I have never noticed that crouching disables Stamina recovery. I have several stealth-based characters who can literally move at full speed in stealth without effectively ever running out of Stamina. We're talking several minutes at least before I even notice a dent in the Stamina bar. As for toggle versus non-toggle: I always thought it was annoying having to spam the ability every 2.5 seconds to maintain invisibility. I've used my perma-stealth builds in Cyrodiil and have not noticed lag making any significant difference, but other people's mileage may vary. I'm fine with it being toggled Magicka-based stealth. I'll still be using Stamina-based stealth 90% of the time anyway.
I was hyped for T&L then I got to play it today on Ps5. Going from ESO to that is like going from driving a car to riding a children's tricycle. Nothing is as good as it seems, gaming is big business and these streamers/content creators are paid well to overhype a product. It's nothing but a FFXIV clone, and not a very good one either.
Now you will be able to toggle cloak, and spam syphon, and rally infinitely, and not have to constantly recloak after 3 secs. I think i will change how people fight in a 1v1 but I think ganking will be the same
With all these new MMO's coming to console they are becoming very aware that they might lose a sizeable chunk of their player base so they are finally...listening? 😮 I am both shocked and amazed.
They still cant activily be invicible like constantly reaplying stealth while in the middle of a moving horde of people, so trust me this will still make it harder to play bow blade unless you use stealth pot
I think it’s just stupid no need to change the skill at all , learn from wow or lord of the rings online there nightblades still hold there original cloak, 20 years and still strong
i assume this puts stamblade > magblade for bombing and ganking since you can still run stam skills and have recovery while your mags draining. maybe running mag food or max mag gear just to get your pool high enough to be useful?
So you are saying if they make streak cost more pvp issues are all solved? You should work for them, the problem in pvp was infront of us all this time, A kite stun 😅
@@Ho0pxr No i must be awake drinking my morning cup of coffee preparing for work unlike you waking up right now at this time when im about to go home 😅
@@stonic4467 it's not though lol it puts cloak on an equal playing field with other forms of evasion. Instead of a simple fix that makes sense (to 90% of us atleast lol) they'd rather make drastic changes to insure future busy work needing to be done. Job security lol
LMAO of course, the NBs whine as always and get their way. Most overtuned class since launch, and they STILL cry at the slightest nerf to their BS playstyle. SMH.
I have never noticed that crouching disables Stamina recovery. I have several stealth-based characters who can literally move at full speed in stealth without effectively ever running out of Stamina. We're talking several minutes at least before I even notice a dent in the Stamina bar.
As for toggle versus non-toggle: I always thought it was annoying having to spam the ability every 2.5 seconds to maintain invisibility. I've used my perma-stealth builds in Cyrodiil and have not noticed lag making any significant difference, but other people's mileage may vary. I'm fine with it being toggled Magicka-based stealth. I'll still be using Stamina-based stealth 90% of the time anyway.
Yeah this latest change will be a lot more forgiving and crouch just easier lol
So dumb, it just needs to work like streak. Even give it a cc immune for a sec idc I hate nightblades with a passion but this just ain’t it.
I’ve never struggled against Nbs especially when detect pots, magelight, camo hunter, etc there’s already so many counters
I think they should just nerf cross healing this bgs be killing the fun
So no healers for PvP. You do know there a people who prefer that.
I agree at last nerf heals 🤷♂️
Heals should have been gutted tbf
Sometimes the damage is so damn insane from top players
@@Eldersiegethen they r paper and u can kill then
I will have to fuck around with this later to see what I think, but it sounds like they are at least *trying* now. To be continued...
There could be more changes but unlikely
The magica disable will completely stop my siphon tank
Change is overall good I’ll be interested to test this. I’d just like to see stealth gameplay not completely gutted
My thoughts?
I hope Throne and Liberty is as good as it seems.
I've got an extreme case of build change fatigue.
That’s how mmos be
Ditto. Change is ok when it’s not your main activity.
Yeah definitely checking that out
@@PurrfectLaw gross
I was hyped for T&L then I got to play it today on Ps5. Going from ESO to that is like going from driving a car to riding a children's tricycle. Nothing is as good as it seems, gaming is big business and these streamers/content creators are paid well to overhype a product. It's nothing but a FFXIV clone, and not a very good one either.
Now you will be able to toggle cloak, and spam syphon, and rally infinitely, and not have to constantly recloak after 3 secs. I think i will change how people fight in a 1v1 but I think ganking will be the same
With all these new MMO's coming to console they are becoming very aware that they might lose a sizeable chunk of their player base so they are finally...listening? 😮 I am both shocked and amazed.
The chane was positive, it will cost less now and draing mag only when moving. From the two nerfs, this is the least punishing one.
They just switched from nerfing/punishing gankers to encouraging them to sit at doors even more 😂 wtf Zos
It’s hardly a nerf now
They still cant activily be invicible like constantly reaplying stealth while in the middle of a moving horde of people, so trust me this will still make it harder to play bow blade unless you use stealth pot
I think it’s just stupid no need to change the skill at all , learn from wow or lord of the rings online there nightblades still hold there original cloak, 20 years and still strong
It’s a pointless change this far in
i assume this puts stamblade > magblade for bombing and ganking since you can still run stam skills and have recovery while your mags draining. maybe running mag food or max mag gear just to get your pool high enough to be useful?
Yeah stack into magicka ull be fine now
they wrote a thesis in green, oh goodness 😅
Longwinded 😓
My belief is that they are going to replace the night blade with a new class next year. Time will tell.
lol the snipe campers in bg's will love this change
I actually prefer the toggle, so this is a great change, definitely better options though.
In practice could be clunky but hopefully not
Yeah i think this is more for roleplayers as you can perma invis with darloc brae
And gut your damage in the process, gg's
They need to up the cost the way streak does. Boom problem solved. Jesus zos 😂
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So you are saying if they make streak cost more pvp issues are all solved? You should work for them, the problem in pvp was infront of us all this time, A kite stun 😅
@snewten8366 are purposely being stupid or did you comment on the wrong thing?
@snewten8366 you must be drunk at 4 in the morning to be commenting something like that 😂😂
@@Ho0pxr No i must be awake drinking my morning cup of coffee preparing for work unlike you waking up right now at this time when im about to go home 😅
Make it ramping like roll dodge and sneak……toggle is unnecessary
Such an ez solution that's been overlooked for years
They over complicated the situation this would have sufficed
such a terrible idea, worse than this toggle idea 10x
@@stonic4467 it's not though lol it puts cloak on an equal playing field with other forms of evasion. Instead of a simple fix that makes sense (to 90% of us atleast lol) they'd rather make drastic changes to insure future busy work needing to be done. Job security lol
@@stonic4467 u have a better idea? Or you’re just a salty ganker?
My nightblades have like 14k max mag and around 1k recovery. I can't cloak tha long 😒
Stack into magicka only
vigor, cloak, siphon x4 then repeat. Should stay perma cloaked and sustained even while moving i think.
Okay. Thanks 🤔
Ugh still sux doesn’t matter I went to throne and liberty and not looking back
Will be testing that soon
Throne and Liberty is just awful, spent a few hours leveling today, it's worse than FFXIV imo.
LMAO of course, the NBs whine as always and get their way.
Most overtuned class since launch, and they STILL cry at the slightest nerf to their BS playstyle. SMH.
Big facts. I bag all NBs just cause it’s such a bitch ass cheesy class
Are they making changes to the other morph??
Don’t think so
Doesn’t matter it’s still a stupid nerf
cloak is not good now
Delete the class. Problem solved. 😂😂
Sounds dumb