Taste Testing British Foods We've NEVER Tried Before

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  • @SortedFood
    @SortedFood  2 ปีที่แล้ว +863

    Just picking up on some of the comments about the 2nd dish - whilst that has been the name for over 100 years, we now appreciate that we could have handled this conversation much better by either referencing the negative element associated with it, or steering clear altogether. We really appreciate your comments giving us the heads up! 🙌

    • @nickipedia1
      @nickipedia1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      Thanks for acknowledging this. Your willingness to learn, own up to any whoopsies you make, and promote kindness is why I’ve been watching this channel for so long.
      You are all very good eggs.

    • @Getpojke
      @Getpojke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      I'll hold my hands up & say that although I flinched when you used the word, in my reply I did too. I didn't think & years of growing up with it being acceptable it slipped through. I've edited my reply & apologise; no offence was meant.
      We all have to continue to grow as we age & Sorted have shown they do too.
      Cheers for putting up an explanation.

    • @Danboy0001
      @Danboy0001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +163

      I wonder how many viewers were actually offended by this? Sometimes you will be seen to have more integrity by not always bending over backwards to satisfy a small vocal minority. It's starting to look like a trend by Sorted. Maybe something to think about.

    • @Becausing
      @Becausing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

      @@Danboy0001 What is the point of your comment for this situation? It is well understood to be a slur. There is no grey area in that- there can be ignorance to the history or impact of casually using the word, but once that is understood there really is no excuse to use it outside of description, ideally with context. How does not owning up to using offensive language out of ignorance show more integrity?. Even if its a small percentage of people that claim offense, this is a community oriented channel- did you miss that part?
      I think you ought to reflect on what integrity *really* means and how your values and actions fit into it as a framework.

    • @Danboy0001
      @Danboy0001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@Becausing I stand by what I said. I think we all know the commercial risks Sorted faces by being potentially blacklised by sponsors or indeed TH-cam in the current hyper sensitive climate we live in, for even a hint of offending someone. Their apology is totally understandable in that climate. But that shouldn't be conflated with integrity. But readers /viewers can of course make up their own minds.

  • @JO-mz1bo
    @JO-mz1bo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    “It’s evaporated”
    “But it’s still there!”
    Ahhh I laughed so hard thank you

    • @simonwood1260
      @simonwood1260 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was the line of the show

  • @sbiiine
    @sbiiine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +513

    Fun fact: I knew Irish Moss because I used to work for LUSH and they use it in a lottttt of their products. I mean, they are from Poole and get it from a local farmer😍. As far as cosmetics goes: Irish Moss / Carageenan has already made it global 😊

    • @CiderDivider
      @CiderDivider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Awesome!! It’s cool to know it can be used outside of cooking as well.

    • @A2nthop
      @A2nthop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Carageenan is already used in many of those "Jello-cups" that you see in grocery stores as a vegan gelatin replacement. So definitely already very global.

    • @washipuppy
      @washipuppy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I remember seeing it on a food additive's program about where the stuff with weird names or numbers in food came from (under Carageenan ). There they were talking about it's use in low fat creamy products (Like low-fat ice cream or custards), since it can substitute more caloric-rich emulsifiers. Like a kind of local form of Agar Agar, I think? It was a while ago now.

    • @listentoblank1
      @listentoblank1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Irish Moss by definition is not British though 😂 Super popular product in brewing and other industries too, but decidedly not British

    • @itsgonnabeanaurfromme
      @itsgonnabeanaurfromme 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@listentoblank1 well, remember, british people love to colonize. So a product already well known globally, no surprise brits love to name it after themselves.

  • @Azriel1066
    @Azriel1066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    My family grew up quite poor and I can remember that when we could get fish we'd have to make best use of it. My mum managed to get Mackerel one time and she DID make Stargazy Pie. For me, this episode was a trip down memory lane and I fully believe more people should try it.

    • @Beedo_Sookcool
      @Beedo_Sookcool ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, but people these days are wimps. If it doesn't have a global chain brand on it, they don't want to try it.

  • @matthewwalker5430
    @matthewwalker5430 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    Pretty sure, in typically British fashion, "Mousehole" is actually pronounced "Mauzzle"

    • @alee_enn
      @alee_enn ปีที่แล้ว +40

      As someone who grew up in Cornwall, I can confirm that that is how it is said.

    • @simonwood1260
      @simonwood1260 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I immediately searched the comments to hope someone had mentioned this. I can just about bear the "off ofs" but Mousehole!! OMG

    • @Lilian040210
      @Lilian040210 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Typical British fashion of making words into porridge 🤣

    • @Tinil0
      @Tinil0 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Lilian040210 Hey that's not fair! Porridge actually makes sense!

    • @SennaAugustus
      @SennaAugustus 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Tinil0 No? Porridge is made with rice, not the British version of oatmeal or whatever.

  • @Anna_TravelsByRail
    @Anna_TravelsByRail 2 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    Ben is giving real dad energy in this one. 😁
    “Don’t use your spoon like that.”
    “Don’t stick your finger in it.”

    • @SquidandCatAdventures
      @SquidandCatAdventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jamie was giving real kid energy, but that's normal, lol. And yes, I know he's the actual Dad. As a viewer, I wanted him to stick his finger in his own slice since I always imagine the whole crew digging into everything immediately after the cameras are turned off and not wasting even a spoonful.

    • @DissociatedWomenIncorporated
      @DissociatedWomenIncorporated 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      “Do huckle my buff.”

  • @cakes9122
    @cakes9122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +301

    I would love to see you guys collab with Max Miller from Tasting History, would be fun to see you try to make things from his old cookbooks.
    And I am loving Barry's hair!

    • @kmgv97
      @kmgv97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Seconded!

    • @idontwanttotellyou2554
      @idontwanttotellyou2554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh that would be great!

    • @Rei.Eatsfoods
      @Rei.Eatsfoods 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I love Max that would be awesome!

    • @asparklylife3965
      @asparklylife3965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That would be an awesome collab! It's too bad they didn't get together when he was just in Scotland.

    • @nellnee72
      @nellnee72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Randomly, stargazing pie showed up in the LA Times Crossword last week. Had never heard of it before

  • @GeraldineRowe
    @GeraldineRowe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +536

    As a Kentish Maid who was brought up on gypsy tart, I don't think that filling was whipped enough. It should be light, fluffy and airy (and light in colour) all the way through. I absolutely love it.

    • @SortedFood
      @SortedFood  2 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      Thanks so much for letting us know!

    • @mintasturgill3058
      @mintasturgill3058 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      2

    • @mintasturgill3058
      @mintasturgill3058 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      2

    • @rebootweb
      @rebootweb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Have to agree. That is one of the worst gypsy tarts I have seen. But to be fair, the first one I tried to make looked like that.

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@SortedFood
      You need to put in a correction on a future as to its being made differently thanpictured.

  • @danioshea
    @danioshea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +575

    I'm sure there are a bunch of comments along these lines already, but "Mousehole" is pronounced "Mau-zel". The locals would be very scathing if you called it the former.
    Fun fact! It's also a pattern of Anvil, along with the London one.

    • @garethwilliams5809
      @garethwilliams5809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      That's why I'm here in the comments section

    • @emilyhunt5110
      @emilyhunt5110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Came here to comment this, but knew someone would have beaten me to it 😁

    • @backtoklondike
      @backtoklondike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      TBF, it's impossible for anyone to realize how to pronounce British town names. I mean it's only recently that people realized that it's pronounce wustashersauce so the people of Mousehole should be less harsh about it.

    • @stephenpalmer9375
      @stephenpalmer9375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank god I came across you comment before saying the same!

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And if you called it M'ashole, they'd have full understanding as that's the part of the body that has the biggest response after eating the pie. /s

  • @KariThomasMiller
    @KariThomasMiller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Honestly one of the best videos in a long time. Theres something so entertaining about traditional, but oft forgotten dishes. The stories attached to them and the reactions by the modern palleted normals is just a recipe for joy and laughter, while being educational and interesting. Would absolutely love to see more of this sort of thing!

    • @Amandafusion1
      @Amandafusion1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      totally agree , I love that so many British dishes have a story behind them:) Great video guys:)

  • @kristylovesmakeup2986
    @kristylovesmakeup2986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love gypsy tart and I live just over the bridge from Sheppey, and my mum taught me the recipe. A tin of fridge cold evaporated milk and 300g dark sugar. Blend until the sugar has dissolved and the mixture is airy a bit like soft whipped cream. Also helps to have a chilled bowl. Then in a sweet pastry case and cook at 180 for 15 mins, the filling should have puffed up and tacky to the touch but not so the mixture sticks to your fingers. Leave to cool completely and should have set perfectly. Lasts a while due to sugar content as well. 🥰 will always remind me of my mum.

    • @thepartnerincrime
      @thepartnerincrime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Gypsy tart is one of my favourites too - my nana was a dinner lady and this was one she made (pastry included!) for the school kids and a dinky one for me ☺️

    • @BIFFALA
      @BIFFALA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thanks for this!

    • @one-eyepadidally8449
      @one-eyepadidally8449 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you believe Sorted’s ridiculous comment about this tart, which was a kowtowing response to ridiculous comments left by whiny obnoxious people who constantly look to be offended over something? I can’t stand the faux outrage crowd demanding to turn everything into a politically correct issue, or face being cancelled. 😡

    • @maryholden3136
      @maryholden3136 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I never came across it until my kids went to school and it became a tradition to have it the Friday before going back to school after holidays. So I'd make it while they were eating lunch and then it would cool while we sorted out book bags, pencil cases, uniforms, socks and polished shoes (yes, we used to do that in the olden days) That evening I'd make soup with whatever vegetables were around and add red lentils or a can of beans followed by the gypsy tart. There was never any left so I can't speak for its keeping properties 😊

  • @wouldyoukindly144
    @wouldyoukindly144 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I absolutely love that Ben is giving quite an interesting explanation on the cocktail and then gives up half-way. That is golden.

  • @Alternboy
    @Alternboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    Irish moss is actually already globally used. It's a common clarifying agent for homebrewing beer :)

    • @Musicman9492
      @Musicman9492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Not just homebrewing, but brewing at-large, and very very specifically in traditional cask ale.

    • @eileendoucet2573
      @eileendoucet2573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I've also seen it on many ingrediants lists in Canadian desserts, especially vegan options. Definitely global!

    • @seriomarkj
      @seriomarkj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what's up

    • @cassieoz1702
      @cassieoz1702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And as an anti-crystallising agent in ice cream

    • @jaybee4118
      @jaybee4118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I assumed they meant the dessert, not the Irish moss alone?

  • @sarahford3497
    @sarahford3497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Ben always finds a way to insert a fish pie into videos.

  • @christineh14
    @christineh14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Carrageenan is used a lot in diet foods, ie low fat salad dressing or low sugar jam. It does the thickening that fat or sugar would do in the regular version.

  • @atinypartoftheinternet3765
    @atinypartoftheinternet3765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    If you guys haven’t tried Laverbread, you absolutely should try it in the next episode! It’s a historical Welsh food that comes from seaweed!

  • @livingthelife9155
    @livingthelife9155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I just love Ben’s enthusiasm and stories…really interesting, thank you Sorted.

  • @sean437
    @sean437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Other than the fish attempting their escape, I never knew what was in stargazy pie. It sounds quite good.

  • @iusedtowrite6667
    @iusedtowrite6667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Would love to know more about food from Scotland and Wales tbh. Usually British food is just England heavy, would love to know interesting food from the other two as well
    Loved the video though

  • @micheinnz
    @micheinnz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I'm in New Zealand and Irish moss is reasonably well known here. It's most often encountered under that name as a setting agent for jelly candies usually coloured dark green and with an astringent, medicinal flavour. Irish moss sweets are regarded as a bit old-fashioned these days but they're still available if you know where to look. Carrageenan is everywhere as a thickener in prepared foods.

    • @fortissimou257
      @fortissimou257 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you mean every pharmacy ever 😂 I grabbed Irish moss instead of black currant once and I almost vomited

  • @dottydot89
    @dottydot89 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Now there’s a new series for you; travelling around the UK to find and then try cooking all these old traditional dishes. Bring them out of obscurity to us all. Just a thought 🤞😊👍

  • @Superdud-hd1gq
    @Superdud-hd1gq ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I live in whistable opposite the isle of Sheppy just separated by a bridge. I always grew up having gypsy tart in primary school but never understood why the rest of the country had no idea what it was when I would explain it until now. Thanks for the lesson lads

  • @dwaynewladyka577
    @dwaynewladyka577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    This is like discovering music that you never heard before, or maybe hearing music in your parents music collection. When you hear it, you like it. Cheers! ✌️

    • @alexs6804
      @alexs6804 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's also a wonderful short animated film on the story.

    • @Lammington2
      @Lammington2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As someone who has stolen a not inconsiderable number of albums from my Dad, I can relate to this.

  • @chesh1rek1tten
    @chesh1rek1tten 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Carragen is used quite regularly here in Germany.. every grandma has it - it's the stuff that sets the clear jelly on our fruit cakes (Tortenguss)

    • @spreest9537
      @spreest9537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're kidding, that's what that is??

    • @robopecha
      @robopecha ปีที่แล้ว

      it is not gelatine??

    • @Patterner
      @Patterner ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robopecha according the manufacturer's site: carragen and starch, no gelatine at all

  • @bastianthor1
    @bastianthor1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +385

    Now the at we know about Stargazing Pie why not make it Gourmet - Sorted style 😂

    • @evieaddy9580
      @evieaddy9580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The old ways are really the gourmet way.

    • @SortedFood
      @SortedFood  2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Great idea!

    • @polaromonas
      @polaromonas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@SortedFood Make all the heads face the same way, uniformly, as if they are synchronize swimmers!

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stargazy pie sounds gourmet as is regarding taste. Sometimes simple is better.

    • @FlowingDown
      @FlowingDown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I'm pretty sure Great British Menu made a fancy version for the Queen's birthday years ago, I can't remember the name of the chef but he won the fish course with his Stargazing Pie and the dessert with Elderflower jelly.

  • @jasonericson
    @jasonericson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As several folks have pointed out, Irish moss is pretty common, especially as a beer fining agent. As carageenan it's used quite a lot in industrial food processing as a thickener, especially in non-dairy beverages like soy and almond milk to provide mouthfeel. I used this in it's powdered form when I was making non-dairy beverages professionally.

  • @anit4525
    @anit4525 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I use to make gypsy tart when I worked as a school cook 30 years ago it's lovely.

  • @samalam98
    @samalam98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You guys should do a series based on different dietary requirements and the basic knowledge behind the each condition and how to try and tackle it with food and dietary improvement. It's a massive oversight for a lot of people and a not widely talked about subject, but should be🤞

    • @darcieclements4880
      @darcieclements4880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If they had an interest in that, they would know the real reason Irish moss fell out of favor.

    • @rosehill9537
      @rosehill9537 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd love to see that!!

  • @TeaAndTunes
    @TeaAndTunes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    “Sorry beer” good to see Jamie being respectful! 😂

  • @joelthomas8296
    @joelthomas8296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This was fun episode. Seeing Barry & Jamie grasping at straws (whilst figuring out the ingredient or dish) was funny. Quint essential British dishes, that would make little sense to anyone else.

  • @RyanLaBella
    @RyanLaBella 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Never cooked with Irish moss in the kitchen but used it often for clarifying (beer) wort when homebrewing.

    • @deanwilliams2374
      @deanwilliams2374 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was betting all the homebrewers screaming "that's Irish moss!"

    • @GirishManjunathMusic
      @GirishManjunathMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like you'd do with egg white I'd guess? The foam pulls the particulate out as it sets?

  • @ItsBAndBees
    @ItsBAndBees ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Love how that “gypsy” pie really reminds me of a southern chess pie, nice and gooey inside with a bit of a crispy finish on top, basically just sugar, egg, and butter

    • @lynnea01
      @lynnea01 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Chess pie! That’s what it reminded me of too, I just absolutely could not think of the name of it lol

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Ben: “Huckle-My-Buff!”
    Jamie and Barry: “STOP IT!”
    I feel I’m watching 2 separate videos with these opposing energies lol

  • @nicolefaull7071
    @nicolefaull7071 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dad is from Cornwall and, as a child, I got a book for Christmas from family still there with the legend of Old Tom in it. One key part missing is his cat Mouser or "Mowser" who is told to have gone with him in the boat and howled a lullaby to the sea to calm it so Old Tom could fish. There is even a shop in Mousehole called The Mousehole Cat (or at least there was when I was there a few years back) presumably named after her.

  • @nofearinlove
    @nofearinlove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Irish moss is also harvested off the north/west coast of Prince Edward Island, Canada.

  • @rosehill9537
    @rosehill9537 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I know Irish moss as a cough syrup sold at most grocery stores in Australia 🇦🇺 its already global.

    • @lillianabaxter9125
      @lillianabaxter9125 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it a good cough syrup? Like equal to drug companies' concoctions?

    • @rosehill9537
      @rosehill9537 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lillianabaxter9125 depends on the cough to be honest. A mild cough it is good. As always check with a gp first incase its from an infection or something else going on. :)

  • @PoppyCorn144
    @PoppyCorn144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Because I first heard of Irish Moss through the lyrics of the Red Rat song Dwayne:-
    “Irish Moss, linseed, soursop,
    then you wouldn’t flop,
    your gal wouldn’t chat,
    and you wouldn’t have to hear this from Red Rat”
    So I always thought it was like a Viagra substitute.
    But apparently you can also use it for desserts… _The more you know_ 💫

    • @angeliquejackson1591
      @angeliquejackson1591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In Jamaica it is most definitely seen as a "substitute" for viagra 😉

    • @MelissaThompson432
      @MelissaThompson432 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      According to Google, people think it works the way you thought.

  • @polletj
    @polletj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Huckle-my-buff looks a bit like the origins of a beer-Sabayon (I love it for example with Duvel). If you want to try:
    Ingredients: 5 egg yolks (KEEP THE EGGSHELLS), 3 halves of eggshells of granulated sugar, 1 half of eggshell vanilla sugar, 3 halves of eggshells of Duvel
    1. Place the egg yolks in a saucepan and use half an eggshell as a measuring cup.
    2. Add the half eggshells of granulated sugar, vanilla sugar and Duvel to the egg yolks.
    3. Beat the cold mixture with a whisk and then place the pan over a low heat.
    4. Beat the mixture continuously with the whisk until you get a frothy sabayon.
    You can serve it in a Duvel-glass for example, with some vanilla-icecream, pour the Sabayon over it, and present it with some fresh fruit (some sour berries for example work great for the sour-sweet taste...)

  • @matreames
    @matreames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Use a spoon like you would normally use a spoon... Not like a hammer.

    • @ginger_nosoul
      @ginger_nosoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder what he would have done if given a hammer...

  • @arokh72
    @arokh72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd love to see Max Miller cover some of these dishes on Tasting History, especially Huckle-My-Buff and Stargazing Pie. Also, as someone who lives in country where Christmas is in summer, I'm glad I don't need to worry about hot beer...unless someone leaves it out of the fridge or esky...which is a crime against nature.

  • @asd1234asd1234asd
    @asd1234asd1234asd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Irish Moss is similar to something in Chinese Fujian or Guangdong Region as a desert but much more raw. I forgot the name of it but it was prepped by washing and boiling the stuff and make a jelly like substance out of it and served as is with syrup and fruits.
    Edit: Found it! It's called 石花膏. Paste From the Stone Flower, which refer to the moss.

  • @ironmanfanman4001
    @ironmanfanman4001 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The Gypsy Tart reminded me a lot of Shoofly Pie from the States.

  • @ianhowick
    @ianhowick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    But carageenan has gone global. in fact it is well known enough to have its own controversy like Gluten, even being linked to cancer, though reputable studies have, as yet, not corroborated this.

    • @woodstream6137
      @woodstream6137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      See it all the time in things like yogurt, shelf stable puddings etc

    • @gyroscope915
      @gyroscope915 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everything gives you cancer if you look hard enough.
      Breathing will give you cancer eventually

    • @karenj.4326
      @karenj.4326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's being *removed* from products in Norway now, over links to increases in inflammatory bowel disease.

    • @user-mc5vy2vk5n
      @user-mc5vy2vk5n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly, I've heard about it over ten years ago already, the veg(etari)an sources say it's great jellying agent / substitute for gelatine, made of natural stuff and not in the lab. The sources focused on food additives usually say it causes cancer and is overall evil and the regular industry sources praise it for its ability to thicken certain foods in a way which lines up with preparation / processing methods. And even though I did hear about carrageen so long, the most specific info I heard was that it's some kind of seaweed, no further information. So I'm glad I could see in this video.
      Also, I saw Irish moss going viral with people using it for shakes or blending it into gel to eat it, but they did use only the name Irish moss or sea moss, or Irish sea moss, not carrageen and I never did link these two as being the same! I learnt name Irish moss last year only and carrageen for over ten years. 😅🙈

  • @shahadjz2
    @shahadjz2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unrelated to this video but I miss the at the table content from back in the day! And actual cooking videos. I know this newer form gets more views but I miss the old stuff. It's what got me to follow you guys!

  • @benmahomet6800
    @benmahomet6800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi guys it's a great vid as always but I'm not sure if you know that the Sea Weed gum is a common ingredient in Icecream...and with that dry and liquid softserve mixes. I had the pudding as an Irish family friends meals as a kids as they had a link to the area where they harvested from the Sea.

  • @eilseoighe2223
    @eilseoighe2223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am irish and seeing this made me smile! The first dish is called carraigín in irish (pronounced cor a geen not cor a jeen). My mum used to make this dessert all the time and served it with butterscotch sauce. It's also good boiled with water lemon and honey for a cold cure. You just sip the liquid do not eat the moss. It's full of good stuff!

    • @eilseoighe2223
      @eilseoighe2223 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't say anywhere in my comment it wasn't British. A dish can be traditional to more than one country. I commented because it brought back good memories and made me smile.

  • @NicksGotBeef
    @NicksGotBeef 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great episode. Would love to see you do Sussex Pond Pudding sometime… some good food that.

  • @Miingno
    @Miingno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Firstly, thanks for not including a spoilery preview at the beginning of the video. That way I could enjoy the whole of it without knowing already what's to come.
    Then, as someone who's not from the UK, one thing that gives British food a bad image is literally the image of the food. All four dishes were brown 😅
    Yet despite that, I'd still give them a go. So, thanks for the history lesson!

    • @stephenpalmer9375
      @stephenpalmer9375 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except for the white one 😂

    • @Arcadia61
      @Arcadia61 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Things cooked in the oven are usually brown. What's wrong with that? Prefer pink pastry or turquoise fish?

  • @amberdavies3178
    @amberdavies3178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Ive seen carrageenan on ingredient lists for gluten free foods - so cool to know what it is now!

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Carrageenan is a derivative of carrageen, used to make ice cream seem smoother. Carrageenan is bad for you but carrageen less so..

    • @darren_anscombe
      @darren_anscombe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've only ever seen it in toothpaste

    • @oldvlognewtricks
      @oldvlognewtricks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always associate it with that McDonald’s milkshake gloopy froth texture… I don’t know if they still use it as their thickener.

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oldvlognewtricks
      Think it was to give silkiness. Theie thickener had to be artificial. That stuff would hit the sidewalk and never melt in the hot sun. After seeing that a time or two I stopped drinking their milkshakes.

  • @april147
    @april147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for explaining what's evaporated milk because I'm seeing it many recipes these days but I didn’t quite understand!

  • @sush07
    @sush07 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd heard of Star hazy pies somewhere else before... Thought the name was because the fish in the pie looked up--gazed towards the sky/ stars... But this story is beautiful

  • @kasgrieve9741
    @kasgrieve9741 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve lived in kent my whole life, I never knew Gypsy tart wasn’t a well known treat, you find it in all the supermarkets here, and I believe it’s commonly made with condensed milk down here, and most gypsy tarts you buy have a slight sprinkling of brown sprinkles on top but it’s genuinely such a tasty treat, absolutely god tier

  • @jpbaley2016
    @jpbaley2016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’m so surprised they never heard of carrageenan. It is a very common food additive, especially in dairy products like yogurt and ice cream. Do they not read food labels or is carrageenan listed by an E code in the ingredient list?

    • @urosmarjanovic663
      @urosmarjanovic663 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was used, but i think that they found it to be bad for you. Same as for other thickening agents... they tend to stuck to lower intestine and cause all sorts of problems.

    • @jpbaley2016
      @jpbaley2016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@urosmarjanovic663 ???? It appears carrageenan may be linked to inflammation if you have IBD. But, I never heard about it getting “stuck”. Konjac, a substance from sweet potatoes and used as a diet aid as it’s very low carbohydrate and swells up making people feel full, has caused deaths because it has gotten stuck in the throat and people (including children) have asphyxiated. Saying thickening agents get stuck in the intestines sounds pseudoscience to me. It’s a carbohydrate, it’s digestible. Sounds like the idea comes from the same people, who tout “colon cleanses”.

    • @urosmarjanovic663
      @urosmarjanovic663 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jpbaley2016 Cellulose is also carbohydrate, and it doesn't get digested by humans...

    • @jpbaley2016
      @jpbaley2016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@urosmarjanovic663 So? What has that to do with carrageenan? You’re taking fiber not thickening agents. And fiber is good for your digestion and intestinal mobility.

  • @nickybookz222
    @nickybookz222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Agar Agar is made from seaweed and I believe this has been used worldwide for centuries as a substitute for gelatin.

    • @russergee49
      @russergee49 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep! I’ve started experimenting with agar agar in desserts, pretty sure it’s used in Japanese cuisine but I’m not sure where else

    • @LimaBear1235
      @LimaBear1235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      agar agar is different to carrageenan

    • @lulana9545
      @lulana9545 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@russergee49Agar is a classic gelatine alternative in Germany and widely used. Also literally every lab anywhere uses it xD It's a polysaccharide as well but a different one. However, opposite to the type of carrageenan found literally everywhere, it's not suspected of being a cancerogen.

  • @davidscoles6283
    @davidscoles6283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not nit picking but as a resident Cornish man, Mousehole is pronounced “Mowzle”.
    Keep up the great content!

  • @ethancampbell215
    @ethancampbell215 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    British dishes originate out of necessity using regionally sourced ingredients which I love! The Wigan Slappy isn’t pretending to be fancy or pretentious, it’s a simple concept of a beef, potato and onion pie sandwiched in a roll, it’s a filling calorific dish that is cheap to make and uses local ingredients and does its primary function of feeding and sustaining the consumer

  • @katyaallnutt693
    @katyaallnutt693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Carrageenan is global. I live in Vancouver, Canada and I see it in ingredients lists all the time as a thickener in sour cream, yogurt, desserts, etc. In non-food products I see it too, for bath products especially.

  • @Lilian040210
    @Lilian040210 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I kinda love these traditional dishes that come with a history. I love that people still do dishes that were made out of scarcity, but became beloved and sentimental enough to be made to this day on occasion or as a nostalgic trip to the past.

  • @pattheplanter
    @pattheplanter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Punch was a much earlier cocktail first mentioned in 1632 in India. Arrack (palm sap spirit), water, sugar, lime juice and nutmeg. Proper cocktail you could try now, none of the egg nonsense. There was an earlier version without the nutmeg.

    • @LtFoeHammer
      @LtFoeHammer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's also Lamb's Wool and wassail, and sack posset, all contending for "old mixed beverage". The "cocktail" wasn't a thing until just into the 19th century and referred to a drink made of four things: spirit, sugar, water, and bitters. That definition has of course evolved but I would argue that batched punch or nog type drinks still don't properly qualify.

    • @Divig
      @Divig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We still drink punsch in Sweden. Made with arrack, water, lemon juice, sugar and tea.

  • @AOOTWG
    @AOOTWG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love whatever got stuck on Ben’s tooth at the end there. Had me doing a double take wondering when Ben suddenly had a tooth gap 😂

  • @greeneyedtrombonist
    @greeneyedtrombonist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love that there are more local things that can surprise the boys still. I wouldn't touch the cocktail, but I'd probably try everything else (a very small portion of the tart- a lot of that seems overwhelming).

    • @annother3350
      @annother3350 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They just needed a bit of sugar in the cocktail

  • @johnhmaloney
    @johnhmaloney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen carrageenan in ingredient lists countless times, but I never knew where it came from. You learn something new every day.

    • @listentoblank1
      @listentoblank1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plot twist; it generally comes from Ireland, not Britain

  • @huggledemon32
    @huggledemon32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Watching videos like this- I’d LOVE the boys to review Terry Pratchetts “Nanny Ovg’s Cookbook”- it’s already FULL on inuendo’s- Ben’s job would already be done for him!!!🤷‍♀️🥰😂

    • @nat3007
      @nat3007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've suggested this I think twice now I would still love it to happen.

    • @bjrgfjran312
      @bjrgfjran312 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would LOVE that.

  • @mattiaikas1634
    @mattiaikas1634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Irish Moss is also widely known among homebrewers as it`s an effective ingredient to add into your wort in the boiling phase to bind loose proteins thus resulting a more clear beer. The stargazer pie is also a traditional Finnish Karelian food known as "Pääpälli". I`ve never tried it myself but quick googling says the ingredients are pretty much 1 to 1.

  • @natalierake4403
    @natalierake4403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There’s a lovely picture book called The Mousehall Cat that tells the story of the stargazing pie. It’s great. I was so excited to see it “for real”.

  • @sahaben
    @sahaben 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I absolutely adore Gypsy tart and love in Kent (about 20 minutes for the Isle of Sheppy) and grown up on it! My Mum made it loads. In my local shops it is called Gypsy tart. I never realised it had historical significance in Kent and wasn’t known across the UK. Thank you Sorted Food for sharing the history. ❤

  • @Exayevie
    @Exayevie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Huckle-My-Buff is very similar (possibly a precursor?) to Flip, which I first heard about on the Townsends channel. It's heated ale, brandy or rum, sugar, and egg (though not SIX eggs, that seems excessive!)
    I made flip for a Halloween party one year after seeing the Townsends video, and it's been a fall staple for me ever since! Such a weird but ultimately delicious cocktail! Definitely better with sugar and rum than just eggs and beer though, I would think...

  • @oropher777
    @oropher777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This was fascinating! Now do French Canadian foods. Want to see the boys' reaction to marinades, tour tiered, and salmon pie.

  • @Chris.BingoRingo
    @Chris.BingoRingo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    fab, Gypsy Tart was a staple school dinner pud for me growing up in North Kent. As someone else said, it should be whipped more.

    • @TheFactsWin
      @TheFactsWin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeh, I have fond memories of it from school lunches as well. Cool to know what it's made of now, I might try to make some myself

    • @Chris.BingoRingo
      @Chris.BingoRingo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheFactsWin But do we remember the Rhyme about Gypsy Tart!!??

  • @ShallieDragon
    @ShallieDragon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stargazy Pie was actually one of the dishes I had the last time I went to London. It didn't have the pilchards sticking out of it, but the dish itself was absolutely delicious. Warm, filling, a fantastic meal on a cold winter's evening. Highly recommend.

  • @NinaMcKayYoloSwag
    @NinaMcKayYoloSwag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This video is a sign you need to visit Mousehole, to make it up to the locals!!!

  • @TheGermanlaura
    @TheGermanlaura 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know that sorted is all about food and I love that. But, I would love the see a bit more behind the scenes as sorted is not just the 4 of you anymore but plenty of more people. So for example how does a week or day look for the food team? How does a day/week look for Ebbers? Or for Jamie or..... I think it is so interesting how you channel has outgrown its origins.

  • @suspensory9126
    @suspensory9126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Welcome back Barry!!
    Great video guys! I haven't laughed this hard in awhile. You guys are great ☺️

  • @tresnadewi9940
    @tresnadewi9940 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    these guys so chill
    I enjoy watching them

  • @TheKirbyT
    @TheKirbyT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The tart seems similar to an American shoofly pie. It's a Pennsylvania Dutch and Amish desert that is essentially a molasses custard filling in pie pastry with a crumble topping. It's so sweet that while it's cooling, one would have to continuously shoo the flies away from the pie.

    • @s_nunyabiznez
      @s_nunyabiznez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was my first thought too!

    • @beckycaughel7557
      @beckycaughel7557 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much for providing the reason for the name for shoofly pie I’ve known in this dish for a long time but I’ve never known why it had its name

  • @sprattowen
    @sprattowen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Dorset lad who has been away from home far too long, Star Gazey Pie brought a tear to my eye! My grandma used to tear me the story of Old Tom and the Mousehall Cat

  • @intricateearthling8388
    @intricateearthling8388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In Quebec, we have a similar pie to no.2 "Tarte au sucre" but made with maple syrup as it was / is the local source of sugar. This got me a bit nostalgic in all the best ways. Gotta go and bake one now!

    • @oldvlognewtricks
      @oldvlognewtricks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ‘Treacle tart’ is probably the closest UK equivalent to a tarte au sucre: filled with golden syrup and stabilised with breadcrumbs.

    • @cathc.1660
      @cathc.1660 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Coming at this really really late, as a french Canadian from Quebec I agree the pie is just like Tarte au Sucre I have four aunt's who have passed down their own Tarte au Sucre recipes to me and they are ALL made with brown sugar. The most simple one is just brown sugar, milk and a tablespoon of flour mixed right in the uncooked pie shell and baked. Very simple and turns out every time 😊

  • @Masterosouffle1
    @Masterosouffle1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always served with half an apple for school dinners - still love them and actually had one yesterday, which luckily looked a lot better than that on. It should definitely be homogeneous and creamy rather than dark, would love to see it being made properly on the channel

  • @pdrg
    @pdrg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Traditional dish you might like to try - Beastings Pudding - quite niche but delicious

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never heard of that one.

    • @helenswan705
      @helenswan705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First milk, right?

    • @aislingmurphy1822
      @aislingmurphy1822 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beastings as in colostrum?? Is it just a nickname like the stargazy pie?

  • @CelticDuelist
    @CelticDuelist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The stargazy pie reminded me of my holidays in Mousehole hahahaha we ordered it because it sounded really nice but as soon as it hit the table we were starstruck :DDD

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I’m so happy the Cocktail is called ‘Huckle-My-Buff’ and ‘Huckle-My-Berry’ 😂

    • @SortedFood
      @SortedFood  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Great names huh 😂

    • @cftyftyufyfuyfty
      @cftyftyufyfuyfty 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it because you'd... huck... after..?

    • @-_James_-
      @-_James_- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If someone's huckling your berry, you can probably get some cream from the chemists for that.

    • @neutraltral8757
      @neutraltral8757 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Huckle-My-Berry sounds like a Finnish cocktail rather than British, though I could very well be mistaken. 😇

    • @eringalin2075
      @eringalin2075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Huckleberry Finn, Huckleberry Hound, then a favorite movie quote “I’m your Huckleberry “.

  • @timl8302
    @timl8302 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I use Irish Moss in the boil, during beer making. t is used as a clarify. FYI-Butter Beer is probable a low alcohol beer with a Diacytyl level. it would be less wet if you put vents in the top of the pastry.

  • @damienmcgowan8147
    @damienmcgowan8147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The happiness on Bens face when Jamie got the pie right 😂 #proudmaw

  • @dicesagrav160
    @dicesagrav160 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The way Ben said " and you are not a malnourished child" 😂😂😂 to Jaime after eating a big slice of the tart...

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jamie’s various interpretation of ‘Huckle-My-Buff’ were just brilliant 😂

    • @eringalin2075
      @eringalin2075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I particularly liked “huffle my Puff”.

  • @adriennetochter6873
    @adriennetochter6873 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve heard Stargazey Pie referenced and am glad to see what it looks like and hear the story.

  • @Scandic45
    @Scandic45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Im very fascinated by Cuisine from northern europe or countries that don't have acess to some certain ingridients and how to get around that. So great video! Now do a Icelandic food video
    edit: I love Pie

  • @PabloEdvardo
    @PabloEdvardo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ice cream in the states is FULL of carageenan and guar gum, which are both stabilizers that give ice cream a bit of a 'gummy' mouth feel. It's actually quite hard or expensive to find ice cream that's literally just frozen milk and cream among the myriad of commercial brands.
    While most people don't notice it, when you have ice cream without it, the difference is night and day. "Real" ice cream melts into a thin, creamy sauce in your mouth. Stabilized ice cream maintains a 'gummy' mouth feel even as it melts. Stabilized ice cream also will dry and harden when left out in the sun... it's not very appetizing.

  • @daniellerayfield3057
    @daniellerayfield3057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm from Kent but close to the London side and gypsy tart is sold in supermarkets such as Tesco and Morrisons but it's always in small local traditional bakeries and they are delicious . Due to the term gypsy being used as a slur from people outside of the travelling community some also call it Kentish tart x

  • @BethGrantDeRoos
    @BethGrantDeRoos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My family found a Stargazy pie recipe on the Saveur site and insist we make one! Coleman’s mustard powder is even in the crust. We have a fish monger to has fresh sardines too! THANK YOU

  • @clusterbungle
    @clusterbungle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Only one I recognised was stargazey pie. I've heard of it but never tried it, would love to though it looked delicious! 😊
    Huckle my buff sounded genuinely disgusting but I salute you guys for sacrificing your tastebuds for our entertainment 😂

  • @jeremygoode5166
    @jeremygoode5166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Berry pulls off the professional bowler look.
    Does the sorter crew have a bowling team?

  • @furrantee
    @furrantee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Every article I've ever read about traditional British food has always included things like toad in the hole, bubble and squeak, spotted dick and stargazy pie. Usually the oddly named or looking dishes. I would love to try any of the four minus the beer egg cocktail as I don't drink.

  • @IanBalek
    @IanBalek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Irish moss is often used in homemade beerbrewing - it helps clarify the beer as it forces proteins in the beer mash together, those then fall to the bottom of the fermentation barrel and thus it clarifies the beer, be it lager or ale. Even larger craftbreweries use it.

  • @johnbaldwin143
    @johnbaldwin143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That Stargazers pie, I have now put that in my wish list. It is akin to the Scottish tradition of Burns night. Or any one of hundreds of regional dishes and the stories behind them.

  • @karikalahari
    @karikalahari ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah! Stargazy pie! 🤩As a kid I loved The Mousehole Cat, a story of Tom Bawcock, but with a brave cat in it too. Years later I sailed up the coast of Norway, with my cat as first mate, and got holed up in a small harbour during a bad storm. I had just caught some mackerel while we sailed for cover, and cooked up a sort of Stargazy pie for us both. One of my fondest food memories.

  • @LikeItOrLumpIt2107
    @LikeItOrLumpIt2107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    It's not Mouse Hole - it's pronounced Mowzzle

    • @Hailey_piggie
      @Hailey_piggie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I literally shouted "No!" when he said it lmfao

    • @mrhedgebull1658
      @mrhedgebull1658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was just about to make this comment.

    • @depressiespaghetti9979
      @depressiespaghetti9979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would say more like Mowzall

    • @EP3Stuff
      @EP3Stuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bleddy well is innum! 😂 you tell em my beauty.

    • @bethanyfox4738
      @bethanyfox4738 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was always told the story of the mousehole cat as well as a kid and was sad when they didn't mention that story but theirs is most likely more the real story than the cat one lol

  • @lesliesteele3926
    @lesliesteele3926 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spaf beating Baz to something is priceless. The joy on their faces and singing a childs rhyme ... lovely moment.

  • @LeaHartmann
    @LeaHartmann 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I LOVE the Stargazy Pie story and the look of the pie would definitely be a spectacle to see! 🥧 👀
    But, admittedly, I'm of those people who can't stand fishy/oily fish. In fact, I can't stand being in the kitchen when my hubs opens a can of tuna because the smell. 😝
    The fish/seafood I eat myself is limited to shrimp cocktail and deep fried catfish, clam strips, calamari, and shrimp. 😋

    • @remusliupin
      @remusliupin ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you feel about salmon? Or clams/mussels/scallops 🤔

    • @flygirl4983
      @flygirl4983 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whoa! My sister!
      I could add creamy herring.

    • @tessjuel
      @tessjuel ปีที่แล้ว

      One of Terry Pratchett's Discworld books had a variant using rats rather than fish. Would that do for those who don't like seafood?

  • @lauralaura396
    @lauralaura396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A bit off-topic, but I really like Barry's hair in this video. It looks really good on him.
    Thanks for the fun and interesting video!