The Secret Coming of Jesus Part 2

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  • @Hereme678
    @Hereme678 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I m going with Jesus own words, 2nd Advent where for 1900 ÿears the Church believe this text in Matthew 24 verse 29, 30: AFTER SUN, MOON LOSE LIGHT STARS FALL...THEN...HE RETURNS AT THIS MOMENT....NO OTHER WAY TO MESS UP THIS CLEAR TECHING

    • @Hereme678
      @Hereme678 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stop teaching secret rapture be4 Great Tribulation its a false teaching brought in by Scofield Bibile footnotes and John Darby based on a Scotish mystic named Margret Mcdonald in 1840...

    • @WilliamWadsworth-qz8pn
      @WilliamWadsworth-qz8pn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are many people messing up this teaching, but I am glad that you understand.

    • @georgebentonjr3876
      @georgebentonjr3876 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ""I m going with Jesus own words, 2nd Advent where for 1900 ÿears the Church believe this text in Matthew 24 verse 29, 30: AFTER SUN, MOON LOSE LIGHT STARS FALL...THEN...HE RETURNS AT THIS MOMENT....NO OTHER WAY TO MESS UP THIS CLEAR TECHING"" end quote
      Sun, Moon, and Stars
      Immediately after the tribulation of those days
      the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give
      its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the
      powers of the heavens will be shaken.(Matthew 24:29)
      At the end of the Tribulation, Jesus said, the
      universe will collapse: the light of the sun and the
      moon will be extinguished, the stars will fall, the
      powers of the heavens will be shaken.
      The basis for this symbolism is in Genesis 1:14-16, where the sun,
      moon, and stars (“the powers of the heavens”) are
      spoken of as “signs” which “govern” the world. Later
      in Scripture, these heavenly lights are used to speak
      of earthly authorities and governors; and when God
      threatens to come against them in judgment, the same
      collapsing-universe terminology is used to describe
      it. Prophesying the fall of Babylon to the Medes in
      539 B. C., Isaiah wrote:
      Behold, the Day of the LORD is coming, Cruel, with
      fury and burning anger, To make the land a desolation;
      And He will exterminate its sinners from it. For the
      stars of heaven and their constellations Will not
      flash forth with their light; The sun will be dark
      when it rises, And the moon will not shed its light
      (Isaiah 13:9-10).
      Significantly, Isaiah later prophesied the fall of
      Edom in terms of de-creation:
      And all the host of heaven will wear away, And the sky
      will be rolled up like a scroll; All their hosts will
      also wither away As a leaf withers from the vine, Or
      as one withers from the fig tree (Isaiah 34:4),
      Isaiah’s contemporary, the prophet Amos, foretold
      the doom of Samaria (722 B.C.) in much the same way:
      “And it will come about in that day,” Declares the
      Lord GOD, “That I shall make the sun go down at noon
      And make the earth dark in broad daylight” (Amos 8:9).
      Another example is from the prophet Ezekiel, who
      predicted the destruction of Egypt. God said this through Ezekiel:
      “And when I extinguish you, I will cover the heavens,
      and darken their stars; I will cover the sun with a
      cloud, And the moon shall not give its light. All the
      shining lights in the heavens I will darken over you
      And will set darkness on your land,” Declares the Lord
      GOD (Ezekiel 32:7-8).

      It must be stressed that none of these events
      literally took place. God did not intend anyone to
      place a literalist construction on these statements.
      Poetically, however, all these things did happen: as
      far as these wicked nations were concerned, "the
      lights went out."
      This is simply figurative language, which would not surprise us at all if we were more familiar with the Bible and appreciative of its literary character.

      What Jesus is saying in Matthew 24, therefore, in
      prophetic terminology immediately recognizable by his
      disciples, is that the light of Israel is going to be
      extinguished; the covenant nation will cease to exist.
      When the Tribulation is over, old Israel will be gone.
      - FULFILLED

  • @tigre659FM
    @tigre659FM 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am glad that you confess in the beginning, (Seconds 32-35), that it is "your opinion" and at the end (Minute:14:35) That "you just can't believe." In your part 1 Video I explained how 1 Corinthians 15:50-53 and 1 Thessalonians 14:13-18 are complimentary of each other. Describing how the dead believers, those whose bodies sleep in Jesus and whose spirits are with the LORD, HE will bring with Him to be resurrected in immortal bodies (1 Thess. 4:14) - "For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so GOD will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus." The bodies cannot go into heaven in decay, so they are transformed as they RESURRECT, and those of us still living WILL BE CHANGED into those same immortal bodies. Both portions of Scripture speak of the same event, which we true believers recognize as the RAPTURE of the believers to be with the LORD forevermore, Paul did not write this by his own understanding, no it is a prophecy by the WORD of the LORD Himself, look: 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18 - "For this WE SAY TO YOU BY THE WORD OF THE LORD, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will BY NO MEANS PRECEDE THOSE who are asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the DEAD IN CHRIST WILL RISE FIRST. 17Then WE WHO ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN SHALL BE CAUGHT UP TOGETHER WITH THEM IN THE CLOUDS TO MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR. And thus WE SHALL ALWAYS BE WITH THE LORD. 18Therefore comfort one another with these words."
    Now Corinthians 15:51-52 - "Behold, I TELL YOU A MYSTERY: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed- 52in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the DEAD WILL BE RAISED INCORRUPTIBLE, and WE SHALL BE CHANGED."
    So from these two complimentary portions of Scripture, prophesied by Paul, we learn that the LORD Himself will bring those who are already with Him and the bodies sleep (with Jesus = dead believers) They will RESURRECT FIRST into immortal bodies. Living believers WILL BE CHANGED to those immortal bodies and in a twinkling of an eye are all CAUGHT UP TO MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR. And thus WE SHALL ALWAYS BE WITH THE LORD!
    Now Let's look at the timeline of how this is all going to take place and what will happen NEXT:
    Isaiah 26:19 - 21 (Prophecy from Isaiah)
    Isaiah 26 verse 19 - RESURRECTION - Your dead shall live; Together with my dead body they shall arise.
    Awake and sing, YOU WHO DWELL IN DUST; For your dew is like the dew of herbs, And the EARTH SHALL CAST OUT THE DEAD.
    Isaiah 26 verse 20 - RAPTURE - Come, MY PEOPLE, enter your CHAMBERS, (John 14:2-3) And shut your doors behind you; Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment, UNTIL THE INDIGNATION IS PAST.
    Isaiah 26 verse 21 - TRIBULATION BEGINS ON EARTH - For behold, the LORD COMES OUT OF HIS PLACE
    To PUNISH THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH for their iniquity; The earth will also disclose her blood,
    And will no more cover her slain.
    Please DO NOT Delete this third attempt, let people decide by them selves as they read GOD's WORD and HIS SPIRIT provides understanding and do not have to decide by human assumptions! Shalom

  • @georgebentonjr3876
    @georgebentonjr3876 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesus already came.

    • @WilliamWadsworth-qz8pn
      @WilliamWadsworth-qz8pn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, and he is coming back in the same manner in which he left. Acts 1:11 " ...this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."

    • @georgebentonjr3876
      @georgebentonjr3876 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WilliamWadsworth-qz8pn ""Yes, and he is coming back in the same manner in which he left. Acts 1:11 " ...this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven." " end quote
      Fulfilled in the first century.
      Acts 1:11 says that Jesus is going to come back in the SAME manner He left. My Bible says He left visibly and physically. You, on the other hand, say He already came back and will not come back in the flesh. How do you defend yourself against Acts 1:11, a verse that is an obvious contradiction of your position?
      2 Corinthians 5:16
      ANSWER: The Lord was going to come in the same manner as He entered heaven. How did He enter heaven? Hidden from the eyes in a Cloud. (vs. 9) He was going to "come in like manner."
      The apostles wanted Jesus to come out of the Cloud, to be lowered back down and to be with them again in the flesh. But the two men corrected the apostles by telling them that Jesus was going to come, not in the manner He left, but in the manner He entered Heaven. The Coming of the Son with His Father to indwell the Church was not going to be a coming in His flesh, but in His Divinity, in the Glory-Cloud of Yahweh God. (I Tim. 3:16)
      The spiritual nature of Christ's Parousia is confirmed by a comparison of Matt. 16:28 and Lk. 17:21: In Matt. 16:28, Jesus taught that His Coming was going to be "in His Kingdom." In Lk. 17:20-21, He taught that His Kingdom was going to come "not with observation." If the Kingdom was going to come "not with observation," then it follows also that the King in that Kingdom (II Cor. 4:18) was also going to come "not with observation."
      Matthew 24 does not apply beyond 70 A.D.
      The "catching-up" (1 Thess. 4:17) or "gathering" (Matt. 24:31) was accomplished when the faithful remnant of Jewish believers with the in-grafted Gentiles were transformed (and transferred) into Christ's new spiritual Israel.
      This was accomplished at the same time the old fleshly-based Israel was dissolved at A.D. 70.
      The meeting-place is the heavenly places in Christ - the spiritual kingdom.
      I am sure that those to whom Paul wrote in 1 Thess. 4, who were living in the day of God's wrath upon fleshly-oriented Israel, who remembered Jesus' words and fled into the hills to escape the destruction, took great comfort in those precious words of hope (see Matt. 24:15-21)
      They did not want to forsake their being gathered together into the heavenly kingdom.

  • @HarpazoReady2022
    @HarpazoReady2022 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amen! Jesus said in John 10:27-28 that only His sheep hear His voice.
    So when He calls for us to come hither in the rapture, only believers will hear it, not unbelievers.
    The unsaved won’t hear Him. They will have no clue it even happened. I believe a global catastrophe will occur and God will snatch us upward in a split second ahead of it.
    God Bless!! 🎺☁️

    • @WilliamWadsworth-qz8pn
      @WilliamWadsworth-qz8pn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't agree with that. I think the sights and sounds will be heard by everyone as they were in Exodus 19:16-20:
      16 And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.
      17 And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with God; and they stood at the nether part of the mount.
      18 And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.
      19 And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice.
      20 And the Lord came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the Lord called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.
      The speaking back and forth between Moses (believers) and God may not be heard by everyone, but the thunders, lightnings, clouds, trumpet and earth quaking at Jesus' return will be unmistakable. I believe John 14:1-3 described first century events and 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 describes events that will happen after Jesus has reigned for 1,000 years. These are not passages about Jesus' return. In part 3 of this series, I will compare 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 with other passages that I believe also describe the return of Jesus.

    • @HarpazoReady2022
      @HarpazoReady2022 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WilliamWadsworth-qz8pn Every eye shall see Him and every knee will bow at His second coming at the end of the 7year Tribulation. But at the rapture of the church before all that, *unbelievers* will not hear Jesus’ shout, only His sheep will because the rapture isn’t for the ungodly. God Bless!

    • @WilliamWadsworth-qz8pn
      @WilliamWadsworth-qz8pn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HarpazoReady2022 Was there anything in 'The Hidden Rapture' parts 1 or 2 that you disagree with? Part 3 will include many examples of 1 Thes 4:13-18, the return of Jesus when every eye sees him. God bless you as well.

    • @HarpazoReady2022
      @HarpazoReady2022 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WilliamWadsworth-qz8pn Sounds like you’re confusing the rapture with the second coming. They’re two separate events occurring at least 7-years apart. The rapture happens in the air in the clouds according to 1 Thess 4:17- Jesus doesn’t come down to earth. But at the second coming when he descends from heaven according to Revelation 19:11-19 & Zechariah 14:4-11 in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives & split it in two. His Second Coming is in judgment & He will destroy those nations that come against Him.
      Revelation 19 describes His *wife* is no longer a bride and we will follow Christ down from heaven wearing clean white linen. So we’re already in heaven & descend *with* Jesus at the second coming.
      A lot of details in Revelation 19 that most people miss. Even I missed it for a time.
      Tribulation events are lined up and ready to commence right now. So it’s time to remove His bride *before* Gods wrath on the ungodly can commence according to 1 Thess 1:10, 1 Thess 5:9 and Romans 5:9. WE aren’t appointed to that time of Gods wrath because Jesus took that wrath in our place. We can’t be here for Gods wrath pouring down on those who dwell on the earth. Look up, friend, our redemption draws near! 🎺 ☁️
      Unless you just *want* to stay and be part of the 1/4 on the earth that perishes (Revelation 6:8) or the additional 1/3 in Revelation 9:15. By that time if you run the math, half the earths population will be gone. That’s why Jesus said in Matthew 24:22 if He didn’t shorten that time period, no one would survive.
      So I’m going in the Group Plan before all that💜

    • @WilliamWadsworth-qz8pn
      @WilliamWadsworth-qz8pn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HarpazoReady2022 My point in this 3-part video series is to show that the rapture and the second coming is only 1 event. People mix 1 Thes 4:17 with John 14:1-3 and 1 Cor 15:51-54 to conclude there are 2 events. John 14:1-3 was about 1st century events and 1 Cor 15:51-54 is about events that will take place after Jesus has reigned on earth for 1,000 years. The next video will compare 1 Thes 4:17 with many other passages that will take place at the time of Jesus' return.