As many of you have already noticed, I have spelt AMD EPYC incorrectly in the main table (eg at 1:28 I have it listed as "EYPC" rather than "EPYC"). And I have it both right and wrong on the same graphic at 8:38. But the thumbnail is right! :) My apologies for this -- I so often accidentally transpose two letters and do not notice. So I am mad at myself today. :(
This was the much-overlooked topic for anyone to understand when purchasing different versions. Thank you for sharing in-depth knowledge on two different brands.
I’ve seen your older videos for key information and explanations many times, but since they were all from around the 2010 era, I didn’t expect this channel to still be active. Amazing! I suppose I should sub :)
This video on modern CPUs in 2021 is delivered by the inimitable Christopher Barnatt in the clear and well-paced way that he always does. All of the facts given here are known well to me, and knew in advance of watching the video that this would likely be so; nevertheless, I watched it anyway simply for the pleasure of seeing this excellent presentation. BRAVO!
I have this same problem... I already know most of the material, but I watch anyway, because if nothing else Chris will organize those facts in a clear and easy-to-remember fashion. Besides, he's so pleasant to watch! Occurs to me that when he was teaching, truancy from his classes was not an issue. :D
This video was very helpful in understanding the naming of CPU's. I wasn't able to understand the explanation in the previous videos i watched but this was very helpful. Clear, concise and straight to the point. Thank you.
Thank you for your sound explanations in understandable language, giving basic overviews over technology components. I appreciate that greatly and will point people to your videos who want to have understandable explanations.
@@ypey1 Any haircut you care to mention is "old fashioned". People have been cutting and styling their hair for millennia, and there are only so many basic styles... it has all been done before. 😁
Very well explained. I am an ex computer engineer. Started servicing computers in 1971. The CPU speed then of the Big Iron was 2MHz. No Cache, 64KB memory, 10MB Hard Disk. They also had Printers and Magnetic Tape Units. How things have changed. However what annoys me to day is the change in terminology used, for operations that virtually the same but now have different names. For example Subroutines are now called Functions. Threads is an interesting name, we used to call it Multi-programming. Threads is however a better name. I try not to stay stuck in the past.
Thanks for this, processors these days seem to come out like machine gun bullets, and getting to grips with all the variations and permutations, can be quite a perplexing task. Thanks for the lucid elaboration.
Sir, please upload content everyday. It pains me to see quality content being so undervalued. Your videos might be shown in schools and all but to see only 740k subs is really sad. Your content definitely deserves more value. 9+ years and still this much is really sad.
The naming and classification of these chips does seem to be getting more complicated than it was fifteen or twenty years ago. Thanks for the up to date information Chris. 👍
I remember when Intel were producing 386 and 486 chips, either SX or DX for integer or floating point, and only half a dozen clock speeds. It was all fairly obvious. When the Pentium came out, it was nice and simple for while. It all got confusing when AMD, Cyrix and others started adding extra features and developed hybrid architectures with complicated naming conventions. 🙁
"Cache will require a whole video of its own." Yup, please. Cycles latency vs hit/miss/level are scary and tend to make things a lot slower than those gHz clock speeds.
This is by far, by faaaaaar, the best introductory explanation regarding the Intel and AMD CPU lines. Thank you sir! You have absolutely earned yourself a subscriber in me.
Wow 37 seconds ago! Who needs notifications when you spend all your time on this platform. Nothing better than an explaining computers video on a sunny Sunday afternoon.
Thank you, I had often wondered about the differences between chip and manufactures. I've learned more about my own computers CPU in the last 12 minutes than I ever understood since I purchased it 3-years ago. Again thank you, and have a Happy Easter this day.... ^~^
Very clear and concise explanation-- this video has survived the test of three years in a tumultuous market. You would not be surprised how difficult it can be for buyers to obtain the same broad explanation from either the Intel or AMD website. * A small suggestion-- replace the somewhat awkward, "retro" introduction/signature theme with a smoother, more modern theme. It need not be lengthy, but only a brief (voice-less and beat-less) signature. That would transform viewer expectations from the beginning.
Thanks a lot, Chris. This is the video I asked for the other day. It's even more complex than I imagined, but as always you made it simple and easy to understand. There are even some CPU lines I didn't know to exist. Thanks again. You are the best.
Very informative. My eyes glaze over when LTT or Jayztwocents rattle off cpu names and talk as if I’m supposed to understand the differences. Thankyou for explaining !
Excellent! Perhaps you might add the overarching detail that these all use the same instruction set, pioneered by Intel in the 1980s. That is in contrast to RISC and ARM instruction sets.
Thanks for that. I was thinking about building a new PC for myself but think it might be safer to just buy an off the shelf model. At least now I'll know what the specs mean. By the way there's a typo at 9:00 - EYPC instead of EPYC. It caught my eye as I was wondering why it was pronounced "epic". Oh, also on slide at 9:14
there's something to be said for that, at least you know everything will fit. AMD's lineup is... slightly simpler now because most of the ones sold under 'Athalon' or 'Ryzen' work in the same motherboard, but even still.
So, that is why I was so confused! Thank you so much for this video. I do hope that a video on cache management is fairly high up in your future plans.
It thrills me to see AMD making some really superb chips again. Back in the '90s I owned several AMD-equipped computers -- they were cheaper than Intel's offerings and performed every bit as well. I bought my first AMD chip when the 80486 CPU was the most popular one -- AMD sold a 486 chip that was faster and cheaper than anything you could get from Intel at the time. And I kept on buying AMD chips throughout the '90s, as they were always less expensive than their Intel equivalents, and performed at least equally, and in many cases better than their Intel equivalents. Then they sort of lost their edge, and weren't very competitive for awhile. And now they're back in the game and forcing Intel to innovate again! Competition always makes products better for the end consumer, and it's high time we had some good competition in the CPU arena. Intel has been dominating for far too long now. Very happy to see AMD back in the game!
Christopher Barnatt, I thank you for another illustrious episode. I am already subscribed to your channel. I have taken the microprocessor and microcomputer technology for granted.
2:04 Clock speed isn't really a good metric when comparing CPUs, my 12yo Core 2 Quad Q9650 runs at 3GHz, but it's an order of magnitude slower than even an entry level 4-core Ryzen would be at the same clock speed. Comparing clock speed is like comparing how fast your car tires can rotate without taking tire diameter (Instructions per clock) into account. Clock speed is only meaningful within the same architecture.
I think when you factor in all the improvements, more threads per core, more cache, faster ram, faster graphics cards, better storage speeds, multi threading, etc etc, you'll find the clock speed is still quite telling.... Only you're doubling and quadrupling and multiplying speeds and so the two CPU don't stand on their own merit. My two cents
Even though I know most of this information, I love watching these. I always find something new or something I didn't know before hand. Excellent video as always, you make it very easy to follow any type of person who wants to learn or who thinks they know it all. Congratulations on the 750K subs, here's to 1Million....Cheers!
HI, useful info. Be interested in your thoughts on the future of x86 what with the rise of apple M1, Arm etc I read somewhere that the fastest supercomputer in the world is now an ARM powered system.
This is quite a "dry" subject but the invaluable advice is quite close to the end where certain AMD processors require a dedicated graphics card as no video signal is otherwise generated - this is particularly pertinent to those who may choose to build their own desktop.
Christopher I wish this information was available long ago. But it is harder to find suitable information on Intel and AMD CPU chips without having to reading a lot of information. Keep up the good work.
@Chris, thanks for another superb video! This video will definitely help me decide which CPU to buy for my upgrade. In particular, the part about CPU Suffix Codes were really helpful! And what goes with the 67 dislikes? Bots? I'm also really surprised you don't have a million subbscribers already, because you''e an awesome repository of practical and useful info! May God bless you mate for taking the time and making the effort to share your excellent knowledge!
1. Core m3 has been re-branded into Core i3 since 10th gen. 2. Celerons and Pentiums do have suffixes like T and U. 3. Atoms are end of life except for embedded models. 4. There is also Threadripper Pro. 5. There is also low end AMD APU's that have no branding at all (not Athlon, not Ryzen). Eg. AMD 3020e.
LOL.... me, I've been burned enough times by poor performance and weird bugs that... I'll use an AMD if it falls on my head, but I'll only pay for an Intel. There, let the CPU Wars begin!
As many of you have already noticed, I have spelt AMD EPYC incorrectly in the main table (eg at 1:28 I have it listed as "EYPC" rather than "EPYC"). And I have it both right and wrong on the same graphic at 8:38. But the thumbnail is right! :) My apologies for this -- I so often accidentally transpose two letters and do not notice. So I am mad at myself today. :(
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We forgive you! :)
Mistakes happen to the best of us; don't beat yourself up over it.
Just strive to do better next time :)
No worries. Excellent informative video as always. Thanks Chris.
Relax
Two Years of professional IT Training have not been enough to shed a reasonable light on this topic. You have done so in under 13 minutes.Thumbs up!
Yeah, guy's GREAT at this 👍👍 !
There is a post on Reddit with 6k upvotes that explain this whole thing really quick
Wow you're nearly at ¾ million subs, and every one deserved. Onwards to 1m and beyond!
Thanks. :)
Spot on 750K right now
@@ExplainingComputers No problem, mate!
Finally, an explanation of the secret code chip makers use to name their specific chip models. Thank you!
This was the much-overlooked topic for anyone to understand when purchasing different versions. Thank you for sharing in-depth knowledge on two different brands.
I always appreciate how consistent and approachable these videos are.
Me so happy. Another video. Thank you for making these videos every Sunday. It makes my Sunday complete.
I'm so glad!
Every IT teacher could open your channel, set the videos on auto play and students wouldn't miss out on anything. Maybe learn even more! Amazing job!
I’ve seen your older videos for key information and explanations many times, but since they were all from around the 2010 era, I didn’t expect this channel to still be active. Amazing!
I suppose I should sub :)
Do it!
This video on modern CPUs in 2021 is delivered by the inimitable Christopher Barnatt in the clear and well-paced way that he always does. All of the facts given here are known well to me, and knew in advance of watching the video that this would likely be so; nevertheless, I watched it anyway simply for the pleasure of seeing this excellent presentation. BRAVO!
I have this same problem... I already know most of the material, but I watch anyway, because if nothing else Chris will organize those facts in a clear and easy-to-remember fashion. Besides, he's so pleasant to watch!
Occurs to me that when he was teaching, truancy from his classes was not an issue. :D
@@Reziac Nice comment, especially the point about truancy!
Your explanation of the product codes was especially interesting! Thank you!
This video was very helpful in understanding the naming of CPU's. I wasn't able to understand the explanation in the previous videos i watched but this was very helpful. Clear, concise and straight to the point. Thank you.
Happy Easter everyone. Chris, thank you for this video. Very timey and gives us a n overview on all types of CPUs. Great stuff. Enjoy your day!
Finally found video that explains almost every detail about CPU. Extremely useful 👍
Thank you!
The most important video; on a nice, sunny Sunday.
I now want some tea while watching this :)
"sunny Sunday"
I can tell you don't live in the UK 🥲
@@RexGalilae Sorry about that, mate :)
At least I drink perfectly balanced tea with no exploits x)
lol I know what you mean. ?? Relaxed a bit more after 3 replays for me. : } Cheers!
Love the foundational computer lessons like this regularly thrown into the mix of this channel. And explained clearly per usual.
Finally explained.. and you’re the best explainer, thanks
Thank you for your sound explanations in understandable language, giving basic overviews over technology components. I appreciate that greatly and will point people to your videos who want to have understandable explanations.
Another excellent video! You always present the information in such an easy to understand format!
Thank you ExplainingComputers! Awesome and informative video as always!
This guy really likes computers he should teach us about them
i know right?!
He should be on youtube!
@@id104335409 When he does, he should explain the difference between intel and amd
Hell yeah, i wouldn’t even mind if he were to have a monotone voice or old fashioned hair cut...
@@ypey1 Any haircut you care to mention is "old fashioned". People have been cutting and styling their hair for millennia, and there are only so many basic styles... it has all been done before. 😁
This is probably the most compact explanation I found by a quick search. Good job!
Very well explained. I am an ex computer engineer. Started servicing computers in 1971. The CPU speed then of the Big Iron was 2MHz. No Cache, 64KB memory, 10MB Hard Disk. They also had Printers and Magnetic Tape Units. How things have changed. However what annoys me to day is the change in terminology used, for operations that virtually the same but now have different names. For example Subroutines are now called Functions. Threads is an interesting name, we used to call it Multi-programming. Threads is however a better name. I try not to stay stuck in the past.
Congratulations on 750K subscribers Chris, well deserved, great content as always.
Ah, I had missed the milestone! :) Thanks.
Thanks for the information. Looking forward to your next video!
Greetings Perry. :)
Easily the best breakdown of CPU/GPU families that I've found on TH-cam... and all under 13 min!
Thanks for this, processors these days seem to come out like machine gun bullets, and getting to grips with all the variations and permutations, can be quite a perplexing task.
Thanks for the lucid elaboration.
Sir, please upload content everyday. It pains me to see quality content being so undervalued. Your videos might be shown in schools and all but to see only 740k subs is really sad. Your content definitely deserves more value. 9+ years and still this much is really sad.
it takes a lot of work to make quality content, that's why he only uploads once a week. If he did it every day, the quality would go down.
@@DFX2KX yeah but it deserves some value. Effort without appreciation is so sad
The naming and classification of these chips does seem to be getting more complicated than it was fifteen or twenty years ago. Thanks for the up to date information Chris. 👍
I remember when Intel were producing 386 and 486 chips, either SX or DX for integer or floating point, and only half a dozen clock speeds. It was all fairly obvious. When the Pentium came out, it was nice and simple for while. It all got confusing when AMD, Cyrix and others started adding extra features and developed hybrid architectures with complicated naming conventions. 🙁
It is the first time in 20 years I get such a nice CPU overview. Thanks a lot. Great job.
Helping the algorithm to pick up your video
Thanks.
Taking my comptia A+ and net+ and enrolled in IT and computer engineering classes at community college your channel has helped me so much
Great to hear. Good luck with your classes.
"Cache will require a whole video of its own." Yup, please. Cycles latency vs hit/miss/level are scary and tend to make things a lot slower than those gHz clock speeds.
Where did you get that quote from?
Another excellent video which I wish I'd had a while ago when trying to work out the differences between the PCs on offer. Thanks yet again.
This has been such a treat to watch thank you kindly!
This is by far, by faaaaaar, the best introductory explanation regarding the Intel and AMD CPU lines. Thank you sir! You have absolutely earned yourself a subscriber in me.
Thanks, and welcome aboard. :)
Wow 37 seconds ago! Who needs notifications when you spend all your time on this platform.
Nothing better than an explaining computers video on a sunny Sunday afternoon.
Thank you, I had often wondered about the differences between chip and manufactures. I've learned more about my own computers CPU in the last 12 minutes than I ever understood since I purchased it 3-years ago. Again thank you, and have a Happy Easter this day.... ^~^
Eyeopening as always , thanks Chris , stay safe
Man I love your videos on computers , Very detailed and elaborated. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, will do!
That's a highly detailed video about CPUs, sir. Please make a video about GPUs.
Fabulous!, exactly the kind of basic info I was looking for, as I'm someone with no specific computer/electronics training, just an interested user.
Just as I am about to get myself an ARM Raspberry Pi, you make this. Bravo, Mr. Barnatt 💪😅
Awesome.... No one explains things better than Chris and this channel! Nicely done!
I was waiting for this.
Excellent! :)
🥉
Very clear and concise explanation-- this video has survived the test of three years in a tumultuous market.
You would not be surprised how difficult it can be for buyers to obtain the same broad explanation from either the Intel or AMD website.
* A small suggestion-- replace the somewhat awkward, "retro" introduction/signature theme with a smoother, more modern theme. It need not be lengthy, but only a brief (voice-less and beat-less) signature. That would transform viewer expectations from the beginning.
Please make a video telling us about caches. That would make a nice followup for this one.
Yes, I agree. A cache video is a good idea. :)
I just watched your video on the AArgon M2 Case. You always do such a nice job. Thanks.
I remember when processor speed was measured in MHz.
Not that long ago either . . .
And in single digits!
Zilog Z80A at 3,5 Mhz. God I'm getting old....
My first computer was 200 MHz, 2.1GB hd, 16 MB RAM LOL 😂!!! Win 95
Mine was 4.77 MHz with 256k of RAM!
Thanks a lot, Chris. This is the video I asked for the other day.
It's even more complex than I imagined, but as always you made it simple and easy to understand. There are even some CPU lines I didn't know to exist.
Thanks again. You are the best.
Thanks for doing such great Videos!
I just started an online class for I.T support and needed some extra knowledge on CPU's. Thanks for the free vids man !!!
SUBCRIBED !!!!
Welcome aboard -- and good luck with you class.
@@ExplainingComputers
Thanks man.!!
Very informative. My eyes glaze over when LTT or Jayztwocents rattle off cpu names and talk as if I’m supposed to understand the differences. Thankyou for explaining !
Very informative! This channel has become my Sunday tradition. Happy Easter everyone!
My man's face is like 3D rendered on a pc , he couldn't look more techie , even if he tried. Thanks for the video.
Dude, this stuff has never made till today. Thanks
Excellent! Perhaps you might add the overarching detail that these all use the same instruction set, pioneered by Intel in the 1980s. That is in contrast to RISC and ARM instruction sets.
Thank you for the eddumacation(education) on the cpu's, as always I enjoy watchin your channel, keep up the great work.
Thanks, will do!
Could you also make video about how CPUs work on the inside, and about CPU socket types and their advantages and disadvantages?
I have a video called "How CPUs work" on my list! :)
Very informative. First rate information. Thanks so much. 🥇🏆
Thanks for that. I was thinking about building a new PC for myself but think it might be safer to just buy an off the shelf model. At least now I'll know what the specs mean.
By the way there's a typo at 9:00 - EYPC instead of EPYC. It caught my eye as I was wondering why it was pronounced "epic". Oh, also on slide at 9:14
there's something to be said for that, at least you know everything will fit. AMD's lineup is... slightly simpler now because most of the ones sold under 'Athalon' or 'Ryzen' work in the same motherboard, but even still.
Thank you Chris, for this awesome video that makes life easier 😀😀😀
The Intel Core Blimey is only available in the UK.
:)
In Australia, too.
🤔🤔🤔😮😄👍😉👍
So, that is why I was so confused! Thank you so much for this video. I do hope that a video on cache management is fairly high up in your future plans.
It thrills me to see AMD making some really superb chips again. Back in the '90s I owned several AMD-equipped computers -- they were cheaper than Intel's offerings and performed every bit as well. I bought my first AMD chip when the 80486 CPU was the most popular one -- AMD sold a 486 chip that was faster and cheaper than anything you could get from Intel at the time. And I kept on buying AMD chips throughout the '90s, as they were always less expensive than their Intel equivalents, and performed at least equally, and in many cases better than their Intel equivalents.
Then they sort of lost their edge, and weren't very competitive for awhile. And now they're back in the game and forcing Intel to innovate again! Competition always makes products better for the end consumer, and it's high time we had some good competition in the CPU arena. Intel has been dominating for far too long now. Very happy to see AMD back in the game!
Just wanted to chime in and agree with all your points, as a former AMD K5 owner (Socket 7).
Christopher Barnatt, I thank you for another illustrious episode. I am already subscribed to your channel. I have taken the microprocessor and microcomputer technology for granted.
Thanks for watching! :)
@@ExplainingComputers You are welcome. I bid you "Happy Keyboarding."
@@ExplainingComputers You are welcome. I look forward to watching this episode again. Happy Keyboarding!
Happy Easter, Christopher.
And to you Stephen. :)
These videos are always very helpful and clearly explained, keep up the good work!
2:04 Clock speed isn't really a good metric when comparing CPUs, my 12yo Core 2 Quad Q9650 runs at 3GHz, but it's an order of magnitude slower than even an entry level 4-core Ryzen would be at the same clock speed. Comparing clock speed is like comparing how fast your car tires can rotate without taking tire diameter (Instructions per clock) into account. Clock speed is only meaningful within the same architecture.
Interesting thanks for sharing
I think when you factor in all the improvements, more threads per core, more cache, faster ram, faster graphics cards, better storage speeds, multi threading, etc etc, you'll find the clock speed is still quite telling.... Only you're doubling and quadrupling and multiplying speeds and so the two CPU don't stand on their own merit. My two cents
Damn... Remember back when flexing on folks about your "quad core" Intel build! Oh to have a time machine!
Even though I know most of this information, I love watching these. I always find something new or something I didn't know before hand. Excellent video as always, you make it very easy to follow any type of person who wants to learn or who thinks they know it all. Congratulations on the 750K subs, here's to 1Million....Cheers!
HI, useful info. Be interested in your thoughts on the future of x86 what with the rise of apple M1, Arm etc I read somewhere that the fastest supercomputer in the world is now an ARM powered system.
Thanks for the information regarding the suffix of the processor models
This is quite a "dry" subject but the invaluable advice is quite close to the end where certain AMD processors require a dedicated graphics card as no video signal is otherwise generated - this is particularly pertinent to those who may choose to build their own desktop.
Once again - you've produced a hugely informative, and much needed video. So once again - thank you!
Just started the video and got an advert for ARM... :D
Cool!
@@ExplainingComputers They were obviously feeling left out :)
End piece on pricing very well thought out & carefully phrased.
EPYC Chris, not EYPC.
Once again it appears I have transposed two letters and not noticed. At least the thumbnail is right.
@@ExplainingComputers we're humans , don't worry
@@ExplainingComputers all is well, the content is always worth it. Thanks again for a wonderful video.
Christopher I wish this information was available long ago. But it is harder to find suitable information on Intel and AMD CPU chips without having to reading a lot of information. Keep up the good work.
I wonder how Intel's hyper threading compares to actual double core count
Thank you for another excellent and thorough explanation of what is available. It is easy to lose track with so many CPU models around.
Funny that we still call them "micro" processors. They should be called nano processors 😂
Or just drop that prefix altogether.
Many thanks for this comprehensive and enlightening video on the often confusing world of microprocessors!
Love you and your voice
Always a pleasure to watch and learn from, thank you and kind regards.
You'd missed out the A-series on the AMD side
@Chris, thanks for another superb video! This video will definitely help me decide which CPU to buy for my upgrade.
In particular, the part about CPU Suffix Codes were really helpful!
And what goes with the 67 dislikes? Bots?
I'm also really surprised you don't have a million subbscribers already, because you''e an awesome repository of practical and useful info!
May God bless you mate for taking the time and making the effort to share your excellent knowledge!
7:50 He's rhyming so well.
This video so good I would actually pay to share this to people
1. Core m3 has been re-branded into Core i3 since 10th gen.
2. Celerons and Pentiums do have suffixes like T and U.
3. Atoms are end of life except for embedded models.
4. There is also Threadripper Pro.
5. There is also low end AMD APU's that have no branding at all (not Athlon, not Ryzen). Eg. AMD 3020e.
ive gotten behind on my knowledge of this kind of stuff. ty so much!
What happened to your series on upgrading an old computer?
Surely this is a precursor to that video. How can you choose a new motherboard if you don't know about CPUs?
Yes, a precursor indeed. The 4th and 5th videos in the updaring an old PC series post on April 18th and 25th.
Thanks for the informative video. We have come a long way from the I4004. Happy Easter. Best wishes.
Wow! A very, very long way . . .
1:22
8:38
misspelled EPYC as EYPC
I know, sorry about that. I actually have it right and wrong on the screen at 8:38. :)
@@ExplainingComputers Keeps the variety high, so we can't get bored. :D
Excellent explaining there Chris, I actually learned something I didn't know, thanks.
Looks Like I am not late this time!!!
Yes, you are an early bird today!
@@ExplainingComputers Thanks!!!
Thanks so much. Before watching this, I was confused thinking that the Brand Modifier was the number of cores. This video helped alot
Very informative. I only understand low-level language.
11001100 11110011 11011001
(I made it up don't look for meaning)..Excuse high level language.
@@martinda7446 lol
All these cpu families and models can be hard to remember. This video really makes it clear for me. Thanks!
Here before the comments become a war zone about AMD being better than Intel and vice versa..
*grabs popcorn*
:)
I think i am the aggressor
LOL.... me, I've been burned enough times by poor performance and weird bugs that... I'll use an AMD if it falls on my head, but I'll only pay for an Intel.
There, let the CPU Wars begin!
@@Reziac quite obviously Intel is only running on brand recognition and boomer cred nowadays.
Great. Finally a real overview. Thanks for the Good work!