lead in roman water supply was likely not nearly as severe as some people think. Lead exposed to running water forms a layer of oxide that after a few days that prevents the rest of the lead from getting into the water. What was far more damaging was the Roman habit of flavoring wine with lead.
@@cancermcaids7688 I do agree his mind was fucked for sure but these often repeated stories are most likely misrepresented and missing context. It's like Nero playing fiddle while fire consumed Rome an allegory taught as fact. I could be wrong but the little I have read or infotainment consumed leads me to believe otherwise.
@@necrophagus9 RIGHT. It has been confirmed that no horse was made consul, senator, anything like that. It came from sarcastic remarks from Caligula's detractors. Nero also didn't fiddle while Rome burned, the fiddle did not even exist at the time (it was invented in the early 1600s) lol
@@maggiemae7539 Yes, but they were never called "fiddles" until well after the invention of the violin in the 1600s. Nero would have had a lyre, or a Roman harp, if that's what he was doing while Rome burned.
same is still happening with covid.....people actually scared Bill Gates/Zuckerberg/Bezos/prolly Bill Nye the Science Guy is trying to use mind control via a life saving vaccine. the US is truly the country of all time....
Oh the myth of lead pipes into lead poisoning. The pipes crust up with various minerals from the water preventing lead from accumulating in water supply.
As a 7 year old in 1963, I shot a black and white photo of an outdoor torture exhibit at Fort Michilimackinac in Mackinaw City, MI, USA. It shows the equuleus, aka little horse, with a victim upon it. Two other torture devices with victims are in the photo: a pillory on a tall platform and some type of cage that appears to be made from wood with very little room, maybe just enough room to stand. From the looks of it, it's a circular cage that may rotate. After Googling, I doubt that those devices are still on display. I never really looked closely at my photo until today, thanks to your video!
When I visited Pompeii there were male genitals carved into some of the paving stones. I asked, and was told since not all men who came to the city spoke the local language, symbols led to the brothels. There were also positions/acts posted “menu style” high on a wall inside one brothel. 😅
Can't remember if it was at Pompeii or Herculaneum, but I remember us all getting in trouble when we went with school and they showed us the guy who suffocated while "giving himself a handshake" shall we say 😂 as 14 year olds that was the funniest fuckin thing in the world
I read somewhere that the judicial system required the torture of slaves because it was assumed that the slaves master would order them to say or not say certain things so torture was the only way to get the "real truth" out of them. Very twisted logic.
I’m a little confused. At 11:35 you mentioned how Rome criticized Jews and Christians for human sacrifices, but Jews and Christians have never been known for engaging in human sacrifice. It’s explicitly forbidden Jewish and Christian scripture. I’ll grant that there may well have been sects who engaged in human sacrifice, of course.
There are instances of human sacrifice in the Bible: Abraham sacrificing Isaac (which an angel stopped) and Jesus, a man, being the ultimate sacrifice are two that come instantly to mind.
There was the false accusation of "blood libel" against the Jews, where they were accused of killing Christians (possibly others) in order to use their blood in ritual sacrifice. There was no evidence of it, but we all know how much people like a good rumor.
It was propaganda produced by the Romans at the time to demonize Christians. And to a lesser extent Jews, but Jews did not present nearly as much of a threat to the Roman elite as Christianity. They were responsible for a rebellion or two on the far edges of the Empire, whereas Christianity was spreading like wildfire throughout all corners of Rome.
Saw it personally like 2 weeks ago. Appearantly, it's so the clients could tell the prostitutes what they wanted, since many of the girls the romans brought back home didn't speak Latin.
@@Maesterful Watched a few of his videos after seeing this comment a few months ago. Dude is a bootlicker for the aristocracy/nobility. Unironically believes that the noble elite were morally superior to the peasantry.
7:50 that must-have been one HELL of a interesting conversation between the sculptor and the client about what they were looking for, and the amount of small detail in even something usually overlooked as the hooves leads me to think that the sculptor had....examples... to use to get the details down correctly.
Goats are a common animal in the Mediterranean. The sculptor would have had a good deal of visual aids to assist in his work. Sculptors, like most artists, don't need a static analog model in order to perform their craft. They use their imagination.
One objection to your list of vectors of lead poisoning. I remember reading a paper in the American Journal of Archeology back in the 1970s that showed the use of lead in pipes & waterproofing aqueducts did NOT contribute to lead poisoning. What happened was that after a brief time the lead was coated with a layer of calcium that prevented lead from leaching into the water. As for the other sources of lead poisoning... well, not only do I agree with you, but it explains the curious phenomena that under the Empire few Senatorial families survived for more than a generation or two. This failure of Senatorial families to thrive is a well-known & debated topic. (I can provide sources if asked.) Of the known Senatorial families still around in AD 200, less than a dozen could trace their ancestry back to AD 100, let alone the Republic: the Acilii Glabriones, one branch of the Calpurnii, the Cornelii Scipiones Salvienii, & a few more I can't remember offhand. I always assumed they were the victims of Roman politics -- which was a blood sport back then -- but lead poisoning would also contribute to this failure to propagate themselves.
Pipe thing sounds correct cause the USA often has lead pipes and often it's. Apparently... not the problem. But got one when ...when. ...I forgot. Maybe they changed the water source or tried to sterilize the water. They did something that made the lead leech.
@@gur262You are thinking of Flint Michigan. They switched from a river to Detroit municipal water iirc and the acidity changed and cleared out all the protective buildup in the pipes.
It's worth pointing out that carnifex means butcher and that, though this title sounds ironic, it was literal. The executioner's trade in ancient Rome was, like it's medieval counterpart, not viewed favorably by society. The carnifices were by trade butchers. When a court mandated a state execution or torture, a butcher would be sought and if none were found willing, one would be impressed into the role by the state.
@@clayton9136 I do not hear any difference with the audio levels on any TH-cam channels at all. I only watch TH-cam using the app on my PlayStation through my TV. I never watch it with my computer or phone as so many people do and they are usually the ones always complaining about it.
@13:47 Although gladiator fights were also usually nonlethal. Although gladiators were usually slaves and therefore the Romans didn't assign a very high value to their lives, they did respect the economics of the situation: training gladiators was very expensive and required a significant time investment. If gladiators were regularly dying in the arena, that would be big investments by the Lanistae (owners of gladiator schools,) that they were regularly losing. A combination of generous donations by the Lanistae to Romans running for office (you only became a senator after having held one of the public offices) + many wealthy romans being investors in gladiator schools meant that it was in no one's best interest to regularly kill-off gladiators, merely have the gladiators fight and wound each other non-lethally to have some good bloodshed to please the crowd, and eventually one of the gladiators would force his opponent to yield. An (additional) example of human sacrifice that Simon didn't talk about that the Romans DID continue to participate in regularly, (legally) even after the ban, was during the grand finale of Roman Triumphs at the Temple of Jupiter, when enemy kings, generals, nobles, etc. who had been captured as part of the military action that earned the Roman his tribute were strangled to death in front of all of Rome, who were watching from a crowd in front of the Temple
As glad as I am we don't have torture in most European countries anymore, it's worth mentioning that during that period of time it was an effective way of keeping a stable society. We shouldn't forget that populations were much smaller and crime in a sense a lot easier to commit without any modern tracing methods. Also the fear of anarchy was more present.
as messed up as the roman society was at its core, im still very exited about virtual worlds arriving at photorealism, so we could again walk around these ancient gems of history, in all their architectural/design glory!
This is still happening today with Teflon (non stick pots and pans) You should make a video on it, an entire civilization poisoned because of greed All the best to everyone
Despite their architectural and engineering achievements, the Romans were a primitive tribal group (that evolved into a primitive empire over time). They had (many!) flaws, just like any culture then or now.
@@nicolelasherWhat is that demographic? Is that an American cultural thing? Just because he holds your Left-wing anti-historical types to account doesn't mean he is wrong.
Fun fact - squirrels love the taste of lead because it is sweet. I left some old car batteries out behind my shed, the squirrels chewed off the big fat lead connections all the way down to the plastic! Do you think it tastes better with a hint of battery acid?
“Exposing “ children was one of the reasons was why the church exploded in popularity over a few generations as they rescued as many children as they could, mostly girls, then after decades most of the healthy educated girls available for marriage (especially virgins) were Christian - hence many men converted to Christianity for marriage
At the end of the triumph of a Roman general, captured king/general was strangled in front of the temple of Jupiter Maximum. This was human sacrifice in all but name only.
@5:45 Fascinatingly, the Romans were much more concerned with who was the top and who was the bottom. A Roman who patronized male prostitutes or even who had a male lover wouldn't even cause anyone to blink, so long as he was the proverbial "pitcher." For him to be the ''catcher" however was seen to be effeminate and therefore would be the cause of snickering behind his back, snide remarks, all the usual suspects when it came to high society social combat, since Ancient Rome like Ancient Greece was highly misogynistic. To be masculine was to be good and to be good was to be masculine. This was so foundational to Roman psyche that the Latin "vir," which means "man,"* is the word root of "virtus," which gave rise to the English word "virtue."' *"Man" as in "male person." "Man" as in "human" on the other hand, they would use "homo," which is why that Latin word is the one used in science, ex. "Homo sapiens"
@@spiralnapkin be it the chair, needle, or any other they've been using in the past centuries.. it's codified by law step by step how to do it. That's *ritual*
Also. Love the bit about “Look, humans kinda love t*** and c****.” The other day I saw an article about a “Sorceress’ bag of spells and charms”… (which also included some c**** to keep things extra on topic). After looking at a picture of all these trinkets payed out, I’m absolutely CONVINCED that it’s really just some kid’s “cool stuff I found on the ground” collections.
If/when the modern empire collapses… we’re talking about the sexual deviance and erotic art of Rome. Imagine what future people are going to think of us when they find our archives and say, “what’s hentai?” 😬😅
@@ScionStorm1 😆😆😆 oh man… If I could time travel I’d have them watch Wizard of Oz so they understood what a rabbit hole is. After that, I’d have them search Wizard of Oz with… other search terms. I think they’d get pretty quick how deep that rabbit hole goes and how true rule 34 is…
If society collapses, most of the Hentai itself would get destroyed in the process as a side effect as the internet itself collapses. Neither the DVDs nor players are likely to survive even fifty years. The printed forms could last much longer (if not destroyed in a fire) but even those are unlikely to last a thousand years.
@@jonnunn4196 Valid point especially considering an EMP pulse is the most likely attack any country would use. The expiration of digital storage is a great point tho. Until just now I didn’t know a high quality properly stored DVD only lasts 100 years. Who knows, maybe there’s some dirty old man with a hentai book collection properly stored in an underground bunker where he works
Remember that "deformed infants must be killed" the next time you get too carried away with how enlightened Cicero was, just because he defended Sextus Roscius against Chrysogonus.
I've worked life skills classrooms many years, and when I hear such things...I see where Hitler got inspiration. Heartless and cruel..in any generation.
The people hurt most by leaded gasoline are people born in the late 70s to early 80s. This is when lead concentration in the environment peaked and babies and young children are most effected by lead poisoning. People now in their 40s and 50s have I. Q. scores on average 10 points lower than people born 10 years later and on par (if there is such a thing) for I.Q. scores before the introduction of leaded fuels.
Come on man, you're just trolling poor metatron at this point. He's gonna get really worked up before he finds out how much you actually care about Ancient Rome.
Awesome way to answer Metatron's video. He's great too but he didn't really understand the effects lead poisoning can have on people and only cited the most severe symptoms. Really glad you brought up Jonathan Haidt and leaded gasoline/paint and the surge and later fall of violent crime as a counterpoint.
when you mentioned that parents would put recognisable amulets on their infants before exposing them it instantly reminded me of Disney's Hercules where the couple find Hercules as a baby with the amulet with Zeus' symbol on it. Kinda fucked up really lmao
Fun fact not pleasant but interesting there are 3 ways to skin a person alive 1. The method described here using boiling water or hot oil- rhe subject would generally sucome to shock from the pain 2. Live flaying-as you can imagine subjects did not last long with this method so it was considered merciful 3. Sunburn a person would be hung naked in full sunlight this method would require patience as it could weeks after the subject was sufficiently burned and blistered the skin could easily be removed- the benefit of this method is while it takes an exceptionally long time the subject will almost certainly survive but will also suffer unimaginable pain
I knew most of these things, but not the required torture of witnesses, that's savage. I 100% believe lead could have been responsible for many, many controversial things the Romans did.
It's kind of crazy how many of these things we've decided to turn back to (e.g. infanticide). Apparently, humanity really hasn't grown that much morally from then.
lead in roman water supply was likely not nearly as severe as some people think. Lead exposed to running water forms a layer of oxide that after a few days that prevents the rest of the lead from getting into the water. What was far more damaging was the Roman habit of flavoring wine with lead.
Very interesting. Thank you.
HAHAHA they put in their WINE! Figures
And cooking in lead lined pots..
I believe that "plumber" comes from the French plombier which I think roughly means lead worker
0:25 - Chapter 1 - The legal system require torture
2:20 - Chapter 2 - Lead poisonning
5:30 - Chapter 3 - Ancient rome's erotic art
8:05 - Chapter 4 - Infanticide
11:25 - Chapter 5 - Human sacrifice
I think Caligula making his horse a senator was more of a statement about the Senate than a flight of fancy lead accumulation notwithstanding.
@@cancermcaids7688 I do agree his mind was fucked for sure but these often repeated stories are most likely misrepresented and missing context. It's like Nero playing fiddle while fire consumed Rome an allegory taught as fact. I could be wrong but the little I have read or infotainment consumed leads me to believe otherwise.
@@necrophagus9 RIGHT. It has been confirmed that no horse was made consul, senator, anything like that. It came from sarcastic remarks from Caligula's detractors. Nero also didn't fiddle while Rome burned, the fiddle did not even exist at the time (it was invented in the early 1600s) lol
bunch of horse shit if you ask me...
@@cessxiiistring instruments have been around way before the 1600s!
@@maggiemae7539 Yes, but they were never called "fiddles" until well after the invention of the violin in the 1600s. Nero would have had a lyre, or a Roman harp, if that's what he was doing while Rome burned.
What's scary is that the Romans knew about the effects of lead poisoning and did it anyway. Nicander and Vitruvius both commented on it.
The same happened for teflon in 1950s.they discovered it was toxic quite fast but kept making it.
same is still happening with covid.....people actually scared Bill Gates/Zuckerberg/Bezos/prolly Bill Nye the Science Guy is trying to use mind control via a life saving vaccine. the US is truly the country of all time....
Oh the myth of lead pipes into lead poisoning. The pipes crust up with various minerals from the water preventing lead from accumulating in water supply.
A bit like today with global warming 😢
We still have lead waterpipes in the us.
As a 7 year old in 1963, I shot a black and white photo of an outdoor torture exhibit at Fort Michilimackinac in Mackinaw City, MI, USA. It shows the equuleus, aka little horse, with a victim upon it. Two other torture devices with victims are in the photo: a pillory on a tall platform and some type of cage that appears to be made from wood with very little room, maybe just enough room to stand. From the looks of it, it's a circular cage that may rotate.
After Googling, I doubt that those devices are still on display.
I never really looked closely at my photo until today, thanks to your video!
And what did the cops do ???
You should upload it to the internet!!!
Yeah, go for it!
I was a student of Dr. Nriagu at the University of Michigan School of Public Health. Wonderful man!
When I visited Pompeii there were male genitals carved into some of the paving stones. I asked, and was told since not all men who came to the city spoke the local language, symbols led to the brothels. There were also positions/acts posted “menu style” high on a wall inside one brothel. 😅
At McBrothel's choose from the new 99 cent Quickie-'meal' menu.
I know the exact carving you're talking about!
Greece is the same
Can't remember if it was at Pompeii or Herculaneum, but I remember us all getting in trouble when we went with school and they showed us the guy who suffocated while "giving himself a handshake" shall we say 😂 as 14 year olds that was the funniest fuckin thing in the world
I read somewhere that the judicial system required the torture of slaves because it was assumed that the slaves master would order them to say or not say certain things so torture was the only way to get the "real truth" out of them. Very twisted logic.
"The past was the worst" *Simon Voice*
Ancient cultures really loved their deadly metals and substances
Best way to spend my lunch break! ...alledgedly
Add a splif and a soda and you got it made
14:24 WHY IS THERE A FACE IN HIS BEARD!?!?
😂😂Thats seriously tripping me out
As a side note, the art in this video was outstanding. So many incredible artists and pieces. Wow wow wow. Really well done, guys!
Too much nudity.
@@bristoled93 what's their onlyfans?
I’m a little confused. At 11:35 you mentioned how Rome criticized Jews and Christians for human sacrifices, but Jews and Christians have never been known for engaging in human sacrifice. It’s explicitly forbidden Jewish and Christian scripture. I’ll grant that there may well have been sects who engaged in human sacrifice, of course.
Yes in fact God ordered the entire civilians killed including animals when they practice sacrificing children with fire.
There are instances of human sacrifice in the Bible: Abraham sacrificing Isaac (which an angel stopped) and Jesus, a man, being the ultimate sacrifice are two that come instantly to mind.
They accused the Christians of human sacrifice because they misunderstood the doctrine of the crucifixion and especially the Lord’s table.
There was the false accusation of "blood libel" against the Jews, where they were accused of killing Christians (possibly others) in order to use their blood in ritual sacrifice. There was no evidence of it, but we all know how much people like a good rumor.
It was propaganda produced by the Romans at the time to demonize Christians. And to a lesser extent Jews, but Jews did not present nearly as much of a threat to the Roman elite as Christianity. They were responsible for a rebellion or two on the far edges of the Empire, whereas Christianity was spreading like wildfire throughout all corners of Rome.
Out of doubt that the erotic art from Pompeii was that graphic, I decided to google it. Boy was I wrong…
Saw it personally like 2 weeks ago. Appearantly, it's so the clients could tell the prostitutes what they wanted, since many of the girls the romans brought back home didn't speak Latin.
Thank you Simon for the great video!! I hope your other channels have more videos soon.
If anyone is very (very) keen on traditional Roman mindset I hotly recommend Schwerpunkt's videos series. That stuff blows your mind
He's a bit of a nutter, to be honest.
@@stonedwizard0420What makes you say that?
@@Maesterful Watched a few of his videos after seeing this comment a few months ago. Dude is a bootlicker for the aristocracy/nobility. Unironically believes that the noble elite were morally superior to the peasantry.
Lol, I want to think this is a dig on metatrons video yesterday digging on Simon but my guess, Simon doesn't even know about metatron's rebuttal.
The scripts probably get written more than a day in advance. Funny coincidence though.
I see he's on about the lead again lol.
Hello Metatron, I know you will be here soon. Definately should do a colab with Simon.
7:50 that must-have been one HELL of a interesting conversation between the sculptor and the client about what they were looking for, and the amount of small detail in even something usually overlooked as the hooves leads me to think that the sculptor had....examples... to use to get the details down correctly.
Opo98po98o
No shit sherlock I mean the Bible says they used to do a lot of despicable things..
Goats are a common animal in the Mediterranean. The sculptor would have had a good deal of visual aids to assist in his work. Sculptors, like most artists, don't need a static analog model in order to perform their craft. They use their imagination.
R34?
Roman-XXXIV
Plenty of people watch pornography today, but very few decorate their houses with it. They were not Hippocrates
One objection to your list of vectors of lead poisoning. I remember reading a paper in the American Journal of Archeology back in the 1970s that showed the use of lead in pipes & waterproofing aqueducts did NOT contribute to lead poisoning. What happened was that after a brief time the lead was coated with a layer of calcium that prevented lead from leaching into the water. As for the other sources of lead poisoning... well, not only do I agree with you, but it explains the curious phenomena that under the Empire few Senatorial families survived for more than a generation or two.
This failure of Senatorial families to thrive is a well-known & debated topic. (I can provide sources if asked.) Of the known Senatorial families still around in AD 200, less than a dozen could trace their ancestry back to AD 100, let alone the Republic: the Acilii Glabriones, one branch of the Calpurnii, the Cornelii Scipiones Salvienii, & a few more I can't remember offhand. I always assumed they were the victims of Roman politics -- which was a blood sport back then -- but lead poisoning would also contribute to this failure to propagate themselves.
Pipe thing sounds correct cause the USA often has lead pipes and often it's. Apparently... not the problem. But got one when ...when. ...I forgot. Maybe they changed the water source or tried to sterilize the water. They did something that made the lead leech.
@@gur262You are thinking of Flint Michigan. They switched from a river to Detroit municipal water iirc and the acidity changed and cleared out all the protective buildup in the pipes.
@@blazewardogBecayse they had a VERY dumb GOP governor who failed to listen to experts.
Please please please never stop Simon dude❤
Awesome vid😊
Great content and presentation. 🇦🇺 😊
Simon I'm sure you've been three, but if not there's a great torture museum in the downtown square in Prague. Perhaps near the clock. Crazy stuff lol.
haha I just went there on Monday :D
“The dark side of Ancient Rome” I wasn’t aware there was a light side haha 😂
3:52 The book is De Re Coquinaria, Apicius is the author to whom it's attributed. And it's dated to the 1st or 2nd century, not 5th
Thank you once again fact boi.
Sunday evening, a beer, a smoke and the whistle boy dropping another mad take. Perfect.
Interesting the parrallells between times preceding the fall of Rome and modern times.
0:02...you honked 😂
Pushing through that voice crack was pretty impressive... Hats off Simon.
It's worth pointing out that carnifex means butcher and that, though this title sounds ironic, it was literal. The executioner's trade in ancient Rome was, like it's medieval counterpart, not viewed favorably by society. The carnifices were by trade butchers. When a court mandated a state execution or torture, a butcher would be sought and if none were found willing, one would be impressed into the role by the state.
Today, the word "Carnifex" is mostly used to mean...something else.
Something with claws, and bioplasma.
@@fjLKAin a grimdark world
Xenos Scum
excellent presentation
Why does the volume level differ so much between your videos?
Each one of Simon's 13 active channels usually has a different editor and they must not be using the same software as each other.
@@gugman9684 even if it's on the same channel. Some are so quiet I cant even hear unless I get an external speaker.
@@clayton9136 I do not hear any difference with the audio levels on any TH-cam channels at all. I only watch TH-cam using the app on my PlayStation through my TV. I never watch it with my computer or phone as so many people do and they are usually the ones always complaining about it.
@13:47 Although gladiator fights were also usually nonlethal. Although gladiators were usually slaves and therefore the Romans didn't assign a very high value to their lives, they did respect the economics of the situation: training gladiators was very expensive and required a significant time investment. If gladiators were regularly dying in the arena, that would be big investments by the Lanistae (owners of gladiator schools,) that they were regularly losing. A combination of generous donations by the Lanistae to Romans running for office (you only became a senator after having held one of the public offices) + many wealthy romans being investors in gladiator schools meant that it was in no one's best interest to regularly kill-off gladiators, merely have the gladiators fight and wound each other non-lethally to have some good bloodshed to please the crowd, and eventually one of the gladiators would force his opponent to yield.
An (additional) example of human sacrifice that Simon didn't talk about that the Romans DID continue to participate in regularly, (legally) even after the ban, was during the grand finale of Roman Triumphs at the Temple of Jupiter, when enemy kings, generals, nobles, etc. who had been captured as part of the military action that earned the Roman his tribute were strangled to death in front of all of Rome, who were watching from a crowd in front of the Temple
As glad as I am we don't have torture in most European countries anymore, it's worth mentioning that during that period of time it was an effective way of keeping a stable society. We shouldn't forget that populations were much smaller and crime in a sense a lot easier to commit without any modern tracing methods. Also the fear of anarchy was more present.
as messed up as the roman society was at its core,
im still very exited about virtual worlds arriving at photorealism, so we could again walk around these ancient gems of history, in all their architectural/design glory!
Love the solid gold Sub.
(Metatron looking for mistakes...)
Haha, perfect timing!
😂
Was just coming to post that 😂
@@daduzadude1547 me to. 😅 I guess Metatron will go bald 👨🦲 with frustration. Pulling his hairs out.
I would be disappointed if he didn't.
Humanity can be so disgusting
Simon had to keep his legs crossed the whole time, due to having to discuss torture and erotic art within 3 minutes of eachother
😂😂😂
boing
@@shuruff904 your fake profile doesn't fool me, Simon
But Simon it's spelled Darkseid 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 keep up the great content it makes work much less boring.
Modern Traditionalists: “The West is degenerating, we need to look to the Romans for guidance”
The Romans in question:
Do they not know that this country is modeled after Rome ?
I've never heard that before. Modern traditionalists in America, especially the conservative ones, point to Reagan.
This is still happening today with Teflon (non stick pots and pans)
You should make a video on it, an entire civilization poisoned because of greed
All the best to everyone
I think ive found 2 different yt channels that talk about exactly that
This video does not correspond with one of your newer video about slaves in Rome and how slaves lived...
Despite their architectural and engineering achievements, the Romans were a primitive tribal group (that evolved into a primitive empire over time). They had (many!) flaws, just like any culture then or now.
I wonder what Metatron is going to say about this one.
He'll say whatever a certain cheeto loving demographic will pay him to say.
@@nicolelasher touch grass
@@spacemansquid Get a job in Europe.
@@nicolelasherCheetos are delicious
@@nicolelasherWhat is that demographic? Is that an American cultural thing? Just because he holds your Left-wing anti-historical types to account doesn't mean he is wrong.
Fun fact - squirrels love the taste of lead because it is sweet. I left some old car batteries out behind my shed, the squirrels chewed off the big fat lead connections all the way down to the plastic! Do you think it tastes better with a hint of battery acid?
If our Deadpool lived back then.
Rome would have fallen, Goths and Visigoths too, khan, Chin empires as well
“Exposing “ children was one of the reasons was why the church exploded in popularity over a few generations as they rescued as many children as they could, mostly girls, then after decades most of the healthy educated girls available for marriage (especially virgins) were Christian - hence many men converted to Christianity for marriage
At the end of the triumph of a Roman general, captured king/general was strangled in front of the temple of Jupiter Maximum.
This was human sacrifice in all but name only.
@5:45 Fascinatingly, the Romans were much more concerned with who was the top and who was the bottom. A Roman who patronized male prostitutes or even who had a male lover wouldn't even cause anyone to blink, so long as he was the proverbial "pitcher." For him to be the ''catcher" however was seen to be effeminate and therefore would be the cause of snickering behind his back, snide remarks, all the usual suspects when it came to high society social combat, since Ancient Rome like Ancient Greece was highly misogynistic. To be masculine was to be good and to be good was to be masculine. This was so foundational to Roman psyche that the Latin "vir," which means "man,"* is the word root of "virtus," which gave rise to the English word "virtue."'
*"Man" as in "male person." "Man" as in "human" on the other hand, they would use "homo," which is why that Latin word is the one used in science, ex. "Homo sapiens"
Thank you 🎉🎉🎉
When your halfway through watching and realised... yep, that's another day of me thinking about the Roman Empire....
If ritual killing is confused with human sacrifice, then the US penal system still practices it..
That's ok. The US still practices infanticide too, but we're not ready to talk about that.
@@spiralnapkin be it the chair, needle, or any other they've been using in the past centuries.. it's codified by law step by step how to do it. That's *ritual*
0:57 What is that guy on the right doing ?
Humans are a bizarre species …
The lead drove them crazy
Last night in Rome and this video pops up… well of course I’m going to need to watch this now.
nice watch simon
Thank you for this knowledge season 2 Athelstan
Ah Simons fav topics, ancient Rome and Greece
Chaching... 😂
Leaving babies out in the gutter like that is unconscionable.
Also. Love the bit about “Look, humans kinda love t*** and c****.”
The other day I saw an article about a “Sorceress’ bag of spells and charms”… (which also included some c**** to keep things extra on topic). After looking at a picture of all these trinkets payed out, I’m absolutely CONVINCED that it’s really just some kid’s “cool stuff I found on the ground” collections.
If/when the modern empire collapses… we’re talking about the sexual deviance and erotic art of Rome. Imagine what future people are going to think of us when they find our archives and say, “what’s hentai?” 😬😅
These ancient manuscripts keep mentioning a "Rule Thirty-Four"...
@@ScionStorm1 😆😆😆 oh man… If I could time travel I’d have them watch Wizard of Oz so they understood what a rabbit hole is. After that, I’d have them search Wizard of Oz with… other search terms. I think they’d get pretty quick how deep that rabbit hole goes and how true rule 34 is…
If society collapses, most of the Hentai itself would get destroyed in the process as a side effect as the internet itself collapses. Neither the DVDs nor players are likely to survive even fifty years. The printed forms could last much longer (if not destroyed in a fire) but even those are unlikely to last a thousand years.
@@jonnunn4196 Valid point especially considering an EMP pulse is the most likely attack any country would use. The expiration of digital storage is a great point tho. Until just now I didn’t know a high quality properly stored DVD only lasts 100 years. Who knows, maybe there’s some dirty old man with a hentai book collection properly stored in an underground bunker where he works
Perhaps they'll have myths about Epstein's Island and its king Mickey Mouse in a thousand years.
Throughout all I could think of was "ouch"!
Can anyone tell me the name of the artist who painted the illustration shown at 0:51?
Remember that "deformed infants must be killed" the next time you get too carried away with how enlightened Cicero was, just because he defended Sextus Roscius against Chrysogonus.
Meanwhile, across "the civilised world" tens of thousands of infants in the womb are being deliberately killed today . . .
I've worked life skills classrooms many years, and when I hear such things...I see where Hitler got inspiration. Heartless and cruel..in any generation.
The people hurt most by leaded gasoline are people born in the late 70s to early 80s. This is when lead concentration in the environment peaked and babies and young children are most effected by lead poisoning. People now in their 40s and 50s have I.
Q. scores on average 10 points lower than people born 10 years later and on par (if there is such a thing) for I.Q. scores before the introduction of leaded fuels.
Feels like a toptenz topic.
My pet theory is Commodus wasn't murdered, he was being choked out in a sex game and it went too far lol
interesting correlation between lead and aggression
Come on man, you're just trolling poor metatron at this point. He's gonna get really worked up before he finds out how much you actually care about Ancient Rome.
Me might even throw a Metatantrum.
Lol, I hope Metatron makes another video. Maybe one day we'll get a FactBoi vs Metatron YT boxing match
at 8:50 does anyone else see a face in the mans beard?
Apicius, defrutum, grape must?? Where's Max Miller when we need him?!
Max needs to be careful picking out recipes from Apicius!
1:50 For FREE?! You gotta pay good money for that kind of treatment These days...lol
7:55 children under fourteen can only enter *without* supervision???
Adult supervision
Awesome way to answer Metatron's video. He's great too but he didn't really understand the effects lead poisoning can have on people and only cited the most severe symptoms. Really glad you brought up Jonathan Haidt and leaded gasoline/paint and the surge and later fall of violent crime as a counterpoint.
Yep I just seen a good video about Nero sending an expedition to try to find the source of the Nile.
Infants not just "exposed to elements," but abandonded to wild and hungry dogs
That pronunciation of Herculaneum made me cry
They were very disturbing
This could have been on your Into The Shadows channel. Pretty Disturbing.
when you mentioned that parents would put recognisable amulets on their infants before exposing them it instantly reminded me of Disney's Hercules where the couple find Hercules as a baby with the amulet with Zeus' symbol on it. Kinda fucked up really lmao
7:59 i think you mean they can only enter WITH supervision
Fun fact not pleasant but interesting there are 3 ways to skin a person alive
1. The method described here using boiling water or hot oil- rhe subject would generally sucome to shock from the pain
2. Live flaying-as you can imagine subjects did not last long with this method so it was considered merciful
3. Sunburn a person would be hung naked in full sunlight this method would require patience as it could weeks after the subject was sufficiently burned and blistered the skin could easily be removed- the benefit of this method is while it takes an exceptionally long time the subject will almost certainly survive but will also suffer unimaginable pain
I knew most of these things, but not the required torture of witnesses, that's savage. I 100% believe lead could have been responsible for many, many controversial things the Romans did.
Exposure is still a thing today, it just happens in an operating room now.
Or selling kids into sex slavery by the Mexican cartels with Washington and Hollywood blessings
I'm not a chemist, but wasn't it found that water running over those lead sheets ended up kind of coating it and preventing lead leeching?
The Romans made blind people fight each other in the Collosseum and billed at as a comedy item - that was the lighthearted side of Rome.
It's kind of crazy how many of these things we've decided to turn back to (e.g. infanticide). Apparently, humanity really hasn't grown that much morally from then.
Prolifers need to watch this because this is the future if we don't learn from the past
It's amazing that the emperor didn't take all the unwanted children and train them from birth to be soldiers.
Good point. Perhaps too many children were 'available' each year and thus it would have been costly, or they were too dumb to even think of it?
The dark side of ancient Rome is really just more lor less ancient Rome 😂
It was common until recently to use aluminium pots which is bad for the brain as well.
And Teflon, forever chemicals and plastics. Not to mention toxic pesticides and poisons or drugs
Wait! What? Jews and Christians sacrificed humans? When? What are you talking about.
I went to Rome. Did as much as i could as cheap as i could in 3 days. Really makes you feel how small a space your in time and space.
Anothee video for metatron to review
Lead was their downfall and BPA will be ours.
Amazing how many people watch Simon and Metatron 🤣
We like to spread our wings. 😁
Who's metatron
@@taiyabmahmood8274 he’s another TH-camr
He mainly deals with history
@@taiyabmahmood8274 another you tuber who specializes in history
@@taiyabmahmood8274😂 Some pseudointellectual fraud.