A well explained video and and an interesting kit indeed. I have some additional points to add to yours however my knowledge on suspension could be better so I could be wrong and am open to input on all of these statements below. - RCA's: I didn't know it was possible to have enough travel to max out the angle of a tension rod joint. Normally the main purpose for RCA's is to correct the lower control arm angle. This results in less positive camber change under compression. The longer LCA's help in this regard as they throw a wider arc. On a side note I have seen under an AE86 that was built by TRD for the Bathurst race series (Australian racetrack) and it had a rather unusual LCA system. It's quite hard to describe, it bolted to bottom of the strut and used something like a round extension to hold the LCA outer ball joint as close to the disk brake as possible. It was all made out of a single piece. My memory is vague as it was a very long time ago that I saw it. - Scrub radius: Another side effect of having a worse scrub radius is the worse the negative steering feedback there is meant to be from forces pushing on the road surface. This is due to an increased scrub radius having a larger amount of leverage for forces to be able push back. - Control arm strength: Additional strength may well be both a good and bad thing. OEM LCA's can act like a mechanical fuse and bend before sending forces into the inner suspension points. Perhaps it might be possible to cause the sub-frame to bend with the combination of a nasty sideways hit to a wheel and strong LCA's? Or maybe the sub-frame bolts would just sheer off instead? I have no idea.
Possibly! It might depend on the steering knuckle. These are designed with drifting in mind - I'm not sure what type of Ackermann you would want for grip racing
i actually thought the same and reached out to Just engineering. while it would be possible to track race the geometry that is created and akerman is best suited to going sideways. i cant recall the specifics but the minimum amount of camber you can dial in on these is 5 deg which is way too aggressive to maintain inner tyre grip for circuit racing. they are however releasing a new arm soon that will fit in between these and the oem arms in terms of functionality. really great company to deal with you should hit them up and see if they have something on offer for your build.
A well explained video and and an interesting kit indeed. I have some additional points to add to yours however my knowledge on suspension could be better so I could be wrong and am open to input on all of these statements below.
- RCA's: I didn't know it was possible to have enough travel to max out the angle of a tension rod joint. Normally the main purpose for RCA's is to correct the lower control arm angle. This results in less positive camber change under compression. The longer LCA's help in this regard as they throw a wider arc. On a side note I have seen under an AE86 that was built by TRD for the Bathurst race series (Australian racetrack) and it had a rather unusual LCA system. It's quite hard to describe, it bolted to bottom of the strut and used something like a round extension to hold the LCA outer ball joint as close to the disk brake as possible. It was all made out of a single piece. My memory is vague as it was a very long time ago that I saw it.
- Scrub radius: Another side effect of having a worse scrub radius is the worse the negative steering feedback there is meant to be from forces pushing on the road surface. This is due to an increased scrub radius having a larger amount of leverage for forces to be able push back.
- Control arm strength: Additional strength may well be both a good and bad thing. OEM LCA's can act like a mechanical fuse and bend before sending forces into the inner suspension points. Perhaps it might be possible to cause the sub-frame to bend with the combination of a nasty sideways hit to a wheel and strong LCA's? Or maybe the sub-frame bolts would just sheer off instead? I have no idea.
so i wonder if this kit would also be suitable for track racing seems like it reduces a lot of the flex caused by the tension rod
Possibly! It might depend on the steering knuckle. These are designed with drifting in mind - I'm not sure what type of Ackermann you would want for grip racing
i actually thought the same and reached out to Just engineering.
while it would be possible to track race the geometry that is created and akerman is best suited to going sideways.
i cant recall the specifics but the minimum amount of camber you can dial in on these is 5 deg which is way too aggressive to maintain inner tyre grip for circuit racing.
they are however releasing a new arm soon that will fit in between these and the oem arms in terms of functionality.
really great company to deal with you should hit them up and see if they have something on offer for your build.
Do you think this would work well with an excessive subframe with the rack moved foward
Yes. My rack is moved forward 1". You have to have a relocated steering rack with this kit to prevent overcentering :)
Cool I'd have to get another subframe anyway I currently have rack 2 in forward and lower control arms 1in (I know that wouldn't bolt up to this
Should I get it for my 86
I've been drifting on this kit for over a year and I absolutely love it.
@@DoctoredGarage do you have a link that I could look up and order form or even a name of the people that make it 🔥👌🙌
Yeah man, there's a link in the video description.
www.justengineering.ca/shop/toyota/ae86-super-angle-kit/
@@DoctoredGarage you are a good man🔥🔥🔥😭thank you so much my hachiroku brother . respect 💯 from the land down under 👌🤘
nice opened youtube just in time for this upload lol