Used my Double Black 16mm for the first time yesterday. Without a doubt it provided an increase in playability with better control and spin. While this is considered the better control paddle i felt like it had very good power as well. Saw improved kitchen play as well. Six Zero has created a great product here!
Legacy pro is hotter and harder to control , legacy and black Diamond are comparable for power. Double black is more control less pop, legacy is the top dog in spin.
@@gao57009 That has been the only thing i've been playing lately, love the feedback for the DBD and it still has pop and feels like it just grabs the ball when you hit it.
@@ThePickleballPirates Would you rate it superior to the Pro Drive for both control and power or maybe not quite as much power? I was considering buying the Pro-Drive, but now based on your review, I am looking at the DBD.
@@gao57009 I cannot speak about the pro drive as i haven't played it yet, what i can say is that Toray Carbon Fiber is the best quality out there, this paddle takes 2 weeks to break in. For $162 i think it's worth it given the purchase from Australia. Right now it's my go to paddle when i'm playing for money!! I'm actually going to try and figure out the BD because its ridiculous for power and for singles there isn't anything out there like it, maybe the Selkirk Power air, but this has a huge sweet spot for a power paddle.
You recently reviewed the Veloz Ellipse paddle. I am curious about how you would compare the Black Diamond to the Ellipse in terms of control and power given that both have a type of carbon wrap technology. Also, how would you compare to the Pro-Drive in terms of power and control?
I played with the pro drive today and I thought it played well and has a solid core , not as much spin as some of these other brands but love the color and it’s got a large sweet spot.
@@ThePickleballPirates I like spin, followed by power, then control. David's review sounded like really good spin and really good power, but with 16mm control v. something thin like the pro 2 or something really heavy like the joola. With discount code, this is only a little more than the halo, but sounds like it offers more.
@@gao57009 I think it Dora’s actually unless you can find something different online. Also will be releasing some microscope pictures of different paddles and doing that on every review moving forward
I don't believe you mentioned that the paddles have foam injection on the perimeter like the Joola Hyperion. From the Six Zero website: "Foam injection followed by a light-weight carbon seam fusing the top and bottom faces of the paddle results in a tighter crisp feel and an increased sweet spot that radiates around the paddle perimeter. "
Reading SixZero Pickleball's site it says that the "Double Black Diamond" utilizes nano Toray, however on the "Black Diamond" page it just says composite surface. Does that mean the Black Diamond doesn't use raw carbon fiber?
Black Diamond does not use carbon fiber. Whether the composite is better than carbon fiber? Play with both and see. I always get worried when they mention "permanent" "amazing" spin. That would be great if the face doesn't wear for spin. Would be interesting to get the spin test and a retest 6 months later.
Thank you for the information, but if I may offer some hopefully constructive comments, your presentation was somewhat disorganized, and I found it difficult at times to determine whether you were talking about the black diamond or the double black diamond paddle.
Did everyone who claim they bought a paddle buy at the exchange rate provided by sixzero? The rate is ridiculous. AUD225 is equivalent to USD180? So you should always opt to pay in Australian dollars.
Used my Double Black 16mm for the first time yesterday. Without a doubt it provided an increase in playability with better control and spin. While this is considered the better control paddle i felt like it had very good power as well. Saw improved kitchen play as well. Six Zero has created a great product here!
One of my favorite paddles to play for sure!!
thanks for the review and discount code
Huge fan of the Double Black Diamond. The feedback when you hit the ball is much better than other carbon fiber faced options imo.
Hi Keith! How do you compare the 6-0 Double Black Diamond with the Legacy Pro? I hesitate between the these two models. Thanks
Legacy pro is hotter and harder to control , legacy and black Diamond are comparable for power. Double black is more control less pop, legacy is the top dog in spin.
Thanks for the review. I placed my order! The DBD sounds like the perfect paddle for me.
Glad I could help!
Let us know your opinion of the DBD after you play with it.
@@gao57009 That has been the only thing i've been playing lately, love the feedback for the DBD and it still has pop and feels like it just grabs the ball when you hit it.
@@ThePickleballPirates Would you rate it superior to the Pro Drive for both control and power or maybe not quite as much power? I was considering buying the Pro-Drive, but now based on your review, I am looking at the DBD.
@@gao57009 I cannot speak about the pro drive as i haven't played it yet, what i can say is that Toray Carbon Fiber is the best quality out there, this paddle takes 2 weeks to break in. For $162 i think it's worth it given the purchase from Australia. Right now it's my go to paddle when i'm playing for money!! I'm actually going to try and figure out the BD because its ridiculous for power and for singles there isn't anything out there like it, maybe the Selkirk Power air, but this has a huge sweet spot for a power paddle.
More news about the Six Zero Black Diamond paddles: The warranty period was increased from 4 months to 6 months.
The owner is a stand up guy and has spent a lot of time and money to come up with a high quality paddle.
Does the double black diamond 16mm play like crbn 2x 16mm?
Love the video! Does the BD feel out of control compared to Crbn 1X?
No they are comparable in control for a power paddle it’s one of the best IMHO.
Thank you brother! Would you say it’s more powerful than the 14mm Crbn x?
@@samborthwick8861 ohh now that is hard but I think it does honestly.
You recently reviewed the Veloz Ellipse paddle. I am curious about how you would compare the Black Diamond to the Ellipse in terms of control and power given that both have a type of carbon wrap technology.
Also, how would you compare to the Pro-Drive in terms of power and control?
I played with the pro drive today and I thought it played well and has a solid core , not as much spin as some of these other brands but love the color and it’s got a large sweet spot.
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Ordered the Black Diamond and it was shipped on Monday. Cant wait to receive it. Thank you for the discount code.
You won’t be disappointed it’s the first paddle I’m grabbing lately and it’s gets better about two weeks in when the material settles.
@@ThePickleballPirates i’ve been looking for a paddle with a bit more power with sacrificing a ton of control….hope i found the one. Thanks again!
Are you referring t the double black diamond?
@@gao57009 i ordered the regular Black Diamond
@@evanc1974 regular black is like lightning, give yourself 2 weeks unless you are playing an engage , onix, Selkirk power air or gearbox power.
for your money... sub-$200, what order would you rank these?... Joola CFS 16mm, Electrum Pro 2, CRBN, Black Diamond, SLK Halo, ProDrive
Ranked by what first? Control or spin or power?
@@ThePickleballPirates I like spin, followed by power, then control. David's review sounded like really good spin and really good power, but with 16mm control v. something thin like the pro 2 or something really heavy like the joola. With discount code, this is only a little more than the halo, but sounds like it offers more.
@@sg19579 this paddle has a bit more pop than my Selkirk Invikta project 003
@@sg19579 more balanced than joola less head heavy!!
Double Diamond is 14mm not 16…
There is Double Black Diamond 14mm too. You can watch 14mm review here: th-cam.com/video/SdEPbFrIFek/w-d-xo.html
@@ThePickleballPirates info and link is very much appreciated! Thanks!
Legacy also uses Toray carbon fiber.
Nice then they are the 4th company I know about. Should move them up the endurance list for sure
Yeah way more than 2 companies use t700. Including gruvn and slk paddles you carry.
@@connelldan9 yeah I meant to say 5 but I think it’s way more than that even now, all of them are going that way.
T 700 doesn't necessarily mean Toray T700
@@gao57009 I think it Dora’s actually unless you can find something different online. Also will be releasing some microscope pictures of different paddles and doing that on every review moving forward
Did you prefer the double black diamond or the CRBN 1X 16mm ? Balanced approach is what I want.
Double black is my favorite but they are super close.
I don't believe you mentioned that the paddles have foam injection on the perimeter like the Joola Hyperion. From the Six Zero website: "Foam injection followed by a light-weight carbon seam fusing the top and bottom faces of the paddle results in a tighter crisp feel and an increased sweet spot that radiates around the paddle perimeter. "
Yes sorry it does have the foam injection around the edges and thermal forming
Reading SixZero Pickleball's site it says that the "Double Black Diamond" utilizes nano Toray, however on the "Black Diamond" page it just says composite surface. Does that mean the Black Diamond doesn't use raw carbon fiber?
The Black Diamond (power model) has a propriety World first raw composite material manufactured by Toray Japan
Black Diamond does not use carbon fiber. Whether the composite is better than carbon fiber? Play with both and see. I always get worried when they mention "permanent" "amazing" spin. That would be great if the face doesn't wear for spin. Would be interesting to get the spin test and a retest 6 months later.
@@jbomx it’s part fiberglass, the double black is the raw composite one.
@@ThePickleballPirates black diamond shows as composite, double black is carbon.
All T700 isn't the same. There are different grades of T700.
This one has the Toray Japanese carbon fiber
Thank you for the information, but if I may offer some hopefully constructive comments, your presentation was somewhat disorganized, and I found it difficult at times to determine whether you were talking about the black diamond or the double black diamond paddle.
Did everyone who claim they bought a paddle buy at the exchange rate provided by sixzero? The rate is ridiculous. AUD225 is equivalent to USD180? So you should always opt to pay in Australian dollars.
And with our discount that makes it 162
@@ThePickleballPiratespaying in AUD with a decent exchange rate should get us to around usd160. That's before your discount.
@@thealchemists Very smart
@@thealchemistsany idea how to force the payment to be AUD? Site keeps converting it back to USD at checkout.
@@dtruong25 I couldn't do it either....so the shipping isn't free. It's all factored into the unfavourable exchange rate.