Summerslam 90 was one of the greatest wrestling vhs tapes of it's time.
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Not to bury Piper, but when Bruce was talking about him putting people over on commentary, all I could think of was Undertaker's debut where he goes "LOOOOOOOK AT THE SIIIIZZZZE OF THAT HAMMMMM HOOOOCCCK"
I never liked Roddy on commentary but that call at Survivor Series 1990 on The Undertaker's debut was pure gold and it really put The Undertaker over in a big way as a new dark destructive heel
Back in 1983, Hulk Hogan was Plan C. Plan B was for a Von Erich, probably Kerry, to become WWF World Champion instead of Backlund. (Plan A in late '82 was for Superstar Graham to get his revenge and later turn babyface like some say he should have in '78, but that was scuppered when he turned up as Bald Karate Man.)
There is a class of guys for whom history has been rewritten by rivals leaking to Meltzer to denigrate them, jealous colleagues running them down in books and interviews, and just a ton of bullshit...Kerry is near the top of that list. His life and career was tragic, but he was one of the biggest stars of the 80's boom and if not for all the tragedy and personal shortcomings, he would have been even bigger...and no, he was not a perpetual fuck up in the ring, and no, David was not the real star of the family
@@kurtvanderbogarde8402 good thing it ended up being Hogan cause he is the only one who could have handled that spot and had the skillset to make the overall vision Vince had work
@@WillReacts The Revenge Of Superstar Graham would have been alright until his hip started to give way in 1986. If it wasn't for that, I reckon he could have done Randy Savage's spot in 1988-1989. Of course if they had kept him as champion and turned him face in 1978, then by the time 1986 and the soggy hip rolled round, he would have been ripe to step down anyway.
Power & Glory's finisher was called the Powerplex. I always thought they were better than they got credit for, if not good enough to be on top in one of the most stacked tag team divisions in history.
Might be wrong about this but I believe they were in line for a big push and a tag team championship run around Wrestlemania 7 but The Nasty Boys came in around Royal Rumble and they were made the top heel tag team instead.
@@justinmartin1831 I heard this too. I’m surprised they went with the Nasty Boys since they were WCW guys. Maybe the Hart Foundation said they would rather put over the Nasty Boys.
This was the first wrestling PPV I saw. Of course I was over the moon for Hulk Hogan, but I also became a big Bret Hart fan watching this. I loved Piper on commentary and I recall arguing with friends whether or not Marty Jannetty should have won. Too bad Power and Glory had their legs cut off. They were an awesome act too - and I didn't know Paul Roma used to be a jobber. This show will always have a very special place in my heart.
RIP Hercules, Kerry Von Erich, Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig, Bobby "The Brain" Heenan, Sapphire, Sherri Martel, Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart, Brian "Crush" Adams, The Road Warriors Animal and Hawk, Bad News Brown, The Big Boss Man, Nikolai Volkoff, Mr. Fuji, Dusty Rhodes, "Macho King" Randy Savage, John "Earthquake" Tenta, Dino Bravo, The Ultimate Warrior, "Ravishing" Rick Rude, "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, Mean Gene Okerlund, Howard Finkel, Joey Marella
Love how The Big Bossman had so much to do on this PPV he was my childhood favourite and is still in my top 5 favourites of all time ,he was awesome and a damn great guy on all accounts too.
One of my favorite PPVs from my childhood for these reasons: 1) Hogan returned after the Earthquake attack. I got so sucked into that angle, it was crazy. 2) Harts Vs. Demolition = The match that made me fall in love with tag team wrestling as an artform 3) The angle with Sapphire = Say what you will, but as a kid, I dug it and when DiBiase revealed what he did, I just grew to love to hate him even more, lol.
I agree too. This is one of my favorite PPVs of all time. I was 7 when it happened. It was also one of the first Coliseum videos I owned as a kid. I couldnt even begin to count how many times I've watched this. Love the whole thing. The Demolition, Hart Foundation tag team match is one of my favorite tag matches ever. It told a great story and was action packed the whole match. Smash took all of big bumps in this one, go back and watch. Barry Darsow is such an underrated wrestler.
A couple of things- 1. Piper never even tried to put himself over. At the beginning of Summerslam the whole crowd was chanting for Roddy and he didn't have to do a thing to get that response. 2. Piper was not a baby face announcer at this event. He did cheer the babyfaces but at times put the heels like Power and Glory over. He pointed out how stupid it was for Hogan to try to slam Earthquake. He was more if a tweener which was interesting.
Indeed. To add, he also seemingly was pro-Rude, or definitely put Rude over, in spite of their animosity towards each other (storyline). He even picked Rude to win.
THIS IS THE LAST WWF PPV WHERE THEY USED THE "HOT LIGHTS" THE BRIGHTER YELLOWING TINT LIGHTS THAT GAVE WWF SUCH A GREAT LOOK BACK IN THE DAY, IT WOULD BE REPLACED WITH A MORE SUBDUED FLORESCENT LIGHTING STARTING WITH THE 1990 SURVIVOR SERIES, WHICH GAVE A MORE CAVERNOUS FEEL. THIS PPV WAS GREAT....AS WARRIOR SAID.. A DING DONG...
Oh my god. You just made me notice something that subconsciously I always noticed but never could explain. You're freaking right! The shows WERE lit different after this! And they looked like #$#%^. Before everyone glowed. Then they became, kind of, shadowy.
I was in attendance for this show... my first and only wwf pay-per-view and that place rocked when Piper came out for commentary as he had been gone since wm6. I think my fondest memory is Kerry Von Erich winning the Intercontinental title as two title changes on one card had never happened b4
About the Sgt Slaughter heel turn: I always remember Pro Wrestling Illustrated (or one of the spin-offs mags) making up a story that went something like "Sgt. Slaughter forgives Nikolai Volkoff"...I thought it was funny that this story came out on the new-stands while at the same time Sgt. Slaughter was shown re-debuting on WWF TV totally trashing Nikolia...Me and my friends were all wondering how PWI was gonna walk their fake story back...Sure enough, PWI subsequently did an "interview" with The Sarge where he laughs at PWI and said he lied to PWI and was merely testing everyone to see how gullible the public had become before returning to the WWF...Hilarious, Only in wrestling LOL
This had to be so exciting if you grew up and are from Philadelphia! First ever ppv at the old Spectrum. Great time for wrestling exciting story line with hogan and earthquake and saphire turing shady on big dust . I can imagine how excited kids my age at the time i was 12 and learning that this summerslam was coming to you're hometown Philadelphia (Spectrum) I would love to hear you're memories. Greetings from Buffalo New York
This was onenot my favorite years to watch. Sucks they were down from 89 and again in 91. 91 I thought was another great year. Royal rumble was awesome. Mania too and summerslam. I love watching these old tapes. Sad but happy same time. Least it happens than never at all
Losing Ventura around this time in the summer of 90 sucked. Even though of course I hated the Heels as a kid back then I always loved Jesse. I didn’t know about that pilot (Tag Team) him and Piper did also in 1990 till a year or so ago and there is surviving footage of that one episode in pretty shitty quality but it’s worth it to try and check that out for a big laugh.
53:10 That "crazy character" and the face paint are exactly what everyone loved about Ultimate Warrior. I hated the "kid-friendly" version with less face paint. Bruce is way off base when he says fans weren't relating to Warrior. Warrior got over HUGE just by being himself.
Bruce cannot get over his dislike of the man. And that's sad. All of us, or most, enjoyed the Warrior as kids and we didn't care that he didn't do armdrags in the 2nd match or have Iron Man matches.
@@basedelon Well said. Isn't it ironic that Warrior's match with HHH at Wrestlemania XII (which was under 2 minutes) was much more exciting than the highly touted "masterpiece" of an Iron Man match between Bret/Shawn?
@@Dizzy1980 Agreed. Bret-Shawn could have been way better than it was. We're talking about today. Will anyone be talking about some jackoff like Finn Balor or Dean Ambrose in 20 years? No.
unfortunately the numbers don't lie and his explanation that making Warrior the tippy top guy didn't lead to any growth for the company or his personal fanbase is 100% factual
I'm with you Moore Kuts. I was 7 as well. I remember watching this with my dad live and this was also one of my first Coliseum videos I owned too. Great memories of watching wrestling with dad. Im so glad he got me into it at a very early age.
I don't know if Conrad watched this or not because he says Rude shaved his moustache , which he did not. The other thing is Prichard keeps talking about Slaughter coming back to do the Iraqi angle, but he Iraq didn't even invade Quwait until after his vignettes had been shot .
@@ericjackson7632 His vignette's coming back into the company started airing around the time Iraq invaded so they were obviously shot several weeks earlier. So the notion he was brought back with the iraq gimmick in mind is false. i have all the prime time wrestling from that time period it just seems very out of left field when he is put agains the Warrior because up until then he was totally in the lower mid card.
@@eabcool I was a child at the time so fron my memory Iraq wasn't a thing until the Fall. Either way Im more likely to go with what you are saying because it didn't seem like it was hot enough to have Slaughter main eventing, but who knows. He was a top guy prior and the idea of Mr. GI Joe turning on his country does seem big. Perhaps the Nikolai feud was just for someone to feed him and get wins over early on.
Slaughter has said in interviews that Vince brought brought him in for the angle… said his selling point was headlining LA with over 100,000 ppl as the ex GI Joe Slaughter turned Iraqi sympathizer vs All American Hogan
I'm a member of FDM club, but it's part of the structure of the show. Right or wrong, it's always been a popular read amongst wrestling fans, and there's not many options to pull from.
1:50:32 Thank you so damn much Bruce for finally FINALLY putting Conrad, Dave and all of them IN THEIR PLACE there. Tired, drunk or not, Bruce finally said it like it needed to be said and has been probably the best moment on the show I've heard in a while. Only watch the show for Bruce's "sole" part in it, but putting up with Conrad's annoying Meltzer mentions, moot point money/ticket/ppv buys/ratings/Batista's Dick . . . (silence) mentions, not to mention his "HARH HARH HARH HARH HARH HARH" laugh . . . . its been (like Bruce commonly says) like pulling freaking teeth haha.
@@rockstarbd82 Agree on everything except ppv buys/tickets. I do appreciate knowing things like that. However, that Batista's dick bullshit wasn't funny the first time, and it's even worse each successive time.
17:35 Call it hokey all you want Conrad, but Sgt Slaughter had NUCLEAR heat in 1990-1991. He wasn't the best wrestler, but Slaughter was a believably monster heel.
89 was soo underrated!! The kickoff match heart foundation vs brain busters a great technical match threw out of the four fantastic wrestlers!! Sorry ( anvil) 😅 Superfly returns to his first ppv since wrestlemania 1 the Zeus macho man vs hogan storyline was awesome at the time I was kid . I remember how big the Meadowlands arena looked on t.v as a kid a electric atmosphere I was 12 life was great ! Greetings from Buffalo New York
Yup. Which is why Warrior's reign as champion was flat. We had been down the Rude route. When Hogan was champ he did not go back to feuding with Andre or Savage. HE MOVED ON.
@@cpaman28 Yep. When Rude bashed Warrior at Royal Rumble 1989, and then Bobby Heenan cheated at Wrestlemania V, that was all the heat they needed to carry them through almost an entire year of matches.
@Bryan Mack I know Warrior wasn't as big as Hogan. My point is Hogan and Andre feud ended SummerSlam 88. Hogan never went back to him. Warrior and Rude ended at SummerSlam 89. Warrior and Rude moved on. But after winning the title he went right back to Rude.
I really wish they did a program with Hogan and Rude. I like Hogan. At the time, i loved Hogan. But i cant help but believe Hogan saw “too much” in Rude and was scared to work with him cuz he (Rude) might garner too much heat!
YES, THANK YOU BRUCE, & CONRAD SOOOOOO MUCH FOR "FINALLY" "FINALLY" after all these years, putting out on the GREATEST INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPION IN WWF(FUCK E) HISTORY....Wayne "Honky Tonk Man" Ferris! I CANNOT BELIEVE IT TOOK THIS LONG!
@blacksixspeed No no, I have seen hours of his shoots, including his 3 hour one on TH-cam. I mean that after seeing all the shoots I wanna see what Bruce can add on. Bad wording on my part, I didn't mean I wasn't exited, I meant I wanna hear something I didn't already know.
Bruce dodging that question about Rude maybe main eventing Mania with Hogan was funny. I get why the went Rude against Warrior at Summerslam. That's no reason why Rude couldn't have taken Slaughter's place and feuded with Hogan at Mania. Anything would have been better than what we got.
Warrior had the belt taken off him because of the Gulf War, otherwise he'd have had it until Mania or beyond. There's too much bullshit about Warrior not being able to carry the ball. Just because business is not at a historical peak, doesn't mean you've failed. Vince just wanted to exploit the war. Warrior and Savage had the last laugh at 7 though.
Probably just being spiteful to Vince. He was taking over for Jesse in Color commentary. In his own words on an interview, “ I don’t want to do it. It’s for old washed-up wrestlers.”
Actually at that point Heenan had (storyline) sold Andre's contract to DiBiase so technically Heenan wasn't managing Andre for those few seconds he was champ.
@@freemind6954 Meh, Heenan still accompanied Andre to the ring every single time, before, during, and after Andre's brief WWF title reign. In fact, this exact issue came up in the commentary for Survivor Series 1988. Gorilla remarked that Heenan had never managed a champion, and Jesse retorted "what are you talking about? Andre held the title!"
@@jonfranks6902 "Hernan" barely ever appeared in the corner of Flair, and he was never referred to as Flair's full-blown manager. Even Mr. Perfect, who actually accompanied Flair to ringside, was dubbed Flair's "executive consultant".
What we learn here is that it wasn't that Warrior wasn't working - Bruce clearly states that the idea was for Hogan to main event against a heel at WM7 from the beginning. So they never pushed Warrior. Logically, it should've been Warrior/Taker or Warrior/Savage at WM7.
WM7 is a bit early for taker even though he did get to the top very fast. I know it was unheard of to do the multiway matches at the time (and warrior/savage on its own did work so it could have still existed seperately) but imagine their massive coliseum show for WM7 working because you get either -- champion warrior v hogan v savage v earthquake v rude v (I guess you could still do slaughter and have even other bad guys like rude be against his antics, slaughter vs the world type thing, or i guess this could be taker or even iron sheik maybe, idk someone to make it a 6 way but obv this last person isn't a main player) or savage/warrior stays separate and heel champ rude (won it exactly how slaughter did at rumble) v hogan v quake (and probably vs a 4th but even a 3 way does the huge odds against hogan thing again that they always liked). I feel like those create a lot more spectacle and tie many existing issues together more than making a military conflict into a wrestling angle with a main player being a guy we hadnt hardly seen in 7+ years.
1:07:55 Roddy Piper probably had the Dancing In The Street charity video from 1985 in mind rather than Ziggy Stardust and Jumping Jack Flash when he made his "Bowie & Jagger" comments.
Those whelps on Earthquake’s back from Boss Man hitting him with a stepladder three times…OUCH!!! Did they not gimmick the ladder or did Boss Man not grab the right “tool” for the job? I wonder if that caused some hard feelings.
I love this PPV but as a kid it was the first time I realized wrestling might not be as real as I thought. I just remembered thinking how can Hogen survive two splashes from the Earthquake when just a few months ago one splash put Hogen in the hospital? I still refer to it as the moment Hulk Hogen ruined my childhood.
Every era had a peak. Austin’s bad idea wanting to turn heel ended the attitude era at Mania 17. I think the golden era ended when Hulk was beat cleanly by warrior. There really wasn’t a big match left after that and it showed during Warrior’s reign. Hogan already cleared out the whole heel factory.
Just watched the Perfect/Tornado match! I still find it to be a great great match!!! The finish was great: slingshot to the corner post, the claw, then the 🌪 punch for the win!
I loved Summerslam 1990. I agree with Bruce and Conrad, I would put this at a 7.5 maybe 8. Bruce was a great tv character as Brother Love. I loved the steel cage match. I thought Bobby Heenan would succedd and finally have a family member win the WWF Championship.
Hogan didn’t wanna work with Rude because he thought he was like a Tasmanian devil. Bruce yet AGAIN lying and leaving stuff out. He’s a great wrestling mind but not everything he did is everyone else’s fault. If he’s gonna be so defensive and secretive don’t do the show. Remember this is the same guy that tries to still defend the Red Rooster gimmick
The truth is that tugboat never got over. Nobody cared about him. Tugboat only got over when he became typhoon. Having big boss man there made more sense because he was over and on the rise. I like rick rude but he and hogan would not been a good match. I don't know why Conrad is so obsessed with that.
Warrior got old feuds (Savage, Rude) unlike Hogan who always got the fresh awesome heel. Don't get me wrong Savage and Rude are one of the best but Warrior already had his Feuds with those guys so his Championship run wasn't given the full opportunity it should have had in my opinion!!!
No one ever mentions how fast Kerry Von Erich changed his ring gear between his interview and his entrance.. Lol.. I know the interview was pre taped, I just find it hilarious that no one ever noticed this..
Was The Big Bossman injured here? He referees Jake vs Bad News and is in Hogans corner against Earthquake but not in a match. I also read he was supposed to be against The Million Dollar Man at Summerslam 90 does anyone know if thats true? Was the match announced on WWF television and then pulled?
I was a huge fan in the early nineties and lost interest after attitude era ended. Women's wrestling got me back into the WWE. Smackdown has 3 amazing female wrestlers in Bayley, Sascha Banks, and Alexa Bliss. What do you think of building a stable (the four horsewomen, needs a better name and can't see Charlotte Flair as ringleader.) consisting of these 3 and Mandy Rose with Alexa bringing in Bray Wyatt and Mandy bringing in Otis to develop a storyline that causes Otis to cash in his money in the bank against Bray.
imagine how good of shape the show would be if the women were actually as good as marketed and they didnt just botch out every match and cry every loss. sasha banks is my favorite person in wwe it just sucks the womens wrestling is still bad and graded on a scale. the marketing makes ppl take it seriously at least
Lol @ the Luger comment. I know you Bruce wasn't watching NWA/WCW at that point all that much, but Luger was red-hot in the ring from 88-91, and having great matches even with washed up Tommy Rich & Dan Spivey.
I agree with you. I was shocked when he said that about Luger in that time frame. Luger was like the number 3 guy back then behind Sting and Flair, that's my opinion, but I was also a child back then when I watched NWA/WCW, USWA, WWF etc. What is your opinion on Luger's place in the company at the time? Because I definitely agree with you, he was red hot back then
Why does Conrad keep asking about Hogan and Rude? Several previous times on this show it's been stated that Hogan didn't like or trust Rude and wouldn't work with him. The reason? Rude wouldn't kiss his ass and stood up to him.
My theory is probably after that one match they had against each other in the Boston Garden in early 1988, where Rude -to me - kinda stiff Hogan with a shot to the head with the wooden chair, Hogan said, “Nah, I’m good.”
Was really looking forward to this one but very disappointed with an unenthusiastic Bruce. Highlight of the show was when Bruce loosened up for 10 seconds with a Dusty impersonation. 2 hours is a terrible effort for such a great PPV. Bruce jobbed out on this one.
1:27:45 I always found it absurd listening to Vince Mcmahon claim that Smash and Ax looked so much alike... they don't look anything alike! What a lame angle. That Ax/Smash/Crush pre-match promo was entertaining though... "Maybe it's me with Ax... or maybe it's me with Smash!"
I remember i was at the house show the night before this ppv at the Niagara falls civic and convention center. The main event was Hulk Hogan Vs Dino Bravo bossman in hogans corner and earthquake in bravos corner . Hogan never appeared at house shows in Niagara falls or ( Buffalo Ny) For that matter . The Niagara falls civic and convention center was just a small little unique ( egg soup can ) shapped civic center which is now unfortunately ( Casino Niagara) i remember the pop from the crowd when hulk hogans entrance music hit the place went crazy!!!! It was a great card in general the heart foundation wrestled power and glory . Bad news brown faced jake the snake bad news came to the ring with a cage covered thinking they were harlem sewer rats 😅😅 Mr perfect wrestled I remember there were however a couple jobbers however pez whatley wrestled the warlord Black bart wrestled tito santana i think ? There was a big water park named Niagara spash located right next to the Niagara falls civic and convention center. We spent the afternoon at the waterpark went to the car to change and dry off then went into the civic center to watch the matches. One of the best childhood memories at 12 years old . Greetings from Buffalo New York
the economic recession of 1990 hit middle-class, lower middle class, and working poor families very hard. those families did not have money to spend on wrestling like they did when the economy was at its peak in 1987.
Okay wait, Bruce is always putting himself over for every next big thing (now The Undertaker) in WWE, so I'm wondering, then why does he keep getting fired lol
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I recorded this PPview and I ended up wearing the tape out from watching it repeatedly through the years. Awesome show but I missed Jesse.
Jesse was the best Heel color commentator ever, def a miss letting him go. But on both ends as he never fit in as well in WCW.
Summerslam 90 was one of the greatest wrestling vhs tapes of it's time.
Not to bury Piper, but when Bruce was talking about him putting people over on commentary, all I could think of was Undertaker's debut where he goes "LOOOOOOOK AT THE SIIIIZZZZE OF THAT HAMMMMM HOOOOCCCK"
"Look at them drumsticks baby..."
I never liked Roddy on commentary but that call at Survivor Series 1990 on The Undertaker's debut was pure gold and it really put The Undertaker over in a big way as a new dark destructive heel
I remember that line!
"Somebody needs some nigh nigh time"
My first WWF ppv and have been hooked ever since! 30 years strong
Me too man
Rented WM 6 and SS 90 was my first live PPV
I watched the end of Kerry's Match over and over and the Audience popped super hard! He. Was. Over!!!
Back in 1983, Hulk Hogan was Plan C. Plan B was for a Von Erich, probably Kerry, to become WWF World Champion instead of Backlund. (Plan A in late '82 was for Superstar Graham to get his revenge and later turn babyface like some say he should have in '78, but that was scuppered when he turned up as Bald Karate Man.)
There is a class of guys for whom history has been rewritten by rivals leaking to Meltzer to denigrate them, jealous colleagues running them down in books and interviews, and just a ton of bullshit...Kerry is near the top of that list.
His life and career was tragic, but he was one of the biggest stars of the 80's boom and if not for all the tragedy and personal shortcomings, he would have been even bigger...and no, he was not a perpetual fuck up in the ring, and no, David was not the real star of the family
@@kurtvanderbogarde8402 good thing it ended up being Hogan cause he is the only one who could have handled that spot and had the skillset to make the overall vision Vince had work
@@WillReacts The Revenge Of Superstar Graham would have been alright until his hip started to give way in 1986. If it wasn't for that, I reckon he could have done Randy Savage's spot in 1988-1989. Of course if they had kept him as champion and turned him face in 1978, then by the time 1986 and the soggy hip rolled round, he would have been ripe to step down anyway.
Are you sure it wasn’t just cause the rabid Philly crowd were popping at everything
Power & Glory's finisher was called the Powerplex. I always thought they were better than they got credit for, if not good enough to be on top in one of the most stacked tag team divisions in history.
Palace Of Wisdom Very underrated team.
Powerplex + Glory Hole.
Might be wrong about this but I believe they were in line for a big push and a tag team championship run around Wrestlemania 7 but The Nasty Boys came in around Royal Rumble and they were made the top heel tag team instead.
agree - they had a cool look
@@justinmartin1831 I heard this too. I’m surprised they went with the Nasty Boys since they were WCW guys. Maybe the Hart Foundation said they would rather put over the Nasty Boys.
This was the first wrestling PPV I saw. Of course I was over the moon for Hulk Hogan, but I also became a big Bret Hart fan watching this. I loved Piper on commentary and I recall arguing with friends whether or not Marty Jannetty should have won. Too bad Power and Glory had their legs cut off. They were an awesome act too - and I didn't know Paul Roma used to be a jobber.
This show will always have a very special place in my heart.
RIP Hercules, Kerry Von Erich, Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig, Bobby "The Brain" Heenan, Sapphire, Sherri Martel, Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart, Brian "Crush" Adams, The Road Warriors Animal and Hawk, Bad News Brown, The Big Boss Man, Nikolai Volkoff, Mr. Fuji, Dusty Rhodes, "Macho King" Randy Savage, John "Earthquake" Tenta, Dino Bravo, The Ultimate Warrior, "Ravishing" Rick Rude, "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, Mean Gene Okerlund, Howard Finkel, Joey Marella
Jesus, what other sports or entertainment event from 1990 could have a list like that 30 years later
Sad to say but that list could make a great ppv card.
RIP Philadelphia Spectrum (1967-2011)
3:57 start.
Duggan's clothesline did not miss. I just watched it twice. Friggin Meltzer.
Love how The Big Bossman had so much to do on this PPV he was my childhood favourite and is still in my top 5 favourites of all time ,he was awesome and a damn great guy on all accounts too.
1:14:30 Brutus and Hogan never won the WWF tag team titles. They waved the belts around at Wrestlemania IX but actually lost that match via DQ.
That's what I thought.😂
One of my favorite PPVs from my childhood for these reasons:
1) Hogan returned after the Earthquake attack. I got so sucked into that angle, it was crazy.
2) Harts Vs. Demolition = The match that made me fall in love with tag team wrestling as an artform
3) The angle with Sapphire = Say what you will, but as a kid, I dug it and when DiBiase revealed what he did, I just grew to love to hate him even more, lol.
@Vincent Verona I'm with you Bruh 120%!
I agree too. This is one of my favorite PPVs of all time. I was 7 when it happened. It was also one of the first Coliseum videos I owned as a kid. I couldnt even begin to count how many times I've watched this. Love the whole thing.
The Demolition, Hart Foundation tag team match is one of my favorite tag matches ever. It told a great story and was action packed the whole match. Smash took all of big bumps in this one, go back and watch. Barry Darsow is such an underrated wrestler.
A couple of things-
1. Piper never even tried to put himself over. At the beginning of Summerslam the whole crowd was chanting for Roddy and he didn't have to do a thing to get that response.
2. Piper was not a baby face announcer at this event. He did cheer the babyfaces but at times put the heels like Power and Glory over. He pointed out how stupid it was for Hogan to try to slam Earthquake. He was more if a tweener which was interesting.
Indeed. To add, he also seemingly was pro-Rude, or definitely put Rude over, in spite of their animosity towards each other (storyline). He even picked Rude to win.
The brother love segment with sgt slaughter for me was one of the highlights of summerslam 90.
It's one of my favourite events, summerslam 90 period
THIS IS THE LAST WWF PPV WHERE THEY USED THE "HOT LIGHTS" THE BRIGHTER YELLOWING TINT LIGHTS THAT GAVE WWF SUCH A GREAT LOOK BACK IN THE DAY, IT WOULD BE REPLACED WITH A MORE SUBDUED FLORESCENT LIGHTING STARTING WITH THE 1990 SURVIVOR SERIES, WHICH GAVE A MORE CAVERNOUS FEEL. THIS PPV WAS GREAT....AS WARRIOR SAID.. A DING DONG...
Oh my god. You just made me notice something that subconsciously I always noticed but never could explain. You're freaking right!
The shows WERE lit different after this! And they looked like #$#%^. Before everyone glowed. Then they became, kind of, shadowy.
Business being down or not, these years captured a new generation that, long term, were the main audience of the attitude era.
First time I ever attended any kind of sporting event was summer slam 1990, can’t wait to hear this
Would love to interview you
When did Beefcake win the titles with Hogan? The match with Money Inc at Wrestlemania IX had a DQ finish.
Never
Dude I just said the same thing
House show.....
Switched back next night at another house show
It's MARKED UNOFFICIAL
@@keithcrockett7838 never happened bro
I was in attendance for this show... my first and only wwf pay-per-view and that place rocked when Piper came out for commentary as he had been gone since wm6. I think my fondest memory is Kerry Von Erich winning the Intercontinental title as two title changes on one card had never happened b4
Yea it did; WM V, Rude beat Warrior for the IC title; Hogan beat Macho for the World title.
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Bruce should’ve taken a nap before recording this.
About the Sgt Slaughter heel turn: I always remember Pro Wrestling Illustrated (or one of the spin-offs mags) making up a story that went something like "Sgt. Slaughter forgives Nikolai Volkoff"...I thought it was funny that this story came out on the new-stands while at the same time Sgt. Slaughter was shown re-debuting on WWF TV totally trashing Nikolia...Me and my friends were all wondering how PWI was gonna walk their fake story back...Sure enough, PWI subsequently did an "interview" with The Sarge where he laughs at PWI and said he lied to PWI and was merely testing everyone to see how gullible the public had become before returning to the WWF...Hilarious, Only in wrestling LOL
This had to be so exciting if you grew up and are from Philadelphia! First ever ppv at the old Spectrum.
Great time for wrestling exciting story line with hogan and earthquake and saphire turing shady on big dust .
I can imagine how excited kids my age at the time i was 12 and learning that this summerslam was coming to you're hometown Philadelphia (Spectrum)
I would love to hear you're memories.
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This was onenot my favorite years to watch. Sucks they were down from 89 and again in 91.
91 I thought was another great year. Royal rumble was awesome. Mania too and summerslam.
I love watching these old tapes. Sad but happy same time. Least it happens than never at all
I didn't know they were down in 89, it seemed hot. I LOVED 89. 91 Rumble was awesome; one of most underrated PPV's.
GCW Roddy Piper on color commentary was GOLD, WWF Roddy Piper on color was a little over the top & goofy at times
Losing Ventura around this time in the summer of 90 sucked. Even though of course I hated the Heels as a kid back then I always loved Jesse.
I didn’t know about that pilot (Tag Team) him and Piper did also in 1990 till a year or so ago and there is surviving footage of that one episode in pretty shitty quality but it’s worth it to try and check that out for a big laugh.
No need to humanize Warrior, thats not why he was popular and captivated audiences in the first place.
53:10 That "crazy character" and the face paint are exactly what everyone loved about Ultimate Warrior. I hated the "kid-friendly" version with less face paint. Bruce is way off base when he says fans weren't relating to Warrior. Warrior got over HUGE just by being himself.
Bruce cannot get over his dislike of the man. And that's sad. All of us, or most, enjoyed the Warrior as kids and we didn't care that he didn't do armdrags in the 2nd match or have Iron Man matches.
@@basedelon Well said. Isn't it ironic that Warrior's match with HHH at Wrestlemania XII (which was under 2 minutes) was much more exciting than the highly touted "masterpiece" of an Iron Man match between Bret/Shawn?
@@Dizzy1980 Agreed. Bret-Shawn could have been way better than it was. We're talking about today. Will anyone be talking about some jackoff like Finn Balor or Dean Ambrose in 20 years? No.
Fully agree! I didn't want a watered down version.
unfortunately the numbers don't lie and his explanation that making Warrior the tippy top guy didn't lead to any growth for the company or his personal fanbase is 100% factual
this is one of my first PPVs as a kid. i was 7 years old. i remember seeing Bret and knew instantly he was going to be a star.
I'm with you Moore Kuts. I was 7 as well. I remember watching this with my dad live and this was also one of my first Coliseum videos I owned too. Great memories of watching wrestling with dad. Im so glad he got me into it at a very early age.
So I’ve counted 21 dead wwf talents on this event. Such a great loss.
I don't know if Conrad watched this or not because he says Rude shaved his moustache , which he did not. The other thing is Prichard keeps talking about Slaughter coming back to do the Iraqi angle, but he Iraq didn't even invade Quwait until after his vignettes had been shot .
Rude had cut his hair. Not his mustache though
He definitely was doing pro-Iraq interviews around the time, but when had the vignettes been shot?
@@ericjackson7632 His vignette's coming back into the company started airing around the time Iraq invaded so they were obviously shot several weeks earlier. So the notion he was brought back with the iraq gimmick in mind is false. i have all the prime time wrestling from that time period it just seems very out of left field when he is put agains the Warrior because up until then he was totally in the lower mid card.
@@eabcool I was a child at the time so fron my memory Iraq wasn't a thing until the Fall. Either way Im more likely to go with what you are saying because it didn't seem like it was hot enough to have Slaughter main eventing, but who knows. He was a top guy prior and the idea of Mr. GI Joe turning on his country does seem big. Perhaps the Nikolai feud was just for someone to feed him and get wins over early on.
Slaughter has said in interviews that Vince brought brought him in for the angle… said his selling point was headlining LA with over 100,000 ppl as the ex GI Joe Slaughter turned Iraqi sympathizer vs All American Hogan
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More Ads than show
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1:51:50 Well Conrad, probably because you can't freakin' stop talking about Meltzer even though he's wrong a lot of the time!
I'm a member of FDM club, but it's part of the structure of the show. Right or wrong, it's always been a popular read amongst wrestling fans, and there's not many options to pull from.
1:50:32 Thank you so damn much Bruce for finally FINALLY putting Conrad, Dave and all of them IN THEIR PLACE there. Tired, drunk or not, Bruce finally said it like it needed to be said and has been probably the best moment on the show I've heard in a while. Only watch the show for Bruce's "sole" part in it, but putting up with Conrad's annoying Meltzer mentions, moot point money/ticket/ppv buys/ratings/Batista's Dick . . . (silence) mentions, not to mention his "HARH HARH HARH HARH HARH HARH" laugh . . . . its been (like Bruce commonly says) like pulling freaking teeth haha.
@@rockstarbd82 Agree on everything except ppv buys/tickets. I do appreciate knowing things like that. However, that Batista's dick bullshit wasn't funny the first time, and it's even worse each successive time.
17:35 Call it hokey all you want Conrad, but Sgt Slaughter had NUCLEAR heat in 1990-1991. He wasn't the best wrestler, but Slaughter was a believably monster heel.
Hercules was great, criminally underrated literally everything you could want in a pro wrestler so Meltzer is way off base, no surprise there.
SummerSlam 90 was a step back from SummerSlam 89
89 was soo underrated!! The kickoff match heart foundation vs brain busters a great technical match threw out of the four fantastic wrestlers!! Sorry ( anvil) 😅
Superfly returns to his first ppv since wrestlemania 1 the Zeus macho man vs hogan storyline was awesome at the time I was kid .
I remember how big the Meadowlands arena looked on t.v as a kid a electric atmosphere I was 12 life was great !
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To me, the Warrior/Rude feud in 1990 was EXTREMELY redundant and overly familiar. Their stellar feud throughout 1989 just couldn't be followed.
Yup. Which is why Warrior's reign as champion was flat. We had been down the Rude route. When Hogan was champ he did not go back to feuding with Andre or Savage. HE MOVED ON.
yea I agree. Plus there was no real heat to that whole 2nd run, too. We just had Rude training and then the matches.
@@cpaman28 Yep. When Rude bashed Warrior at Royal Rumble 1989, and then Bobby Heenan cheated at Wrestlemania V, that was all the heat they needed to carry them through almost an entire year of matches.
@Bryan Mack I know Warrior wasn't as big as Hogan. My point is Hogan and Andre feud ended SummerSlam 88. Hogan never went back to him. Warrior and Rude ended at SummerSlam 89. Warrior and Rude moved on. But after winning the title he went right back to Rude.
I really wish they did a program with Hogan and Rude. I like Hogan. At the time, i loved Hogan. But i cant help but believe Hogan saw “too much” in Rude and was scared to work with him cuz he (Rude) might garner too much heat!
YES, THANK YOU BRUCE, & CONRAD SOOOOOO MUCH FOR "FINALLY" "FINALLY" after all these years, putting out on the GREATEST INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPION IN WWF(FUCK E) HISTORY....Wayne "Honky Tonk Man" Ferris! I CANNOT BELIEVE IT TOOK THIS LONG!
Nice to have a little bit of wrestling talk to go along with 2 hours of ADS
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Thank You for doing a HTM episode!!!! I'm super exited about it.
@blacksixspeed No no, I have seen hours of his shoots, including his 3 hour one on TH-cam. I mean that after seeing all the shoots I wanna see what Bruce can add on. Bad wording on my part, I didn't mean I wasn't exited, I meant I wanna hear something I didn't already know.
Bruce dodging that question about Rude maybe main eventing Mania with Hogan was funny. I get why the went Rude against Warrior at Summerslam. That's no reason why Rude couldn't have taken Slaughter's place and feuded with Hogan at Mania. Anything would have been better than what we got.
Damnit...Now, I gotta go watch this show! 😎
One of the best summer slam warrior feel the power
Warrior had the belt taken off him because of the Gulf War, otherwise he'd have had it until Mania or beyond. There's too much bullshit about Warrior not being able to carry the ball. Just because business is not at a historical peak, doesn't mean you've failed. Vince just wanted to exploit the war. Warrior and Savage had the last laugh at 7 though.
Hogan would've let Rick Rude 'sample his thrills' if Rude wanted Linda brother.
You wanted me to sample those thrills terry!
Can someone please explain why Piper completely shit on Warrior on cometary when they were trying to get him over as the top guy
Probably just being spiteful to Vince. He was taking over for Jesse in Color commentary. In his own words on an interview, “ I don’t want to do it. It’s for old washed-up wrestlers.”
1:59:11 Andre the Giant was WWF World champion for a few minutes, so technically Heenan did manage a WWF World titleholder.
Actually at that point Heenan had (storyline) sold Andre's contract to DiBiase so technically Heenan wasn't managing Andre for those few seconds he was champ.
@@freemind6954 Meh, Heenan still accompanied Andre to the ring every single time, before, during, and after Andre's brief WWF title reign. In fact, this exact issue came up in the commentary for Survivor Series 1988. Gorilla remarked that Heenan had never managed a champion, and Jesse retorted "what are you talking about? Andre held the title!"
Hernan managed Flair during a title run after Total Rumble ‘92
@@jonfranks6902 "Hernan" barely ever appeared in the corner of Flair, and he was never referred to as Flair's full-blown manager. Even Mr. Perfect, who actually accompanied Flair to ringside, was dubbed Flair's "executive consultant".
Thank god bruce has finally gotten sick of Conrad and his dave love , glad to hear .
Haha he's been tired of that from day one
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This was my first ppv, I was 8 and it was awesome
What we learn here is that it wasn't that Warrior wasn't working - Bruce clearly states that the idea was for Hogan to main event against a heel at WM7 from the beginning. So they never pushed Warrior. Logically, it should've been Warrior/Taker or Warrior/Savage at WM7.
WM7 is a bit early for taker even though he did get to the top very fast.
I know it was unheard of to do the multiway matches at the time (and warrior/savage on its own did work so it could have still existed seperately) but imagine their massive coliseum show for WM7 working because you get either -- champion warrior v hogan v savage v earthquake v rude v (I guess you could still do slaughter and have even other bad guys like rude be against his antics, slaughter vs the world type thing, or i guess this could be taker or even iron sheik maybe, idk someone to make it a 6 way but obv this last person isn't a main player)
or savage/warrior stays separate and heel champ rude (won it exactly how slaughter did at rumble) v hogan v quake (and probably vs a 4th but even a 3 way does the huge odds against hogan thing again that they always liked).
I feel like those create a lot more spectacle and tie many existing issues together more than making a military conflict into a wrestling angle with a main player being a guy we hadnt hardly seen in 7+ years.
1:07:55 Roddy Piper probably had the Dancing In The Street charity video from 1985 in mind rather than Ziggy Stardust and Jumping Jack Flash when he made his "Bowie & Jagger" comments.
Those whelps on Earthquake’s back from Boss Man hitting him with a stepladder three times…OUCH!!!
Did they not gimmick the ladder or did Boss Man not grab the right “tool” for the job?
I wonder if that caused some hard feelings.
I love this PPV but as a kid it was the first time I realized wrestling might not be as real as I thought. I just remembered thinking how can Hogen survive two splashes from the Earthquake when just a few months ago one splash put Hogen in the hospital?
I still refer to it as the moment Hulk Hogen ruined my childhood.
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Every era had a peak. Austin’s bad idea wanting to turn heel ended the attitude era at Mania 17. I think the golden era ended when Hulk was beat cleanly by warrior. There really wasn’t a big match left after that and it showed during Warrior’s reign. Hogan already cleared out the whole heel factory.
Just watched the Perfect/Tornado match! I still find it to be a great great match!!!
The finish was great: slingshot to the corner post, the claw, then the 🌪 punch for the win!
OK. Kid
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Especially tornado having one leg 😅 and it being on such short notice.i agree 👍
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19:00 There were a couple of Hogan-Rude house show main event World title matches in Jan '88, just before Hogan's title loss to Andre.
I fuk with this podcast straight up Conrad From Huntsville 💪🏽 Representing Alabama (256)💯
I loved Summerslam 1990. I agree with Bruce and Conrad, I would put this at a 7.5 maybe 8. Bruce was a great tv character as Brother Love. I loved the steel cage match. I thought Bobby Heenan would succedd and finally have a family member win the WWF Championship.
Hogan didn’t wanna work with Rude because he thought he was like a Tasmanian devil. Bruce yet AGAIN lying and leaving stuff out.
He’s a great wrestling mind but not everything he did is everyone else’s fault. If he’s gonna be so defensive and secretive don’t do the show. Remember this is the same guy that tries to still defend the Red Rooster gimmick
Best part of the show is at 1:20:37!! As Conrad says “roll the credits we”re not beating that”
Ain't no what if. Rude and Hogan would've been gold. Missed opportunity at money.
Meltzer again talking crap about Warlord and Daggan, 2 great wrestlers. Id take those two over two random no selling flipping midgets anyday.
C’mon Bruce, you know what Meltzer meant when calling the Hart Foundation’s ring gear “gay”.
Saphire siding with DiBiase was fucking heartbreaking
Hard as he tried Piper could never get Virgil over. "Cmon VIRGIL, GET UP!!!"
The truth is that tugboat never got over. Nobody cared about him. Tugboat only got over when he became typhoon. Having big boss man there made more sense because he was over and on the rise. I like rick rude but he and hogan would not been a good match. I don't know why Conrad is so obsessed with that.
Right… I could see if they used Boss Man and had him turn on Hogan… coulda been the WM7 main event
Power and Glory were over. I'll always be a big fan.
Show should be called something to advertise with Bruce Pritchard.
1:45:00 On that write ion campaign Come Back Hulk. I wrote Stay Gone Hulk!!
Warrior got old feuds (Savage, Rude) unlike Hogan who always got the fresh awesome heel. Don't get me wrong Savage and Rude are one of the best but Warrior already had his Feuds with those guys so his Championship run wasn't given the full opportunity it should have had in my opinion!!!
No one ever mentions how fast Kerry Von Erich changed his ring gear between his interview and his entrance.. Lol..
I know the interview was pre taped, I just find it hilarious that no one ever noticed this..
He ripped of Hogan who changed championship belts on the way to the ring on The Main Event in February 1988.
It's hilarious that Bruce will never admit any mistakes ever. The Warrior was a mistake, end of story.
I’m completely unsatisfied with literally all of Bruce’s answers. Seems like he is still scared to tell the whole truth about anything.
He was sulky the whole show. Could've been much better
i think he was uh. not sober lol
brutus roxy He’s in WWE now
Was The Big Bossman injured here? He referees Jake vs Bad News and is in Hogans corner against Earthquake but not in a match. I also read he was supposed to be against The Million Dollar Man at Summerslam 90 does anyone know if thats true? Was the match announced on WWF television and then pulled?
Warrior and rude work great together since wccw
I was a huge fan in the early nineties and lost interest after attitude era ended. Women's wrestling got me back into the WWE. Smackdown has 3 amazing female wrestlers in Bayley, Sascha Banks, and Alexa Bliss. What do you think of building a stable (the four horsewomen, needs a better name and can't see Charlotte Flair as ringleader.) consisting of these 3 and Mandy Rose with Alexa bringing in Bray Wyatt and Mandy bringing in Otis to develop a storyline that causes Otis to cash in his money in the bank against Bray.
imagine how good of shape the show would be if the women were actually as good as marketed and they didnt just botch out every match and cry every loss. sasha banks is my favorite person in wwe it just sucks the womens wrestling is still bad and graded on a scale. the marketing makes ppl take it seriously at least
Lol @ the Luger comment.
I know you Bruce wasn't watching NWA/WCW at that point all that much, but Luger was red-hot in the ring from 88-91, and having great matches even with washed up Tommy Rich & Dan Spivey.
I agree with you. I was shocked when he said that about Luger in that time frame. Luger was like the number 3 guy back then behind Sting and Flair, that's my opinion, but I was also a child back then when I watched NWA/WCW, USWA, WWF etc. What is your opinion on Luger's place in the company at the time? Because I definitely agree with you, he was red hot back then
Why does Conrad keep asking about Hogan and Rude? Several previous times on this show it's been stated that Hogan didn't like or trust Rude and wouldn't work with him. The reason? Rude wouldn't kiss his ass and stood up to him.
My theory is probably after that one match they had against each other in the Boston Garden in early 1988, where Rude -to me - kinda stiff Hogan with a shot to the head with the wooden chair, Hogan said, “Nah, I’m good.”
40 adverts in a row in the first half an hour ...makes it unwatchable..I wouldn't even put upnwith that for wrestlemania nevermind this
Bruce Prichard said it, best at 28:28...
I worry about Conrad sometime; with each passing episode he's sounding more and more like the human avatar of COPD and sleep apnea...
Was really looking forward to this one but very disappointed with an unenthusiastic Bruce. Highlight of the show was when Bruce loosened up for 10 seconds with a Dusty impersonation. 2 hours is a terrible effort for such a great PPV. Bruce jobbed out on this one.
he was either extremely tired or not sober lol
@@KaloKross Yeah probably tired. But don't do the show if you're not up to it. Felt like Conrad did all the heavy lifting here.
@@jadegnr7624 shut up and take it jade
@@Super122291 How juvenile 😂
“Look at me...I won this match!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
1:27:45 I always found it absurd listening to Vince Mcmahon claim that Smash and Ax looked so much alike... they don't look anything alike! What a lame angle. That Ax/Smash/Crush pre-match promo was entertaining though... "Maybe it's me with Ax... or maybe it's me with Smash!"
@Chris Terry You better believe it!
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All the bullshit talking beforehand I hate .
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Warrior and rude feud could have went well into January, savage crowns warrior , rude is champ there you go wm7 hogan vs rude hogan goes over
Conrad says the claw is one of the worst wrestling moves of all yet he "pops" for a crotch flip.
"You say dumb stuff too!" - Cable news logic
Do you think Von Ecic lost a step? He lost 1/2 of is F’n foot!!! Who wouldn’t 🙄🙄🙄
Power and Glory was pretty cool.... I’ll tell you the tag team that didn’t age well, Pride and Prejudice
I remember i was at the house show the night before this ppv at the Niagara falls civic and convention center.
The main event was Hulk Hogan Vs Dino Bravo bossman in hogans corner and earthquake in bravos corner .
Hogan never appeared at house shows in Niagara falls or ( Buffalo Ny)
For that matter .
The Niagara falls civic and convention center was just a small little unique ( egg soup can ) shapped civic center which is now unfortunately
( Casino Niagara) i remember the pop from the crowd when hulk hogans entrance music hit the place went crazy!!!!
It was a great card in general the heart foundation wrestled power and glory .
Bad news brown faced jake the snake bad news came to the ring with a cage covered thinking they were harlem sewer rats 😅😅
Mr perfect wrestled I remember there were however a couple jobbers however pez whatley wrestled the warlord
Black bart wrestled tito santana i think ? There was a big water park named Niagara spash located right next to the Niagara falls civic and convention center.
We spent the afternoon at the waterpark went to the car to change and dry off then went into the civic center to watch the matches.
One of the best childhood memories at 12 years old .
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Kenny Olivier made it onto the thunderdome
It's Akeem! The African Dream :D
1:21:00 "Where you at? Bitch?" - oh my God, I laughed.
Bruce has the nerve to call Roddy and Jesses show A little hokey?? Everything you write is hokey Bruce!!
the economic recession of 1990 hit middle-class, lower middle class, and working poor families very hard. those families did not have money to spend on wrestling like they did when the economy was at its peak in 1987.
If I want to send a question for a particular episode where exactly do I send it to ?
1:27:33-if you watched Darkside of the Ring, you would know that Bruce lied to us about Montreal!
First PPV without Andre, Last PPV Before Undertaker
Okay wait, Bruce is always putting himself over for every next big thing (now The Undertaker) in WWE, so I'm wondering, then why does he keep getting fired lol
3:03 sure you didnt Conrad 😂 😅 look at you !!! You are not missing meals 😅
Beefcake never won the tag titles with Hogan.. how can I prove correct you on that?!?;?