I wondered this exact question. thank you for doing the experiment and showing us. I suppose it makes sense it gets more sour. My main hesitation with 36-48 hours cold is that I never tried it before. Now I have the courage to give it a shot! 😊
All we see on TH-cam on bread is sometimes so confusing, but you with all the experiments you do make everything clear. Thank you very much for your teaching.
I love long-fermented bread and it is good for those who are gluten u tolerant. The sourness is the best and it is heaven when you give the first bite.
I always really enjoy your videos and feel I learn something from each of them including this one. I am a small home micro bakery and cold ferment for 18 hrs I like that you demonstrate the differences and also that your recipes are right. I will say that there are way too many people on TH-cam posting videos and their measurements are WRONG, which is very frustrating. Yours are always exact. Thank you for this video. I am going to try your app.
Your same day baked bread looks like it achieved the greatest volume, even though it spread sideways a little more. We are very used to acidic sourdough here in California, so I try to push the fermentation of the levain, and the dough to the extreme in fermentation, even using a couple grams of citric acid to help. Often the loaves can appear a little flat as I'm pushing this envelope. We bake for taste, and this is what we like!
your video are so so good, I am new to sourdough and I would like to start to learn and prepare my bread home, could you teach us to do a bread with whole meal flour please? and without a mixer maybe, by hand only? thank you.
Our refrigerator runs a bit warm. About 41F. So, I usually only bake the same day with just a few hours in the fridge. Sometimes I even put the loaf in the freezer for half an hour to slow it down.
I tried it yesterday. I let my dough do its bulk fermentation at room temp. Then I shaped it and put it into a banneton and into the refrigerator overnight. In the morning it only rose slightly compared to yesterday. I baked it after preheating my oven. It definitely was easier to use the lame on it. It rose just fine during baking and tastes better than when I just bake it after 12 hours. I decided it’s worth it to do 24 hours if I have time.
@@tammyinwv1I never tried to put the dough straight into the fridge. I put it in the fridge AFTER bulk fermentation at room temperature. Normally I have just baked it after 12 hours at room temp but the loaf I baked after cold fermentation did rise as much as one that I let ferment at room temp.
Hi I use a recipe where I mix and fold the dough one morning, then cold ferment in the fridge till the next morning, the difference is I shape in the morning then let it rise about 3 hours before baking, is that an ok method as well, since I noticed you shape, then ferment, then bake immediately. I have some big pockets and other smaller pockets...but feel I could get a better rise but am unsure if I'm letting it rise too long after shaping in the morning. I would be grateful for any suggestions!
Hello, I just subscribed your channel and start watching your videos. Just a question how long should I wait to put the bread to the fridge after I shape it?
How much did each dough rise (cca.) in percentage before putting it in the fridge for 8, 24 and 48 h? Were they all double in size before shaping and putting in the fridge?
I have a chocolate sourdough cold proofing now for 7 hours. so i can even go as far as 48 hours? wow!! so i would not have any overproofing issues then as long as its within 48 hrs?
The percentages don't work out. For example, 431gr flour is 43.1% of the 1000gr total, not 85%.. It appears the percentages are roughly doubled. Can someone please explain?
Fac paine cu maia mai demult! Imi place gustul,dar mi se pare ca devine uscacioasa prea repede! E crescuta,alveolata,are crusta cu basicute,dar,repet,se usuca prea repede! Dospeste la temperatura camerei cca -3-3,5 ore,ii fac preshaping,apoi shaping si fermenteaza la rece 12 -14 ore. Unde gresesc?
Why is there an edit for each reveal of the crumb, i suspect there was some repeated baking to get the look he was after. Otherwise why the edits, why not just a single shot live reveal. Also not sure about his ability to read thermometers. 22.5 is not “ about 25”. Also the procedure was vague. Were each loaf proofed at room temp first, then put in fridge? Were they shaped and immediately put in fridge? Why not be clear on a process video. Sorry but not helpful to me. It is easy to fix.
I wondered this exact question. thank you for doing the experiment and showing us. I suppose it makes sense it gets more sour. My main hesitation with 36-48 hours cold is that I never tried it before. Now I have the courage to give it a shot! 😊
All we see on TH-cam on bread is sometimes so confusing, but you with all the experiments you do make everything clear. Thank you very much for your teaching.
You are so welcome!
@@glutenmorgentven I don't understand: why doesn't each method produce the same size bubbles? I ask, because I want to make large pizza bubbles.
I love long-fermented bread and it is good for those who are gluten u tolerant.
The sourness is the best and it is heaven when you give the first bite.
🍞 Learn how to make sourdough bread with Gluten Morgen: www.glutenmorgentv.com/sourdoughbread
I have been fermenting my poolish overnight and then adding the flour and baking on the next day. But I am trying your method right now. Thank You
I've never gone beyond 24 hours. I like your video, very inspiring!
The 48h cold fermentation sounds the best 😊
I always really enjoy your videos and feel I learn something from each of them including this one. I am a small home micro bakery and cold ferment for 18 hrs I like that you demonstrate the differences and also that your recipes are right. I will say that there are way too many people on TH-cam posting videos and their measurements are WRONG, which is very frustrating. Yours are always exact. Thank you for this video. I am going to try your app.
Your same day baked bread looks like it achieved the greatest volume, even though it spread sideways a little more. We are very used to acidic sourdough here in California, so I try to push the fermentation of the levain, and the dough to the extreme in fermentation, even using a couple grams of citric acid to help. Often the loaves can appear a little flat as I'm pushing this envelope. We bake for taste, and this is what we like!
Great comparison! I personally like the tangier taste so I will try the 48 hr version, thanks❤
TH-cam recommended this to me on the home page and it's fascinating.
We are glad you liked it! 🙌 🙌 🙌
Usually go between 24 and 36 depending upon my work hours.
Perfect!
Thank You!
your video are so so good, I am new to sourdough and I would like to start to learn and prepare my bread home, could you teach us to do a bread with whole meal flour please? and without a mixer maybe, by hand only? thank you.
Yes I will
Our refrigerator runs a bit warm. About 41F. So, I usually only bake the same day with just a few hours in the fridge. Sometimes I even put the loaf in the freezer for half an hour to slow it down.
The ones going into the fridge to ferment... do you allow them to raise at room temp in bannton first then put in fridge?
Did you get an answer to this question? I want to know as well
@@JD-72191 no i didnt. But i have seen other videos where they went straight to fridge. It worries me they will not raise in fridge
I tried it yesterday. I let my dough do its bulk fermentation at room temp. Then I shaped it and put it into a banneton and into the refrigerator overnight. In the morning it only rose slightly compared to yesterday. I baked it after preheating my oven. It definitely was easier to use the lame on it. It rose just fine during baking and tastes better than when I just bake it after 12 hours. I decided it’s worth it to do 24 hours if I have time.
@@JD-72191 did it raise just as much straight in fridge for raise in banneton
@@tammyinwv1I never tried to put the dough straight into the fridge. I put it in the fridge AFTER bulk fermentation at room temperature. Normally I have just baked it after 12 hours at room temp but the loaf I baked after cold fermentation did rise as much as one that I let ferment at room temp.
Excellent! 🥖
Thank you 🙌
Great video thank you. It's made me want to reactivate my old sourdough starters :). I think I'll prefer the 24hr one also.
Hi I use a recipe where I mix and fold the dough one morning, then cold ferment in the fridge till the next morning, the difference is I shape in the morning then let it rise about 3 hours before baking, is that an ok method as well, since I noticed you shape, then ferment, then bake immediately. I have some big pockets and other smaller pockets...but feel I could get a better rise but am unsure if I'm letting it rise too long after shaping in the morning. I would be grateful for any suggestions!
I let my dough rise 2 hours with my raisins in it, then I baked it,I let it rise overnight in the refrigerator
Hello, I just subscribed your channel and start watching your videos. Just a question how long should I wait to put the bread to the fridge after I shape it?
Great video ❤
Do you have to wait after refrigeration to put it in the oven? If so how long?
Посмотрела с удовольствием Я тоже считаю что хлеб после того как отстоял в холодильнике хотя бы 12 часов будет вкуснее
"Back in the day" (1970s-1980s), having an open crumb meant your bread was insufficiently kneaded and overproofed. Times and tastes change.
how do i send you a pic of my first 100% rey sourdough bread i baked tonight.
488 f for 20 min, how long did you bake uncovered and what was temperature? Thank you, bread looks amazing
How to reduce the acidity of the starter?
Lol, I love your channel's name 😂 so original 😂
How much did each dough rise (cca.) in percentage before putting it in the fridge for 8, 24 and 48 h? Were they all double in size before shaping and putting in the fridge?
Put the same day in the fridge for 1 hour tthen score for good ear and opening
excellent wie immer
I have a chocolate sourdough cold proofing now for 7 hours. so i can even go as far as 48 hours? wow!! so i would not have any overproofing issues then as long as its within 48 hrs?
Hi is it possible to naturally fermente the dough without any starter just curious but need help ..
You kept saying 25°C for the dough temperature, but it was actually 22°C. Which temperature is better?
Is there a reason the app doesn't use baker's percentages?
What happened to the uneven bread in the thumbnail? I though this was going to be a lesson in how to avoid huge holes
De-gas for regular, no holes crumb.
The percentages don't work out. For example, 431gr flour is 43.1% of the 1000gr total, not 85%.. It appears the percentages are roughly doubled. Can someone please explain?
@sarsoar Thank you for the explanation. Still learning about this bread making thing!!!!!
Fac paine cu maia mai demult! Imi place gustul,dar mi se pare ca devine uscacioasa prea repede! E crescuta,alveolata,are crusta cu basicute,dar,repet,se usuca prea repede! Dospeste la temperatura camerei cca -3-3,5 ore,ii fac preshaping,apoi shaping si fermenteaza la rece 12 -14 ore. Unde gresesc?
I find it hard to understand some words this person says, at 15.04 he says "the dition makes magic)?...
TH-cam captions reckons it’s “the vision makes magic”. I think it might be a phrase that doesn’t translate well to English
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seems 24 hours is best
Why is there an edit for each reveal of the crumb, i suspect there was some repeated baking to get the look he was after. Otherwise why the edits, why not just a single shot live reveal. Also not sure about his ability to read thermometers. 22.5 is not “ about 25”. Also the procedure was vague. Were each loaf proofed at room temp first, then put in fridge? Were they shaped and immediately put in fridge? Why not be clear on a process video. Sorry but not helpful to me. It is easy to fix.