The tyranny of merit | Michael Sandel

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  • @vikrambhandolkar
    @vikrambhandolkar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +846

    The most kind hearted intellectual I have come across. I am not even a legal professional but I watched all his Harvard lecture series.

    • @bhuvangoyal5271
      @bhuvangoyal5271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Saaaaaaame!!
      He's just soo good!!

    • @itodoisrael9010
      @itodoisrael9010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same. The lecture series on justice right?

    • @vikrambhandolkar
      @vikrambhandolkar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@itodoisrael9010 yes

    • @TeaParty1776
      @TeaParty1776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      >kind hearted
      The black mass of the Crucifixion as moral ideal, a viciously immoral attack on mans life as moral ideal.

    • @brandonemerick6744
      @brandonemerick6744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was a very heartfelt talk indeed!

  • @Vnifit
    @Vnifit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    This is one of the most fantastic TED talks I have seen in a long time. Dignity of work is at the center of each of our ego's and the suggestion that those who don't go to college are ill-fated to work at McDonalds is part of such considerable divison. The sentiment that working at McDonalds is inherently a bad thing strips those who work there of their dignity and consequently their purpose. Without a feeling of purpose and belonging, people cannot be cohesive and communities begin to fray. Not everyone can be doctors, engineers, and laywers. There is dignity in every job and we need to acknowledge and thank those who do the required work that helps us all.

    • @charlesaway
      @charlesaway 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Absolutely. I very much agree with the concept that there should be dignity in every job; we as a society need to do a better 'job' of recognizing that. I also agree that there are jobs that serve an essential role in society, and people deserve respect and recognition for what they do. I think I diverge in the concept of remuneration for jobs based on their essential nature, however, because there are other factors to consider such as the skill specialization, education and training required to perform those duties. Access to that training and education should probably be expanded, but a doctor who requires 7 years of education and medical college or a master carpenter with extensive trade knowledge and experience can probably work at a grocery store, deliver food (some probably do!), or perform other 'essential' tasks, while the reverse is probably not true. Do people deserve a living wage in exchange for their effective contributions to society? Absolutely. However, their rates of pay should include multiple factors such as ease of performing the function, geographic cost of living factors, etc., in addition to determining whether they are essential. Regards.

    • @beegood1215
      @beegood1215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      All full time jobs should be required to provide a living wage and medical and pension benefits. There are some qualities of socialism that make a society better. Too many jobs are temporary and not leading to anything permanent.

    • @Vnifit
      @Vnifit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@Jorge Morando I don't think that was what Bee Good was saying. They were expressing that there are many qualities of socialism that really work alongside a capitalist society. Looking to Canada, Europe, and Scandinavia we can see that a combination of both works wonders for improving peoples lives. Through healthcare and welfare, to childcare and public schools, the attitude of socialism is of 'to care for thy neighbor'.
      There are no countries that do well long-term under pure capitalism, it is raw and vicious and puts people over profits. Socialism puts people above all, but lacks the ability to give motivation to progress society. A health mix of both is what makes a country great to live in, one that cares of people and provides them the motivation to give back.

    • @moonmunster
      @moonmunster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Vnifit perfect comment

    • @Objectivityiskey
      @Objectivityiskey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "This is one of the most fantastic TED talks I have seen in a long time. Dignity of work is at the center of each of our ego's and the suggestion that those who don't go to college are ill-fated to work at McDonalds is part of such considerable divison."
      -------There's nothing wrong with getting your start at McDonalds. If you end up working there for a number of years and haven't moved into management, then something wrong. McDonalds is an entry level job or first job, not a head of household job.
      "The sentiment that working at McDonalds is inherently a bad thing strips those who work there of their dignity and consequently their purpose."
      --------It is bad if you haven't moved into management.
      "Without a feeling of purpose and belonging, people cannot be cohesive and communities begin to fray."
      --------This has nothing to do with working at McDonalds in an entry level position at 40 years old. McDonalds is a transitional job for adults and a starter job for the youth.
      "Not everyone can be doctors, engineers, and laywers."
      -------True, but adults shouldn't be making excuses for not acquiring a specialized skill set and moving out of an entry level job into an adult job.
      "There is dignity in every job and we need to acknowledge and thank those who do the required work that helps us all."
      ------This is true and false for the reasons I stated above. Every job is valuable, but it's the Individual and the time spent that modifies the Individuals dignity while doing the job.

  • @taylorkim2918
    @taylorkim2918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Awesome clip. I'm having a moment of utter realisation. How lucky I am that I can just comfortably sit down on the chair and listen to his wise words

    • @pelado9293
      @pelado9293 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm currently pooping

    • @benjaminr8961
      @benjaminr8961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is far from wise. He is a dirty commie.

    • @meghanbliss2356
      @meghanbliss2356 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wise? He is terribly misinformed and condescending

    • @HonestlyHolistic
      @HonestlyHolistic ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@meghanbliss2356please explain

    • @andrewthomas695
      @andrewthomas695 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@meghanbliss2356 How so?

  • @natashapang335
    @natashapang335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I watch your video 12 years ago, that time are looking very young, now search you here. I feel how time flies

    • @lclemons123
      @lclemons123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ikr, he aged so much in this video.....

  • @SesameStreetRacingChannel
    @SesameStreetRacingChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Professor Sandel is one of the most astute academics of our time...Although I have not met him...he has become a very significant mentor in my life...and has allowed me to experience Harvard, through his lecture series. Thank you, Sir.

  • @MaymunaSaeed
    @MaymunaSaeed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    professor Sandel has profoundly influenced me- the harvard lectures and the way the way he perceives things has left me in awe. massive respect for him. May he live a long, healthy life. it hurts to see him grow old :(

    • @l.1273
      @l.1273 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I too have been very affected by him. And yes, his body is aging, but he is only growing wiser. If we are fortunate, he will grow more respected which would indicate others recognize his wisdom and that recognition, when cumulative, may have an effect on social discourse and relations; toward the better.

  • @abdirevandio1687
    @abdirevandio1687 4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Hearing this is like a fresh breeze flowing through my anxious heart

    • @rigira
      @rigira 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ASD How wasn’t he listening?

    • @CyberPsyLen
      @CyberPsyLen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hearing this scares me... it's a cold wind blowing...

    • @nescius2
      @nescius2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ASD do you have more to say than this dismissive nothing?

    • @nescius2
      @nescius2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ronald Reagan.. look who's talking about stupid :D

    • @nescius2
      @nescius2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Ronald Reagan thanks for expanding your argument, it's ..less bad now (to me): by dumb, I think you mean impractical, but dumb doesn't mean that - you can be practical and dumb business owner.. or totally impractical, yet intelligent academic..
      and he is talking about morality - being ought rather than is - i wonder how you can argue it being ignorant..

  • @chrisduplessis4501
    @chrisduplessis4501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this guy is very sharp! he says all of this without looking at notes, amazing

    • @stevensenator4804
      @stevensenator4804 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How do you know he doesn't have a teleprompter??

  • @Pkvish3266
    @Pkvish3266 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My all time favourite. I wanna meet him and take a bow.

  • @yapper58
    @yapper58 4 ปีที่แล้ว +492

    I have a brother who is literally a rocket scientist. He has a PH.D. from Princeton. My father owned a small sawmill. My brother has nothing but contempt for manual labor and today still espouses the idea that the "smart people" (him) should decide how things should be done and the less educated should sit down and shut up, even though our father became quite wealthy and enjoyed physical labor (making things) his whole life. I started stacking lumber and driving a forklift when I was 14 years old. I still work in the lumber business as an inspector (even though I have my B.A. in Sociology), which is a physically intensive form of work for a 62 year old. My brother believes I am dirt poor (I am not) and incapable of any other work even though my I.Q. tested close to his in school and I ranked in the top 10% nationally in my class. He is convinced he is socially, morally, and intellectually superior to his family. I respect anyone on my crew who do the work that is required of them. It is hard work and I don't try to make it worse for them by demanding the dangerous or impossible.

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Your brother is a douche. And I know many people like him. They are afraid of real work.

    • @onikin
      @onikin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@earthcitizen57 I do not think you were the most biased and misinformed in that conversation. But you handled it very well.

    • @gregorjerman973
      @gregorjerman973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Someday the Intellectuals will hire robot Ai as their equals and Hard working people will consider animals as their own equals.

    • @selwynr
      @selwynr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sounds like you're a natural socialist. My hat off to you.

    • @The_Original_Hybrid
      @The_Original_Hybrid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your brother is correct.

  • @Kashiku
    @Kashiku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The background sounds of the birds embellishes everything

    • @karleells8603
      @karleells8603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing from the left is songs and birds when you implement these ideas. everything falls apart

  • @ASLUHLUHC3
    @ASLUHLUHC3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +745

    This reminds me of Warren Buffett talking about how he was very lucky to be born at just the right time, in just the right place, and as a man with right skin colour, so that his skills and interests happened just what was right to make him fabulously wealthy and successful, and that if he lived thousands of years ago, he would've probably been eaten by a lion.

    • @JuVe_546
      @JuVe_546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Everyone using Warren Buffet as some sort of spiritual leader is part of the problem

    • @rogercamel
      @rogercamel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @Michael Enquist It's a hypothetical and not meant to be taken too literally. It's not really meant to mean "what if I was someone else" but more like "what if I was switched at birth with someone in different circumstances" (even if a time machine is required). Yes you'd still grow up as essentially a different person, but you would likely retain some of your traits and you wouldn't be the same as the person you replaced. It's just a thought experiment to convey how much of your success you can attribute to yourself and how much to your circumstances. The dividing line between those two things of course can be a bit fuzzy. In the end it's an exercise in empathy. "Lucky" does have connotations because it has two meanings. In this case it's helpful to use the synonym "fortunate" which doesn't.

    • @herisaputra1303
      @herisaputra1303 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ĺ

    • @wayando
      @wayando 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@JuVe_546 Warren Buffet has won the current "game" ... So it's advisable to learn afew things from him.
      The alternative is to change the system, and that is alot, alot harder.

    • @jameslasso1690
      @jameslasso1690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya I’m sure if warren buffet had been born with more “swarthy “ complexion he would invested not so wisely.

  • @FedericoLov
    @FedericoLov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Every Sandel video is a pearl of wisdom. I wish he made more

    • @ThePariskat
      @ThePariskat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've only just discovered him this week after the article 'The Politics of Pretension'. I'm going to read The Meritocracy Trap. (And yes there is something really soothing about him!).

  • @Dhtdhrtv
    @Dhtdhrtv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I barely watch TED. But this is really recommendable. I could see more than 95% of similarity between Sandell's idea and mine and this very close similarity makes me feel sure and proud of myself.

    • @nescius2
      @nescius2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that the above argument is garbage, nothing personal: there is just no argument.

    • @말까1
      @말까1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@과자-z8o "if you don't like it, leave" logic does not make the situation any better - it's only a radical nationalism approach imo. If one is truly considerate and thoughtful of the society then one should find means of making it better and fair.
      You said, money does not define personal worth and it's true - but we're talking about relativity. Relative poverty leads to sense of deprivation and confusion of social order, even if someone may not have trouble sustaining basic life. It's not just about money and jealousy, it's more about not being able to earn for what one did, which means that not 'everyone got what they deserved'. Your opinion is what could be justified in terms of bad utilitarianism, which many people including rawls has criticised, since it's just unfair.
      The lower class won't accept the fact that the rich owns 99 percent of the wealth for sure - that's what this man is talking about. The problem of meritocracy that justifies inequality (caused by luck, family background, etc). If our society was a caste system then yours would make sense; such jealousy should not happen, because they're destined to be poor, and the rich be rich. But the modern society isn't. It is ran by an ideology that everyone is born same and the chances are the same, even though it's virtually not. Being poor attributes to the poor. And they are upset, since they did not get what they deserved.
      Sandel does not directly argues socialism nor redistribution either. He is suggesting that we seek means of getting people what they deserve; making justice. The left, the democrats that you may hate are rather quite criticised in his book, the tyranny of merit.

    • @andfoundout
      @andfoundout 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nescius2 How can you not see from the pandemic that "essential workers" ARE actually the most essential workers in society, everything else relies on them, so they deserve a living wage.

    • @nescius2
      @nescius2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andfoundout ...how are you able to read what i wrote and then respond with that? .. have you even read it?

    • @andfoundout
      @andfoundout 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ronaldreagan3086 So your family only loves you because you work and make money? You only want your friends to be alive because they have jobs? You only love your kids because they will, one day, work?
      Your value is totally defined by what you do for a living?
      Having some professions be paid more than others to reflect the value of *highly* skilled work makes sense. But how can you possibly justify not paying people enough to live on, even though they work full time hours? There's demand, the demand is being met, but you don't want them to be able to live, even though they're working full time.

  • @paladinsorcerer67
    @paladinsorcerer67 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    From each their ability, to each their need. Respect the garbage worker, respect the restaurant worker, respect the retail worker, respect the janitor, respect the taxi driver, respect the auto mechanic, respect the electrician, respect the secretary, respect the office worker, respect your coworker, respect your manager, respect others so that you do good in this world.

  • @overshot8331
    @overshot8331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Dignity of Labour. Important to keep in mind.

    • @Nelgia247
      @Nelgia247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@과자-z8o true, most labourers demand more than what they can offer.

    • @karleells8603
      @karleells8603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      labour is worthless without structure and management.

    • @livery955
      @livery955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@karleells8603 Same is true vice versa, except managers need laborers infinitely more than laborers need managers.

  • @melaniaoc
    @melaniaoc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think it is v dangerous to blame "merit" in general. We do not want to encourage lack of merit, but instead we need to re-educate ourselves about what merit really is.

  • @lucaslimal3
    @lucaslimal3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I disagree with 90% of what this man says and still respect him deeply.
    Thank you mister Sandel, it is important that we talk about this.

    • @jumpstart55million
      @jumpstart55million 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you disagree with?

    • @lucaslimal3
      @lucaslimal3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jumpstart55million I think his whole ideia on meritocracy is different from mine.
      I think meritocracy comes about what you did with what you got. He thinks, and that is his critique, that meritocracy is a score bar that all should surpass. Those who do not are loosers. I know many ppl who think like that. They think that if you do not have a car, or a house, or clothes and gadgets, you are a loser. I do not think this is what meritocracy is about.
      For me, if you are getting better in life you are exerting your merit.
      The ideia of finding merit as some kind of a tiranny is counter productive in my opinion. Because it is by looking to get better, by competing and try to do more with less that we, humans, innovate and come up with solution to varius problems.
      To deny that is to create what we are seeing more and more nowadays. Ppl taking things for granted, saying that government or a privileged group should supply for them. They will not, you must seek to improve through your actions.

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lucaslimal3 Another thing everyone seems to ignore about merit is that it is not a universal measurement. Merit is given by someone to some other person for any particular activity or thing it values, someone that has been given merit in one activity do no nessesarily is meritocratical in another.
      These people attack the system rethorically or verbally but all the same apply meritocratic rules in their lives. People want things done in a "right" or "pleasant" way for them, theyll give merit to the ones providing that way they crave. I assume Mr Sandel works with people whose efficience in their jobs help him be better too. He hired them assigning merit to their cappability of doing that job.

    • @paladinsorcerer67
      @paladinsorcerer67 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Somebody has to do the jobs that most people dont want to do. Sure a person can strive to make themselves better, but for most people, that is not enough to transcend their place in the hierarchy. What you are saying is that those people dont deserve to have a decent standard of living, because the market by itself wont provide it to them. A free market society is a political choice, not an act of nature. It can be reformed and changed, to suit the wishes of the people living in the society. The people in charge of the governement and corporations make the choice to horde money for themselves and to be stingy when it comes to providing worker pay. Their main priority is to pay shareholders and themselves, not to pay employees. This is the essence of selfish behavior, corruption of the leaders of society. It is the essence of capitalism, and its Achilles heel. If people pay taxes, which is their patriotic duty, they pool their money so that they can get government services. We can debate about what is the best way to fund these services, but it is also the patriotic duty of elites to pay their fair share of taxes to help out the less fortunate then themselves. If this is not done, inequality increases to dangerous levels, and people frustrated with their place in the hierarchy, and the disrespect they feel from those lording over them, leads to societal upheaval. The peasants storm the gates of the Bastille, to behead the kings and queens who exploited them for generations. Allowing society to head in this direction is bad management.

  • @Constantin678
    @Constantin678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I admire even looking at him. So thoughtful sincere and frank

    • @linlicui4438
      @linlicui4438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too, I’m glad to listen to him

    • @Constantin678
      @Constantin678 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ronald Reagan I don’t agree with everything , I guess there is no single point of view to everything

    • @Constantin678
      @Constantin678 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ronald Reagan I guess we shouldn’t just judge one’s opinion. We may agree or disagree, partly, partly I agree, if I haven’t got enough finance to go to Harvard, I will certainly miss something

    • @karleells8603
      @karleells8603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too bad his ideas are built on false assumptions and misguided statistics.

  • @unsorted1138
    @unsorted1138 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I re-watch this video several times a year. It's a great summary of his excellent book.

  • @IbrahimKhan-sh2bg
    @IbrahimKhan-sh2bg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I am a business student but this gentlemen made me fall in love with political philosophy. It's hard to see him grow old.

    • @aniksamiurrahman6365
      @aniksamiurrahman6365 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Congratulation. You just found some great PR material.

    • @itodoisrael9010
      @itodoisrael9010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His series on justice

    • @nahtan7925
      @nahtan7925 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very same

    • @andrewthomas695
      @andrewthomas695 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Growing old is a good thing. Not everybody gets to. Don't feel bad for him. If you are lucky, you shall also get to grow old.

    • @karleells6540
      @karleells6540 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sure. How does a planned business work where you try to engineer OUT OF meritocracy? Lol

  • @deeb3272
    @deeb3272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Been watching old videos of Prof.Sandel earlier and wished there is a new one. My thoughts came true! Thanks Ted!

    • @1elt
      @1elt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @homesweet9537
      @homesweet9537 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hello wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)))))(((((((((((((((:

    • @jyang9852
      @jyang9852 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here! Wish for more books and videos from Professor Sandel!

  • @GreedApe
    @GreedApe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    As with all things, moderation is key. Thinking that everything you own and are is the result of your own merits and nothing else is a mistake. Believing that everyone who made it big is the result of the talents they were born with and luck is a mistake too. People who were very blessed with their upbringing and physical condition will oftentimes lean towards the former, while those who had a rough start to life will lean towards the latter. Both extremes dont solve any problems, but generate a fair share of them in their own way.

    • @DegreesOfThree
      @DegreesOfThree 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you think there's some kind of injustice going on, then you can spend your own money to rectify it. Otherwise, you have no right to interfere in the labor market between an employee that wants a job and an employer that has a job to give.

    • @selwynr
      @selwynr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, in some things moderation is not key. Moderate fascism, anybody?

    • @codacreator6162
      @codacreator6162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Talent and luck? No. Opportunity is only as good as one’s ability AND desire to take advantage of it - both of which are heavily impacted by circumstances. What passes me off is the lack of acknowledgment by the meritocracy of their good fortune coupled with their quick and destructive tendency to blame. Failure is a many-faceted demon. But the consequences of failure need not include destitution, the sacrifice of dignity, or shame. Period. But that’s how we’re set up right now. Moderation has nothing to do with it. The common good has been supplanted by Me First.

    • @adamkumpmusic
      @adamkumpmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This comment reminds me a lot of some of the main premises of the book “the psychology of money.”
      Great point and I totally agree with you.

  • @movitam274
    @movitam274 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thanks for sharing this fair insightful analysis. It reminds of T. Makiguchi's theories on Value Creation.

    • @lapipesmoker3751
      @lapipesmoker3751 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the reference. Values Creation is another thread in this topic that is worth looking into.

  • @JesusMotherMaryStJoseph
    @JesusMotherMaryStJoseph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Indeed! Humanity rules.There is nothing wrong with earning a bachelor's, masters or doctorate and the like. "Never look down on anybody unless you are helping them up." by Jesse Jackson. We live borrowed lives.

  • @morganalo5100
    @morganalo5100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo three times over! I watched this TED talks 5 times and I think I may watch it again and again! What he said is the truth at all!

    • @continuouslylearning6152
      @continuouslylearning6152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe if you watch it 5 more times you'll be sufficiently brainwashed

  • @kentmg79
    @kentmg79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Circumstances at birth certainly play a roll, but I also have found that for myself, and for most people who do not inherit their wealth, the words of Samuel Goldwyn ring true: "The harder I work, the luckier I get."

    • @christofthedead
      @christofthedead ปีที่แล้ว +1

      post hoc ergo propter hoc
      nice fallacy bro

  • @sailajarvi4642
    @sailajarvi4642 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a brilliant lecture from a true intellectual person! Thank you!

  • @10sno27
    @10sno27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Incredibly moving and healing. The talk on Sam Harris’ podcast also excellent.

  • @abhifootball2671
    @abhifootball2671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man just an unemployed passout from India. I don't know how we will change this meritocracy and how we will bring the most important value that we are lacking in our current fast paced world of humility, but I can confirm to the fact that his Justice series of Harvard was equal to my enlightening. It is like knowing the secrets of everything that is happening around us. I hope whoever reads this, watch those 10_12 videos. That's the most important thing that has happened in my life

  • @rickguerrero2282
    @rickguerrero2282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    That was a great video. I just started reading “The Meritocracy Trap”, and this video sums it up very well.

    • @rickguerrero2282
      @rickguerrero2282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Ronald Reagan Have you read the book?

    • @rickguerrero2282
      @rickguerrero2282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Ronald Reagan for starters, the dude who made the video did NOT write “The Meritocracy Trap”.

    • @davruck1
      @davruck1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Ronald Reagan so LeBron James is superior to you? Good to know. You’ve finally admitted your inferiority.

    • @karleells8603
      @karleells8603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmm lets think. you dont want meritocracy so i wonder if you would want a doctor working on you only because he had to be one of the "diversity hires" rather than on his merit? Yeah. this ideology falls apart under the most basic tests in the real world.

    • @rickguerrero2282
      @rickguerrero2282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately, that is not the point of the book, “The Tyranny of Merit”.

  • @Lovetoall14
    @Lovetoall14 ปีที่แล้ว

    He always had the answers!

  • @jannmikoingelrabagogamingc6012
    @jannmikoingelrabagogamingc6012 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OMG! I can't believe this amazing professor is still alive after watching his "Justice: What's the Right Thing To Do" Harvard lecture series years ago, really! I am ever so gladful that we still have him alive~

  • @loungejay8555
    @loungejay8555 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I listened to this from start to finish, and my god, it was like a punch in the face. Total wake up call.

  • @shashwatsharma2596
    @shashwatsharma2596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    One thing to remember,
    If you win, remember the role of luck and good fortune
    If you lose, work harder(do what you can with what you have)

    • @haizeabezala
      @haizeabezala 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And never forget that you could have been one of those who are "less fortunate" (this is the right term I think), so give a hand, even a small help is enough. We all need our good samaritan. Those that are successful also needed it.

    • @jake_runs_the_world
      @jake_runs_the_world 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hahah baman you still gonna cry "merit" and focus on reservations rather than caste discrimination

    • @shashwatsharma2596
      @shashwatsharma2596 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jake_runs_the_world What?

    • @littlesometin
      @littlesometin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you lose, look for the reason you lost and if there is one, organize with other people who are losing to change the rules for a fair game.

    • @chrisstory5328
      @chrisstory5328 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Work is no more dignified than the end to which one works. If you can't win with ease and grace, consider playing a game better suited to your proclivities.

  • @bluesque9687
    @bluesque9687 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Michael Sandel, I feel enlightened listening to you, learning from your talks and lectures, and I sometimes wonder, how did such a distinguished professor at an elite university develop such a generous spirit!! Your wisdom ranks way higher than us!! Is it wisdom, or is it your blessed innate character?

  • @kandice458
    @kandice458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    watching your Harvard series and you're becoming one of my favorite people in this planet.

    • @soumyavijayannp1964
      @soumyavijayannp1964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😸😸 yess.. He is my favourite too..

    • @benjaminr8961
      @benjaminr8961 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right up there with Stalin and Mao?

  • @bbt305
    @bbt305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best Ted talk in a long long time! Def of the year! Important, but simple, concise and to the point!

  • @petenrita
    @petenrita 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Smart people are smart people, regardless of degrees, wealth or pedigree

  • @srajagopal39
    @srajagopal39 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The change that is needed is the change in attitude of the people and nothing to do with meritocracy.

  • @h497554725
    @h497554725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Harvard Justice lecture brings me here

    • @Abecinna
      @Abecinna 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

  • @johnlim1270
    @johnlim1270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great thought by a great thinker

  • @mieloper1942
    @mieloper1942 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Difference between the intelligent and the wise

    • @aylbdrmadison1051
      @aylbdrmadison1051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Being intelligent just means someone has a good memory, nothing more.

    • @Chiungalla79
      @Chiungalla79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@aylbdrmadison1051
      It's also the ability to think faster, more diverse and deeper.
      Sadly, without proper education, it in no way guarantees less errors in thinking.

    • @billlong9313
      @billlong9313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@aylbdrmadison1051 One's intelligence is their capacity to use what they learn to deal effectively with new situations. With practice, just about anyone can develop and extend this capacity. WIsdom has more to do with having exceptionally prudent judgment.

    • @DaveE99
      @DaveE99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aylbdr Madison they are good at complex processing, but I wouldn’t say it means they are more right in many areas of life.

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sandel is neither.

  • @bravelace
    @bravelace 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love Michael Sandel. His class on ethics is off the hook!

  • @jezbelga
    @jezbelga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I hope this man never dies lol; it's hard to see him getting old.

    • @Rgg205
      @Rgg205 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he wont in our lifetime hes well over 200 years old now looks good for his age, and sounds like hes 400 years smart !

    • @yankieowl7663
      @yankieowl7663 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why, so that he can poison more people with this maddness

    • @Rgg205
      @Rgg205 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yankieowl7663 boy are you a dumb ?

  • @Gaooo16
    @Gaooo16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I really love who he quotes and bringing it full circle.

  • @mileskeller5244
    @mileskeller5244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Professor sandel is my favorite contemporary philosopher. This is such a heartfelt plee for us as a society to have intelligent socratic debate so as to make progressive changes. Beautifully worded professor.

    • @continuouslylearning6152
      @continuouslylearning6152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What a bunch of rhetorical nonsense

    • @mileskeller5244
      @mileskeller5244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@continuouslylearning6152 what part of that do you disagree with?

    • @Jay-xh9dl
      @Jay-xh9dl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@continuouslylearning6152 Pray tell.

    • @ronaldreagan-ik6hz
      @ronaldreagan-ik6hz ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing progressive is working in the USA. We need the 100% opposite of progressive policies to help everyone

  • @evolvedcopper2205
    @evolvedcopper2205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was quite misled by the applause at the beginning thinking it was a talk given to a crowd. Starting to miss those

  • @jworthe
    @jworthe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Everyone talks about the importance of a college degree, yet almost no one mentions that not a degrees will provide opportunities. Universities are happy to take the money of those following their dreams. But don't expect there to be high demand in your dream field.

    • @continuouslylearning6152
      @continuouslylearning6152 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      College graduates come out with this sense if entitlement like because they went to college they're owed something.

  • @catsymousie7611
    @catsymousie7611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a beautiful thought!

  • @CJusticeHappen21
    @CJusticeHappen21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    The dog at the front of the pack forgets that he's not the only one pulling a sled.

    • @duodot
      @duodot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Huh, that's an apt metaphor.

    • @rboydphotography
      @rboydphotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      but who is at the front of the pack? the CEO or the manual workers? both consider themselves essential to the business functioning and know little to nothing about the work done by the other 🤷‍♂️ it's very apt metaphor, but can apply in so many different ways as to be equally vague and confusing.

    • @CJusticeHappen21
      @CJusticeHappen21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@rboydphotography You forget, or perhaps you don't know...the dogs are pulling a sled. A sled is put there by a driver, who rides the sled while the dogs do the pulling. The front dog might have more power than the dogs behind it, but it's still a dog pulling it's Master.
      The dogs starring at the hindquarters of the dog in front of them often forget the man behind them, the one who rations the food and the one who cracks the whip.

    • @DegreesOfThree
      @DegreesOfThree 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is it the dog that gets the sled from point A to B, or is it the brain of the man steering?

    • @CJusticeHappen21
      @CJusticeHappen21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@DegreesOfThree Both. The man goes nowhere without the dogs, and the dogs go everywhere without the man.

  • @evanlee6546
    @evanlee6546 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Prof. Sandel, can you get together with Anand Girardharas, and others who have seen this set of issues, and get the biggest stage with the biggest microphone possible to get the leaders of the world to wake up!! Spot on and thank you. I had already started reading your book when a friend alerted me to this video

  • @aggedyran
    @aggedyran 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent, thank you so very much! Everyone in the U.S. needs this reality check.

  • @jamescolahan9023
    @jamescolahan9023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the truth for our entire world culture today.

  • @MoMo-iz4gn
    @MoMo-iz4gn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Korean medical school students should watch this.

    • @sungryongpark
      @sungryongpark 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure. Meritocratic doctors in south korea are insisting that they would not attend national doctor examination if government doesn’t go back form the policy to enlarge quantity of doctors.
      They are meritocratic group dangerous for patients to give their body to them to be cured.
      It’s really shameful.

    • @yoshi9358
      @yoshi9358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sungryongpark Isnt more trained doctors better for everyone ? Except maybe other doctors

  • @victoriataylor8778
    @victoriataylor8778 ปีที่แล้ว

    we love Michael Sandel ❤

  • @DiogoVKersting
    @DiogoVKersting 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    There's a great book on the matter called The Case Against Education (Caplan).
    The argument is that the reason so many low-skill jobs are requiring college, is due to a something called Credential Inflation.
    Diplomas are mostly about "signaling", and not really about what you actually learn in University (Courses like Engineering, which have "real" value by the work market for the learned material are the exception, not the rule).
    Education is already extremely wasteful due to extreme interventions of government on the Education market (such as loans which would never exist in a free market).

    • @duodot
      @duodot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hmm, true. So you're saying education has become more like a filter, a currency needed to get a job, because "everyone" is getting it?

    • @DiogoVKersting
      @DiogoVKersting 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@duodot I think it'd be better if you looked at the information directly from the source (Bryan Caplan), as he can explain better than I can. But basically if all you're doing is "signaling" that you score high in intelligence, conscientiousness and conformity to a potential employer, the actual number of years studied doesn't really matter, as long as most of your peers also study for a similar period.
      Without "virtually free" loans, the pricing system would incentive people to have less credentials in number of years. As a hypothetical example, imagine the number of people graduating from uni each year is way down... Someone hiring a waiter would look for good high school grades, and not demand a university degree. And those that do graduate will be more likely to actually work in the field he studied.
      People are still going to find ways of "signaling", but those are going to be way less resource-intensive (i.e. wasteful).
      The title The Case Against Education, implies that we could have very similar, if not identical worker productivity even if we made enormous cuts in government spending/subsidies in education. In fact, due to the reduction of resources "wasted" in education, one could argue society would end MORE productive.

    • @duodot
      @duodot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DiogoVKersting Mm, right. I guess the employers can afford to be picky when the whole pool is overqualified.
      That being said, I don't think cutting spending on education is the answer, although I see your point. More efficient use of the allocated funds, sure, but that's just a result of the school existing mainly to create a mass of mediocrity and not support the bright and gifted. But the complexity of the education required to function in today's society is surely greater than it was 50 years ago, so thus the increased education kinda makes sense. But still. Not everyone needs, or rather benefits from, higher education.
      I'll check out your source, thank you.

    • @1elt
      @1elt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @DiogoVKersting
      @DiogoVKersting 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@duodot Yeah, that's exactly it. The worst part is that if employers are not "picky" (i.e. selecting the best "signalers" they can afford), there's a good chance they'll end up with employees with lower average "productivity". That said, I wonder if at some point, being too overqualified might start to negatively affect motivation and therefore productivity.

  • @DarkMoonDroid
    @DarkMoonDroid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bless you, Sir!
    So glad DAVOS listened to you!
    What a surprise that was!!

  • @SocPro
    @SocPro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow. I had tears after watching this

  • @saimahirani3836
    @saimahirani3836 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks 🙏

  • @richardsagala3186
    @richardsagala3186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Humility a virtue indeed

  • @DizzyBusy
    @DizzyBusy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I was a child, Umberto Eco was like my leftist papa. Who would have thought that many years later, my beliefs in workers' rights will be emboldened even more by the books written by a Harvard professor from the US about the flawed distribution of merit, questioning capitalist orthodoxy? Yet here I am, totally a fan.

  • @tgkprog
    @tgkprog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A new ted every other day is good. Equality is important, but isnt success a mix, that is always there. Its always a mix of capability, chance and whether you actually try...

    • @iincisif8599
      @iincisif8599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it's a matter of chance, success is a matter of chance.

    • @cla99009
      @cla99009 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anybody who's actually studied it knows that success (at least in the Western Capitalist sense) is more a function of effort and perseverance than of talent and luck.

    • @ettorefagioli1012
      @ettorefagioli1012 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're interested go check out the last Veritasium Video on this topic. this could clarify many things! Have a good day

  • @dot73
    @dot73 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This man is an extraordinary human. We need nothing but decision makers like him.

    • @jamesbrown99991
      @jamesbrown99991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is how you get communism.

    • @jamesbrown99991
      @jamesbrown99991 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Michael Enquist I'm pretty sure that wages differ in all those countries depending on level of skill, education, etc. You could say that people are paid differently according to "merit", and market demand.

  • @guidoghirardi2985
    @guidoghirardi2985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Powerful analysis. Merit is for sure a major factor and one should be proud of success, BUT using it as an excuse to just don't take into account the other factors and look down on people who have their struggles in life is for sure one of the roots of today's political conflict. Many people feel unheard and discarded... this whole myth that the poor are simply "lazy" is so low resolution that really makes you wonder if the upper class super-achievers actually dont want to deal with some uncomfortable truths.

  • @mediatorjawad
    @mediatorjawad 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A lot of what Sandel talks applies so much to India.

  • @vvlist
    @vvlist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you Michael. The world needed your talk.

    • @brennanwn
      @brennanwn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I KNOW great advice

    • @1elt
      @1elt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @김재영-j2d
    @김재영-j2d หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    경쟁을 강요하는 세상
    배려와 존중을 강요하는 세상
    그리고 그사이에서 방황하는 자아

  • @jimmyliu_youtube
    @jimmyliu_youtube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Michael. We need trust, more than ever.

  • @claritamerlos3769
    @claritamerlos3769 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great !! You Sir Is the best teacher for new generation thankyou .. God bless you and God bless USA 🇺🇸😇😎♥️

  • @THE1stBRAINinTOWN
    @THE1stBRAINinTOWN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Very important message for americans. Some european countries already have a similar culture to what is described as necessary in the video, and it does work out well for them.

    • @continuouslylearning6152
      @continuouslylearning6152 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You current way of life WILL fail within 10-15 years. I promise you.

  • @Mike__G
    @Mike__G 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started out with a part-time job as a janitor and a crappy apartment and a kid on the way. I got a crap job in tech and took course after course for over ten years. I still don’t have a degree, but I was kicking butt because I gained marketable skills and I worked my butt off. My work day was often 16 hours while others had a lot of leisure and fun. Lots of people opposed and oppressed me along the way and put me down. I was always too stupid to know when to quit. So I succeeded. Merit is everything. Tyranny is anything but.

    • @Mike__G
      @Mike__G 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @karrie36 Working hard and smart with persistence is a cliche? Expecting the world to hand everything to you is the way to go? How naive and ignorant can you get?

    • @Mike__G
      @Mike__G 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Andreas Becker That was what was implied.

  • @neuro.weaver
    @neuro.weaver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The only problem with meritocracy is either when there is not enough or it gets diluted and soiled. We need to learn the value of saying "No".
    "No" you are not good enough for high school - go to a vocational school.
    "No" you are not good enough for university - go to a technical college.
    The Germans and Dutch have been applying this to great success. They have better trained professionals and happier people.
    University degrees lost their market value when they were given out en mass. Now the very same mistake is repeated with Graduate degrees and even PhDs. And obtaining one neither proves training nor is it proof of ability.
    Because, "No", everyone cannot become anything they set their minds to. THAT is reality.
    Anything else is just ego-pandering, and turns petulant children into frustrated adults.

    • @ratsu2641
      @ratsu2641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      here here

    • @dside_ru
      @dside_ru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both the value of saying "No" and *the capacity to not take "No" as an insult* as the speaker mentioned. That's something parents can instill in their children, but often don't, instead reinforcing the idea that them not making it until the very end of the education ladder somehow makes them a failure.

    • @calebnewton_
      @calebnewton_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dside_ru I think you make a good distinction here. The "No" is not a personal attack, it's meant as a helpful assessment given the experience and capability of the individual being assessed.

    • @dside_ru
      @dside_ru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@calebnewton_ that's the idea, yes. With this thread in particular the devil is in the "not good enough". It's a harmful oversimplification that tends to mislead, because people generally strive to be "good", but cannot always define what "good" means (and in general it doesn't mean anything at all; it's one side of a certain distinction, but what distinction?).

  • @windfall35
    @windfall35 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've watched this academic on several channels...and continue to be puzzled by each of his presentations. If I can describe it accurately, he sets out a narrative of statements that he wants us to accept without any factual evidence to support them. He says many nice and aspirational things including the nobility of work and the need for workers who do very basic tasks. Opportunity, pay and recognition...a spiritual transformation. it feeds what most of us ordinary folks want to believe and I'll bet he's getting lots of attention from the entertainment media. I don't disagree with his aspirational statements but forgive me if I believe something different than the accident of birth made it easy for me to become a doctor...or a scientist or a capitalist employing hundreds of thousands of people. Most of the very (very) successful people I have come across in my life in fact started from very humble beginnings- (some were way behind the eight-ball in fact). Many of the most talented people I've watched do not have University degrees (and they almost uniformly believe that Universities are not the place to learn if you want to be successful). The most pernicious omission of this breezy academic person however is the failure to recognize the level of work and effort and focus and application it takes for most of the most advanced roles in our society. You don't get there because of daddy's money - You're likely working thousands of unpaid hours and you're not home most evenings and many weekends. All work is noble and all who work deserve recognition. But some roles are vastly more important and demanding than others. And those that undertake to do them live very differently than I do.

  • @DTwoHS
    @DTwoHS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The downvotes are people who wrongly assumed what the talk would be about after 1 minute, peaced out, and missed a great talk.

    • @Objectivityiskey
      @Objectivityiskey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard his lecture and it's full of fallacies and just blain bone head none reasoning. Kinda what I would expect of a Collectivist.

    • @nescius2
      @nescius2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Objectivityiskey you are full of fallacies.

  • @mathquir190
    @mathquir190 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The responsibility of the best, in a society, is to give a hand to others around. Not a fist.

  • @SuperAtheist
    @SuperAtheist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Earnings are not the same as winnings
    .

    • @karleells8603
      @karleells8603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Earnings are worth more than the redistribution of earnings. Sandel is an idiot.

  • @KosmicKitchen
    @KosmicKitchen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I read prof. Sandel's book. He is spot on but I am not sure if, years after the pandemic, we learned the lesson.

  • @26afc
    @26afc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Tyranny is defined that which is legal for the government but illegal for citizenry. Is there anybody who keeps fighting for their dreams to whatever it takes? ✊🏼

    • @bosslifecigarclub7993
      @bosslifecigarclub7993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice quote 👌🏽

    • @trendishysupport5581
      @trendishysupport5581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wooowww Savageee

    • @Miranox2
      @Miranox2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wrong, that is not the definition of tyranny. Have you tried a dictionary?

  • @jayashreej9931
    @jayashreej9931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love watching ted talks ...

  • @gaberouse3351
    @gaberouse3351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is extremely important right now.

  • @maggiexu3323
    @maggiexu3323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All labor has dignity.

  • @J0hnBr0wnsB0dy
    @J0hnBr0wnsB0dy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    For anyone who is interested in learning more about this concept, read The Meritocracy Myth by Stephen J. McNamee.
    I read and studied this for a Sociology course and it was fascinating.

    • @zaru1503
      @zaru1503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dont use it for real life, its the same in my country, they teach it in school so they can have more depended people, till you destroy society like Cuba, Venezuela, Argentina, etc.

    • @J0hnBr0wnsB0dy
      @J0hnBr0wnsB0dy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zaru1503 you're not my real mom

    • @brennanwn
      @brennanwn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Will do 😎

    • @J0hnBr0wnsB0dy
      @J0hnBr0wnsB0dy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Max Johnson ok

    • @J0hnBr0wnsB0dy
      @J0hnBr0wnsB0dy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Max Johnson ok

  • @babychan10
    @babychan10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why can't we have someone like Michael Sandel lead this country....

  • @franciscojavierhernandezp1685
    @franciscojavierhernandezp1685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The main issue of this statement refers that the salary is not defined by the importance of your job, rather it is unfortunately defined by the law of offer and demand (a basic economical rule that has defined all societies during the entire human history). Therefore, there are no chances to change this distribution only by a philosophical public decision or wish, in special when resources are scarce (despite that we agree that these good wishes sound fair, but they are unfortunately unpractical). That is, there will be always someone that will be able to do the same job by a lower salary when you talk about of a not qualified job that is well paid, i.e., a job that you don't need great skills, therefore, anyone can do it (if you increase the salary you will have a massive demand for that position). In contrast, if you have a company and you decide to duplicate salaries, it is very likely that your company will be not profitable with time and your company will be disappeared with time because of the natural market competition.
    Unfortunately, the rule that defines the economy does not match with social wishes. We still live in a society that resources are scarce, therefore, the salary is basically defined as the minimum payment that someone will afford to pay you by your services and skills. For example, if humans invent a robot that can cure people better than doctors, there will not demand to pay for human medical treatments.
    How can you change social behavior just with good wishes?. Everyone agrees that everyone should get a better salary, but the reasonable question is How can you do it?.
    I agree that the world is absolutely unfair for most people and there is a lot of injustices about wealthy distribution and opportunities. I agree that only a small percentage of the population has real opportunities in life, however, we are in an age of the history that people have more opportunities than in the entire history of humanity. Noting that people that live in developing countries have still lower chances that someone that lives in the USA. How are you going to balance it (with good wishes?). The solution is not only to point the problem out.

    • @calebnewton_
      @calebnewton_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another thing about the system we see around us is taking risk into account. The more risk you take on personally the more you will be profitable if the venture is profitable. That's part of how we reward success in a meritocratic free market.

    • @bellablackmist5033
      @bellablackmist5033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, such a thing could be effected by attitude actually. At least to a point. With the current political climate it's highly unlikely, but a combination of laws that prioritize locally found employment, material sourcing, ECT, and a public attitude that prioritizes the fact that the whole point of working to afford one's life and not necessarily to contribute to their employer (how the american economy is designed to work), not to mention enforcing anti monopolistic law, we could, in theory, solve this issue to a satisfactory extent. I however believe our commerce and our government have become too intertwined for that (via the iron triangle and whatnot) to work well now, since the iron triangle kind of cuts public interest out of the picture.
      I however think this ted talk was more about being kind to each other than actually fixing a physical imbalance in our system, though I'd prefer to talk about how to solve things much more. 😅

    • @Wojtecher
      @Wojtecher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The answer is legislation, and In a democratic society public opinion equals law. Yes, if allowed to do so, purely profit oriented businesses will trend towards the lowest wages possible, but they don't need to be allowed to do so. The ideal form of government is not capitalism, shown by the lack of any successful capitalist economies unless you use extremely loose definitions.

    • @WillOfTheWeb
      @WillOfTheWeb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You're logic is basically saying 'Well that's the way it works and always has worked'. The problem is that the entire system is broken from top to bottom.

    • @ivanandreevich8568
      @ivanandreevich8568 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Learn some economics.

  • @라스네터-v8y
    @라스네터-v8y 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    P1 0:27
    P2 1:01
    P3 1:53
    P4 4:59
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  • @edmond4005
    @edmond4005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This talk is great.

    • @1elt
      @1elt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      as his others talks..

    • @leonardu6094
      @leonardu6094 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Economists and Philosophers that love critiquing the idea of meritocracy without addressing the problem of Genetics and just how much of a role they play in our lives, are really doing their audience a disservice.

    • @Objectivityiskey
      @Objectivityiskey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have no clue about reality and are very naive.

    • @nescius2
      @nescius2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leonardu6094 do you really have an argument or just pulling your shirt? do you really want to argue for inferiority of people based on genetics? i hope you have a *very good evidence..*
      is what you call yourself only your genes?

    • @leonardu6094
      @leonardu6094 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nescius2 "do you really want to argue for inferiority of people based on genetics?"
      "is what you call yourself only your genes?"
      Lmao leftists really are a delusional bunch. Homeboy really just misconstrued my statement. No response. Go get some coffee bro and take a break from the internet.

  • @FarbotBurunetNia
    @FarbotBurunetNia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you.

  • @mgh62000
    @mgh62000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Merit is not the issue. If we were a true meritocracy, society would be far better off. The issue is sociopaths (a lot but not all of CEOs and finance people score high on the sociopathy scale) who misuse the term merit.

  • @lichtloper
    @lichtloper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "All labour has dignity" Finally - here's someone who aknowledges this truth!
    I'm reading just now mr Sandels fascinating book aboutr meritocracy. Very enlightening.
    PeterK [NL - EU]

  • @HerosEloi
    @HerosEloi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    His speech is so rich, lovely, so inspirational, and also naive...

    • @iincisif8599
      @iincisif8599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      stfu instead of stating an opinion without anything to support it, no one cares that you think that 2+2=x if you don't tell why , you dont even realize that?

    • @miraakibaakib6774
      @miraakibaakib6774 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So it's 👏

    • @cla99009
      @cla99009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's right about some things, and misleading about others. It's amazing and disappointing to see how easily swayed people are by eloquence and passion.

    • @dside_ru
      @dside_ru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Regardless of whether I agree, you aren't convincing anyone by refuting the speaker's message without saying why. It just comes off as empty gloating.

    • @iincisif8599
      @iincisif8599 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dside_ru you said the same in a better way, nice

  • @angusorvid8840
    @angusorvid8840 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This man makes too much sense. More people need to hear his message. He's right.

  • @ShikiraPressley
    @ShikiraPressley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a man and what a brilliant ethical conscience that should be taught in schools/colleges world-wide over. What is most remarkable about Sandel is that he "subscribes to a certain version of communitarianism (although he is uncomfortable with the label), and in this vein he is perhaps best known for his critique of John Rawls's A Theory of Justice. Rawls's argument depends on the assumption of the veil of ignorance, which Sandel argues commits Rawls to a view of people as "unencumbered selves". His opinions are 100% accurate and absoloutely defy the soci-economic, political and moral stance that so many wealthy people detatch themselves from the very reality they selfishly indulge in a fantastical self-appointed universe. 👍👏👍👏👍👏

    • @karleells6540
      @karleells6540 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The tyranny of merit is insanity

  • @vidhiagrawal3
    @vidhiagrawal3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A moral perspective into work and labour. Great!!

    • @karleells8603
      @karleells8603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      work is based on merit, not morality. OH my god.

  • @palealeable
    @palealeable ปีที่แล้ว

    Powerful statement that Larry Temkin and Richard Arneson should pay attention to.

  • @theodorej.burkhardt8844
    @theodorej.burkhardt8844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’d love to seen Michael Sandel and Jordan Peterson debate. Two thoroughly respectable intellectuals from both ends of the political spectrum.

    • @isleastron8251
      @isleastron8251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. I searched if they have video together but unfortunately there's none.
      Can someone reach to them to make a discussion about important topics today? Haha. Just hoping.

    • @selwynr
      @selwynr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Peterson is a fraud, a bad thinker and a straight out liar. His misrepresentations of Marxism would be embarrassing in a high school essay. WTF are you talking about?

    • @theodorej.burkhardt8844
      @theodorej.burkhardt8844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@selwynr Give one reason his interpretation of Marxism is false.

    • @continuouslylearning6152
      @continuouslylearning6152 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@selwynr All you did was expose yourself as a fraud, bad thinker, and liar. That's all you people ever do. Peterson is superior to you

  • @iemozzomei
    @iemozzomei 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And that's the crux of most societies now. The founding assumptions is that effort will be rewarded, however it's patently clear that not only effort, but luck is instrumental to success.

    • @aylbdrmadison1051
      @aylbdrmadison1051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not just luck, but also race, gender, sexual orientation, good looks, age, etc. But more than anything else: class.

    • @iemozzomei
      @iemozzomei 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aylbdrmadison1051 Yup, definitely. I'd consider them all to be included under luck, but its definitely important emphasising just how broad the scope is of "luck". Too many people use a restricted definition of luck to argue against their own privilege.

    • @vargas0897
      @vargas0897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The question is what are the percentages? How much is it effort, skills and hard work, and how much is it the other things (good looks, age, gender etc). Not so obvious

    • @iemozzomei
      @iemozzomei 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vargas0897 Yup, and it would also vary based on the values of said society as well. An absolute b**ch to put quantative values on.

  • @BobQuigley
    @BobQuigley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thanks Mr Sandel!

  • @moeadel75
    @moeadel75 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing! Thank you, sir!

  • @itouchtheskyilovetrentino
    @itouchtheskyilovetrentino 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love this talk. Thank you so much for talking about this topic.