"Ah Conclave, you've really left a mess... I understand the minute details of your plan may not need to be carried out to the letter, but letting Zato run free is just... sloppy. I'll have to dispose of him next."
@@KingAfrica4 2:50 I'm just trying to figure out what purpose it serves. Seems like the meter isn't gaining. The only thing that comes into my mind is attacking someone mentally.
@@firetoofan5555 every special move builds meter so he's actually gaining some. Also it can serve as a framekill to perfectly time a meaty or setup as soon as the opponent unslumps
@@Cerbyo I don’t usually go this far but Leffen would be a great comedian if he really thinks that. 🤡 While he still mightn’t be good he did *not* get nerfed this patch.
@@mattsandvig7868well for characters like zato,happy chaos, millia etc u can say having hkd after wall break is much more important than other characters so I see his point. He might be over exaggerating but I’m not a pro player nor am I a zato player so I couldn’t tell u but I’m pretty sure as zato u don’t wanna be in neutral that often and risk eddy getting hit n being down for 6 secs.
Hot take, playing HC made Leffen worse as a player. He's out here making weird decisions at weird times when he objectively shouldn't be pressing buttons, times he would normally just shoot the gun and get instant hot and ready out of the oven one frame counter hits. 3:55 the man just refused to not summon eddy on clashes or from unsafe times in neutral the whole damn round and got stuffed because he couldn't ever use eddy.
@JohnnyGuiltyMan so ppl hate the guy because he plays HC n some hate him because he has opinions, I'm just like you bro idk why n where the hate comes from
@@JohnnyGuiltyManIt's mainly his notoriety from Melee. Leffen's probably more relaxed now?? (I'm not caught up with recent stuff) It's just that he was famous back then for being extremely toxic. How much of this transfers to GGST? Idk, but Leffen's well-known enough in the FGC so there's that.
@@JohnnyGuiltyMan He's kinda the epitome of the "e-sports douchebag" archetype (minus the bad hygiene) he's a huge asshole, whines a lot whenever he loses and tries to blame external factors, and is overall just not super pleasant personality-wise. He also downplays the hell out of Happy Chaos (or whoever he mains depending on the game) and is known for requesting nonsensical balance/rule changes (like limiting the amount of air time for Jigglypuff in Smash melee for example)
I'm gonna be real, I don't understand the Zato doomer mindset anymore. Eddie is virtually burst immune now. (Unless you burst at the end of a combo, but why would you ever do that). The eddie speed buff also makes his pressure and combos even more consistent. Along with the teleport? Insane. If Eddie gets hit, sure, thats bad, but also if Eddie gets hit... Its probably your fault. Hot take, at this point it just sounds like the Zatobros wanna be carried 💀
You really think those minuscule changes are enough? People know what the full power character played like so of course people are adamant about using a toilet paper character. That’s the thing about puppet characters they’re super hard to get right and time and time again when they’re hit because they’re too powerful the patch is heavy handed.
"Burst immune" lmao. Holding burst (when you can) is a pretty common strategy against resource characters, because you're trying to get them to dump as much of their resource as you can so your post-burst situation is better. Against Zato it's way better because it kills Eddie outright even if he didn't spend the entire gauge, and even if Zato baited your burst and blocked it, which makes no sense. It's not as bad as it was before but when he's still the worst character in the game, no, it's not good enough.
@@SuperPsaroBros Idk. I play the character myself and think the difference is much more noticeable. Plus, bursting at the end of a combo just to kill Eddie seems kinda insane considering Zato probably gets another punish for it, and you've likely already eaten all of the damage from the previous combo. Bursting early is pointless as well because Eddie will just be back immediately. The speed boosts allow for better conversions AND easy to set up sandwich situations that he didn't get before. As someone who has played the character before? I think people are going a little crazy thinking the buffs did NOTHING.
@@randommmwiththreeMs I also play the character. Trust me, I've noticed that it's better than it was, and no one is saying the buffs did "NOTHING." The buffs are all very nice. Zato is not the only character that was buffed though. Characters who were already ahead of him like Test, Bed, Johnny, Elphelt, Pot, etc. all also received very good buffs. Saying that he's still bottom 1 doesn't mean that he didn't get any stronger, it just means that everyone else around him also got better, and that he was starting from a point where he may as well not have been in the game last patch. That was a top player consensus, not propaganda from the secret Zato Illuminati. For one reason or another people hold burst all the time, either against a resource character, waiting for the burst-safe point and/or to deny wallbreak. What punish is Zato getting if you burst late? If you burst a guaranteed burst point there's obviously no punish. If you decide to burst when he can bait it, it still doesn't matter because burst kills Eddie on block anyway and Zato's reward when solo is insignificant without meter for Sun Void.
@@SuperPsaroBros well, that one I know. I just feel like in my mind, you can't be reckless with Eddie, but in return you get more suffocating offense and better reward from almost every hit. Plus, it's early, so I feel like it's a bit much to say he's STILL the worst. I could be proven wrong in the future, but I think he benefitted a lot from both his buffs and the universal changes as well. Compared to characters like Baiken who got shafted... I don't think he's the worst anymore.
"Ah Conclave, you've really left a mess... I understand the minute details of your plan may not need to be carried out to the letter, but letting Zato run free is just... sloppy. I'll have to dispose of him next."
no way Leffen hit the break the law teabag into lose the round true combo
Not really a teabag if it serves a purpose
@@KingAfrica4 2:50 I'm just trying to figure out what purpose it serves. Seems like the meter isn't gaining. The only thing that comes into my mind is attacking someone mentally.
@@firetoofan5555 every special move builds meter so he's actually gaining some. Also it can serve as a framekill to perfectly time a meaty or setup as soon as the opponent unslumps
@@KingAfrica4also he won that round
@@firetoofan5555A month late, but it looks like a framekill to me
THE BED WAS THE ACTUAL LAST DLC CHARACTER IN SEASON 3. Those buffs reaaallllyyyy helped him for combo potential.
Love me some bed gaming.
The great thing about Bedman is that he's a bed
Love to see Bedman mains finally getting a playable character after over a year!
I actually seen Leffen on Zato-1 in celestial yesterday.
Definitely playing Zato-1 after the buffs.
Leffen said Zato was overall nerfed this patch. I was hoping it was the opposite and he might swap back to zato main. oh well
@@Cerbyo I don’t usually go this far but Leffen would be a great comedian if he really thinks that. 🤡
While he still mightn’t be good he did *not* get nerfed this patch.
I can’t imagine how he’s be nerfed. Was hard knockdown wallbreak from WA really that good for Zato?
@@mattsandvig7868 It was a global nerf, not just Zato. Besides it’s not that hard to have at least 50% meter for a wall break…
@@mattsandvig7868well for characters like zato,happy chaos, millia etc u can say having hkd after wall break is much more important than other characters so I see his point. He might be over exaggerating but I’m not a pro player nor am I a zato player so I couldn’t tell u but I’m pretty sure as zato u don’t wanna be in neutral that often and risk eddy getting hit n being down for 6 secs.
Damn that bed is gaming
He was last week in a tourney in germany where he got 2nd Place he is cooking fr fr
Hot take, playing HC made Leffen worse as a player. He's out here making weird decisions at weird times when he objectively shouldn't be pressing buttons, times he would normally just shoot the gun and get instant hot and ready out of the oven one frame counter hits. 3:55 the man just refused to not summon eddy on clashes or from unsafe times in neutral the whole damn round and got stuffed because he couldn't ever use eddy.
Please give millia a chipotle (tm) burrito bowl as well as some buffs pls arcsis
No plz no, buffs yes but no BUFF
I can offer an happy meal
Bedman Stocks are at an absolute high rn
And I love it❤❤❤
Leffen getting fried makes me happy
Where does this animosity towards Leffen come from? Is he just a generally unpleasant guy?
@JohnnyGuiltyMan so ppl hate the guy because he plays HC n some hate him because he has opinions, I'm just like you bro idk why n where the hate comes from
@@sesshomarutomioka9220 I guess I should watch some of his videos and see for myself
@@JohnnyGuiltyManIt's mainly his notoriety from Melee. Leffen's probably more relaxed now?? (I'm not caught up with recent stuff) It's just that he was famous back then for being extremely toxic. How much of this transfers to GGST? Idk, but Leffen's well-known enough in the FGC so there's that.
@@JohnnyGuiltyMan He's kinda the epitome of the "e-sports douchebag" archetype (minus the bad hygiene) he's a huge asshole, whines a lot whenever he loses and tries to blame external factors, and is overall just not super pleasant personality-wise. He also downplays the hell out of Happy Chaos (or whoever he mains depending on the game) and is known for requesting nonsensical balance/rule changes (like limiting the amount of air time for Jigglypuff in Smash melee for example)
Leffen on Zato again, Umisho on Chaos again… this patch is goin crazy lmao
4:29 Le Bedman Bomber.
I like the style mechanical fellow
3:57 eddie was out literally for less than 60 frames total for the round, and had to recharge for about 1500 frames total. What a balanced character
That’s because Eddie kept dying, due to bad timing.
@@NoolaGaming-noolr and bad timings were due to the fact there were no good ones available
@@leqeque7383skill issue
@@leqeque7383Nah, that round was Leffen’s fault. His attacks got called out, and so they traded.
me when the snowball character is more susceptible to getting snowballed himself:
4:20 that wouldnt have been possible without the buffs
Bro they gave him more buffs but didnt fix eddie gauge they shoulve fixed base zato or given him a new move
3v3 chanel when ?
I guess when the full 3v3 release is out
Hell yeah, my favourite character beating the shit out of my least favourite pro player
Zatobros it's still over
Zagoat
They thought they could hide Blue Water Blue Sky from me?
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@@firetoofan5555 I’m not the brightest tool in the shed but I’m pretty cool right?
@@GokuGoku-mh9ob 👍
LET'S GO RESIL 🥳🥳🥳🥳
Ah, 0-3. Glorious to see
2:50 no way bro....
I think he was stalling for the Eddie gauge to fill up.
Teabagging was just for the funny tho
It’s Zatover for the assassins
Lmao 2:50 wtf was that
And Leffen almost lost the round because of this shit
I think it was either a misimput from playing on a new controller or he wanted the wall slump because he didn’t want to go back to neutral.
It was a wall slump setup to build meter because of course the king of wallslumps would
I'm gonna be real, I don't understand the Zato doomer mindset anymore. Eddie is virtually burst immune now. (Unless you burst at the end of a combo, but why would you ever do that). The eddie speed buff also makes his pressure and combos even more consistent. Along with the teleport? Insane.
If Eddie gets hit, sure, thats bad, but also if Eddie gets hit... Its probably your fault.
Hot take, at this point it just sounds like the Zatobros wanna be carried 💀
You really think those minuscule changes are enough? People know what the full power character played like so of course people are adamant about using a toilet paper character. That’s the thing about puppet characters they’re super hard to get right and time and time again when they’re hit because they’re too powerful the patch is heavy handed.
"Burst immune" lmao.
Holding burst (when you can) is a pretty common strategy against resource characters, because you're trying to get them to dump as much of their resource as you can so your post-burst situation is better. Against Zato it's way better because it kills Eddie outright even if he didn't spend the entire gauge, and even if Zato baited your burst and blocked it, which makes no sense. It's not as bad as it was before but when he's still the worst character in the game, no, it's not good enough.
@@SuperPsaroBros Idk. I play the character myself and think the difference is much more noticeable. Plus, bursting at the end of a combo just to kill Eddie seems kinda insane considering Zato probably gets another punish for it, and you've likely already eaten all of the damage from the previous combo. Bursting early is pointless as well because Eddie will just be back immediately. The speed boosts allow for better conversions AND easy to set up sandwich situations that he didn't get before. As someone who has played the character before? I think people are going a little crazy thinking the buffs did NOTHING.
@@randommmwiththreeMs I also play the character. Trust me, I've noticed that it's better than it was, and no one is saying the buffs did "NOTHING." The buffs are all very nice. Zato is not the only character that was buffed though. Characters who were already ahead of him like Test, Bed, Johnny, Elphelt, Pot, etc. all also received very good buffs. Saying that he's still bottom 1 doesn't mean that he didn't get any stronger, it just means that everyone else around him also got better, and that he was starting from a point where he may as well not have been in the game last patch. That was a top player consensus, not propaganda from the secret Zato Illuminati.
For one reason or another people hold burst all the time, either against a resource character, waiting for the burst-safe point and/or to deny wallbreak. What punish is Zato getting if you burst late? If you burst a guaranteed burst point there's obviously no punish. If you decide to burst when he can bait it, it still doesn't matter because burst kills Eddie on block anyway and Zato's reward when solo is insignificant without meter for Sun Void.
@@SuperPsaroBros well, that one I know. I just feel like in my mind, you can't be reckless with Eddie, but in return you get more suffocating offense and better reward from almost every hit. Plus, it's early, so I feel like it's a bit much to say he's STILL the worst. I could be proven wrong in the future, but I think he benefitted a lot from both his buffs and the universal changes as well. Compared to characters like Baiken who got shafted... I don't think he's the worst anymore.
To me Zato has just kinda lost that edge
Zato goat
Bed gaming
Big leff with the new meta evo 2025 zato sweep
idc what anyone says that bedman skin is an eyesore
I like it :D
I gotta agree. 🇺🇸
Sans underbed