I still find it crazy that all of this Goku > Beerus stuff exists yet people don’t realize it all because of a terrible narrative. Great video as always man.
@@kingofgodzilla1845 how dose it make it high hyper if 20D IS Outerversal and 13D is hyper lvl and 14 or 15D IS High hyper??? it makes no sense for 24D to be high hyper lvl
@@kingofgodzilla1845fascinating to hear. Another question, is there any other outerversal Godzillas out there besides just gih. apologies for all these questions
I have a few problems. Moro doesn't know the full strength of Beerus. So if we have to disclude Beerus's statement because of pride, we have to disclude Moro's. And those guide statements were anime only. Plus, the writers really need to sip up Beerus's pants. Toyotaro glazes Beerus more than Gege glazes Sukuna. And both Beerus and Quitella thought they would be the last ones standing. Implying that they would be in a tier to themselves as no 1 and 2. You can argue Belmod would be 3, but that's not really shown well. And Toronbo stated he couldn't make Granolah stronger than the gods when he wished to be the strongest in the universe. This isn't included the likes of Zeno, as he's not part of U7. So Toronbo was likely talking about Beerus and/or Whis. Not to mention, Whis couldn't think of anyone stronger than Goku and Vegeta. Heavily implying that Vegta surpassed Moro. And Beerus no diffed him. At the very least, his blue evolved should be stronger than Jiren by a pretty huge margin. And Beerus, who 100% knew Moro's power, thought he could take him out quickly. If you're going to discredit that statement because Beerus is cocky, then, again, you have to discredit Moro's statement due to not kneeling how strong Beerus is.
Hey KoG, if one were to make a WIS edit on Final Wars Godzilla vs Gojo and Sukuna, who would get which categories? I have Final Wars having all points expect IQ, BIQ, Exp and I’m not sure who has better skill and combat.
@@kingofgodzilla1845 well, I could name some feats and you tell me were you think they scale until (or if) you Decided to look into it. While I've not seen the dragon knight and I don't remember much from legends of awesomeness, po's best scaling comes from the series called paws of destiny. Would you like to hear?
@@kingofgodzilla1845 ok here goes. Po's best scaling comes from the cosmology of the spirit realm but let's go into some small stuff first. In paws of destiny, there are four characters called the four constellations which are the white tiger, red Phoenix, blue dragon and black tortoise. They are the students of the main villain of the first season called Jindiao (the first dragon master). In a flash back, we are shown the black tortoise stopping an asteroid (that's larger than the earth itself based on how it's visually shown on screen) by making a shield (thats also much bigger than the earth) using chi. Po would scale above this as he's above the four constellations as well as having the stronger heroes chi. That feat could line up with statement such as oogway and kai shaking the earth through their battle. Now onto the crazy stuff. The spirit realm is described in offical books as a separate plane of reality that's not bound by rules and lacks space and time. It's also said to have celestial bodies such as stars nebula and so on (and it's shown to have a star in a back ground image). From episodes in paws of destiny, the white tiger described the spirit realm as having no borders when they found out Jindiao was in there and had to find him (with the implication being that the spirit realm is infinite in size). Later on, the blue dragon describes the spirit realm as being a place of great power and that it would require an even greater power to break out. Jindiao was able to break out using if chi blast to blast open a hole through the spirit realm and mortal realm (and po was able to fight on par and take attacks from him). Jindiao also had access to what the series calls the wellspring. The wellspring is described plenty of times to be an endless, otherworldly source of power and is the source of all chi, light and energy in the universe (which includes stars and all). So where would all this scale?
@@nuhscott9058 This is pretty good stuff, that asteroid was calced into dwarf star or higher so ill have to check The spirit realm being infinite in size is fine but since it doesn’t have space and time in it you can’t really scale it to something like low multi Ill read up on stuff and let you know what I find
Hey KoG, I found this multi-galaxy scale for MV Godzilla but I’m not sure the validity of it so could you please check it out down below “it confirmed that 1hollow earth portal supermassiveblack=solar system size and when godzilla drills to hollow earth was powerful as the entire hollow earth which=moon and hollow earth portal is 500ft so if we take how many times moon bigger than 500ft =60192 and lets multiplie it with size of supermassiveblack hole = 1.4 quidecellion miles at lengh which is multi galaxy Ivl”
After watching your video I have come to the conclusion that manga goku, jiren, broly, gogeta, moro, gornola, gas, ultra ego vegeta and black frizea surpassed a manga full power tournament of power beerus due to the evidence you provided. But a current beerus is stronger only because he trained off screen after the TOP since he was salty he was surpassed. My main supporting evidence for my thought process is because the dragon that gave granola powers said he couldn't make him stronger than the god of destruction so I believe at that point beerus was stronger than his past self that was surpassed by the characters I previously mentioned
Beerus didn't start training again til the Granolah arc so Goku and them are above him til then. Even then he beat up Vegeta while holding back and thats all we see. We only know he trains off screen but not how much it helps him or anything. Thats why I still have Goku and them >Beerus
I think the reason for Granolah not being able to be stronger than a God is because these aren't the actual dragon balls and can't grant any wish. They have restrictions
@@kingofgodzilla1845 watch them do some op shit and just say beerus has his own hyperbolic time chamber so he can do crazy gains in a short time just to try to keep him ahead 💀
@@kingofgodzilla1845you are correct since beerus power was literally implied to trancend dimensions and no dragon ball has affected something that trancends basically infinite dimensions due to having kanji that means super dimensions and super dimensions are above all dimensions even like 100d or something, the only dragon balls known to be able to affect these are super dragon balls
Erm, Nuh uh! The gods have been training offscreen and they just wanted to hype up all the people with those statements that are actually invalid! They’re above black frieza!!!!
I still find it crazy that all of this Goku > Beerus stuff exists yet people don’t realize it all because of a terrible narrative.
Great video as always man.
Thanks Apex
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Hey kog a question.
Is Godzilla going to die in the next movie? (in the monsterverse btw)
@@jashinahmed1493 Idk
@@kingofgodzilla1845but what do you think?is he going to die or not?
i want to say this but is 24D high high outerversal lvl? if 20D is outerversal. or high outerversal, and 19D IS low outerversal right?.
@@KaijuGameplayTv6592 24 isn’t any of those its high hyper
@@kingofgodzilla1845 how dose it make it high hyper if 20D IS Outerversal and 13D is hyper lvl and 14 or 15D IS High hyper??? it makes no sense for 24D to be high hyper lvl
@@KaijuGameplayTv6592 Outer wasn’t never bounded by dimensions? It transcends all dimensions so it can’t be Outer
@@kingofgodzilla1845 Uhm yes it was also in 5D Is also said to be transcends all dimensions
@@kingofgodzilla1845 outer was bounded by dimensions and 5D as I heard transcends all dimensions.
I watched your videos on Godzilla in hell and I heard that you said he's high outerversal does that mean he could beat Galactus or something?
@@jacobkaufmann1181 Yes
What power level is super robot wars Godzilla and monster strike Godzilla at
Super Robot Wars is at least 5D and highest ends get 11D. MS is just a stronger Heisei
@@kingofgodzilla1845fascinating to hear. Another question, is there any other outerversal Godzillas out there besides just gih. apologies for all these questions
@@jacobkaufmann1181 Nah your good ask however many you want and no not really unless we use downscaling for others
I have a few problems. Moro doesn't know the full strength of Beerus. So if we have to disclude Beerus's statement because of pride, we have to disclude Moro's. And those guide statements were anime only. Plus, the writers really need to sip up Beerus's pants. Toyotaro glazes Beerus more than Gege glazes Sukuna. And both Beerus and Quitella thought they would be the last ones standing. Implying that they would be in a tier to themselves as no 1 and 2. You can argue Belmod would be 3, but that's not really shown well. And Toronbo stated he couldn't make Granolah stronger than the gods when he wished to be the strongest in the universe. This isn't included the likes of Zeno, as he's not part of U7. So Toronbo was likely talking about Beerus and/or Whis. Not to mention, Whis couldn't think of anyone stronger than Goku and Vegeta. Heavily implying that Vegta surpassed Moro. And Beerus no diffed him. At the very least, his blue evolved should be stronger than Jiren by a pretty huge margin. And Beerus, who 100% knew Moro's power, thought he could take him out quickly. If you're going to discredit that statement because Beerus is cocky, then, again, you have to discredit Moro's statement due to not kneeling how strong Beerus is.
Hey KoG, if one were to make a WIS edit on Final Wars Godzilla vs Gojo and Sukuna, who would get which categories? I have Final Wars having all points expect IQ, BIQ, Exp and I’m not sure who has better skill and combat.
FW has exp but thats it
@@kingofgodzilla1845 so Final Wars has almost all categories or no
@@Inactiveahhdude Yea
“We don't plan on having Goku surpass Beerus anytime soon.” Claim from Authors did not age well then.
Really did not
can you do a video on godzilla ing hell vs galactus
@@jacobkaufmann1181 If I get more marvel scales sure
Not sure if your into cartoons, but how strong do you think po from Kung fu panda would be with feats from movies and series?
@@nuhscott9058 Ive watched the movies but haven’t done scaling on them so id have to check
@@kingofgodzilla1845 well, I could name some feats and you tell me were you think they scale until (or if) you Decided to look into it.
While I've not seen the dragon knight and I don't remember much from legends of awesomeness, po's best scaling comes from the series called paws of destiny.
Would you like to hear?
@@nuhscott9058 Sure
@@kingofgodzilla1845 ok here goes.
Po's best scaling comes from the cosmology of the spirit realm but let's go into some small stuff first.
In paws of destiny, there are four characters called the four constellations which are the white tiger, red Phoenix, blue dragon and black tortoise. They are the students of the main villain of the first season called Jindiao (the first dragon master).
In a flash back, we are shown the black tortoise stopping an asteroid (that's larger than the earth itself based on how it's visually shown on screen) by making a shield (thats also much bigger than the earth) using chi. Po would scale above this as he's above the four constellations as well as having the stronger heroes chi. That feat could line up with statement such as oogway and kai shaking the earth through their battle.
Now onto the crazy stuff.
The spirit realm is described in offical books as a separate plane of reality that's not bound by rules and lacks space and time. It's also said to have celestial bodies such as stars nebula and so on (and it's shown to have a star in a back ground image). From episodes in paws of destiny, the white tiger described the spirit realm as having no borders when they found out Jindiao was in there and had to find him (with the implication being that the spirit realm is infinite in size). Later on, the blue dragon describes the spirit realm as being a place of great power and that it would require an even greater power to break out. Jindiao was able to break out using if chi blast to blast open a hole through the spirit realm and mortal realm (and po was able to fight on par and take attacks from him).
Jindiao also had access to what the series calls the wellspring. The wellspring is described plenty of times to be an endless, otherworldly source of power and is the source of all chi, light and energy in the universe (which includes stars and all).
So where would all this scale?
@@nuhscott9058 This is pretty good stuff, that asteroid was calced into dwarf star or higher so ill have to check
The spirit realm being infinite in size is fine but since it doesn’t have space and time in it you can’t really scale it to something like low multi
Ill read up on stuff and let you know what I find
Hey KoG, I found this multi-galaxy scale for MV Godzilla but I’m not sure the validity of it so could you please check it out down below
“it confirmed that 1hollow earth portal supermassiveblack=solar system size and when godzilla drills to hollow earth was powerful as the entire hollow earth which=moon and hollow earth portal is 500ft so if we take how many times moon bigger than 500ft =60192 and lets multiplie it with size of
supermassiveblack hole = 1.4 quidecellion
miles at lengh which is multi galaxy Ivl”
@@Inactiveahhdude Yea its not valid
@@kingofgodzilla1845 elaborate on why please
@@Inactiveahhdude Since we don't know the exact size of it we can't calc it. Its also not consistent at all
@@kingofgodzilla1845 but we can still use the solar high ends for base mvg right?
@@jashinahmed1493 if you want yea
Trunks is your favourite dbs character right?
Nah
@@kingofgodzilla1845 then who is it?
@@sefalibegum3557 Goku, Vegeta and Hit
@@kingofgodzilla1845same. Just replace hit with jiren and it's the same.
Question can heisei Godzilla become outerversal in time
If you wank statements sure
@@kingofgodzilla1845can we argue showa to be outer too?
@@sefalibegum3557 If you rat sure
@@kingofgodzilla1845how high can burning mv Godzilla can get with the ratiest and the most high end scalings?
@@jashinahmed1493 Solar
Bro we need to donate to get u a better mic😭
@@alexanderantonov1358 Its weird cause my mic is fine but it randomly started sounding like this when I record. Its fine whenever I do anything else
After watching your video I have come to the conclusion that manga goku, jiren, broly, gogeta, moro, gornola, gas, ultra ego vegeta and black frizea surpassed a manga full power tournament of power beerus due to the evidence you provided. But a current beerus is stronger only because he trained off screen after the TOP since he was salty he was surpassed. My main supporting evidence for my thought process is because the dragon that gave granola powers said he couldn't make him stronger than the god of destruction so I believe at that point beerus was stronger than his past self that was surpassed by the characters I previously mentioned
Beerus didn't start training again til the Granolah arc so Goku and them are above him til then. Even then he beat up Vegeta while holding back and thats all we see. We only know he trains off screen but not how much it helps him or anything. Thats why I still have Goku and them >Beerus
I think the reason for Granolah not being able to be stronger than a God is because these aren't the actual dragon balls and can't grant any wish. They have restrictions
@@kingofgodzilla1845 that does make sense so yeah i can see why this is a valid view point as well
@@kingofgodzilla1845 watch them do some op shit and just say beerus has his own hyperbolic time chamber so he can do crazy gains in a short time just to try to keep him ahead 💀
@@kingofgodzilla1845you are correct since beerus power was literally implied to trancend dimensions and no dragon ball has affected something that trancends basically infinite dimensions due to having kanji that means super dimensions and super dimensions are above all dimensions even like 100d or something, the only dragon balls known to be able to affect these are super dragon balls
Wait.
You know japanese? Cuz the manga's written in Japanese.
Right isn't it?
@@jashinahmed1493 No I just have the stuff in english
Erm, Nuh uh!
The gods have been training offscreen and they just wanted to hype up all the people with those statements that are actually invalid!
They’re above black frieza!!!!
Real!!!!!