Dallas didn't "find" anything. The Celtics missed 29 three pointers!!! That's the reason the game was even close at all. They hit a few of those, and it would have been game 1 all over again.
@@gorcsauce696 that's wrong. Coming into tonight they were shooting 38% from 3 during the playoffs and tonight was the 3rd worst shooting night all season. So no, they don't "always" have bad nights. They're one of the best 3pt shooting teams ever
These dudes called Ant Michael Jordan for shooting 6/24 vs Denver but say Tatum sucks for shooting 6/22 against elite rim protectors (while dominating every other aspect of the game)
Kyrie played like shit 😂 so this is top heavy team the role player are fine but they don’t really changes games both Luka and kyrie need together go off it like the cavs 2016 roster needs kyrie and Luka both to score 30 to win
Joel is a casual clown. If Luka wins he's the best in the world, if Tatum wins he's "maybe" top 10. Bro is salty af. PeeWeeDaPlug told Joel what's up... 👏BOSTON 👏 IS 👏 THE 👏 BEST 👏 TEAM 👏 IN 👏 THE 👏 LEAGUE 👏 ALL 👏 YEAR 👏 LONG 👏 Get good nephew
How do you not understand the logic? You yourself say that the Celtics have been the best team all year long, that means that Tatum doesn’t have to play like a top 5 player in the world for the Celtics to win since he’s surrounded by such good players. When you compare Tatum to Luka, who’s team isn’t nearly as good and wasn’t expected to make the finals, he just has a much larger margin of error. So if Luka won, you’d expect him to have to put up huge numbers in order to beat the team who you say is “the best team in the league”. Pretty simple
I’m sorry, but the Tatum hate is starting to get a little OD. Celtics are 2 wins away from winning the finals and Joel wants to talk about “Where will Tatum rank if celtics sweeps” like wtf does it matter? You can’t seriously tell me that this is good analysis, starting a SGA vs Tatum debate is insane when talking about a team that might sweep the finals lmao
Hahahahaha Joel and John make me laugh with that SGA take. Our defense will fall off the cliff if SGA were in our team. Tatum literally guards 1 through 5 and can switch onto anyone. Not to mention, Tatum is selfless being willing to pass and create on offense. SGA is nice, but Tatum offers much more to this team
@@WLJ1287 their bigs have zero bags bro. If they aren’t catching lobs for the most part what needs to be guarded?? And if you’re playing through them with Luka and Kyrie on the floor that’s already a win for you.
@@ShonSecludedwhy do u think they’re not catching lobs this series tho? It’s obviously cuz of how versatile Tatum’s defense is with guarding the Dallas centers plus he could switch out on Luka and guard him too cuz he’s a solid perimeter defender
Not really, the reason why he gets alot of steal is because he lets people get by him in order to poke the ball out, in a series like this allowing Luka to get down hill will be detrimental however shai does provide rim protection however Boston rely on shutting down the perimeter@@ShonSecluded
I believe that if Tatum wins this title, I can't say Luka is better than him. Tatum is not only the better defensive player, but he's an equal at scoring/playmaking, which are both overlooked. Rebounding wise, Tatum wins because of height, length, and overall athleticism. As a team player and leader, I like Tatum over Luka, although I don't know much about Luka's leadership....the team playstyle isn't really good for a majority of players in the current NBA (heliocentric).
The physicality has been pretty fair for both teams JT was getting hammered going to the basket so if they keep even I’m good stop trying to ask the ref to help your team when you’re losing
The SGA - Tatum thing is ridiculous. Unless SGA is generating a ridiculous amount more of points and assists... then there is no way it's even close. Tatum is a threat offensively and defensively. No one is hunting for him on switches. If SGA were on that Boston squad...he for sure would be getting hunted down by Doncic defensively.
SGA as a scorer and playmaker clears Tatum tho and SGA leads league in steals and is amazing help defender and shotblocker for a guard. And Tatum was getting hunted a lot as well tf?
I don’t understand people talking about physicality… maybe I just don’t watch a lot of west coast games, but east playoffs have been physical since Boston played Miami, Cleveland & Indiana series also hella physical no one crying and now with Dallas everyone crying that Boston too physical? I thought they had the hardest road to the finals and they can’t handle physicality?! This the finals everything is at a heightened level & physicality is just part of playoff basketball
They love to talk about how the east os weak, but never talk about how hard it is to play against teams in the east because of their physicality. Bucks, Knicks, Heat, Cavs, Pacers and Celtics are all teams that will beat you up throughout a 7 seven game series. It's why someone like KD struggled in the east.
@@marcoferreira4886 east coast has always had very physical playoffs series. I remember fondly 90s miami vs indiana and new york vs miami series they were practically wrestling match and beat downs and no one was yelling too physical
JT is a top 5 player hands down what he does on both ends is more valuable scoring is not the end all be all when it comes to a player he does it all he’ has a become a complete player at his size which is rare in the league
@@scotthoward8384 if the celtics had lost this game u wouldn’t be writing this, jt is a great player but he objectively played under his standards both of these games. It is very hard for me to put him top 5 when he is not even consistently the best player on his team on a night to night basis. Yes versatility is great, but that doesn’t automatically put him above players who are less versatile. Ben simmons is more versatile than devin booker, that doesn’t make booker worse than simmons. Top 5 is a very hard achievement especially in today’s league. Jayson tatum is a top 10 level type of player and thats okay.
Please tell me you guys were being sarcastic when you said of course the Celtics would be up 2-0 with Lebron instead of Tatum. Lebron standing the corner for 40min a game ain’t doing shit
While both teams deserve to be in the finals, the Celtics defense is making the rest of the mavs outside of Luka not look good. Boston truly is just the better team
@lonepengueen9187 they love the game. They love the hustle. I respect it lol. Tatum is getting superstar hate but he's not a superstar lol. He's just a really high level role player. Idk what happened to his jumper he used to have in 2021
@@yeatdagoat173 I’m not a Celtics fan, but if 3 straight All-NBA first teams means you’re not a superstar then let me not even entertain this conversation
can someone tell the quiet dude in the top right to develop a personality. i'm not tryna hear a chatgpt description on what happened lol. talk your shit boi
Joel - Dallas aint find shit lol Boston just couldn’t hit a shot to save their lives. If what Dallas “found” is giving Gafford the ball in the post then the Mavs are COOKED 😂 Boston is just the better team
Is someone who is hunted like Luka still a top 5 player? He scored 30 but they scored 40+ points on him. We would speak about it if this was someone else
The problem that they’re having is they’re defending JT like the best player they’re collapsing in on all of his drives forcing him to passing out which he does at an elite level as opposed to defending JB like the best player cuz if they did they would immediately see he’s not as good at finding the open guys they’re tryna eliminate JT 2s in exchange for open 3s and i promise that game plan will not work for 4 games
If they don’t double him he can go off and get 30 plus points and still pass, JB will still pass decently as well as the other guards and centers on Bos
@@tylerleamon7874 im a Celtics fan so I want them to win but I can be unbiased I still wanna see good hoops the best why to do that is to make them do shit they aren’t comfortable with the problem is that’s very hard cuz everyone on the court is good at everything it’s a better of 2 evil situation
@@WLJ1287 I agree if they do that JT will go off cuz nobody on that team can guard him but if you have a 20/10/9 game from JT that gets JB jrue white horford or KP hot which is not what you want but forcing JB to dribble in traffic and make those right reads will work a lot better than forcing JT to do it cuz he’s just better at that than JB
If the celtics were losing these games, everyone would be on JT's ass. Winning or losing shouldn't matter in the sense of how we see him actually playing. In 2018 we weren't on bron's case for this exact reason. A top 5 player in the league can't be this bad a scorer and still be classed as top 5 just because his team is insane. He isn't Jrue Holiday. We can expect more. Everything with JT is 'if'. Fact is he just shot 6/22 after an ass game 1 scoring performance and still is up 2-0. THAT is privilege. However Celtic fans shouldn't care about this. Win this final and talk your shit.
Luka scores 32 getting 1v1s all night with no defense he’s a killer…. Tatum scores 18 getting double and triple teamed all game with clutch rebounds, steals late game and great defense all game and he sucks 😂
Tatum shot 6/22 bruh they are packing paint on Luka and letting him play 1 on 1 bc his team is not talented as celtics and bc he is a great playmaker that u can’t help off.
If they aren't that good, why did they just dismantle the Mavs the best team in the West? They're not just good, they're elite. You're just a hater. 😂😂😂😂
tatums defence is the most overrated thing, luka scored his highest percentage on tatum so lets stop acting like tatum is shutting down the source of dallas main offence. secondly the"take away" arguement is a very dumb arguement especially if we have a sample size of sga elite scoring never taken away in the face of the toughest defence.tatum, once its a jumper is hit or miss
Joel if you hate Tatum just say it you are not good at hiding the hate a all it’s so funny your takes are stupid 😂😂😂😂 I pray to god that you see that message
@@karlliebknecht2987Tatum can’t score pass only rebound 😂. Jokic can’t defend and curry yet they are super star what ur point Tatum bouta play the worst super star ever in final and his team still win his stacked his roster is 😂
Dallas didn't "find" anything. The Celtics missed 29 three pointers!!! That's the reason the game was even close at all. They hit a few of those, and it would have been game 1 all over again.
Celtics always miss lol they just dribble penetrate team kick back cuz all of them are decent 3 point shooters .
@@gorcsauce696”celtic always miss” yet are one of the best volume 3 point shooting teams all time lmao
@@vnkawdi they always have stinker shooting night cuz they jump shot team at least once or twice in series lol .
@@gorcsauce696yup and they won one of those games, that may not repeat itself but once over the next several games which is an issue for dal.
@@gorcsauce696 that's wrong. Coming into tonight they were shooting 38% from 3 during the playoffs and tonight was the 3rd worst shooting night all season. So no, they don't "always" have bad nights. They're one of the best 3pt shooting teams ever
I deadass don’t think Joel even believes what he’s saying. Bro knows deep down them boys are about to get the broom, or a broom with a tie on it
"A broom with a tie on it" 😂😭😂
I've been saying gentleman's sweep at most
@@isaiahthomas4444 use this for next year. 😂😂 that’s what I tell my Dallas homeboys. Them boys getting gentlemen swept
@@ShonSecludeddamn never heard that before definitely stealing it
These dudes called Ant Michael Jordan for shooting 6/24 vs Denver but say Tatum sucks for shooting 6/22 against elite rim protectors (while dominating every other aspect of the game)
The celtics played horrible and still won 😭
Kyrie played like shit 😂 so this is top heavy team the role player are fine but they don’t really changes games both Luka and kyrie need together go off it like the cavs 2016 roster needs kyrie and Luka both to score 30 to win
@@gorcsauce696that’s what happens when you build a roster where everyone has to play their role if one role is played bad everyone suffers
Horrible is a stretch
😅@@gorcsauce696
Bro doesn’t know the definition of horrible
Joel is a casual clown. If Luka wins he's the best in the world, if Tatum wins he's "maybe" top 10. Bro is salty af. PeeWeeDaPlug told Joel what's up... 👏BOSTON 👏 IS 👏 THE 👏 BEST 👏 TEAM 👏 IN 👏 THE 👏 LEAGUE 👏 ALL 👏 YEAR 👏 LONG 👏 Get good nephew
Bro is definitely a 🤡
How do you not understand the logic? You yourself say that the Celtics have been the best team all year long, that means that Tatum doesn’t have to play like a top 5 player in the world for the Celtics to win since he’s surrounded by such good players.
When you compare Tatum to Luka, who’s team isn’t nearly as good and wasn’t expected to make the finals, he just has a much larger margin of error. So if Luka won, you’d expect him to have to put up huge numbers in order to beat the team who you say is “the best team in the league”.
Pretty simple
I’m sorry, but the Tatum hate is starting to get a little OD.
Celtics are 2 wins away from winning the finals and Joel wants to talk about “Where will Tatum rank if celtics sweeps” like wtf does it matter? You can’t seriously tell me that this is good analysis, starting a SGA vs Tatum debate is insane when talking about a team that might sweep the finals lmao
Yea this thing is borderline unlistenable. I find myself skipping forward 10 seconds at a time searching for salient points
Funny part is Tatum will still win FMVP and deservingly so. His play making has been off the charts
Hahahahaha Joel and John make me laugh with that SGA take. Our defense will fall off the cliff if SGA were in our team. Tatum literally guards 1 through 5 and can switch onto anyone. Not to mention, Tatum is selfless being willing to pass and create on offense. SGA is nice, but Tatum offers much more to this team
SGA is a walking 30 ball no matter what and on top of that he’s a way better defender than you think. 😂
@@ShonSecludedTatum being able to lock up dal centers is one of the biggest reason they’ve held them to under 100 both times
@@WLJ1287 their bigs have zero bags bro. If they aren’t catching lobs for the most part what needs to be guarded?? And if you’re playing through them with Luka and Kyrie on the floor that’s already a win for you.
@@ShonSecludedwhy do u think they’re not catching lobs this series tho? It’s obviously cuz of how versatile Tatum’s defense is with guarding the Dallas centers plus he could switch out on Luka and guard him too cuz he’s a solid perimeter defender
Not really, the reason why he gets alot of steal is because he lets people get by him in order to poke the ball out, in a series like this allowing Luka to get down hill will be detrimental however shai does provide rim protection however Boston rely on shutting down the perimeter@@ShonSecluded
Joel gives the worst takes on the cast, but you need that. you need a Kendrick Perkins to drive comments like these
Thank you bro somebody else said it he’s so ass at his job
He legitimately the Pierre of the group 😂, not even in terms of takes but the controversy he creates.
I believe that if Tatum wins this title, I can't say Luka is better than him. Tatum is not only the better defensive player, but he's an equal at scoring/playmaking, which are both overlooked. Rebounding wise, Tatum wins because of height, length, and overall athleticism. As a team player and leader, I like Tatum over Luka, although I don't know much about Luka's leadership....the team playstyle isn't really good for a majority of players in the current NBA (heliocentric).
Lmaooo this gotta be a bait comment there’s no way uve been watching this finals and come up with this foolishness I don’t believe it 🤦🏾♂️😭😭
And u wonder why people hate on the Celtics😂.
Give Tatum DJJ & PJ & you are in the lottery. Tatum is a superteam merchant
@@GHermano41, what a casual take.
lol i was told kyrie "cleared" jaylen brown. what a joke
At this point Tatum has accomplished more than Luka but somehow Tatum winning it all doesn't move him up??
Joel never give’s Tatum credit 😂💯 if Tatum wins his going be top 5 -7 hands down going into next season ☘️💪🏽
46:01 facts riv. that man pj scored down 10 with a few minutes left and stared down and flexed lmao
Yeah he started barking too 😂
The physicality has been pretty fair for both teams JT was getting hammered going to the basket so if they keep even I’m good stop trying to ask the ref to help your team when you’re losing
SGA is not comparable to Jayson. Even suggesting that is nuts
The SGA - Tatum thing is ridiculous. Unless SGA is generating a ridiculous amount more of points and assists... then there is no way it's even close. Tatum is a threat offensively and defensively. No one is hunting for him on switches. If SGA were on that Boston squad...he for sure would be getting hunted down by Doncic defensively.
Facts
SGA as a scorer and playmaker clears Tatum tho and SGA leads league in steals and is amazing help defender and shotblocker for a guard. And Tatum was getting hunted a lot as well tf?
I don’t understand people talking about physicality… maybe I just don’t watch a lot of west coast games, but east playoffs have been physical since Boston played Miami, Cleveland & Indiana series also hella physical no one crying and now with Dallas everyone crying that Boston too physical? I thought they had the hardest road to the finals and they can’t handle physicality?! This the finals everything is at a heightened level & physicality is just part of playoff basketball
Seriously right? This is not different than what the Celtics have been facing all playoffs.
They love to talk about how the east os weak, but never talk about how hard it is to play against teams in the east because of their physicality. Bucks, Knicks, Heat, Cavs, Pacers and Celtics are all teams that will beat you up throughout a 7 seven game series. It's why someone like KD struggled in the east.
@@marcoferreira4886 east coast has always had very physical playoffs series. I remember fondly 90s miami vs indiana and new york vs miami series they were practically wrestling match and beat downs and no one was yelling too physical
@@Monmonfg, especially last year's East Coast.
I feel like historically the earlier playoff rounds are the most physical games and the reffing gets more picky in the Finals. Same with the SB.
Comparing Jayson’s defense to Lebron’s at this point is truly madness
Those circus 3s were killers… and the push in the back. But I don’t blame the ref for not seeing that
Kyrie gotta figure something out. Gafford stepped up and lively needs to match that energy
JT is a top 5 player hands down what he does on both ends is more valuable scoring is not the end all be all when it comes to a player he does it all he’ has a become a complete player at his size which is rare in the league
Writing this after bro went 6-22 aint it chief😂
@@Jack-ex1uo clearly you didn’t understand my point but you one of them casuals who don’t watch basketball who only pay attention to “scoring”
@@scotthoward8384 if the celtics had lost this game u wouldn’t be writing this, jt is a great player but he objectively played under his standards both of these games. It is very hard for me to put him top 5 when he is not even consistently the best player on his team on a night to night basis. Yes versatility is great, but that doesn’t automatically put him above players who are less versatile. Ben simmons is more versatile than devin booker, that doesn’t make booker worse than simmons. Top 5 is a very hard achievement especially in today’s league. Jayson tatum is a top 10 level type of player and thats okay.
PeeWee seems like the smartest man in the world rn. Joel's copium is real. I think mavs needed one of these 2 to win.
“LiVE aNd dIE bY tHe ThRee”
Please tell me you guys were being sarcastic when you said of course the Celtics would be up 2-0 with Lebron instead of Tatum. Lebron standing the corner for 40min a game ain’t doing shit
And not defending lol
riv back in time to hate
While both teams deserve to be in the finals, the Celtics defense is making the rest of the mavs outside of Luka not look good. Boston truly is just the better team
SGA aint done nothing that tatum has already doen multiple times lmao
Jaylen brown is Flukas father 😂😂😂
We weren’t even elite in game 1 we just had a great qtr😂
People spending money to hate on Tatum is nasty work
dedication hahahaha
@@yeatdagoat173 Dedicated to ignorance and clickbait for attention
@lonepengueen9187 they love the game. They love the hustle. I respect it lol. Tatum is getting superstar hate but he's not a superstar lol. He's just a really high level role player. Idk what happened to his jumper he used to have in 2021
@@yeatdagoat173 I’m not a Celtics fan, but if 3 straight All-NBA first teams means you’re not a superstar then let me not even entertain this conversation
@@yeatdagoat173 Tatum is a role player? Foh
It’s early to say it’s over.
Go up 3-0 then I’ll start the it’s over narrative.
Joel holding on to hope so bad😂
can someone tell the quiet dude in the top right to develop a personality. i'm not tryna hear a chatgpt description on what happened lol. talk your shit boi
This comment funny asf 😂😂😂
Joel let the hate out of your heart
Joel - Dallas aint find shit lol Boston just couldn’t hit a shot to save their lives. If what Dallas “found” is giving Gafford the ball in the post then the Mavs are COOKED 😂
Boston is just the better team
jrue holiday or jaylen brown for finals mvp. crazy to think about where either of their legacy will be if they win it
Boston in 4
Shout out to Pierre
Wait, did Joel just say that JT is playing well this series after shitting on him last pod? Good god.
Luka needs his team to carry against a well rounded team.
Lmfao my boy said Dallas gon win both games
I really don’t get Joel’s point. Kyrie is gonna have a better game in game 3 because the refs cater to the crowd? How do you figure that?
So everyone a Celtics fan now? What happen to all the Mavs supporters
Joel about to cry😭
Curly haired Mavs fan is salty af😂
Is someone who is hunted like Luka still a top 5 player? He scored 30 but they scored 40+ points on him. We would speak about it if this was someone else
Joel is cooked when Celtics in 5
Fluka is not a Top2 player in the world this season you can’t be a Top2 when you only play one side of the court 😂😂
It doesn’t help if role players aren’t shooting well
The KD Nets that the Celtics swept? Lol maybe yall forgot
The problem that they’re having is they’re defending JT like the best player they’re collapsing in on all of his drives forcing him to passing out which he does at an elite level as opposed to defending JB like the best player cuz if they did they would immediately see he’s not as good at finding the open guys they’re tryna eliminate JT 2s in exchange for open 3s and i promise that game plan will not work for 4 games
Ngl this is damn near a good strategy
If they don’t double him he can go off and get 30 plus points and still pass, JB will still pass decently as well as the other guards and centers on Bos
@@tylerleamon7874 im a Celtics fan so I want them to win but I can be unbiased I still wanna see good hoops the best why to do that is to make them do shit they aren’t comfortable with the problem is that’s very hard cuz everyone on the court is good at everything it’s a better of 2 evil situation
@@WLJ1287 I agree if they do that JT will go off cuz nobody on that team can guard him but if you have a 20/10/9 game from JT that gets JB jrue white horford or KP hot which is not what you want but forcing JB to dribble in traffic and make those right reads will work a lot better than forcing JT to do it cuz he’s just better at that than JB
If the celtics were losing these games, everyone would be on JT's ass. Winning or losing shouldn't matter in the sense of how we see him actually playing. In 2018 we weren't on bron's case for this exact reason. A top 5 player in the league can't be this bad a scorer and still be classed as top 5 just because his team is insane. He isn't Jrue Holiday. We can expect more.
Everything with JT is 'if'. Fact is he just shot 6/22 after an ass game 1 scoring performance and still is up 2-0. THAT is privilege. However Celtic fans shouldn't care about this. Win this final and talk your shit.
The way people talk about Tatum has gotten so stale and boring
dehls talk = SKIPP
Joel “ I think the mavs are gonna win game 3 “ . If only you didn’t come on here and say they were gonna win game 2 as well goofball . Boston in 5
Luka scores 32 getting 1v1s all night with no defense he’s a killer…. Tatum scores 18 getting double and triple teamed all game with clutch rebounds, steals late game and great defense all game and he sucks 😂
Tatum shot 6/22 bruh they are packing paint on Luka and letting him play 1 on 1 bc his team is not talented as celtics and bc he is a great playmaker that u can’t help off.
Riv and dels are really making me hate the Celtics there really not that good they play in the weak east
If they aren't that good, why did they just dismantle the Mavs the best team in the West? They're not just good, they're elite. You're just a hater. 😂😂😂😂
Joel the mavericks don’t have enough offensive talent to keep up.
Under 100 points both games
tatums defence is the most overrated thing, luka scored his highest percentage on tatum so lets stop acting like tatum is shutting down the source of dallas main offence. secondly the"take away" arguement is a very dumb arguement especially if we have a sample size of sga elite scoring never taken away in the face of the toughest defence.tatum, once its a jumper is hit or miss
It’s just straight Celtics fans in these comments 😂
So the Mavs can only win when they call the game soft😂😂
We live in North Korea
Well, you're a dopey Lakers fan. Of course you'd be wrong.
Cry baby luka getting swept letsss gooo🎉
Joel if you hate Tatum just say it you are not good at hiding the hate a all it’s so funny your takes are stupid 😂😂😂😂 I pray to god that you see that message
Tatum isn’t a superstar
you’re delusional
Luka cant play defense
@@karlliebknecht2987 ok?
@@karlliebknecht2987Tatum can’t score pass only rebound 😂. Jokic can’t defend and curry yet they are super star what ur point Tatum bouta play the worst super star ever in final and his team still win his stacked his roster is 😂
@@gorcsauce696outside of scoring what did he do bad
Series will be 2-2 after they leave Dallas, if kyrie can get 20 per gm
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
the problem is he can’t😭he’s locked in a box. celtics had an awful shooting night and still won, that should scare you
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts oh what a Christmas we’d have
@@WLJ1287the series will be 2-2 going back to boston and boston will choke
Celtics winning easy it’s hard for people to accept😂😂🤣🫵🏾