Crusader Kings 2 - Part 22 - Penance is Mightier than the Sword
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
- Crusader Kings 2 continues, as King Hektor begins a period of secluded penance, though arguably he doesn't seem to have grasped some of the basic concepts...
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"You died without having any children!" - Don't worry, Connor made sure we have spares.
"Good Guy" Connor
Despite being a full on satanist, he did make sure The Kingdom of Cornwall would still be a thing for at least one or two generations.
Justice Optified genetically gifted enough at*
Connor The Seducer. At the beginning of his reign, we were the Cornish. By the end, half the population of Cornwall was his descendants (The Connish?)
Things Jon considers "Holy" and "good"
1.Stealing church property
2.Murder
3. Printing new coins so that everyone knows how awesome he is
4. Practicing vices with the idea of "it's ok if I don't get caught."
Apparently "Things Jon Got Wrong" is an hour and half special this week.
To be fair, minting coinage isn't exactly a bad thing. Plus, the "right thing" Jon was referring to was him not debasing the coinage...
...saying that, the other three are accurate to Jon's beliefs.
Just throwing new money into the economy is a good way to cause inflation. But the actual reason for the money is pride. The event states that the only reason it's being done is to remind people of your rulership and even has a "glorious portrait of you". Doesn't give you the pride trait but the text definitely points towards it.
Raving Nutter Actually with regards to actual precious metal hard currency, as there's very little ability to fix prices effecitvely or even properly describe prices, the coinage being physical and moving, the possibility of currency being drained from your kingdom via trade leading into rapid deflation or a liquidity crisis, and there theoretically being an optimal amount of liquid currency for the prosperity and number of people that are in your kingdom (thus as it grows or other things happen more coins are needed), there's often legitimate call for new minting of coin.
There would be low key minting going on anyway to counter some things (and people shaving off of or clipping off of your coins which slowly devalues your monetary supply, a more common practice then). I feel like this comission event is merely the practice of updating your coin dies (what actually makes the impressions) to have your kings face instead of continuing to use the old ones (and maybe changing the text, which was common practice at the time).
Don't forget denouncing his bastard son, refusing to give him medical help when he was sick, and immediately kicking the mother out of his court and the child dies: "no big deal, the dynasty will live on"
I mean sending a woman off to spread a STD is also a little bit unholy if we're being honest
"I feel like that wasn't the Christian thing to do."
Because that's what the Kings of Cornwall have been worrying about this whole time
I think "Stuff that Jon Got Wrong" needs its own theme song. Sung by Jon, naturally.
I feel it could end with a half-hearted yay from Claire.
and don't forget the canned applause
You do realise what you've just unleashed?
UniRob! My first thought when I saw this comment! lol
It is really a great part of the show! It helps highlight mistakes to reinforce positive game mechanic utilization. Honestly, it's way more fun to watch someone else's frustration with a complex game such as this. It helps highlight those things that might not be glaringly obvious, even if it does have a tool tip with 20 some odd lines of text.
One day Jon will look at the relationships tab and realise he can see who his characters lovers are, one day...
I feel like he is overlooking it on purpose.
He absolutely knows.
Waiting for Jon to realize he can't call the doctor because he doesnt HAVE one is painful. For me and for Hektor.
Jasmine S, I've only just noticed.
I’m pretty sure you can’t call the doctor for wounded/severely injured anyway.
@@superbun277 I know it's been a year, but I just did call the doctor after being severly injured in battle. Apparently chopping of my dick was a valid cure for an axe to the chest. Joined the Benedictines, took an oath of celibacy, because producing more heirs seemed...unlikely. Guess who had a wife getting pregnant a year later and didn't see anything wrong with it, because of an Intrigue of 3.
Jon gets so excited about his plans he sometimes forgets to check if things work that way. I love it when he realises
thats the joy of a many a true nerd rpg or rts video ;p
Wait a minute... What's the Cult of Ben doing here??
"The Fragment of the True Cross will be safer in the treasury of Cornwall than some monastery" -King Hektor of Cornwall.
Andrew Rawlings something tells me Hektor might end up cursed up to his eyeballs.
I mean, considering the idea that Jesus’s death somehow diminished the strength of sin, does that mean bits of the original cross somehow became embodiments of sin? If so, the True Cross is the kind of artifact only an Indiana Jones villain would reasonably touch.
LOL. It is said that at the time this game is set there were enough 'Fragments of The True Cross' to rebuild 'The Ark' (ie. all were fake). This may be why he doesn't suffer greatly for his crime (unless you count the valuable lesson he learns in the next video).
I think i prefer the blunt evilness of connor the seducer in comparison to the fake christianness of king Hektor who let his son die to preserve his image
Hektor, a fake Christian? It is the quintessence of Christianism what he is doing lol
"I'm not going to war again." Press X to doubt.
Y
Ends the episode discussing plans to trash England. Again.
You enter the King's seclusion chamber, hat in hand, ready to ask your Liege for release from his army to join a holy order. You've brought your wife along. You scarcely have time to outline what you want when your wife steps forward to help plead your case, to which your Liege cries out "Oh blimey, you have a terrifying wife. Who even the hell are you? You must be one of my Commanders. Right, your wife is terrifying. Yeah, just go, go with my blessing, just take your wife with you. Blimey heck."
07.53 - retinue of 617 troops. 07.56 - no retinue on the map. Jon, what did you just do?
Yep it would seem that he disbanded his retinue, good catch.
Jon I'm amazed at how much restraint you're showing when the option "plot to kill" is so readily available...
Even money he just keeps forgetting about it.
It hasn't worked out so great for him in the past, plus his intrigue is terrible.
No just just tends to forget for about a dozen episodes at a time that certain mechanics exist.
Wonder if you've yet noticed the irony in that England gave the Templars a castle in Middlesex, now the templars are attacking england from said castle xD
Loving this series more than I thought I would when it started. In fact even though each episode is 90 min long if not more it goes too quick.
Only series on youtube I actually follow
Doubt it. Seriously, how is this the only thing you watch?
@@DZ-1987 Because I do other shit than watch youtube all day lol
Then why would you pick a series were every episode is about an hour or so?
If i didn't have all that time (i don't by the way) i'd usually be watching something 20 or 10 minute's long. Or just play a game. Unless its Saturday which is today in my side of the world.
Because I like watching this series. I don't understand why it's hard to believe that I don't follow another series on youtube. I'm not saying I never go to youtube outside of this to search something up or anything.
Who doesn't? But its a question of WHY? You say you don't got time yet you're willing to spend an hour or so watching a blind fool run a kingdom that originated off the southern corner of England.
wait on the plan for England. wait for a kid of your dynasty to be born and then press the claim on England for that kid. you don`t want to make the same mistake you did with Scotland
Grabbing the cross and running...surely one of 10 best theft ideas ever! :D
Defensive pacts are menancing only when you have a certain percentage of threat (just read the tooltip to know more), at 9% they are only if you attack someone in the pact
“Well, colour me distinctly flipping underwhelmed!”
Best rant ever Jon! Your enthusiasm and commentary is unparalleled in this moral realm. 🤪😋
*I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT*
Crusader 2 Kings seems to be on a huge sale on Steam right now.
You know, if anyone was interested and hasn't got it yet.
Thanks for the info. I don't own it yet. Main game and all expansions cost a weeks worth of pay. Been waiting for the sale.
Thank you. Just bought it
Well there goes about a week of my life :P
I can't afford it still 😢
Jon, when you have Theology focus and some time of peace, it would be a shame not to use an option in the intrigue tab: Go For Pilgrimage. While not massively helpful, you can have some interesting events, get new helpful trait and, what is more important, going for pilgrimage to Rome fits the spectacularly holy King Hektor perfectly.
I'd like to see that. 😆
Since the Kaiser was excommunicated. Does that mean that it is now the "Not so holy Roman empire" :D
To be honest, even in most of it's history the HRE was rarely holy due to quarrels with the Pope. Plus they descended from Germanic tribes so they weren't really Roman in culture. And the idea if it being a true empire past the reign of Charlemagne is pretty laughable. Pretty much every part of the Holy Roman Empires name is arguable
@CircleWithSprinkles ain't holy, ain't Roman, and ain't an empire lol
I like to think that during the scuffle you got poked with the nail of the true cross and the infected wound is retribution from God.
King Hektor was secluded in his castle, watching people outside die of a terrible disease. He tried to distract himself by studying his family chronicles, but only found out that King Jon's line had ended, one of his most powerful vassals was a cannibal and the long-planned taking over Scotland most likely would not succeed. I'd say the fact he lost faith in humanity is an understandable thing.
"Hasn't been around for a while, I think I've been doing quite well!"
Everyone who has ever played CK2: *Screaming intensifies
Jon, under agnatic-cognatic inherritence women only inherit if there is no male heir.
The way that works is kind of twisted in elective and tanistry, women can win the vote and inherit normally, it's just that vassals will strongly avoid voting for women (they'll rather vote for male children)
But since Jon currently holds half of the votes in De Jure Cornwall, any woman he nominates will inherit as usual. The only problem is that a woman on the throne will mean open season for weak claim pushing.
Good thing i chose Primogeniture. As stupid and risky as that sounds.
OK, my Heir turned out to be gay but its just something i have to deal with. Damn you Crisdesimus. I gave you such a cool name as well!
What am i doing? Why am i adding all this bullcrap that no one cares about? Because its fun to vent with buttons sometimes.
Thank u Jon, because no matter how stressed i am your voice alone brings me peace
How; Jon? How are you doing this? Ive been watching lets plays for years; while working; for sleep; while eating; whilst taking shits; pretty much at all times; but never has a series managed to keep my eyes on screen and captivate me in such a relentless manner like this one. I cant work; I cant draw; I cant play games on the side. I must watch.
Seriously; its so intriguing; so funny; so genuine.
And its also funny because CK2 isnt at all an action packed; visually intensive and entertaining game. Its just a map; some numbers and strings; and your delivery.
Cant get enough; keep up the good work; man. Im in love with this series.
Here I am 3 years later wondering if John ever realized that he couldn't siege the last holding of London because it was owned by the Templars, and that England were seiging the templar holding because they are at war
He actually notices that somewhere in the last 3rd of this episode.
1:10:40 I almost cried when the kid knocked on the door. ... Stupid emotions. This ... this series is awesome.
As you are often butting up against demesne limit: don't forget you can increase centralisation in the government/laws tab, which increases your demesne limit at the cost of vassal limit (how many direct vassals you are allowed), but considering the fact vassal limit is currently 3/18 that isn't much of a cost.
In fact you should probable try to pass/improve more laws and stuff especially as you currently have a relatively loyal council.
19:28 "Let's just make sure everyone's married that needs to be."
MARGARET
"Now, this side of the family..."
Ya know Jon... if you actually LOOKED AT THE CASTLE IN LONDON IT WOULD TELL YOU THAT IT IS OWNED BY THE TEMPLARS!
Edit:OMG HE FINALLY LOOKED
*Abandons baby to die* -- 2 seconds later... "GOD HAS SHOWN ME THE LIGHT!"
"Who are you? Blimey you have a terrifying wife!"
Jon showing Boris Johnson/Prince Philip levels of diplomacy there!
It's 2020 now, legend has it, that John still hasn't looked at the "relations" tab to see who are the lovers...
As a Classics major in college I am fully enjoying the little classics hints and jokes
Hey Jon a quick quality of life gameplay comment. In the future if you find yourself with a baron level holding and you can't be bothered to find someone to give to, you can click on the holding and on the same screen where you build in the holding, there's a button that will create a new guy of your culture to take the holding. Its a nice time saver after a holy war or crusade.
A good man who murdered someone over a piece of wood, but a good man nonetheless!
A piece of metal. Any wood which came with it is incidental.
Plus, that piece of metal might still have some God-blood on it.
Slightly disappointed Jon hasn't married any horses yet.
No no no, he needs to appoint them to the Council!
@@fredhenry101 I have seen this mentioned a few times lately on other videos what am I missing?
I have no idea about marrying a horse, but the Roman Emperor Caligula appointed a horse to the Senate once, so that was my reference
fredhenry101 when your king/queen is mad there is an event where he/she appoints his/her horse to the counceil. I don't know if marriage is possible because my horse died after a month on the counceil and it didnt come to my mind to try to fuck it
CK2 actually has a reference to Caligula and his horse. If you're a lunatic there's an event where you appoint a horse as chancellor (or court physician) and the horse becomes a character in your court.
The horse can't be married, seduced or given land though. Through some bishopric nomination shenanigans you can get the horse a bishopric, where he'll start spawning horse culture characters that can be married and landed.
CK2: A.K.A. "Okay if not spectacular" Simulator
And of course the first act of King Hector the Pious And Virtuous is to squeeze some money out of the Pope. You have truly mastered CK2 at this point!
Jon upgrade your hospital!
Best series ever
I feel like Cornwall has become Nilfgaard.
I like the idea that Hektor is parading around as a reformed, holy man of faith, when he’s actually just driven by self-interest. He’ll join a holy order because it benefits him, and he’ll also murder a fellow member of the order if the need arises. A rather pragmatic leader, a step up from the pure chaos of King Connor.
I’ve been waiting for this for dayssss ever since he messed up Mercia and England in the last episode 😂😂
I literally dropped my spoon when I Noticed the king of france had a weak claim on cornwall and brittany!
Jon just destroyed that guy's wife
King Hektor: going hardcore religious and penitent to try to make up for killing his father.
"Hmm let's see what's new in the subscription feed... CK2 posted 19 seconds ago Holy Fuck why wasn't I notified sooner!?"
I do prefer these "no war" episodes. its nice to see gold going to something other than boats for a change
Jon in Crusader Kings: No your not allowed to marry my 13 year old daughter, that's weird!
Jon in Rome: Total War: Yes you can marry that 13 year old girl, no problem.
Best series!
love that late development. can't wait for next ep.
Jon keep checking the small counties/dutchies/kingdoms, sometimes you can declare war on them to force vassalization, though it does cost you 1000 prestige.
I made that mistake during my first several runs too.
To fight for another persons claim only to change the person on a foreign throne.
Reminder: when you get a second and more kingdoms, you have to change the succession laws so all your kingdoms succeed the same way.
Jon! Think about it! When has a person with that type of facial hair ever been anywhere near a good person?!
From my travel to London this last week I learned things being on fire is nothing unusual at least in the capital.
Since you're doing the whole religious thing, you may want to look into the college of cardinals (on the religion tab, top left of the pope's portrait). If you get lucky, you could well end up with a pope who is loyal to you, and willing to grant you claims on territories you want (or even sanction a full, kingdom-level invasion of England for you). Really enjoying the series!
funny how he said the kingdom is prospering,while the actual king was literally turned into a figure head by its own concil
1:12:10 And immediately after Arpad joins the Templars, his wife dies.
Earl Meugan of Oriel's children wouldn't be of House Cerneu, but with tanistry it doesn't matter. You could just elect a Cerneu.
I'm two years late, but still.
That's ME!!
I LOL'd Hard.
Respect Jon
Your De Hautivilles vs mine, theyre cowering in the south of sicily hiding from the roman blob, yours are adventuring across africa in true norman fashion. William may have failed to take england but normans still kickin ass.
WooHoo, CK2, MATN. My evening just got good.
England isn't sieging itself, it's sieging the holding of a holy order. The sub holdings don't always belong to the owner of the top holding. That's why you couldn't siege the last holding when you were in that province in a previous episode, because it didn't belong to England and you weren't at war with the holy order.
On the theme of what Jon got wrong this episode, he seems to have forgotten that is does take a little longer than a few days for a baby to be born.
When the claiment is already a landed vassel of yours then they will also remain your vassel when you push the claim unless its a claim for an equill or higher title than your own.
I wonder how jon will deal with his traitorous council and regain his lost powers
It would be fun to be able to plot a "red wedding" and kill off all the disloyal vassals, in return for a major diplomacy malus ofcourse
in this episode: the results of a century and a half of inbreeding.
Such a cosmopolitan cornwall you have, celts of all kinds and then just loads of italians ;p
Finally Acknowledged the fact that the Knight Templars owned the small barony in England.
Jon, please look at the relations tab on your ruler.. It makes it so much simple to find out who is your lover, friend and foe.
"...turn around to find... oh dear."
Wow, Ohdear is part of this society too? Small realm!
Jessica Källberg LOL
‘Pen(z)ance is Mightier than the Sword’ would’ve been a much funnier title.
I would highly recommend solidifying scotland by making them your hair. Once its in your dynasty it doesn't matter if your successor has no hair. Because you will make an empire.
And you can always select the Hunting focus to find some Just For Men to restore your hair.
Jon, are you upgrading the other holdings in each county off screen? Each town, castle, and church has its own upgrade tree
It's not Sunday is it? What a treat!!! :)
If Jon wanted the Scotland Plan to work, he should have tried to murder Slow's widower as soon as his kinswoman died. If I remember correctly it even happened during Connor the Seducer's reign, so he had the intrigue level to make it work.
You should have given the crusader trait to all your commanders and potential heirs.
You should be able to pick war chest ambition, 4 years should be enough to start a war with nice merc nuke under your pillow. Also, when you were checking out that scottish matrilinear I was almost chanting "Cmon plot to kill her!".
I love this
He figured it out!
I just recently learned that Galicia in Northwest Spain is culturally Celtic, so that might be fun to expand the empire into
Was the terrible choice you mentioned on the patroncast the stealing of the cross?
Yes yes yes
just in case anyone doesn't have it yet, ck2 is currently 75% on steam, with all the DLC 50% off!
What mod/dlc allows you to change the names of your kingdom? I've created the kingdom of wales but it always gets named kembre instead. They never become the actual name they say they are going be.
The customisation pack dlc allows you to rename all duchies and above. It's fairly cheap too. I think you can buy it right now for £2.00
Names change depending on culture
It's more authentic but it can be confusing
Cymru is what Welshmen call their country, Wales being the English name.
Kembre is the Breton name.
That's good to know. It's always confusing when it says it's gonna create so and so title but it names it something else.
I wonder when Jon will realize that the current character's lover is , in fact, the daughter of Stronglass. Truly Connor's dark influence will live on in the Kingdom.
Jon, at 4:40 you missed a bit on the tool tip I believe. If the king of France dies then his claims go away.
48:45 "Died of Depression" Funny way of saying suicide. Blimey!
Last time I was this early, King Jon didn't have the sir-name of fat.
Too soon
Wounded: This character has been seriously injured...
Hektor: "It was just a minor scratch."
Here's hoping Hektor doesn't get into a fight with the King of England 1v1 or he might be losing a few limbs...
Tis but a scratch
Cornwall, the hapsburgs of the isles... if only Cadoc had seen us now.
He'd probably be naked howling at the moon
It's been a very long while since i first watched this awesome series so i can't remember how it pans out, but the reason the King of England wanted to marry your courtier Ida was because she had a claim on the kingdom of Denmark. So he was obviously aiming to press that and increase his power. Your plans for Maredudd and the queen of Denmark may all be in vain. Moral of the story: when suitors come a-calling, check their ulterior motives, and don't allow them to take important claimants away! You should have married Ida to someone in your own family and pressed her claim as there was a female ruler in Denmark.
Also if you have no court tutor then you are the default educator for everyone whether you have chosen to educate them or not, that's why Stronglass came with you to the holy order place. If you had a court tutor then these events would only happen to your wards. I think.
So I have found for 3 episodes or about he has believed that the countess of Desmond is the duchess of Mumu. If you need to know which is which look to see if there's a ring a round the portrait, small blue ribbons around a iron ring is count level. Dukes have a silver ring with blue gems all around it. King has a gold ring with blue ribbon and Emperor has a gold ring with a blue ribbon and purple gems. This is only true for feudal levels. Does he not see that the liege is not him but the duchess.
retract everything here he figured it out on his own.
The game is on sale on Steam, which dlcs and such should I buy?
id deffo smash out castle fortifications in all your holdings in devon as its your gate to your capital and england will tend to want to carpet siege devon down before it moves on cornwall itself.