Thank you David! I live in northern california. I have a 2021 GSA. My bike is having it's 42K (miles) service at BMW. Oil change, rear brake pads, flush brake lines, Over $800 US dollars. I think I should service my bike myself. Your how-to videos are excellent! I am now subscribed... I really like your video work and excellent high definition. Camera angles are perfect.
Just one tip when changing the oil filter cassette, always fill it with brand new oil almost up to the top, it won´t spill any of it when puting it back in place, helping the oil pump do his job properly. Regards from Argentina.
Thanks for the tip on getting the shaft back into the bevel gears, i spent ages struggling! The final drive filler is actually a T40 and the sump is a T55. On my r1200gs when I first did the rear drive oil change the filler was really tight and I stripped the drive using a hex socket (advice on a different video). Speaking to BMW service tech he told me they are both Torx, not Hex.
Great video, thanks. Spending time with the bike and doing my own service is therapy. AND, it almost always pays for all the tools you need to do it by the 1st service for sure, unless of course if you already have them. This videos gives people who don't quite have the skill set, knowledge or confidence to do their own. It's a good idea to video the service for proof you did it.
Excellent video. Just got my new 40 year GS and want to learn these types of things. One thing I was glad to see you did was service the drive shaft. I hear they are never well lubed and need this done. I will try to do this myself to ensure there is good lube. Do not want any rust in tis location. Thanks for the torque settings as well. Perfect as I had no idea where to find these.
Excellent vid, Sir. I ve just acquired a brand new 1250 gs and only today had its first service done. I am new to motorbike mechanics but eager to learn and your videos will surely offer a great deal of help. Thank you and pls keep up the good work. Greetings from Poland ;).
Hi David. I've just came across your video as i purchased a GS last month (older model). Great video and very informative and helpful. Im thinking of doing the same on my bike and just plucking up the courage by watching a few videos. Keep up the great work and videos. New subscriber here.👍🏻
Nice work I am a previous Suzuki VStrom owner , and also I am a previous owner of of an African twin . And now I am a BMW GSA 1250 R owner . And I did all what you did in the video . But the big question is : Why didn't BMW design this engine to work with a chain instead of this nightmare ?
Just subscribed n hit the bell. Nice seeing anyone carry out their own services on their bikes. Never owned a BMW but enjoyed the video anyway. Good information n well filmed.
Nice job, the bike looks new so this is likely not a concern, but I always make it a habit to remove the fill plug before I drain the fluid, this way if you are unable to remove the fill for any reason (Strips, too tight, galled etc) you aren't stuck :)
I would check the sump plug torque, I have the 2024 GS Adventure and the service manual states 42 Nm. not 20. The rear bevel gears and filler plug are 20Nm. and oil filter is 11Nm
Greetings, thank you very much for taking the time to make this super video of the service of your motorcycle, on my motorcycle I have put some magnets on the filter so that the metal also stays there apart from the magnet that it has in the oil screw, a question Without being indiscreet, you can see that your motorcycle is very well cared for, you are no longer obliged to take it to the agency, that the truth, the services of these motorcycles can be made by one much better both in the care and in other things, new super video
Not sure if it does or not. If they didn't want you working on your own bike would they give directions in the owners book on how to access the Hex plug or give any form of info on servicing? I lived in states and had warranty claim they settled 6m out of warranty and I did all my own servicing there. I will do my own here but record what I do and keep receipts to prove it was done. If not serviced professionally, too many people just don't bother doing it.
@@Hogdriver88 coming over next month to look for a house. Most of UK house already packed up. N Georgia, NC both being looked at. 2 RN's looking for work!
Hi David, searching the web to gain some tips on how to service the rear drive shaft on my BMW GS 1200 2013, I'd like to give you a tip (if I may) on how to make things easier when putting the zip-tie back on the front boot when re-assembling. So before putting the boot back on in its place, first put the zip-tie around the boot loosely where it's supposed to be. So all that needs doing then is tightening it. Hope this is will be of help and may make things easier next time. Ride Save.
It's always best to do your own maintenance...I purchased a dealer maintained 2019 R1250RT from a private party. He always took the bike to the dealer for service. The bike had 6K miles when I purchased it. To get a baseline on the maintenance, I changed the motor oil and final drive oil. As stated in the video the final drive requires 180ml of oil...So I drained the oil into a measuring cup and it had 240ml worth of oil..and this was a dealer maintained motorcycle...sad to say this is not the first time I have found a dealer's workmanship lacking...
@@dannysvendsen2438 180ml is the correct amount, I found 240ml when I drained the fluid. It used to be 200ml but BMW lowered to 180ml to try to solve a series of blown final drive gaskets. I would not take the word of a mechanic over the official Shop Manual produced by BMW. I would believe his word when I could see an official bulletin from the Motorrad stating what you were told...And the cool thing about the BMW manual is, it comes on a DVD and it's updated via the Internet.
@@fyyff52 yes. I also had the exhaust front pibes system replaced under warranty. Fauilre wiht exhaust valve. Many Gs has this fauilre. And they gave me a New gps, though its not under the 5 year warranty. But okey service 👍. Anyway, here in Denmark we only have the 5 year warranty if we have dealer maintain. But that okey for me. But now, Im waiting for a Bosch LTX20CH-BS lithium battery. The old one is not that good. Never had been😬🤨🤫
Why not it ain't rocket science and you can then only blame yourself. Just watched a land rover owner (and car dealer) who used a dealership with sorting an issues. He said what he thought it was but after 3 different dealers where they couldn't find the fault, they did as he asked and it was fixed!
@@TrailBreak-Travel the problem with dealerships is, they don't listen to the driver/rider. They just follow the computer readout and the maintenance booklet..
What professionalism!!! Respect to you david, this is the first time I see after an engine oil change you start the engine twice, to see at what level it stabilizes, and should you add more or not, but I start it engine after emptying the used oil, to expel the one that remains in the engine and that it does not mix with the new oil. Please tell me if my experience is correct? A big greeting from Algeria.
General consensus is 42Nm is too high. Here is why Torque specs are for clean, dry threads only, period. Your oil sump threads will never again be clean/dry. A slight snug once oil plug stops moving by hand is more than enough. Step away from the torque wrench. Don't say you haven't been warned.
In Italy a motorcycle so new and difficult to resell it without the certified BMW coupons. I have a V-Strom1000K7 and once the Suzuki warranty has expired I have always done the servicing alone, 140,000 km and it's ok. Good work, good. 👍😉
Thanks for sharing the maintenance info with us. I really appreciated the care with which you underwent the maintenance. However, you did not clean the old oil from the drain or the filter areas and did not open the fill cap to facilitate draining. Is there a reason you elt it not needed?
I know this video is a while ago, You check the oil level on the center stand although the bike is pitched forward? Teh manual is silent on it wcept talking about rocking it back and forward which infers it's on the center stand... NIce clean work and clear narrative. Bravo. Tip: wrap the exhaust in aluminum foil when removing the oil plug and ensuing runnoff... wrt the drive shaft. You indicate that fore and aft splines were virtually dry from the factory? I've got 6k on mine. Will change oil this week before put to bed for the winter...should I check them IYHO? The dealer did not on the first (was included in my purchase price). thanks!
My UK 21 had dry splines, US 22 has drain plug fitted and lubricated splines so take your pick! I would always do them as believe prevention better than cure. Center stand is OK and accurate enough.
Appreciate the reply…seems a crap-shoot whether the factory got it right..Also some have a real tough time assembling the rear shaft/spline. Now that it’s bedtime for bikes in Canada cannot resist the curiosity to check… Happy new year thanks for the very informative content.
Great video. I just had my first service at the dealer ( it was thrown in for free when I got my GSA 1250 ) I can't imagine they were as meticulous as you were but I fell secure enough. If you are ever in Southern California hit me up and I'll be more then glad to let you service my bike...LOL. Keep the videos coming.
First job is warm the engine so the oil drains more efficiently as will removing filler plugs. Doing the wheel nuts up in a circular rather diagonal sequence is just the type of error that feeds into dealers/manufacturers not accepting owner servicing and not honouring warranties. Would also be more complete to show any debris on the drive housing drain plug. that needs cleaning. Did you clean old threadlock off the torque arm bolt and reapplly fresh?
Was that your first rear drive oil change? The US bikes are filled with a moly based oil that's solid black and yours looked really clear. Great video.
Hello David, from The Netherlands, thank you so much for this educating video! I’ve subscribed to your channel. Since May this year I own my bike-dream, a R1250GS year 2021. I still have a 2 year BMW factory/dealership warranty so no need to do the service myself, for now. I have 2 questions from which I hope you are willing to help me with. 1) what are the Nm (torque) settings for all the bolts/screws? (all the bolts and screws on the bike would be very appreciated 😬) 2) how do I reset/remove (step by step) the message that service is overdue? Many thanks in advance. Warm regards, Peter
Send me ur email I'll send u my list. Remeber torque settings are for dry threads with no oil. SUMP Will always have oil on, in actual fact I just "nip" up, don't wanna strip.
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing. I started losing the fear by doing a full service on an old BMW K1200GT 2003. I now feel more confident, the haynes repair manual has all the steps and torque settings. Last week I got a BMW R1200GS 2022. I'm searching for the service/repair manual to get the torque settings and all the steps just as the haynes repair manual for my GT but can't find it anywhere. I love your video, I would think that the torque settings are the same as your motorcycle... If not, could you please tell me how you got them? Are there service manuals yet? I read that BMW is no longer selling them, I found out too late, I already bought the motorcycle (and I'm loving it after just 170km!) but I would like to do the services myself. Here in Mexico they state that if you do the service yourself it will void warranty, they also state that if we dont use the motorcycle for at least 400km a month it will void the warranty. I don't think I will use it that much for the three years, I also use the GT and cars! So for me, the warranty seems to be void already LOL.
Very thorough, informative and well filmed video David, was just wondering how this will affect your BMW warranty mate, doing the service yourself, it will save you you a fortune doing it yourself right enough.
Here in UK I have no idea but I have proof it was serviced correctly and no problem when I lived in the US. The owners manual gives very precise directions on how to connect a HEX code reader, why would they if they didn't want you doing your own work. Time will tell and at least I know I did it right.
Is the motor oil synthetic? If no is it because of cost, manufacture recommendations or your preference? I always ran synthetic in all 3 of my Harleys, it dropped the temperature down big time compared to the regular motor oils. Thanks Ken
Great video David, very well done! You make it look easy! Question, I noticed when you replaced your filter oil ran over your exhaust manifold, what do you use to clean the oil from the manifold? I worry that whatever I use will leave a residue on the manifold and cause it to discolor more. Thanks!
Hi Sir. Please i live in Cameroon in Africa but i love the moto R1250 GS but i donc know how To have one. Is it possible for you to sell your one moto if you want To buy the new 2022?? Please tell me the price. Thanks
Hi David!, I’ve been watching this video several times already and while I wrote down every torque value I was wondering how do you know them? I saw that Amazon sells Haynes repair manual only for BMW r 1200 gs and hesitated buying it. Do you believe that most of the torque values are identical for the 2 models? I enjoyed watching your video so that thank you!
@@TrailBreak-Travel Thank you so much David - I joined your photography group at Facebook and left/sent my email to your administrator there Dee Jae.🏍📷🌄
What a good point ! I was thinking the same thing ! This is the best DIY service video I have seen. Beautifully narrated and full of the information that you need to know.
You mentioned your previous 1200, so I assume you learned to do your own maintenance starting with that one? I'm guessing you have a service manual as well, since you know the torque specs, or did you get those specs somewhere else online? How do you know that BMW will honor your maintenance on the bike in regards to the warranty? I'm asking all this because I'd like to do this type of maintenance on my1250 (when I finally get it) since I've been doing most of the maintenance on my GoldWing for the past 20 years. I've never owned a new bike under warranty though.
I had BMW's since 80's. Previous GS IN US was repaired under warranty outside the then 2 year period, when a shock went and I was very impressed with them for that. I have no service manual as yet but will be purchasing the disk available from BMW when it needed as bike ages and the number of items needing attention grows. Torque settings available from several sites.
@@hdk6187 I record my services to show they are done! If BMW didn't want you doing your own work, they shouldn't give detailed directions how to hook up scan tool!! I lived in US and never had issues. If they expect to give no cover for own servicing, it should clearly say on the warranty paperwork. Will be returning to US for another Probably. Anyone in the UK looking for a low mileage GS?🤣
@@TrailBreak-Travel We are in agreement, I wanted to clarify for US owners that they can do their own maintenance and not void their warranty. The law is called the Magnuson-Moss Warranty act.
Good day sir, I own a GS 1250 2022. I watched 3 videos on youtube and they all have a different torque for the engine oil drain bolt. You say 20 Nm and the two others say 32 & 42 Nm. What is the correct setting…where can I have the specs from BMW? Thanks, Marc Quebec Canada 🇨🇦😉🏍
I use lower setting as thread on drained sump is oiled. People have said 42 is too much and is for clean dry threads. Shops have seen bolts stripped. I literally squeeze up the crush washer and have never had issues or stripped threads.
Great video but am a bit confused on the torque settings for the oil drain bolt Dealers say it 32 NM and you say it’s 20 NM it’s a big difference we’re do you get all the bikes torque settings I can’t find them Much appreciated.
Send your email to David.bairstow@gmail.com and I will send you the full settings. Torque settings are for dry, non oiled threads. With oil present there is a risk of over tightening and stripping the threads. I actually just nip up the bolt to just squeeze the crush washer and seal it.
Nice Job and very detailed. Thank you. One question, what about the warranty ? You will loose the waranty I you will make this jobs at home? Isn't that bad? Thanks and cheers from Romania.
Why should I loose the warranty? I have proof of the service with all parts, BMW go to great lengths to explain how to use the hex plug. I haven't seen anywhere that warranty is lost if you service yourself.
@@TrailBreak-Travel I am asking because I have a 21 BMW GSA and I would like to do the service myself but I am afraid I will loose the warranty. I have also the 911GS from Hex so I will reset the counter. What I would like to do is to follow the service check list and if I need to chack the valve clearence for example I will do it in the dealership but if there is only the oil change, I think they are charging too much
I find that kind of job doable from me but what about warranty ?As far as i know you must do all services on bmw authorized service to have active warranty .
Check with ur dealer. In US it is illegal to force you to dealer service to keep warranty. Everyone quotes this but nowhere is it written you have to. Do the work and either record work done or keep receipts to prove it was.
Nice video 👍normally service my own bikes as well but won't risk it while mine's under warranty most dealers make very little on sales of new bikes and rely on service work to make a profit so can't imagine the conversation when dealers is asked about a warranty issue only to find they've not benefited from your custom ,fingers crossed 😏on an unrelated note do you have the loud tapping noise from left cylinder when engine is hot ?goes away at 2k revs seems pretty common ,I know my 2020 sounds like a diesel when hot !
Nope no noise off mine. I was advised by BMW mechanic in US when I bought my 09 to run them in pretty hard, his thoughts were the engineering is so good now that the only part needing broken in is the piston rings. Ran mine to 60k after using his advice and never used a drop of oil while others complained they had to top up regularly. As I said before BMW warranty is second to none and I do my own servicing because I enjoy it and I have a vested interest to see it done correctly. I can't comment on profit on new bikes, it's not my business but I did enquire from a bike dealer on trade in value of my 3 month old bike and they offered £6k less than I paid so somebody makes profit!
@@TrailBreak-Travel definitely agree that mechanics wont take the care we do ,I also enjoy tinkering on my bikes and previously worked on all my bikes since late 70s ,interesting ref left cylinder noise some do it some don't, allegedly BMW are aware and looking for a permanent fix ,dealer usually gives it "they all do that sir"😏
Mine too made a horrendous noise from the left cylinder. That and leaky front brake calipers. As we saw in the video, you can't even rely on BMW to grease the drive shift splines. I went back to the 1200.
Leaky front calipers fixed here by putting pressure on lever for a few hours. I love the BMW calipers and there has been no recall on them to be swapped out to Brembo's.
Eu não tinha, eu tinha as configurações de torque e sempre fiz manutenção em minhas próprias motos, então sabia como fazer isso. Tenho BMW desde o final dos anos 80.
Great video Dave. With regards to the torque settings, you seem to have way more than what is disclosed in the owners manual. Would you mind sharing your source ?
I don't think so. I know in US it is illegal to force you to have to service with them. Elsewhere I don't know but video proves correct work was done. I have had nothing but praise to sing with BMW and warranty issues and have always serviced my own.
David, congratulations! Your video is really great. A lot of important details. Thank you. While I was watching the video, I saw a adicional rear splash guard, and I'm very interesting in this accessory for my bike. Would you show me more details and your experience with this accessory? Have a nice weekend.
With the oil drained and the filter off I always crank it over for 5 to 10 seconds to get all the old oil out of the oil pump. Doing that will yield at least another half a cup.
Thank you David! I live in northern california. I have a 2021 GSA. My bike is having it's 42K (miles) service at BMW. Oil change, rear brake pads, flush brake lines, Over $800 US dollars. I think I should service my bike myself. Your how-to videos are excellent!
I am now subscribed... I really like your video work and excellent high definition. Camera angles are perfect.
Very nice detail and camera work. Much appreciated. I got vertigo watching the oil drain!
Just one tip when changing the oil filter cassette, always fill it with brand new oil almost up to the top, it won´t spill any of it when puting it back in place, helping the oil pump do his job properly. Regards from Argentina.
Hello from Poland. i love how relaxed You are during making service. Step by step without messing arround and no rush. Great job.
Thanks for the tip on getting the shaft back into the bevel gears, i spent ages struggling! The final drive filler is actually a T40 and the sump is a T55. On my r1200gs when I first did the rear drive oil change the filler was really tight and I stripped the drive using a hex socket (advice on a different video). Speaking to BMW service tech he told me they are both Torx, not Hex.
Great video, thanks. Spending time with the bike and doing my own service is therapy. AND, it almost always pays for all the tools you need to do it by the 1st service for sure, unless of course if you already have them. This videos gives people who don't quite have the skill set, knowledge or confidence to do their own. It's a good idea to video the service for proof you did it.
Excellent video. Just got my new 40 year GS and want to learn these types of things. One thing I was glad to see you did was service the drive shaft. I hear they are never well lubed and need this done. I will try to do this myself to ensure there is good lube. Do not want any rust in tis location. Thanks for the torque settings as well. Perfect as I had no idea where to find these.
Excellent vid, Sir. I ve just acquired a brand new 1250 gs and only today had its first service done. I am new to motorbike mechanics but eager to learn and your videos will surely offer a great deal of help.
Thank you and pls keep up the good work.
Greetings from Poland ;).
Thank you spread the word, great bike
Hi David. I've just came across your video as i purchased a GS last month (older model).
Great video and very informative and helpful. Im thinking of doing the same on my bike and just plucking up the courage by watching a few videos.
Keep up the great work and videos.
New subscriber here.👍🏻
Glad it was helpful!. Take your time and use the right equipment and fluids
I use a floor jack to line up and engage spines!
Sure is nice to see maintenance performed on a clean bike, the only way to do it!
Clean and new, now sold as I move back to US next weekend and will be sourcing another
@@TrailBreak-Travel Good luck with the move, best wishes from Indiana.
Nice work
I am a previous Suzuki VStrom owner , and also I am a previous owner of of an African twin .
And now I am a BMW GSA 1250 R owner .
And I did all what you did in the video .
But the big question is :
Why didn't BMW design this engine to work with a chain instead of this nightmare ?
Hello from Brazil! I love making services on my GS too.
Best regrads!
Just subscribed n hit the bell. Nice seeing anyone carry out their own services on their bikes. Never owned a BMW but enjoyed the video anyway. Good information n well filmed.
Nice job, the bike looks new so this is likely not a concern, but I always make it a habit to remove the fill plug before I drain the fluid, this way if you are unable to remove the fill for any reason (Strips, too tight, galled etc) you aren't stuck :)
Good idea!
Not only for that reason but also to create air flow and aid in draining the oil. Just like those breather holes on takeaway coffee lids 🤘🏽
There are other crankcase ventilation paths though
Nice trick with the cable tie for the rear!!!
Thanks! 👍
I would check the sump plug torque, I have the 2024 GS Adventure and the service manual states 42 Nm. not 20. The rear bevel gears and filler plug are 20Nm. and oil filter is 11Nm
Greetings, thank you very much for taking the time to make this super video of the service of your motorcycle, on my motorcycle I have put some magnets on the filter so that the metal also stays there apart from the magnet that it has in the oil screw, a question Without being indiscreet, you can see that your motorcycle is very well cared for, you are no longer obliged to take it to the agency, that the truth, the services of these motorcycles can be made by one much better both in the care and in other things, new super video
Magnets on filter shouldn't be needed, that why it's a filter. Even though mine was new and in break in period, magnet on drain plug was clean.
Not sure if it does or not. If they didn't want you working on your own bike would they give directions in the owners book on how to access the Hex plug or give any form of info on servicing? I lived in states and had warranty claim they settled 6m out of warranty and I did all my own servicing there. I will do my own here but record what I do and keep receipts to prove it was done. If not serviced professionally, too many people just don't bother doing it.
Thanks, more content when I get Stateside, just sold bike in UK😩
No! This was a great vid and I just subscribed. Come to North Carolina - I may soon need a BMW-savvy friend to help me work on mine.
@@Hogdriver88 coming over next month to look for a house. Most of UK house already packed up. N Georgia, NC both being looked at. 2 RN's looking for work!
Nice video, keep doing it… love from Australia
Great job Sir... Question for BMW: why rust on the shaft drive on a new bike ? when spending $30 000 on a bike you do not expect that !!!
Thanks a million great video. Just bought a R1250GSA and this is a great help 👍
Glad it helped
Waaaaaw! U really are 1 hek of a nut head sir! Very impressive work u've done there sir! I love it! I'm from Philippines sir!
Hi David, searching the web to gain some tips on how to service the rear drive shaft on my BMW GS 1200 2013, I'd like to give you a tip (if I may) on how to make things easier when putting the zip-tie back on the front boot when re-assembling. So before putting the boot back on in its place, first put the zip-tie around the boot loosely where it's supposed to be. So all that needs doing then is tightening it. Hope this is will be of help and may make things easier next time. Ride Save.
It's always best to do your own maintenance...I purchased a dealer maintained 2019 R1250RT from a private party. He always took the bike to the dealer for service. The bike had 6K miles when I purchased it. To get a baseline on the maintenance, I changed the motor oil and final drive oil. As stated in the video the final drive requires 180ml of oil...So I drained the oil into a measuring cup and it had 240ml worth of oil..and this was a dealer maintained motorcycle...sad to say this is not the first time I have found a dealer's workmanship lacking...
Yes, they do180 now insted offf 240 course heat I got tould
@@dannysvendsen2438 180ml is the correct amount, I found 240ml when I drained the fluid. It used to be 200ml but BMW lowered to 180ml to try to solve a series of blown final drive gaskets. I would not take the word of a mechanic over the official Shop Manual produced by BMW. I would believe his word when I could see an official bulletin from the Motorrad stating what you were told...And the cool thing about the BMW manual is, it comes on a DVD and it's updated via the Internet.
@@fyyff52 yes. I also had the exhaust front pibes system replaced under warranty. Fauilre wiht exhaust valve. Many Gs has this fauilre. And they gave me a New gps, though its not under the 5 year warranty. But okey service 👍.
Anyway, here in Denmark we only have the 5 year warranty if we have dealer maintain. But that okey for me. But now, Im waiting for a Bosch LTX20CH-BS lithium battery. The old one is not that good. Never had been😬🤨🤫
Agora não levo em mecânico mais, eu mesmo vou fazer essa revisão. Obrigado!!!
Great video!! well explained and well done. Ty
Nice video David. It is a great chance to be able to maintain your BMW yourself. I cant to do this! I wish I was your neighbor. Thank you
Now in GA USA
Excellent video and tutorial...thanks for taking the time to video procedures and explain process.
You always undo the filler screw first
Well done. I also do most of the service on my Ducati myself.
Why not it ain't rocket science and you can then only blame yourself. Just watched a land rover owner (and car dealer) who used a dealership with sorting an issues. He said what he thought it was but after 3 different dealers where they couldn't find the fault, they did as he asked and it was fixed!
@@TrailBreak-Travel the problem with dealerships is, they don't listen to the driver/rider. They just follow the computer readout and the maintenance booklet..
@@oneman900 just like doctors looking at lab results. Maybe should do a test ride before they get started.
Loved the video, especially "nano meters"!😂
Glad you enjoyed!
What professionalism!!! Respect to you david, this is the first time I see after an engine oil change you start the engine twice, to see at what level it stabilizes, and should you add more or not, but I start it engine after emptying the used oil, to expel the one that remains in the engine and that it does not mix with the new oil. Please tell me if my experience is correct? A big greeting from Algeria.
Never start an engine with no oil in! Better to leave some of the old than run it dry!
in my manualit says :
Oil drain plug to crankcase
M20 x 1.5 42 Nm
General consensus is 42Nm is too high. Here is why
Torque specs are for clean, dry threads only, period. Your oil sump threads will never again be clean/dry.
A slight snug once oil plug stops moving by hand is more than enough. Step away from the torque wrench.
Don't say you haven't been warned.
@@TrailBreak-Travel Actually had a dealer in the states crack my block over tighten the drain plug.
In Italy a motorcycle so new and difficult to resell it without the certified BMW coupons. I have a V-Strom1000K7 and once the Suzuki warranty has expired I have always done the servicing alone, 140,000 km and it's ok. Good work, good. 👍😉
Video shows service correctly done, dealers don’t video their work, dry propshaft is an example!
@@TrailBreak-Travel 👍😉
@@TrailBreak-Travel True. You absolutely cannot trust dealers' mechanics to do as good a job as you would do yourself.
Thanks. The video is clear with good camera work. What's with the lil 🔔 bell? Looks like an essential accessory 😀. Might try it myself :)
Thanks for sharing the maintenance info with us. I really appreciated the care with which you underwent the maintenance. However, you did not clean the old oil from the drain or the filter areas and did not open the fill cap to facilitate draining. Is there a reason you elt it not needed?
I know this video is a while ago, You check the oil level on the center stand although the bike is pitched forward? Teh manual is silent on it wcept talking about rocking it back and forward which infers it's on the center stand...
NIce clean work and clear narrative. Bravo.
Tip: wrap the exhaust in aluminum foil when removing the oil plug and ensuing runnoff...
wrt the drive shaft. You indicate that fore and aft splines were virtually dry from the factory? I've got 6k on mine. Will change oil this week before put to bed for the winter...should I check them IYHO? The dealer did not on the first (was included in my purchase price).
thanks!
My UK 21 had dry splines, US 22 has drain plug fitted and lubricated splines so take your pick! I would always do them as believe prevention better than cure. Center stand is OK and accurate enough.
Appreciate the reply…seems a crap-shoot whether the factory got it right..Also some have a real tough time assembling the rear shaft/spline.
Now that it’s bedtime for bikes in Canada cannot resist the curiosity to check… Happy new year thanks for the very informative content.
@@constantineeliadis465 it is a crap shoot as you say, but to date I've never had a failure and been riding beemers since 92
Great video. I just had my first service at the dealer ( it was thrown in for free when I got my GSA 1250 ) I can't imagine they were as meticulous as you were but I fell secure enough. If you are ever in Southern California hit me up and I'll be more then glad to let you service my bike...LOL. Keep the videos coming.
Lol, in the UK for now but contemplating a move back. You never know.
Should always remove the filler plug first because if you drain the final drive and cannot open/round off the filler you are screwed
Been doing this stuff 40yrs plus. Sometimes the obvious is second nature. Original filler will always come out, it's plastic!
@@TrailBreak-Travel not on your final drive it isn't fella
@@pcat1378 No mention if final drive or engine! Correct final drive is a metal plug.
@@TrailBreak-Travel Your u need to reread my original post....it says...final drive
First job is warm the engine so the oil drains more efficiently as will removing filler plugs. Doing the wheel nuts up in a circular rather diagonal sequence is just the type of error that feeds into dealers/manufacturers not accepting owner servicing and not honouring warranties. Would also be more complete to show any debris on the drive housing drain plug. that needs cleaning. Did you clean old threadlock off the torque arm bolt and reapplly fresh?
Fair Comments, most of which I expect people to know already if they are doing this stuff. No debris on this one, was on my UK 21 one which is shown.
Thanks for putting effort..and teach us...very good video..God bless you
Was that your first rear drive oil change? The US bikes are filled with a moly based oil that's solid black and yours looked really clear. Great video.
Yes first
Hello David, from The Netherlands, thank you so much for this educating video! I’ve subscribed to your channel. Since May this year I own my bike-dream, a R1250GS year 2021. I still have a 2 year BMW factory/dealership warranty so no need to do the service myself, for now. I have 2 questions from which I hope you are willing to help me with. 1) what are the Nm (torque) settings for all the bolts/screws? (all the bolts and screws on the bike would be very appreciated 😬) 2) how do I reset/remove (step by step) the message that service is overdue? Many thanks in advance. Warm regards, Peter
wooow top BMW R1250 GS Adventure
Pretty sure oil drain plug is 42 NM, the oil filter is 11 NM, and rear Brake Calliper bolts are only 24 NM, not 30 NM.
Send me ur email I'll send u my list. Remeber torque settings are for dry threads with no oil. SUMP Will always have oil on, in actual fact I just "nip" up, don't wanna strip.
I like your cylinder head filler cap!
Where did that come from?
Wunderlich if I remember correctly.
Nice job 👍🏽 Thanks for a detailed service
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Learned something from this vid. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Beautiful video but above all congratulations for being able to kneel on the stones all this time ....😂👍👍👍👍
Joys of UK house and small garage, return to State's and more room is order of the day! Will have to sell bike though.
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing. I started losing the fear by doing a full service on an old BMW K1200GT 2003. I now feel more confident, the haynes repair manual has all the steps and torque settings. Last week I got a BMW R1200GS 2022. I'm searching for the service/repair manual to get the torque settings and all the steps just as the haynes repair manual for my GT but can't find it anywhere. I love your video, I would think that the torque settings are the same as your motorcycle...
If not, could you please tell me how you got them? Are there service manuals yet? I read that BMW is no longer selling them, I found out too late, I already bought the motorcycle (and I'm loving it after just 170km!) but I would like to do the services myself. Here in Mexico they state that if you do the service yourself it will void warranty, they also state that if we dont use the motorcycle for at least 400km a month it will void the warranty. I don't think I will use it that much for the three years, I also use the GT and cars! So for me, the warranty seems to be void already LOL.
Bravissimo....eccellente....grazie!
Very thorough, informative and well filmed video David, was just wondering how this will affect your BMW warranty mate, doing the service yourself, it will save you you a fortune doing it yourself right enough.
Here in UK I have no idea but I have proof it was serviced correctly and no problem when I lived in the US. The owners manual gives very precise directions on how to connect a HEX code reader, why would they if they didn't want you doing your own work. Time will tell and at least I know I did it right.
Think you are looking for the torque settings. Send me your email to David.bairstow@gmail.com
The USA we just have to show proof we did it..
HI, very informative video, a great help .. one question what is the make of your side stand switch protector ??
Alliexpress special
Thanks again another very useful and helpful video
Good video David, does it affect anything if you rotate the spline to grease them?
Why you are changing drive shaft oil ??? Aren't shaft made to last very very long time ????
Bezel housing change is at 400 miles, shaft out to check splines as my UK version was dry
i prefer to do my own also and do keep video records also .
Excellent Video, A1 Presentation. Thank you :) Can I ask you how you keep your exhaust downpipes looking chromium?
Haven't done anything with them
Well done sir! Thank you!
Is the motor oil synthetic? If no is it because of cost, manufacture recommendations or your preference? I always ran synthetic in all 3 of my Harleys, it dropped the temperature down big time compared to the regular motor oils. Thanks Ken
Synthetic motul if I remember correctly.
Great video David, very well done! You make it look easy! Question, I noticed when you replaced your filter oil ran over your exhaust manifold, what do you use to clean the oil from the manifold? I worry that whatever I use will leave a residue on the manifold and cause it to discolor more. Thanks!
Just an old rag, stuff like that isn't an issue, think of all the bugs and rain etc u hit. Inside of engine doesn't discolor with oil contact
Good job!机车洗的真干净。
Good job and quality video ! Thanks !
Always loosen fill plugs before draining fluids.
Yep, common sense really. I usually slacken of a little but leave closed.
Hi Sir.
Please i live in Cameroon in Africa but i love the moto R1250 GS but i donc know how To have one.
Is it possible for you to sell your one moto if you want To buy the new 2022??
Please tell me the price.
Thanks
hello beautiful job but tell me when you did the first service alone at home how is it with a motorcycle warranty
Check with dealer. I have now sold bike and moved to USA. Here warranty unaffected as long as u can show all correct work carried out
Excellent tutorial David, subbed you thanks 🙏
Thanks for the great video sir
My pleasure
Hi David!, I’ve been watching this video several times already and while I wrote down every torque value I was wondering how do you know them? I saw that Amazon sells Haynes repair manual only for BMW r 1200 gs and hesitated buying it. Do you believe that most of the torque values are identical for the 2 models? I enjoyed watching your video so that thank you!
Send me your email and I'll send you the source
@@TrailBreak-Travel Thank you so much David - I joined your photography group at Facebook and left/sent my email to your administrator there Dee Jae.🏍📷🌄
What a good point ! I was thinking the same thing ! This is the best DIY service video I have seen. Beautifully narrated and full of the information that you need to know.
You mentioned your previous 1200, so I assume you learned to do your own maintenance starting with that one? I'm guessing you have a service manual as well, since you know the torque specs, or did you get those specs somewhere else online? How do you know that BMW will honor your maintenance on the bike in regards to the warranty? I'm asking all this because I'd like to do this type of maintenance on my1250 (when I finally get it) since I've been doing most of the maintenance on my GoldWing for the past 20 years. I've never owned a new bike under warranty though.
I had BMW's since 80's. Previous GS IN US was repaired under warranty outside the then 2 year period, when a shock went and I was very impressed with them for that. I have no service manual as yet but will be purchasing the disk available from BMW when it needed as bike ages and the number of items needing attention grows. Torque settings available from several sites.
In the US, a warranty claim can not be refused if you do your own maintenance. No need to take it to the dealer to keep the warranty in affect.
@@hdk6187 I record my services to show they are done! If BMW didn't want you doing your own work, they shouldn't give detailed directions how to hook up scan tool!! I lived in US and never had issues. If they expect to give no cover for own servicing, it should clearly say on the warranty paperwork. Will be returning to US for another Probably. Anyone in the UK looking for a low mileage GS?🤣
@@TrailBreak-Travel We are in agreement, I wanted to clarify for US owners that they can do their own maintenance and not void their warranty. The law is called the Magnuson-Moss Warranty act.
Very thanks
Super video...
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the oil plug must been 42nm not 20nm
Agreed
Muchas Gracias por compartirlo. Un Abrazo.
Good day sir, I own a GS 1250 2022. I watched 3 videos on youtube and they all have a different torque for the engine oil drain bolt. You say 20 Nm and the two others say 32 & 42 Nm. What is the correct setting…where can I have the specs from BMW? Thanks, Marc Quebec Canada 🇨🇦😉🏍
I use lower setting as thread on drained sump is oiled. People have said 42 is too much and is for clean dry threads. Shops have seen bolts stripped. I literally squeeze up the crush washer and have never had issues or stripped threads.
Which make of 75W-90 gear oil did you use?
Motul
Where can we get a bmw service manual in PDF?
No idea, there are some available on ebay
Great video but am a bit confused on the torque settings for the oil drain bolt
Dealers say it 32 NM and you say it’s 20 NM
it’s a big difference we’re do you get all the bikes torque settings I can’t find them
Much appreciated.
Send your email to David.bairstow@gmail.com and I will send you the full settings. Torque settings are for dry, non oiled threads. With oil present there is a risk of over tightening and stripping the threads. I actually just nip up the bolt to just squeeze the crush washer and seal it.
Thankful
Does anyone know how to get a service manual? I have a 2023
Ebay
Does this affect dealer warranty if you service it yourself? I'm due a service now and would love to do it myself.
Not in USA if you do it correctly and can show work was done
Nice job pal thanks
What about the warranty if you need? Are you going to have trouble with bmw doing service by ourself?
Not here in the US. Just completed 12k service and found cams out of time!
Excellent video!
Nice Job and very detailed. Thank you. One question, what about the warranty ? You will loose the waranty I you will make this jobs at home? Isn't that bad?
Thanks and cheers from Romania.
Why should I loose the warranty? I have proof of the service with all parts, BMW go to great lengths to explain how to use the hex plug. I haven't seen anywhere that warranty is lost if you service yourself.
@@TrailBreak-Travel I am asking because I have a 21 BMW GSA and I would like to do the service myself but I am afraid I will loose the warranty. I have also the 911GS from Hex so I will reset the counter. What I would like to do is to follow the service check list and if I need to chack the valve clearence for example I will do it in the dealership but if there is only the oil change, I think they are charging too much
Is why I video and keep part receipts.
@@TrailBreak-Travel thank you
I find that kind of job doable from me but what about warranty ?As far as i know you must do all services on bmw authorized service to have active warranty .
Check with ur dealer. In US it is illegal to force you to dealer service to keep warranty. Everyone quotes this but nowhere is it written you have to. Do the work and either record work done or keep receipts to prove it was.
BMW would have to trade on the bike because it's missed a BMW service stamp
They can afford it!
Nice video 👍normally service my own bikes as well but won't risk it while mine's under warranty most dealers make very little on sales of new bikes and rely on service work to make a profit so can't imagine the conversation when dealers is asked about a warranty issue only to find they've not benefited from your custom ,fingers crossed 😏on an unrelated note do you have the loud tapping noise from left cylinder when engine is hot ?goes away at 2k revs seems pretty common ,I know my 2020 sounds like a diesel when hot !
Nope no noise off mine. I was advised by BMW mechanic in US when I bought my 09 to run them in pretty hard, his thoughts were the engineering is so good now that the only part needing broken in is the piston rings. Ran mine to 60k after using his advice and never used a drop of oil while others complained they had to top up regularly. As I said before BMW warranty is second to none and I do my own servicing because I enjoy it and I have a vested interest to see it done correctly. I can't comment on profit on new bikes, it's not my business but I did enquire from a bike dealer on trade in value of my 3 month old bike and they offered £6k less than I paid so somebody makes profit!
@@TrailBreak-Travel definitely agree that mechanics wont take the care we do ,I also enjoy tinkering on my bikes and previously worked on all my bikes since late 70s ,interesting ref left cylinder noise some do it some don't, allegedly BMW are aware and looking for a permanent fix ,dealer usually gives it "they all do that sir"😏
Mine too made a horrendous noise from the left cylinder. That and leaky front brake calipers. As we saw in the video, you can't even rely on BMW to grease the drive shift splines. I went back to the 1200.
Leaky front calipers fixed here by putting pressure on lever for a few hours. I love the BMW calipers and there has been no recall on them to be swapped out to Brembo's.
Did you change the oil fill cap? My 21 GSA came with the traditional BMW oil fill cap.
Changed, I had a wunderlich one from old GS.
Onde voçe conseguiu o manual de serviço sou do brasil
Eu não tinha, eu tinha as configurações de torque e sempre fiz manutenção em minhas próprias motos, então sabia como fazer isso. Tenho BMW desde o final dos anos 80.
@@TrailBreak-Travel obrigado amigo
Great video Dave. With regards to the torque settings, you seem to have way more than what is disclosed in the owners manual. Would you mind sharing your source ?
Send me your email to David.bairstow@gmail.com and I'll send you them all
Great video
Did that oil change void your warranty?
I don't think so. I know in US it is illegal to force you to have to service with them. Elsewhere I don't know but video proves correct work was done. I have had nothing but praise to sing with BMW and warranty issues and have always serviced my own.
Good except you overtightined the filter
David, congratulations!
Your video is really great. A lot of important details. Thank you.
While I was watching the video, I saw a adicional rear splash guard, and I'm very interesting in this accessory for my bike.
Would you show me more details and your experience with this accessory?
Have a nice weekend.
Take a look at the farkling video, it works well, keeps the muck and water where it should be!
With the oil drained and the filter off I always crank it over for 5 to 10 seconds to get all the old oil out of the oil pump. Doing that will yield at least another half a cup.
I don't ever want a dry oil pump, just adds wear
Thank you sir
Love the bell !!!
Nice Hidden Bell. tradition!
Not great to have such low confidence in your new expensive bike that you have to check the ds splines yourself....... ( from a GS rider also)
UK one I had not greased, this a 2022 was, so there is clearly a need
Nice job!