Hydrogen: Checkmate to OIL’s Dominance? - VisualPolitik EN
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How can we harness hydrogen for energy? What are its advantages? Does this technology really have a future?
In this video we will answer these questions and give you all the essential details to learn more about a technology that many scientists and experts believe could be the solution to all the energy problems and challenges that exist today. Could hydrogen be the checkmate for the powerful fossil fuel industry?
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Instead of wasting 6 seconds going" you wanted science, Ha not on this channel" then you go ahead and explain it anyway.
Hahahahahhahaha, this channel do works to mister Soros, indeed!
I really expected to see the country Chile in this video
Not related to your comment but thought I'd let you know that hydrogen buses may be around at least in the uk quite soon as Wrightbus in Northern Ireland owned by JCB is well on the way to producing a hydrogen bus.
Indian,Russian & China are in race for hydrogen fuel experiment has already started......
Here in Canada, we dump electricity daily during low uses periods for hydro generators and when we power down our reactors. During these periods, we pay our U.S. neighbours to take our electricity surplus because the problem is that our system have no storage capacity. Compress liquid hydrogen and the fuel cell will solve that. Lithium batteries are expensive, bulky and degrade over short periods of time which is why industry such as hospitals that require a constant reliable source of electricity still use diesel generators as a backup. The amount of time hydrogen can be stored is limitless which is why no company has abandoned r&d. The question is not how to use it but rather when will it be implemented.
Garald,
why doe sCanad have such a poor mix of generation? You should not have any significant power excess. Any good grid needs a large proportion of dispatchable power.
Storagae is wasteful and not a true solution.
Germany has 91 Hydrogen stations, 16 in progress of being built and at least one regional train line with Hydrogen train in operation.
And you've forgot to mention biggest interest group in Hydrogen - Metallurgy - who are looking at hydrogen as a material for zero carbon Steel production
Interesting but where will they get the carbon to make the iron steel?
@@anthonyyates9003 Hydrogen is mixed with Carbon Monoxide
@@Gastell0 ok so what you are saying is less carbon steel not zero as some will escape
@@anthonyyates9003 what is meant is zero carbon emissions from the steel production process!
@@rolandsuch ok
A plane flying with hydrogen as a fuel would be a sight to see.
Tsa sweats with fear.
Everybody going green should remember, that Hydrogen is kind of flammable... I'm talking more flammable than current jet fuel...
This reminder was brought to you by the Hindenburg gang.
@EpyonX That is not a valid argument. Unless you come up with a specific way of ensuring comparable safety to jet fuel, the gang's reminder stand's.
Getting zeppelin vibes
@EpyonX The person making the claim bares the burden of proof. You said something vauge and people want to know more.
They want to know what you know. The fact you're not shareing what you know makes you sus.
I've been seeing quite a few Nexo's here in S.Korea despite the lack of infrastructure. I live in the present, hence Kia Soul EV.
Hydrogen-based. Perpetually the fuel of the future, never the fuel of the present. Also a Kia Soul EV owner here. :-)
You have to change the FPS you’re filming at so you don’t get the light flicker in the blue backlight
I didn’t even notice it
The light needs a better LED driver.
LOL. I noticed only after reading this comment
These are the early signs that the oil companies and oil-rich countries will soon go out of business! ⚠️
On the contrary. They get second life selling you hydrogen from coal and gas cheaper than that from electrolysis.
@@NoHandleToSpeakOf But, where do they get that from though?
Remember, the oil-rich countries are rapidly diversifying. If the CEOs and boards of oil companies had any brains, they would follow suit.
@@coreymcmahon7312 I wouldn’t think they are diversifying fast
@@coreymcmahon7312 They can’t catch up too fast.
Nice video, but you missed a revolutionary new H2 Invention from the Fraunhofer Institute in Dresden. They extract H2 into a grey paste wich is filled in small plastic cartridges (like silicone cartridge for the home usage). It could be storaged at room temperature and normal atmosheric pressure instead of 70000MPa. You could sell the cartridges at regular gas stations. You only need to fill in additional water for the Fuel cell process. Only disadvantage: you need additional Magnesium for the Paste, which production is also not fully green yet, but it solve the H2 storage, pressure and temperature issue.
The problem with this has been shown that they are not very energy dense. Meaning you either need more of them, which increases weight, which in turn reduces range, or you need to make them more energy dense, for which the technology just isn't there yet.
In the canary islands there is a project to produce Green hydrogen with marine wind farms, I hope it's not a boondoggle and works
Hydrogen is the best long term energy storage solution for excess green energy. In Germany we have underground caverns to store natural gas for a whole winter, back from the cold war days, to secure our gas supply. Within the next 15-20 years those will one after the other get converted to Hydrogen storage.
@@Psi-Storm cool
The most amazing part about hydrogen fuel cells is taking excess renewable energy and creating hydrogen which can be stored as a giant battery. That hydrogen can be used in a fuel cell to create electricity or be pumped directly into hydrogen vehicles. Bloom Energy will lead the way in hydrogen fuel cells.
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The main problem for hydrogen is thermodynamics, don't see getting around that one any time soon. There will be a large hydrogen market but not for road transport BEV's are cheaper and easier and will remain so.
As they said in video you will need hydrogen for heavy freight vehicles like trucks, buses, ships, railways (in Germany the hydrogen trains are already in service) and aeroplanes. Necessary infrastructure will have to be built, which will in the long run push the price of the hydrogen down. And then battery EV are screwed, because you can make hydrogen personal car, but certainly can not do battery train or plane.
Also important advantage of hydrogen, what is not mentioned in this video, is that you do not run into issues with supplies of lithium and rare earths, as is the case of batteries. So geopolitically it is much more acceptable alternative
What is the issue with thermoelectrics and hydrogen?
@@AB8511 You can't get around thermodynamics and what that does to the economics of it. Do you know what elements are used in a fuel cell?
@@neodym5809 Changing from one energy state to another incurs loss of the amount of energy you have. With hydrogen that amounts up to quite a bit, then other issues that waste far more energy than will just staying with electricity such as transporting it.
As I said there will be a large hydrogen market but not for road transport, especially when FSD comes.
@@turningpoint4238 true, but not an exclusive issue of hydrogen. Fuel cells in particular have a great energy efficiency. And if you see excess energy from renewables as the main source, the issue disappears. An battery is fully charged at one point, an electrolysis plant is never fully charged.
thanks, thats exactly saying everyone when having the electric vs. hydrogen conversation with someone
The regional trainline in my area is switching form diesel to hydrogen (until 2022/23), produced form water with electricity form a hydroelectric dam.
That country is?
What a waste! Hydroelectricity is a highly maneuverable generation source that is used to balance a grid. Water reserves for hydroelectricity are scarce. Most water reserves are at record low at the moment. In reality you are being lied to. Electricity will be taken from a grid where most of it is produced from fossil fuels.
@@NoHandleToSpeakOf Not in Germany ;) They are replacing some diesel trains with hydrogen. And a lot of wind energy is wasted because it can’t be used. So as always it depends. Saying you been lied to without context is a weak argumentation, usually done by people that can’t think straight.
@@NoHandleToSpeakOf in some countries hydroelectric energy is in abundance their is several small countries that get literally a 100% of electric
@@tachy1801 Maybe in the future with batteries. In some areas it not possible to build overhead contact lines. And some of these connections have a very low frequency so the cost of building overhead contact lines are not economically.
This was a bit underwhelming. There's more things you can do with hydrogen - you can for example mix it with natural gas and make your home heating more ecological until we have better solution and so on.
Heat pump.
Which is true, a basic commonly ducted electrolyser can be used to make a 1:1 mix of NG and medium water gas, drastically lowering NG use. Makes it burn a lot cleaner, and the cost of water and electricity is very beneficial. Commonly ducted electrolysers, also called neutral electrolysers are cheaper to make and more efficient than normal electrolysers. The reason for this is that the neutral electrolyser doesn't need a PEM, and you don't have to think about how to neutralise the ionised water. It also is a lot more efficient in hydrogen production. The oxygen is another part of equation that is understated, as it makes the NG burn cleaner, too.
It's a good alternative, I've been hearing about it's potential for 20 years.
I am afraid the message will remain constant for the next 20 years... It will always be promising.
Heres to 20 more years 😂🥂
@@propofol-98 I completed several Automotive courses and a Diesel Mechanics certificate program back in 1996. Hydrogen fuel cell technology was covered even back then, as well as natural gas, which was being used on buses and certain fleet trucks. I still remember the Saturn EV1. A lot of this technology, keeps being brought back.
Herbert Diess, CEO of German automaker Volkswagen, has struck down any thought that his company will take the hydrogen fuel cell path, claiming in an interview with Financial Times that the technology will never work well enough to deliver on the promise of an alternative clean energy source to battery power.
Well, he has to defend his strategy to put all his chips on one technology.
the same volkswaggen that underrated their gallon mileage/polution
lol i've heard same shit about electrocars, internet, bitcoin, touchscreen, tesla cars and many other things we use today:)
Right, so that Lithium and Cobalt are so clean energy vibes
I have been writing to world environment ministers to adapt H². Thanks for the supporting true video
Chile is currently going full Hydrogen since they discovered they are basically the gods of possible Green Hydrogen production, just like they did with Copper
edit: And Solar, obviously, how could I forget, just to name Cerro Dominador
All forms of clean generation and storage should be on the table. What works best for each unique region will get sorted out. On Hawai'i they have a deep geothermal well that can produce unlimited clean H2. There will be no single solution. Throw it all at the wall and see what sticks.
We're seeing a growing focus on building green hydrogen factories where I live in Northern Norway nearly all our energy production is hydroelectric meanwhile we have about 40% energy surplus.
Our diesel ferries are replaced with hydrogen ferries and there's talks about getting hydrogen trains as electrification is quite expensive
Always liked Hydrogen Fuel cells. In practice, it seems like a more easily implemented concept with fewer tradeoffs. Hope we do get an affordable car with this design or more incentives to develope it further.
Explosion hazard.
Releases water vapour, greenhouse gas
Hydrogen makes zero sense for light duty vehicles. Hydrogen has valid uses for heavy duty vehicles.
12:42 On the pie chart the left side (dark blue) depicting busses and trucks should be 27% not 23 % ?
2:56 Why the music from Powertrain is coming?
I think we should go in the direction of smaller forms of transport be electric, larger forms of transport (Trains, ships, planes) be hydrogen, and hydrogen mainly be used for powering the grid.
Chilean goverment its going full hydrogen on energy policy
Greetings fellow Chilean 🇨🇱
I'm no expert on the subject, so I don't have enough argument to vote in favor of hydrogen or Electric power, but it was indeed an interesting video and it made me want to research more on these topics, so I will come back to leave an opinion in a couple of days. Thanks for the video!!
Someone told me hydrogen would replace ICE cars 30 years ago. Still waiting....
I am a little skeptical in seeing hydrogen used in personal cars, but I could see it being used in commercial shipping and air travel. I could also see many factories using it as a fuel for their electric needs. Unfortunately, green hydrogen production/storage will probably only have a limited availability to areas with very large bodies of water. Agriculture sectors would have some concerns using lakes and rivers to make hydrogen fuel much like many of their concerns about hydroelectric dams.
There could be a market, but it will most likely be regional and niche.
So most of Northern Europe, America and Asia would have sufficient water sources to satisfy their needs.
Do you know that most of the human population lives near the coast? It can be made out of saltwater too.
@@AB8511 40% lives near the coast. A good percentage, but definitely not most. I think hydrogen will have uses in a diverse energy portfolio especially in shipping and single factory energy supplies, but as a replacement fuel for everyday travel, I think it will be more regional and niche.
@@timmeyer9191 I thought it was cca. 50% so yes on this point I was wrong. But still it is true, that it can be done from seawater and further transported, same as for example, nat gas today. So logistics should not be big problem...
@@neodym5809 the 40% that lives near the coast could have sufficient needs met, but the inland population will be more difficult. Unlike conventional fuel or electric batteries, hydrogen fuel needs to be pressurized, and that could make transportation and storage of the fuel more difficult.
www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-storage#:~:text=Hydrogen%20can%20be%20stored%20physically,pressure%20is%20%E2%88%92252.8%C2%B0C.
I think hydrogen fuel has its uses in a diverse energy portfolio especially with shipping and single factory energy needs, but as a replacement fuel for private transportation I'm skeptical of its viability.
The dude with the BMW needs to stay inside the lane.😂
The problem for hydrogen is that cheaper energy doesn’t help it beat lecturing vehicles. The key is to improve storage technology and reduce the amount of power needed to produce. And you need to improve those faster than battery technology improves.
We are already close to theoretical limit of electrolysis efficiency.
@@NoHandleToSpeakOf in that case I don’t see hydrogen replacing electric batteries for cars. Ships and planes maybe
I'm definitely rooting for the hydrogen revolution. Thanks for the vid
Nice sales pitch, but what about Electrolysis ? Consider EPOCH HHO on this channel.
finally people are talking about what I talked about since before tesla was a thing
You guys can check the alcohol fuel cell being developed in Brazil
100% renewable
Great vid.. you just need to slow down abit.. whats the rush?
1:16
Fusion. Using black holes to form kugelblitz batteries. Fusing neutron stars into strange matter stars (strange matter has negative mass")
then is their any way for the hydrogen to be reconstituted into the water cycle or does it remain as waste product after use?
hydrogen has a few drawbacks, 1 being that it is expensive to generate, 2. that it has a energy/volume ratio, meaning that you need a lot of space to store it, you're effectively going to have to change the the design of Airplanes or limit their range. 3. It is difficult to manage, leaks easily and also goes boom.
and 4. It is the primary greenhouse gas, so it contributes more to warming than C02 (often forgotten)..
I must complement you on your presentation content, skills, and the video and audio material.
My humble opinion is that cars will be battery powered in the medium term, and that larger vehicles and aircraft will be hydrogen powered in the shorter term.
Only questions...no answers👍
Re cost : not mrntioned was that sometimes renewable energy is thrown away when production is more than demand. So that cost is nearer zero.
Our currant rate of energy consumption makes it nearly impossible for renewable energy sources to sustainably meet demand. The future energy market might be more diverse though🤔
A sizeable portion of São Paulo city's bus fleet is hydrogen-based already, one of the first widespread uses of this type in the world
Please upload in 4k
10:40 The cost is only getting lower, because there are not enough storage systems.
Oil has hydrogen and carbon. A series of carbon atoms are used to bind hydrogen atoms.
Solid-state hydrogen storage can use fine iron powder to loosely bind hydrogen atoms.
seems like your list of sources of hydrogen overlooked a rather important one: hydrogen produced from Nuclear Energy using SMRs, either by thermolysis or high-temperature electrolysis, likely to work out cheaper than 'green' hydrogen, and predicted by some to even become cheaper than 'grey' hydrogen at large scales
also fuel cells seem to have a lot more potential for cost and performance increases than batteries, which will enable them to power aircraft, and likely mean they end up beating BEVs on price
and of course fuel cell power plants (especially natural gas powered ones) will be very useful and lower emissions (and costs!) than traditional peaker plants, and will be required to deliver reliable electricity generation, especially if the amount of intermittent generation sources keeps increasing
and then there's on-site generation of hydrogen from natural gas (and generating electricity or district heating at the same time!) that can be performed at petrol stations, which will likely be the way the hydrogen's infrastructure is expanded, especially in places that already have natural gas pipelines in the ground, saving massively on hydrogen infrastructure costs
I think hydrogen makes sense for storing excess energy from renewables, or to fuel airplanes (because batteries are heavy for them). but it is not good to use for cars because energy is lost by using electricity to separate hydrogen from water and converting it back to electricity in fuel cells. also hydrogen would be good for ships that travel long distances.
I put forth the idea of putting wind-turbines on un-used platforms in the Gulf of Mexico, convert Ocean water by Electrolysis to hydrogen, store it in a floating LPG (type) tanker. When full, swap it out with another tanker. THAT WAS IN 2002!
I had high hope for hydrogen about 30 years ago, but it became clear 20 years ago that battery technology would win. It takes about 3 times a much energy along the full supply chain to travel a mile on H2 vs. BEV. If you carbon capture fossil fuel derived H2 the cost goes up by 4 to 10 times. While every one keeps saying in the future H2 will be so much better, they are assuming batteries will remain unchanged. Long before H2 become viable and cost effective BEV will change in minutes and have nearly 1k mi range on a charge. Battery technology will also be working for trucks, boats and planes by then. There is only one area I think H2 might be useful, and that is in places that have sever shortages of water and the cost of water is very high. Put an off-shore wind farm with floating wave generators carrying solar panels and maybe some tidal generation under water. Us that energy to get H2 through electrolysis. Then use a fuel cell to get back to electricity. Use the waste heat for more electric generation. Send the electricity and clean water back to shore. The electricity will be too expensive, but the cost will be offset by the clean waste water of the process.
The Australian government should be very interested with this idea.
Can you please write a proposal and email me
I don't see H2 or EV being the final solution, just an interim solution. EV may work with radically improved battery technology. Even so, synthetic fuel made with clean energy from atmospheric CO2 and H2O is the most practical.
And both are destroyed by gasoline, unless you believe that CO2 in ridiculously small concentrations in the atmosphere is a problem. Earth has had long periods where CO2 was at 3,000 parts per million instead of the current 400 ppm and live flourished. The panic over carbon is being driven by fools and liars.
I live in the western USA, the land of big pickup trucks. A quick trip into town could rack up 200 miles. Out here the race is between battery pickups and potentially hydrogen pickup. If hydrogen is going to make it, then this is the place to try. But then again maybe biodiesel. What ever, it will have to be cowboy manly.
Put a hydrogen tank and fuel cell in the frunk and you have a perfect hybrid. Battery for work, hydrogen for travel.
With respect ... I'm totally unconvinced.
Storage is a major issue. Basically either: extremely high pressure in heavy tanks (useless for airplanes) or cryogenically at 20.28K (useless for cars/trucks etc.) Either way it is probably too inefficient for ships. In addition to safety issues, making storage impractical in populated areas.
Transport, either by truck or pipeline, would be expensive and dangerous.
Production is, and far into the future will be, from mainly dirty fossil fuel sources, because converting it to and from water is expensive and inefficient.
In practice, it usually needs to be converted to electricity using fuel cells, which require extremely expensive catalysts, such as platinum. Also as you mentioned, it would require a massively expensive infrastructure, for something with very little appeal. Politically difficult?
Just to rub it in, I should note that even Elon Musk has abandoned it ... as a rocket fuel!
As tantalizing as hydrogen may seem, it's adoption as a fuel is probably mostly being pushed by a despicable fossil fuel industry, grasping for any sort of straw, to make themselves appear a bit 'greener' and more palatable to the skeptical general public. As usual though, this is at best, very misleading.
Mineral extraction companies will push it down our throats. We can not be allowed to charge cars at home. Got to dictate the price at the station.
Bus hump is usually air conditioning... 12:24
Visualpolitik ❤️ China
China? How?
Imagine if someone ruptures the hydrogen tank on our car.
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you are wrong on the long haul electric bus, in Sydney Australia they are as we speak testing not 1 but 2 different electric buses. They originally expected to have to charge the buses every day or after 1 or 2 shifts. What they are finding is thanks to the regenerative braking the buses are lasting 2-3 days between charges. And the buses on trial are actually using older designed lithium batteries with newer and more efficient batteries expected in the final role out.
the government
of my country (portugal) is going to allocate part of the european funds to
hydrogen and this measure has been severely criticized by many economists. I'm
so confused
Hydrogen and fusion reactors are always a few years away from taking over, keep hearing this for a few years now.
Great video
Lots of buses in Tokyo run with hydrogen already. However the Mirai is not selling well. Need more infrastructure.
The problem with BEVs how do you charge them all at the same time. Moving that quantity of electricity WILL become a problem.
it's going to end up used almost only for ships, planes, and long haul trucking. grid storage to some extent, but there is also things like compressed air that work with roughly the same efficiency and would be cheaper up front to construct for practically the same gains. so who knows. though it will (I would bet) see wide spread military adoption in place of petroleum fuels. probably wouldn't even be a hard sell to the military. "if you can secure a water source and an energy source, you can make your own fuel on base. and if not, still bring it in, the same way you always have"
Another application is to add hydrogen in natural gas pipelines. The European ones can accept around 10% hydrogen.
Hydrogen is really about long term energy storage not transportation. It fits into the scheme where we go 100% renewable and need something to deal with intermittency over long periods of time.
How long do you want to store it? Most applications dictate daily charge-discharge cycles.
@@NoHandleToSpeakOf Long term means dealing with seasonal variations. You have to be able to get through winter with less sunlight for months. It's not that you expect to get completely zero; but a reduced amount of sunlight over a long time is a massive burden on the system. That's why they recommend something on the order of ~200TWh. It's a massive amount of energy.
@@NoHandleToSpeakOf Hydrogen can be burnt in gas turbines, like it is currently done with methane, to produce energy. This comes as a real solution for the intermittency problem of the other renewable energies. You can then use the additional energy from the renewable energies to produce hydrogen (you sort are storing the excess energy in the chemical bonds of hydrogen). When the energy demand is higher than the production, you then burn the hydrogen in specialized gas turbines to produce the required energy and deliver it to the energy grid.
@@MrPeanut656565 different burn temperature require completely new turbine
@@NoHandleToSpeakOf Yeah I know, that is why it is currently a topic in research. With the comparison of methane turbines I was giving a reference point of current technology, not that the same turbines were going to be used. Not only is the temperature different, but in addition, thermoacustic emission would also play a big role due to the thermodiffusive instabilities of hydrogen combustion not present in methane combustion. This phenomenon should also be completely understood before a proper technological development of hydrogen gas turbines can begin.
This about fusion power right?
Not even close. This is about another use of gas and coal.
I had heard roughly 30 years ago that's someone had devised a method of producing hydrogen by taking a spool of aluminum wire, passing it through water in a tank, and generating an current down the wire. The electricity makes the hydrogen and oxygen in the water split and the oxygen binds to the aluminum forming aluminum dioxide keeping it from rebonding to the hydrogen. The hydrogen then rises to the top in yhe tank to be used as fuel. Supposedly the petroleum companies bought out the patent in the 1970s and suppressed the technology.
As you mentioning it's use in metallurgy suggests, _green_ hydrogen could be great for green steel. I would have liked to hear more about that instead of the hydrogen car.
Since, you see, the important "detail" missing in the video is that unfortunately hydrogen is not very energy efficient compared to batteries for passenger cars (roughly half, well-to-wheel at 30-40% vs. 60-80%).
Paying the energy cost of using hydrogen only makes sense for long haul / heavy payload vehicles.
At 7:50 its pronounced as met•hane gas not "me•think" gas.
There are other technologies for producing green hydrogen besides using electrolyzers. Think about algae and bacteria. Another very promising technology is mimicking how plants work, called artificial photosynthesis. Maybe a great topic for a new VisualPolitik EN video.
always is and can be used in ice cars via conversions
Hydrogen's biggest challenge is how much space it take to store. For land and air transportation, more volume means more drag and that kills efficiency. Even storing it as a liquid , the volumetric energy density for hydrogen is EXTREMELY low and storing it as a liquid is not easy to do. See all the problems the SLS has been having because it uses liquid hydrogen as a fuel - which is why SpaceX and other rocket manufacturers have moved to Methane. Liquid Hydrogen takes four times as much space as gasoline to store the same energy and then you have to consider all the challenges of how to store it as a liquid - which is literally rocket science. I think it would be way more practical to do like SpaceX is doing and use liquid Methane. Just like hydrogen, you can make methane from electricity using the Sabatier process and it is already widely used and stored (Methane is basically the same as LNG) and, when made using the Sabatier process, it is carbon neutral.
The cost of renewable energy has gone down remarkably in ten years, the issue is now intermittency. Green hydrogen storage is an absolute must if we are to avert ecological catastrophe.
Please review Indonesia politic please
I'll get excited about H2 when they develop storage containers that weigh less than the fuel. Liquid at 20 Kelvin and 30% of the volumetric energy density of gasoline, or gas compressed to 700 atmospheres and 15% the energy density - either is a PITA.
Hydrogen is not a fuel, hydrogen is a storage medium
Is gasoline not stowed solar energy?
Technically it is a fuel that does not occur naturally. Got to spend electricity and waste half of it as heat to produce this wonderful fuel.
didnt we try it before with zepelins
Hydrogen is definitely a great idea for fuel cells and home energy storage but personally I want to see more investment into Carbon Capture, turning CO2 into alcohol/ethanol cause I want that in my modified WRX : ) : ) Mmm, 110 Octane gooness !
Is it feasible to make ammonia from hydrogen and use it as a fuel. That it will be easier to sequester the carbon
Definitely it has future..
Tesla has already successfully implemented a way of storing excess electricity through the use of lithium ion batteries in South Australia. Using a battery seems more practical as a source of reserve electricity, since you physically have to transport hydrogen after it is manufactured to where reserve power is needed - or to a hydrogen powerplant. A large battery could store that energy easier and kick in and supply the needed reserve energy easier.
The EU started a project called the hydrogen strategy to transform its industry towards this route. The political will is there, the money is going to be spend.
I think hydrogen is a far more elegant technology than batteries or fossil fuels. Its use is much more diverse and it is safer than the alternatives.
Have you ever heard of the Hindenburg? Hydrogen is not safe. Batteries are safer, and more energy efficient.
I agree that is an elegant technology, but as somebody that has interacted with hydrogen since grad school...is far from safe. Even laboratories shy away when running tests with Hydrogen gas.
@@PikaPilot but gasoline is?
@@Aspis7 what is so difficult about it? I work with it on a regular basis. It is non toxic, as long as you have decent ventilation there is no risk of an explosion. I have a lot of chemicals I highly dislike to work with, but hydrogen is none of them.
@@neodym5809 Gasoline doesn't explode if not atomized, it just burns. But regarding the Hindenburg, most of the people survived the accident...and it took 30 seconds to crash into the ground.
This has been the question for over 20 years
U should do a video on nuclear opinion
Great video. Another enormous use case for hydrogen is heating your house. In the Netherlands almost evert house is heated by burning natural gas. This gas is piped using a large infrastructure. This network of pipes could (SHOULD) be converted for pumping hydrogen.
its much more flammable, smaller and would require a different piping specs. so wont be so easy
@@nicwanavit5463 Sorry, this is not true. KIWA - a well known organization for testing, inspection and certification - has analyzed the infrastructure in the Netherlands and has concluded that it is relatively easy to make the network hydrogen capable, see www.kiwa.com/nl/nl/nieuws-en-media/nieuws/nederlands-gasnet-geschikt-voor-waterstof/
What about the source of water???
Will we use salinated water or normal water?? We are short of drinkable water already.
If we add water required for hydrogen then we are not solving problem.
If you want to select the salinated water then there addition of cost to desalination of water and the issue of increasing salination of water body suh sea,ocean from.which the water is taken.
Thx Visual Politik EN. Ich bin aus Sudafrica. I wouldn't know what the future hold. What I do know is that in Africa wood and a gun are better that books. In the West it is visa verse. It seems as if Hydrogen in the long run will be better, in the West. BUT in Africa we need WOOD! One vrind of mine is working in Deutschland, and he told me that there are only a couple of Hydrogen fuel stations there. (Germany is the 101% the West). What is the situation on Hydrogen aircrafts? Dankie/Merci 4 the programe.
Was your name always Faulks?
Doesn’t the wide use of hydrogen have any unwanted consequence in the future? For example, as mentioned in this video only a little fraction of the air is made of hydrogen and that is because hydrogen is a very light gas and every year a lot of hydrogen gas escapes to the space from the atmosphere and also as mentioned in this video most of the hydrogen on earth is entrapped in the water on earth. I wonder that if humans start making more hydrogen gas, doesn’t that result in more of it scaping out of the atmosphere and loosing most of this resource in long time? Can anyone answer this question?
Given buses and trucks make up 19% and only creates 25% is quiet impressive given that 19% are on the road much more time on average then the 81% i know trucks in Australia on average do 75-80 hours of driving a week most cars are lucky to do 20hrs a week
Hyundai have launched a fleet of fuel cell lorries/trucks in Switzerland. The feedback sofar has been very positive.
As the seas rise we may find it necessary to process hydrogen from sea water
In the 60's they were looking at storing Hydrogen in vehicles in Hydriyd form.
I am not sure about consumer vehicles but commercial vehicles of all kinds like Buses, Trucks, Ships, Planes etc are going to use Hydrogen in future. Another green way of commercially producing hydrogen would be BioFuels, BioFuels like Biodiesel can be used in Biodiesel generators and then we can use carbon capture technology to stop harmful emissions generated from biodiesel generators, the power and electricity generated from Biodiesel generators can be used for electrolysis of water to produce hydrogen which can be used in most commercial/consumer vehicles and other industrial applications. BioDiesel is more environmental friendly alternative to fossil fuels.
I haven´t seen the full video yet but im going to get dissapointed if chile is not in the video
I am just my thought.
Motocycle, and smaller things that don't use often: lithium battery
all other moving vehicle land/air/sea : hydrogen fuel cell (not including jet engine)
GEVO as Gevo Inc. is the one building net zero jet fuel
My problem with battery cars is that it requires a lot of lithium
Lithium is rare. It will breed new wars, where one country invades another for lithium, just like oil
@Myname Isunavailable Is that why he twitted he would coup Bolivia, which has biggest lithium reserves in the world ?
Even if what you said is correct, my point still stands, not for lithium but for other rare elements
solaris already manufacturers hydrogen buses since at least 2019
Although fuel cells are twice as fuel efficient as combustion engines and gas turbines, it would be wise to use "normal" cars at first. It is very easy to adapt combustion engine technology for hydrogen use, it is even possible to convert existing cars to fighter burn hydrogen or gasoline.
Use existing combustion engine technology, while fuel cell costs are coming dow.
During that time you have to massively invest into hydrogen refueling stations and people can immediately use their combustion engine cars after a short and cheap refit.
By the time you have the infrastructure to produce and distribute hydrogen in massive and cheap amounts it is time to switch to very efficient fuel cells, instead of combustion engines.
Such an approach is best undertaken in a densely populated city with high incomes, like NYC, Dubai or similar cities.
Once the practical feasibility is prove, hydrogen is ready for widespread use.
Not much of a future in powering cars but there are a lot of other uses where hydrogen from electrolysis of water should be used instead of hydrogen from natural gas, like for ammonia and fertilizer production which now uses 3-ish % of total natural gas use in the world.
It’s a difficult proposition. It comes down to energy density, and the problems of generating hydrogen. Electrolysis takes a lot of electricity and for every water molecule you break, you get one hydrogen atom. Deuterium is better in terms of energy density, but making deuterium in industrial quantities isn’t going to be cheap or easy.