lab then a actual functioning recycling plant.
Edit: it is a 'pilot plant' stated at the end of the video.
copy paste it a bunch of times and you get a plant.
Cool, I want a video of the black powder separation
Agbogbloshie.
By plant, I mean a place of maximum effectiveness. Here, however, I only watched boys playing.
yes it is just a pilot project testing plant....
Yes, you don't want to see a production facility. Robots are being developed to work-in and monitor those. :)
@@tzarcoal1018 It's normal germans "work"
Nothing like the battery recycling in Asia.
At the speed they're going they might have to "off load" so recycling to Asia
why use a lift to move it to a table and just move it by hand to another table 1 foot away 🤦🏾♂️
That annoyed me to no end too.I thought they were heavier than they look at first
germans xD the same who built the TSI engines
@@creamwobbly I used to work in a machine shop, cnc's lathes, presses etc. but it was for motorcycles. This is more for mass production so the process is different. I see your point, it just looked funny to go trough the trouble to latch it to the chain only to move it 3 feet. I feel like it would be more efficient to have a roller bridge leading to the next station. But obviously this process is still being developed.
This should be the way to go. I was worried what would be the condition of the world with all the battery junks accumulating everywhere once e vehicles get popular. Likewise I believe that for every product there should be recycle system and procedure in place before actual production and marketing is commenced. It is utter shame on govts to overlook this matter and act smart with mere production of myriad products!
This is the most important video that directly answers the question of increased battery waste we'll encounter into our future as the years progress and the need for efficient recycling. This showed the process beginning to end, Thank you! 🙏🏾 🌎 ♻️ ♥️
This process is working for quite some time already, with recycling plants regaining 80-95% of the materials. Thinking that battery waste is a problem has more to do with successful anty-lobbying propaganda.
@@gelisob Well that is also misinformation. The reason people see battery waste as an issue is that the process you just saw is extremely expensive and cannot even come close to making money.
So there are currently hundreds of thousands of EV batteries just sitting in containers that are not being recycled. Because countries cannot afford it.
@@VestigialHead are you kidding me? Where are those hundreds of thousands of EV batteries just sitting and not getting sold with a good price for stationary storage? Who is hating money like that? :D
Extremely expensive? Making a car factory is also extremely expensive. If you approach it from that angle, no car factory would be made. I don't know why you claim it being "extremely" expensive, given how many new and simpler methods have been surfacing already, but even if it were, things like this make money in volume.
Now if they would just find those secret containers with hundreds of thousands EV batteries...
@@gelisob The pile I was talking about is in the UK. Thousands of containers holding hundred of thousands of old batteries. Most are batteries that were in EV's that have had an accident. Due to the dangerous nature of Lithium Ion batteries even the slightest scratch on the battery compartment means that cars are being written off. So the batteries cannot be legally used for any other purpose. The only option would be recycling. Which certainly can be done. But as I said this recycling is extremely expensive so very few countries are going to fund it.
@@VestigialHeadshow me where, there isnt even 100,000s batteries in circulation now, let alone old ones.
Should be used for home storage and a lower price point so all solar user's can afford a storage battery / This process only needed after home storage has depleted them
Naturally. This is just a pilot system that should show how it should work in the future. :)
@@alexanderhausladen5737 i hope so! otherwise this would add another waste product.
its bad enough most people buy new instead of repairing, or just throw away instead of selling
In some cases, the battery modules can't be reused, and must be recycled.
@@panzerveps correct. There’s a great video from James & Kate showing heat damage on a Leaf module which clearly can’t be reused.
Agreed, second life is often neglected in the environmental argument for batteries.
Mineworx is a few years ahead on the battery and ewaste front. VW doesnt miss a beat! Good to see!
Renault started battery recycling in 2015 together with Veolia.
VW ag is really on a roll whit EVs they’re going to be the best I think
With that shit from the Diesel Scandal - they better do so...
Yeah they have almost caught up with mark 1 Tesla model S , good going !
Yeah they are catching up fast , the diesel scandal actually has played them a good role, costing them a lot but will make a good return and push people buying new ev cars
Definitely, they will be world number one in recycling Tesla batteries. What else could they do better than Tesla? Considering that the first two EV they started to sell not only have software problems, but their price is very close to Tesla model 3 which is double the car Offered by V W, check the specs and it is evident how far behind Tesla are.
@@sat7755 and the vw id3 is ugly as hell ... like the Cyber Truck ... Sorry
WOW!! good to know!!!!!!
So VW won't use those batteries for energy storage before recycling them?
Not necessary in many cases when the capacity is already very low
Amazing work!
Its nice of them trying to make it easy to recover materials.
There is just one thing, how many packs they can do in real time.
As it seems a single car pack takes a hour at least. That means that this is just a pilot plant, or they are ...
You expect them to build a big plant now, when the big numbers of batteries to recycle will start to come back from the field in 20-25 years (EOL)?
BTW, where are the battery recycling plants from Apple, Samsung, HP, Dell, ... - THEY should do something!
Interesting video. So much to do, just for electric cars
So how does it compare with loading oil tankers, then sailing them halfway around the World?
Great process. Polish language is everywhere 😜 pozdrawiam
This has got to be a health and safety demo for worst case scenario damaged cells. If they have fully discharged all undamaged packs before dismantling there should be no problems hefting the things out. Is it April 1st? If not VW are in huge trouble.
you simply don't get that they're toxic?
Looks super labor intensive
That is what you pay for when you buy one of these cars. And they do like to burn.
So is the oil industry...
Batteries should be given a second life as power banks at home.
Lithium iron phosphate, LFP, cells are best for this. And car batteries generally are not LFP
@@jackpalmer6253 Telsa Powerwall is the best and they use car batteries.
Agree - but sometimes there are bad cells and it is not safe to do so, in which case recycling is needed.
That would be the most dangerous power bank ever.
@@chrisnappi4473 individual bad cells are disabled. You will measure the pack and find bad cells. It’s all about measuring.
EV's "green" my arse
The shredder didn't look right for the job. So slow😑
German "engineering"
Definitely not very effective. Didn't seem sharp
Nonsense, they are still testing and improving the system, plus there is not a ton of batteries to recycle now.
I didn’t even know Volkswagen had an electric vehicle. I’ll tell you what that is a scary clean factory
They have sold small amounts of hybrids and EVs for years. Large production only started late last year.
Norway is literally filled with e-Golfs and e-UP!s, (EV's do not have the horrendous Norwegian vehicle taxes, not even the 25% V.A.T. we even have on medication.) and they are starting to get 5 year+. Even a small accident sends them to the crusher because of the high repair price, and batteries are sold on the market or sent for destruction. Most EV batteries are just incinerated today, or some of the metals are partly extracted. Dirty business..
You must be from the US? - having no idea what happens in the world around you! - The 2021 market share on EVs was 15% Tesla and 14% Volkswagen worldwide, while Volkswagen dominates the German (and good parts of the European) market. Their first BEV hit the market in 2013.
Nice 👍🙂 it's a very important video ☺️📸
Elon musk has left the chat.........hahahaha
No he's doing the same
"pilot operation". Read>understand>comment.
pilots do not operate, surgeons operate
its a pilot operation because they do not have the quantity of batteries for a large scale operation. They plan on extending the operation as soon as there is a larger demand. At the moment they plan to recycle 1500 tons a year. so around 3700 full packs.
3:00 for the fun part
And *06:15* for the animation.
Wonderful
Looks like Heisenberg lab
strangely very relaxing
Video 💯👌
The Canadian company American manganese has its patent Recyclico which is 100%environmentally friendly and already signed contract with italys gigafactory Italvolt! Make your own search and confirm!
I can't help it - the ambient sounds remind me of Kane Pixels' backrooms too much!
After discharging, transported with so care, only to shred it.
Germany..
I am pretty sure the shredding takes place under vacuum or no oxygen enviroment. It is a controlled space where if something goes wrong, the damage is contained. Safety first.
Cool
Die Jungs von der Straße sind mir heilig
Which brand is that machine?
I want to run a battery recycling business.
So I'm looking for that machine.
If we take this serious... there must be a 100% recycling Plan for every Produkt... mainly before the Produkt is out by the Consumer... not only with Batterys - Zero waste Community means 100% Recycling Quote... Reality is to much Crap lands in the Ocean
hear hear !
@@ronnyfarang586 you copy-pasted your comment without thinking if it "works" here too.
@@ronnyfarang586 "here" is THIS comment section,
(that "MFA Privat" started),
so it doesn't work,
you need to adjust it to work...
@@ronnyfarang586 oh I see...you're just "working" me...
well hahahaha...
Truly inspiring
Not everyone is inspired by this.
Omg what an unefficient process
It sucks, many other factories are much better at recycling batteries like the one created by the founder of tesla(YES ELON ISNT THE CREATOR OF TESLA)
@@creamwobbly to catch up with battery production you're gonna need much better
Didn't even have the slow crane bring the battery pack all the way to the conveyor belt, just to the table next to it where it was manually moved to the belt by hand.
At least it says that this is a "pilot plant", since this slow/inefficient of a process is just gonna lead to batteries that aren't recycled, as I find it hard to believe that the product extracted will be even close to the same price as non-recycled product. You'd almost just be better off taking the individual cells and just repurposing them to work in different use cases such as home power banks or breaking up the cells to somehow work in replacement of standard lead acid car batteries, or smaller devices. Just shredding them down to base material just seems tedious and expensive.
But also very necessary.
You realize that this is a pilot plant and they are still looking at how they will scale this? Pretty sure VW has smarter people than you working over there.
Interesting🤔🤔The packs are tested when they arrive. What if the pack is good? Usually not an entire pack is bad, maybe a few cells/pouches in a couple modules. What about all the good ones? This process should involve a route for good packs/modules/cells/pouches to be * reused* instead of recycled. If packs are only degraded but still functioning they can be used for residential or commercial energy storage.
Testing is probably for detecting the bad ones that have a higher risk on fire
Shame they do not remove the good packs inside the larger housing and reuse those. Not all packs would have failed.
Its already aged .. End of Life .. putting in another car is more risky for declared life ( repairing cost)
@@puvi007 actually I think this is just a test plant so the battery packs are probably not old at all
Mostly it's slow manual work. Would this plant handle all those thousands of batteries that are in production now?
No, but more recycling plants would be built, and come on stream in the future....
Actually not bad at all when you see all the elements separated the aluminium could be used elsewhere
Exactly. This is almost 100% recycling.....
So they shred them :)
In some case, Cars production 60JPH ..... Recycling process speed? It marketing or really planned recycled at same speed of cars productions in 5 years? this is my question. Good for start the process.
Next time Factory warranty only wants to pay something ridiculous like 2.7 hours on an engine overhaul I’m sending this vid of the guys at the factory working 😂🙏🏻
They should make those Aluminum Battery packs with removable covers to remove each battery, Less grinding & No Aluminum Contamination
I Take it !!!
I want that pillow
in asia we use them till their last voltage
What’s the cost of the recycling system? How many kilowatts of energy is used to recycle? What’s the Return on investment?
Ah yes this is what we achually need 👍
It doesn't its a vw factory for their needs, they may also recycle batteries from other companies
I know but if it dont make much profit or things that can help back it wount make sence
@@MW_DANIEL even tesla is still selling their cars at lost, we are still entering the EV era and its going to be a while before we really see some good efficiency in the EV industry. We still more and more materials to build EVs, the recycling is still very tiny
Why devastate aluminium cover? Why not dissasembly cell and use cover in new cells?
Why not weak cell for electric car use in stacionary battery system?
This is not a ecology.
in my point of view mostly for safety reasons ...
What happens with the black powder in this case?
It is the one part of the battery that is the hardest to recycle. It may contain the mentioned metals but it also has a bunch of undesired materials that aren't good for the environment. It's also known as "black mass" in the battery recycling industry.
The black mass is the very part of the battery one doesn't want to end up as land mass and is the reason for battery recycling in the first place. Yet most battery recycling plants are very secretive about what happens to the black mass. I suspect it ends up as land mass or filler material, as extracting the metals out of it is far too expensive and far too involving.
We'll send it to China because they don't give a rat's ass about their environment.
Everyone is processing the black mass and has done so for years. This is a valuable part of the battery that contains all the critical materials and is the main item people are after.
@@chriskahl9827 No one is even close to doing it on a commercial scale.
@@MegaBbqbbq They're closer to doing it than anyone is to recycling and re-using old burned petrol and diesel.....
More off this :-)
Dalla disposizione delle connessioni la batteria da 48 Kwh dovrebbe essere della Nuova ID3, anche se per il momento quelle in commercio (almeno per il nostro mercato) sono da 62 Kwh e 82 Kwh.
Ho many % are recycled by this test process?
I think they need different shredder spindles.
This is crazy. Your carbon footprint just went for a ball of shit.
Efficiencies and economies of scale are yet to be built in, but how is recycling increasing carbon footprint over mining?
So that’s what a $40,000 e-golf battery looks like.
Li Cycle seems more advanced with its Spoke and Hub build out expanding rapidly in America. This video reveals so many wasted steps.
That is the question.
There are about a million EV's produced every month, which means in about 10 years, one million of batteries will have to be recycled. Which is 23 batteries per minute in a plant running 24/365, or 23 batteries per hour in 60 plants running 24/365, which is 2,6 minutes per battery, double the amount of plants, 5 minutes per battery. And this is just the beginning, it is projected the numbers of EV's sold are going to go up very rapidly, to tenfold that value within a couple of years. You explain to me how this is going to work out.
Better than a scorched planet.
There are massive recycling centres being built. What you are seeing here is a pilot plant. Battery recycling is worth billions.
I wonder what percentage charge capacity was left in the battery. I suspect a second life in grid storage was more than feasible.
Wonder if they will bother once prices come further down ? Used cells would have a higher rate of failures ?
@@jestronixhanderson9898 it's feasible to assume battery prices will pop below 100 dollars a kw over the next few years however we are moving into situation where the cost of raw materials not manufacture will be cost driver due to demand.
Looking at battery life projections from CATL etc second life will become more important and valued.
There is definitely something to be improved from the original process. Why are the workers so careful with lifting the battery, when they are putting it into a shredding machine few minutes later
Useful part starts at 6:20 into the video.
The process is too luxurious.
There are more than 4 ppl working on ONE battery, In Germany how is this financially feasible the labour cost must be too high.
This is not financially feasible because it is a pilot plant.
@@m-th fair enough I guess it's actually a good step in the right direction then..
In the workshops, there should be a minimum of two technicians working on a battery, because of safety reasons.
Tesla just produced 500k vehicles this year and this is just one company. This is going to take forever to recycle batteries this way. Nice experiment...
Might as well turn those battery packs into utility storage what the point in shredding them?
if I work as slowly as they do I would be fired the same day. I also work with hazardous materials
Good for you man good for you
So you burn cables for copper in africa?
They sure make it look like a badly directed PR stunt than a working recycle plant. But it looks like what they did can all be automated.
@@FIGHTTHECABLE watch American Factory on Netflix and you'll understand what I'm talking about
what about battery packs that were damaged in an accident?
That was a ready made power wall.
How are those lithium packs not catching on fire when they are shredded... They must have the entire shredder/separator pumped full of nitrogen.
The cells are deep-discharged to nearly 0V before shredding.
This is very likely. Outside the shredder is a sign "Erstickungsgefahr" which translates to "asphyxiation hazard".
@@Sassi7997 yeah that's makes sense then.
The animation at the end was better to understand
the mining of the future ..
Big accuracy and clean like nuclear fuel handling and after that... SHREDDER !
Hehe Yes thought of nucler waste getting handled. Like dismantling a nuclear plant by grinding off the surface until detected radiation is below a accepted standard.
Crusher?... Isn't it better to disassemble and remove pure lithium rather than trying to separate pieces of it from other metals?
Geil
Glad it's only a pilot project, because my math says you need to be able to take them apart as fast as you put them together sooner or later.
So cautious then just drop it in grinder
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Lots of very expensive equipment. Lots of manpower. Expensive shipping and crating. Is this another government subsidize project?
More directed at as little manual labour as possible. I was quite shocked at this, shredding whole battery modules is an absolute disgrace, the amount of energy involved, and this is meant to be eco friendly
The shredder doesn’t make it explode?
Its under vacuum which means no way of catching fire
01:10 disassemble
03:35 shredder
Key question: how much energy and pollution does this save over the extaction from raw ore from the ground?
I imagine alot, but thought I'd ask for a quantitative answer.
energy is not a problem since the extraction machines could be powered by solar power, however, finding a new materials such as copper, cobalt,etc.. is very expensive and pollutes nature heavily, as well as throwing used batteries into waste yards.
I did nota see nothing
Why did they even destroy them they could have reuse them in stationary electric storage with less capacity
My guess is that this pilot plant is for when the batteries are truly at the end of usable life.
All we need to know is how much CO2 is released during the process
*Way* less than the average fossil car emits over its lifetime. Google “Cleaner cars from cradle to grave” if you want to see the data
There is no co2 in the batteries and the factory runs on clean electricity
@@AnalogueKid2112 Hahahaha I've read a lot of this crap... until I've decided to do the calculations by my own - guess what you'll be the surprised one - in its best, there is no difference... but only ICE has potential for real Zero emissions
Can’t be much worse than burning fossil juice
@@lumicolour1 we actually burn fossil fuels to mine lithium and transport it
I think the pink chains are a bit of a give away.........
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