Nikola Jokic ADDRESSES American OBSESSION with Stats
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- Nikola Jokic ADDRESSES American OBSESSION with Stats
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Jokic is the best thing to happen to the NBA. He is the reason why I started to watch the NBA again
Same. So much fun! Thank you Mr. Jokic and the whole team
Friend begged me to watch Jokic last season so I watched my first game in a decade to humor him. OMG we spent two hours on the phone afterwards and my husband who hates basketball sat there in amazement listening. Lol. He is now a fan and my whole family was glued to the tv during the playoffs.
+1
Jokic, Giannis and Luka are the main reason I've started watching the NBA again. The only thing they care is playing basketball and they're so much more down to earth than most of the American superstars with their gigantic egos.
Me too. I stopped watching it in 2000s when teams were getting robbed so Kobe and Shaq could get rings. Watched a final series now and then, and tried watching it again 7-8 years ago but hated no defense basketball, guys kicking defenders in the nuts and getting 3 free throws for it, flopping, someone getting 50 pts every other night, superstars forming superteams ( that fail 99% of the time) every season, best players in the league not wanting to compete but joining team that already won 2 titles, average players that can only go one way, or can only play defense getting max deals, load management...then Luka came and made a fool out of Booker, then Giannis won it the right way and called ring chasers out, and then finally Joker started dominating. Racists almost ruined last season for me, but Joker didn't let them. He destroyed everything and everyone in his way, swept LeMight Retire and got a chip. NBA is fun again.
This dude is so genuine - he could not wait to get out of there but remained very courteous and considerate. I just respect this guy's approach so much - always promoting his teammates successes and always playing team basketball.
Yes, always. Good production👍🏼
The guy seems fcking bored and doesn't pretend not to be, so funny :D
And the last when he stands up from the chair is like when I'm sitting on a stool in kindergarten :DD
He’s just can’t believe he’s getting big time moneys for playing basketball.
@@Pekka.Pekka.1296 I disagree - he is so pretending not to be bored - it's just that he's really bad at pretending
Stats question at 4:50
Mike is still taking notes to this day.
tells the american media "[this is]a] good question; take notes"
Mike covers the Nuggets daily for a Denver news organization. Joker was teasing him.
@@patriciamccormick9321 Mike Evans?
Funny😂
@@rockymountainhomestead Mike Singer, Denver Post
Incredible player, incredible guy. Couldn’t care less about his stats or anybody else’s.
Totally team oriented. Just wants to win. Reminds of early Celtic guys. Auerbach had the same philosophy as
the Joker. So did Russell, and the rest of those guys.
The Joker is so humble, and so honest. The American media aren’t used to this. They’re looking for drama. That’s not him. He downplays his own skills, which are enormous. He may not be an Olympic athlete, but he’s easily one of the best all around players in NBA history.
There aren’t any point guards in the league who can see the floor and make the passes this guy does every night!
I love how he talks so real... like sometimes you're successful and sometimes you're not
This guy plays the game right it is a team game after all. Plus he doesn't blow his own horn or demand adulation like so many athletes do .
He does nor have abandonment problems like 90% of NBA players.
No, he just lived through a war as a child.
I can't BELIEVE the WAY he has ADDRESSED this ISSUE so STRAIGHTFORWARD! Great GUY!
WHY are YOU talking like YOU had a STROKE
There's only one stat that matters. Did we win the game? That's what Joker's about and he finds a way to win. That's what so-called Superstars and MVPs do. They lead their teams to Victory. Congrats to the nuggets on their first championship. From the looks of things it won't be the last
MJ is my favorite player. But jokic has broken the game. From stat category he is the best player. Thanks all.
Nikola, you just laid out all the ESPN and NBA analysts. Mad ✊🏻 respect
You are 83.7% correct.
not to mention the Fox sports fuckers like nick wright...
You can tell jokic hates the media, and I don’t blame him
Nah I think he hates speaking english..... But I bet coach Malone uses the media as motivation
I don't think he hates them, he just always looks bored answering different versions of the same things over and over again. It's like a room full of seventh graders asking Albert Einstein questions about physics.
He hates the American media. As do we all.
I don’t think he hates anyone. Just part of the job, something he has to do. He would understand that media is important to give fans more access.
I think someone's projecting his own feelings onto the situation here..
Love this cat, exposes U.S. based sports media for what it is. They are put on and found lacking when faced with a person who is a drama free team player.
He’s not bored. It’s not fun doing these. Have to answer on the fly. Always have to come up with fancy new ways to describe tossing a ball around. And do it in a foreign tongue makes it so much harder. Imagine yourself sitting up there.
He is the definition of "Do it". He don't have much words. He is just the best player right now, and if you tell him he says no! No American has such a stable character.
Ben Carson is just one. I could keep going.
It's rare isn't it. 100% focused on his job when hes on and near the court.😂
@@Adrian_Estando yeah that's rare. In the US. Normally all there are not sure what they are now. Some are Fisherthems. Some have pussies. Some are pussies!
He has some really great guys on his team, too. Great players and unselfish
Variety I think that's the word he's tryi.g to think of. I notice it said be respectful. This guy is just a basketball player without all the drama. I like his play and his private life is of family and country. Cool
I kako ne obozavati ovog coveka hahahaaa😂 .Ziv nam bio Jokara 100 godina!
❤
Jokic binging basketball back
Also from an European perspective: no matter how many points Lebron, Jabbar, Wilt and all the others before made (or will make) in their careers, MJ is the GOAT and made NBA international because of the beautiful way he played the game, for instance the way he would change his shooting position or shooting technique in the air depending on how the opponent reacted, of course thanks to his insane hang time, his stats only added to it. Lebron and the others are just much less spectacular and the softening in NBA's defense rules and increase of three-point-shots just made it easier to score a lot.
Precisely.
true. Michael Jackson is the true goat
For me all those people are in the conversation because they made their team win championships, and LeBron perhaps lags a bit behind for that reason. He makes his teams win, but IMO MJ and Wilt made them win even more.
Jordan was the only super athlete with skill back then. That wouldn’t stand out so much today. If you’re arguing he was the most ahead of his time- he and Wilt.
Of all the true and corrects arguments you could've used to justify MJ being the goat you took one of the worst ones
If you can contain your emotions to permanent contentment like Jokic can. You will make better decisions in your life
I CAN HAZ PEE??
=^.^=
Jokic is right Basketball is a team game and not people running down the court taking thirty foot shots and walk back on defense.
Right the league shouldnt be shook up about a team playing an older style of basketball. This is a much purer form of the game than the way the game is now that you mentioned
what lmao
Media is gonna make this hall of famer retire early.
I like him, he brings that cold and unhampered Slavic cool to the room.
2am Nikola Jokic is the most fascinating team player❤ love him he is the best
Kristian Palotie is not only a journalist but a coach with a diploma and the best finnish basketball in-game announcer ever!
And didn't a Finnish coach Tuomas... lead Telekom Baskets Bonn from Germany to their first Champions League title and to the national championship finals.
Bravo Suomilainen. Long live Tapio Rautavaara, Olavi Virta, Reijo Taipale & co.
@@denverzorrozoki9023 Hello from Finland i ❤ Tapio Rautavaara´s music
I hope Mike got the message. :)
Mike, in fact, did not get the message.
He’s an all time player that treats the NBA just like another 9 to 5 job and I love it
Most of these stats are completely dumb, like "he is second guy with most triple doubles on a Wednesday in playoff history"
At that point, they're just reaching for headlines
Mike was takin notes so well until Yoke started speaking Serbian
Jokic GOAT🏀🏆
Jordan the GOAT
Pure intuition.
The McNamara Fallacy
is a cognitive bias that occurs when trying to make sense of data. In this case, the data refers to your own beliefs and values.
Jokic just on a different level by wittinglyor unwittingly hammering this down!!!
McNamara, the war criminal?
He isn't even aware of numbers. What they end up being, is what they are.
Asking him a cerebral question about plays, how he sees them, and he'll dissect them for you.
#Player
Denver is only 1 mio people, greater Denver 2 mio and the entire state is 6 mio. So the local media is small; one major newspaper, two small national sports outlets and two growing local outlets. So regular season post-game pressers are like 6 accredited journalists, all dedicated to Nuggets coverage, all of whom are well known to the players and coaches. These playoffs it’s a huge room with national and international journalists. That explains why it is awkward.
Yeah that question from a European reporter was awesome. People want that sort of information.
A team effort is always second compared to the actual stats like Jokic puts up. He did something not been done in 50 something years and its just a fascinating thing to see that. Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, allen iverson are perfect examples of stat obsession by fans and the media.
Michael Jordan will forever be the goat.-put European basketball on the map
Good question..Mike make notes😂😂😂
Honestly it's just Nick Wright and most of Bron fans. Everybody else are following more eye tests, impact of game play, and overall ring count. Kobe had career total 25 ppg vs LeBron's 27 ppg but I'd take his -2 average because of his 5 rings and his 20 yr Laker legacy, clutch gene, and his maniacal obsession over LeBron's steroid career.
Let's be real most people eye test is wack. People that can really how good a player is by just watching them play is actually very rare. It takes A LOT OF TIME AND EXPERIENCE watching the game and very understanding of the game and basketball fundamentals to really being able to do that.
Al Joker el único número que le preocupa es el del marcador, que el de su equipo sea mayor que el del rival, y hace todo lo posible para que sea así. Lo demás se la trae al fresco.
It comes from baseball. ERA and batting average were probably what started it. But yeah, definitely a baseball thing that has leaked into other sports.
Bro I think you’re confusing analytics w statistics, the analytic boom came from baseball but caring about statistics has been around since statistics were kept. Lol when a soccer fan cares about how many goals someone scored in a season does that come from baseball too? Statistics are a great way to compare players, that‘a why people care so much just like we care about who’s the mvp, who’s the Goat, etc.
@@NeoValeTudo But you guys take it to another level. Every week I hear that someone broke some specific number of points, assists and rebounds. Something like Jokic is the first since Wilt Chamberlain to score above 23/13/11 in 2 consecutive games with the flue 😮
@@Pedro-et2pu bro im not skip bayless im just a basketball fan, i agree stats like that are annoying. but stats like "jokic averaged 30, 14, and 9.5 in the playoffs" are obviously super important in letting us know where he stands as an all time great player when the team ends up winning the finals after he was clearly the best player in basektball
@@NeoValeTudo and he will continue to be the best player moving forward.
In soccer for the longest time (at least in Europe) no one gave a F about stats.
He's from a soccer country where it's harder to quantify success. He said in recent interview he's happy when everyone is touching the ball because it keeps them in the play. The genius of the old Celtics teams and Spurs. A lot of NBA players are competing with their teammates bc stats means money. Makes it easier to beat them.
Serbia is not only a soccer country, it is a basketball country too.
@@ZelimirkaNastic No doubt
@@andymullins84soccer commentators and pundits are some of the most moronic in the sports world no doubt. Their sole focus is using lingo and trendy buzz words which they switch out every like 5 years to make the illusion that something has evolved when in fact nothing has
Serbia is much more of a basketball country than a soccer one.
@@contekozlovski You obviously never lived in Serbia. Did you hear about Sinisa Mihajlovic, Dragan Dzajic, Dragoslav Sekularac, Dragan Stojkovic, Dusan Savic?
Mike...
Joker Nikola 👏🏀🔥
The look on Joker's face is like wtf why are you trying to make basketball seem like it's so fucking important...HAHAHA
So all these "journalists" never heard of variety to tell him when he got stuck on the word? They are as eloquent as they are intelligent.
Doubt most players care about a triple double. It's a meaningless stat that the media seems to have created.
Mike, take notes 😂
Players bonuses are determined by stats
But the boners are not.
Stats are meaningful, they allow objective analysis of the game, but they aren't the most important aspect of the game.
The stats helps us understand how good of a player Jokic is, but what's really important is understanding how he does it, what's the thought process behind his decision making, how does he improve his game, etc.
And that's why this is a great question, a rare one in the sea of stat-checking bullshit.
I don’t think he means it like that. I think he’s talking about how people just obsess over individual stats when it’s a team game.
In American sports they always focus on individual players’ stats and if a team does well it’s only because of that individual and likewise if a team does bad it’s because of that one player “choking”. People talk about the best players like “how many rings does he have?” even though they didn’t win them alone.
In European sports (even basketball in Europe too) the focus is much more on coaching, style of play etc and it’s never about individual players. They get their recognition still but they aren’t seen as the sole reason for winning/losing and having the best player is not the most important thing either, it’s about having the best team and best coaching.
Individual stats mean nothing in Europe if you aren’t playing winning team basketball.
Stats are generally misinterpreted with how they are being used. Stats without context = misinformation
i think he probably means likes stats that give no informative value.. ie. the guy scored alot or rebounded alot.. but if you are saying hey he shoots 80% going left vs 60% going right. those are stats EVENT he knows are relevant.. note he talked about randomizing his moves..
The vast majority of a player's actions over the course of a game can not be captured by a number; and without each of those actions, those things that can be counted would not happen.
Nikola is like let's get over it 😂
Question is: are the questions getting stupider or the reporters just getting more ignorant? In the heat of the moment, you just play your game! No more, no less.
Stats are good in that it helps find the cheating and fixing going on in the NBA.
Stats are for betting
There is only one stat that matters at the end of the day...the W
...and the D
5:00 You're welcome
Stats in general could mean a lot for some plans and tactical preparations, training. But for the average fan stats are meaningless. These days every match somebody broke some record. They are inventing and searching for any number that can make a record. People should be watching games more. Focusing on the flow of the ball. Those individual stats are not important. Americans are making the list who is where in zillion categories. Why would i care if somebody is having 3.2 steals per game and what would mean for his legacy if he pushes it to 3.5 steals per game ?
Alright, but enough with the US-bashing already.
@@_munkykok_ in Euro countries we have far more pro sports than Americans. For some reason we dont have so many stats in any of those. Its not bashing.
@@unwokeneuropean3590 Alright then, fair point.
But I also think the stats don't have much to do with the sports themselves, it's only the promoters/media that present these. It's simply their business model, to push out some content and make a show, so they can sell it, and intersperse it with ads that they also get money for. That the media companies are American also has little to do with it, other media companies can do it, too.
Anyway, stats are simply show business, nothing wrong about that. The players job is still always the same, regardless of the media/stats and the country that they are in.
@@_munkykok_ we have a different business politics. Obviously it helps that the biggest sport is soccer where fans are very tribal. They will always cheer for their team no matter which players are there in the roster. The focus is on teams, not on the super individuals even if there are guys who are larger than life (Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo). Trust me, its much nicer to enjoy the matches without the excel spreadsheets with 10000 numbers. In soccer you can be the worse team by all statistical evaluations, even during the match itself, and still win by a lucky goal.
Best playoff ratings in years. Wonder why?
❤❤thanks❤❤
Man !!! This guy really hates media
Usa media
His english is Great compare to where he come from and whole day playing 🏀 Great white boy
A to the point conversation with an adult, talented person, at the expected level of maturity for his age. And now compare this to an average post game interview with your typically: hooded, clownishly dressed, nonchalant, passive-aggressive, always cliches mumbling Harden, Embiid, Morant and others, nowadays "elite" players. What's wrong with you America and your system of creatig valuable personalities?
STATTS Are like POLLS, DONT MEAN MUCH.😊
The point is winning games and rings.
Subtitles please :s.
Stats show Russel Westbrook is a good player. Reality shows he is terrible. Lol
How about you write a TITLE in a normal WAY instead of EMPHASIZING random WORDS to get our ATTENTION
It is like a game of whi can all the dumbest questions
I just rather take glass of Ardbeg Corryvreckan and watch 10 minutes of Joker passing the ball. :)
MUNKYKOK approves!
Before you hate sports media, imagine just watching NBA without the news and columns afterwards. No stats, no comments, no gossip.. no MVP talk..
I dont watch those panel discussions anymore with stephen smith and those guys, I realized its a huge waste of time
mike, than notes.
Who is the Mike guy he is shaming? What did he ask that annoyed Jokic ?
mike singer, sports writer at the denver post. he's at every nuggets press conference. probably asks him a little too often about his triple doubles
at 2:58 the lady asks about ....importance 'to you'. Serbian has two second prerson pronouns: ti 'you' (singular) and vi 'you' (plural).
Unintentional sign of his attitude to the team sport of basketball that he thought she asked him using the plural. She focused on him. He focused on the team.
It's refreshing to have questions in different languages. Am i the only one who thinks the NBA could add a translation service? It's not like the NBA doesn't know what languages the players speak or who the accredited journalists work for. Just think a top notch pro league would recognize this as an opportunity to grow the game outside of USA.
I'd like to know what the Serbian reporter was asking. I bet it wasn't about his "feelings."
Serbian reporter asked if there is a possibility of game four being a surprise, if so will Miami surprise Denver or vice versa. Also, he asked how it feels being so close to winning it all.
Jokić answered that, basically at this point there are no surprises. Two teams can't really surprise the opponent. When it comes to 'how it feels being a step away', he said that it would be a first time in franchise history so it is very special.
That's it!
It was in fact about his feelings.
You lose, try again.
Jokic is full of shit. It's all an act 😄 him not caring and all
@@sonjaradovic8499sunce moje, oko moje, svaka ti cast sestro
@@Crookymonsta1sve stobom ok? 😂
Jokic is the antisuperstar.
Other players spend so much time trying to get the spotlight. While Nikola is actively ducking it.
Just for all of the clowns focused on stats: Bill Russell, the greatest winner in all of NBA history and arguably the best who ever played, averaged 15 points per game for his entire career. There are other things that can be done to help your team win - Russell understood it and so does Jokic. Jokic and Russell should be the type of people NBA players aspire to be but unfortunately the immaturity and culture of many NBA players is not conducive to this kind of self-awareness and maturity.
"culture"
Tim Duncan, also fits this, there are several players who have won championships who have played a vital role more than the stats indicated, Drayvon Green & Ray Allen.
I hate Celtics but Bill was the best in his era hands down. And he is always so underrated and even disrespected among fans. Great to see Bill's appreciation
The vast majority of a player's actions over the course of a game can not be captured by a number; and without each of those actions, those things that can be counted would not happen.
bingo
Mr. Deadpan
So obsseses in fact, that the media and these so called analysts dont even think. They just read the stats as the absolute truth. The most annoying is westbrooks era at okc 😅 stat padding until people started talking...
Now jokic makes triple doubles because he handles the ball to the team and suuuuuuuuddenly he stat padding lol.
Lebron is another example most scorer etc but yeah whatever if he es basically doing nothing now yeah he can walk another 5 seasons and break more records 🤡
MIKE ??
It's because Americans dont watch and they think they can act like they do by looking at the stats lol
With the draft, budget limits and no relegation the us communist system made winning on their leagues irrelevant.
Get real, stats are always a biased point of view.
Such different questions than for LeBron & AD...LOL
European journalists.
@@anotherelvis Americans also, listen again. The questions have several parts with statistics, strategy, abstract reasoning (explain putting the puzzle together?), etc. They seem more relaxed & have higher expectations of detailed answers.
@@JoeSexPackyou assume, through your condescending tone, that ALL Americans are stupid. What you fail to recognize is that ALL entertainment and ALL the press are nothing but agenda pushing communists, attacking the most productive Americans to demoralize us. This is WHY the press ask stupid questions, it's strategic. They control the narrative to dumb down the population and keep them in an emotional state.
In what country do you currently reside?
Stats also makes this player multi millionaire.
That’s the point, it shouldn’t. There are so many role players in the nba whose contribution to a team win won’t show on a stat sheet
Stats are extremely important… especially when figuring out salaries.. I bet Joker’s agent will agree..😉
yes. but not for winning. Ask Lebron or Westbrook.
@@sloaiza81 I agree
Kosovo je Srbija 🇷🇸🫡
Dont count the stats
Stick to sports it looks embarrassing when you don't understand why stats are important and necessary etc.
Don't think too hard. Just playing for you, okay?
Bruh it’s embarrassing to care more about stats than trying to be a good teammate to win the championship. He’s probably smarter than you and still can whoop your ass 🤣
I speak English very little 🤣🤣
Only stats that matters are championship wins.
a huge Y>>>>>>E>>>>>>>S