I don't think there are any issues with the rules. Out of 30 Octagon games there was only a single stalemate like this, which only makes it's better, because sometimes you get weird games, but not too often to bother.
Exactly. There were plenty of 30 minute games. More action packed, mebbe, but nothing of note or interest happened in most of those games. These long shenanigan games are the most fun to watch.
Bro this one match is longer then The Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring Extended Edition on Blu-Ray. Stop making matches on maps with extreme resource saturation like this.
To be honest, the most suprise for me was the improvement faye made during this tournament. The first few games she was one of the players who got picked out early or who tried going for a kill but failed and now the last few games was almost perfectly played. Huge improvement. Next OO she will be one of the top player no doubt
Idk Faye has always been dominant, especially during OOO1 where the rules were little and the games get too chaotic. I can remember Faye dominating that time 🤣🤣
This has been my most favourite octagon game. Because it was so long you become more invested and when you make the audience "feel" then it is an entertainment success. Great work!
3,5 HOURS?! Drongo have you uploaded the Lord of the Rings Extended Edition by any chance ?!?! Can't wait to watch ! This is where commentating gets tough, to keep talking and keep his audience engaged for 3,5 HOURS ! Drongo the goat, honestly thanks for these games ❤
That was an an absolutely epic game to watch start to finish. Literally took faye bleeding Dyukusi of every last resource he had to break the stalemate
I think stone played a role in prolonging this game just take a look at all these stone walls and keeps what do you expect, they don’t need rules to time or shorten the game if they are playing in a normal map i think increasing the rules will ruin the game
What a game, Wam calling Aveley out for not being able to kill him in game chat and Aveley responding very nicely, Faye Chan lasting and getting the snipe of the series, taking out Dyukusi and lasting till the end, Drongo acting like a drunken Drongo after a night out at the cas.
Faye made me cringe doing horsemen/knights for 3 hours… But it was a good game, i love how the map look after a long game: barren, with ruins everywhere.
I would love to see a CIV point total from this series. Using the same scoring format just for the individual civs. Delhi probably only has 1 or 2 points, seemed like an auto loss in FFA.
I would suggest the following way to avoid stalemate: Set a time limit, like 2hr. Once the time is up, whoever has a wonder or all sarect sites that is closest to the countdown limit wins the game. Which means if you build a wonder 2min before the time limit, you just need to hold it for 2 min. If no one has a wonder at the time limit, then the one holding the most sarect sites win. If it is still a draw, then the one with most sarect sites and relics win.
bruuuuh, just finished watching this and have to say: what a beautiful masterpiece! Sad that faye didn't made to the finals but surely I will be cheering for her in the next OO again thanks drongo for this beautiful content, loving every second of watch on this!
Honestly i find this more fun and interesting than 20 minute games, where one player gets a big mass early and just rolls over other players with no army
Idea for a solution: After a certain time limit, it is not allowed to repair or build any more more walls, keeps or emplacements (but they don't have to destroy the ones they already have or anything). Easy to implement, fair for all civs, makes turtling unsustainable since damage will accumulate, but still leaves room for the game to progress in a fairly normal and diverse way.
For the Next FFA tournament I think you need your own custom mod for balance. I think players need a way to defend easier in the early ages, seen too many plays with a B their civ just die cause HRE or knight/Armour spam. Even if they survive the Villager's idle time means that they loss economically, as once you have garrisoned your villagers you have lost, ur not producing any thing and there are just more knights coming. Maybe introduce a point system for civs picks.
Another way to prevent very long games is to give double points for anyone who wins with a wonder or sacred sites while 3 or more other players are in play.
Honestly Faye's snipe with Jean d'arc was fantastic to watch. None of the players played perfectly but the first 90 mins and the last thirty were brilliant. I skipped the rest lol. I would suggest to avoid the passive player, give one point for a wonder being built and held until ten minutes left. 2 points for getting to give minutes left. It's harder to manage but like core hesitating for so long about building it and averly not building until the very end really make it boring, so i think incentivizing building a wonder would make the game more fun.
After 90 minutes, if there is no kill in 15 mins, there is a timer set for win condition to be activated (SS/W) within 10 mins, else game ends stale mate (share the winner points perhaps for getting to that stage). 10 min timer resets after each further kill.
He went full stone... u never go full stone... It seems like the reason this went this way was the lack of gold, thus siege... This probably could have been better with a little more balance towards gold. U never go full stone...
Whys a long game an issue? To me these long games are the essence of FFA AOE I remember 10 hour AOE2 games and it's so epic Stop trying to control the games with rules! Also to stop teaming make it a mechanic in age4 they can research diplomacy
Wow. How long can you talk about people pausing the game? So they paused the game for like a split second. What is the big deal? Who here actually cares that they paused the game?!
I wouldn't like it with the extra Points for Wonder or something. I Like, the Actual Rules. Some long games ar pretty funy if there are only a few very long games.
I skipped from 1.5 hours until 4 became 3 and 2, did i miss much in the mean time? Did Faye build any other units? Did Averly use the best landmark for this of game? No. Lol. That said the temple of equality would have been so so so so good.
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3:12:11 had me in tears, it was so feral. I enjoyed every minute of this game!
Yeah man me too! It was a blast!😅
Peak Drongo entertainment!
Usa usa usa
USA
😂
I don't think there are any issues with the rules. Out of 30 Octagon games there was only a single stalemate like this, which only makes it's better, because sometimes you get weird games, but not too often to bother.
Exactly. There were plenty of 30 minute games. More action packed, mebbe, but nothing of note or interest happened in most of those games. These long shenanigan games are the most fun to watch.
It wasn't a stalemate, there was a winner in the end. It is just a slightly longer game than some of the others we have seen
wørd!
Bro this one match is longer then The Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring Extended Edition on Blu-Ray. Stop making matches on maps with extreme resource saturation like this.
Mad lad actually posted the full 3 and a half hours
To be honest, the most suprise for me was the improvement faye made during this tournament. The first few games she was one of the players who got picked out early or who tried going for a kill but failed and now the last few games was almost perfectly played. Huge improvement. Next OO she will be one of the top player no doubt
She is the undisputed best female player in AOE4.
Idk Faye has always been dominant, especially during OOO1 where the rules were little and the games get too chaotic. I can remember Faye dominating that time 🤣🤣
Trueeee I wanted her to win.
Lol, the best part is the leaderboard showing that in the end it didnt even matter.
3:32:48 I told Drongo to check Avely's rank, his reaction was exactly what I expected. Perfect delivery mate. ur a legend.
cascade loves that narnarnar
3-hour FFA, this is some best content by far, appreciate the content drongo.
thank you for this game. made me fall asleep 4 nights in a row. amazing
This has been my most favourite octagon game. Because it was so long you become more invested and when you make the audience "feel" then it is an entertainment success. Great work!
"Finish the fucking wonder coRe" 😂🎉
2:50:55
3,5 HOURS?! Drongo have you uploaded the Lord of the Rings Extended Edition by any chance ?!?!
Can't wait to watch ! This is where commentating gets tough, to keep talking and keep his audience engaged for 3,5 HOURS !
Drongo the goat, honestly thanks for these games ❤
Some great Drongo lines, my favourite was the ironic "We'll be done any hour now" at an exhausting 3:00:38 into the game ! :D
That was an an absolutely epic game to watch start to finish. Literally took faye bleeding Dyukusi of every last resource he had to break the stalemate
I think stone played a role in prolonging this game just take a look at all these stone walls and keeps what do you expect, they don’t need rules to time or shorten the game if they are playing in a normal map i think increasing the rules will ruin the game
Trade outposts midway between the corners could make a difference as there would be something to fight over and a route to defend.
What a game, Wam calling Aveley out for not being able to kill him in game chat and Aveley responding very nicely, Faye Chan lasting and getting the snipe of the series, taking out Dyukusi and lasting till the end, Drongo acting like a drunken Drongo after a night out at the cas.
Please tell me everyone turtled up for 300 minutes!
I love these types of silly games
No kill count statistics at the end!! nooooooo
@aussie we want kills posted pleasseeee
I agree with this message.
I love these epic long games dont want to artificialy influence the time of games
1:31:15 the realization it would be a 3 hour game lmao
That was a masterpiece damn, I watched every minute
coRe legit trolling Drongo with the wonder after 3 hours. True coRenerboy. Man had some laughs, Drongo started losing it after 2 hours 🔥
averly could have placed that wonder 2 hours prior and still won, there was no way he could loose with that much production and walls
Max supplies pretty much and 150 hc tickets and still didn't place down wonder, Could of defended that so easy
Faye made me cringe doing horsemen/knights for 3 hours…
But it was a good game, i love how the map look after a long game: barren, with ruins everywhere.
40:26 You build 3 markets so you can sell faster
I didn’t know that but it makes sense
Absolutely insane, never seen an FFA this long! My personal record is 2 hours 13 mins, they blew it out of the water!
I would love to see a CIV point total from this series. Using the same scoring format just for the individual civs. Delhi probably only has 1 or 2 points, seemed like an auto loss in FFA.
And the ONE and only stat that needed to be shown: NUMBER OF KILLS - Drongo doesn't show LUL... GO DRONGO!
Thank you Drongo! This certainly was a game of all time.
I would suggest the following way to avoid stalemate: Set a time limit, like 2hr. Once the time is up, whoever has a wonder or all sarect sites that is closest to the countdown limit wins the game. Which means if you build a wonder 2min before the time limit, you just need to hold it for 2 min. If no one has a wonder at the time limit, then the one holding the most sarect sites win. If it is still a draw, then the one with most sarect sites and relics win.
why did faye not make archers for so long it would have been so much easier to break through duyu...
She has to be the worst player in the tourney at this point surely
Imagine this but LOTR and then imagine a dwarf civ and what they could do with all that stone
Lucifron leaving his king like that x.x
I really wanted to watch his play with how he ate a quarter of the map
faye got me on the edge of my seat lol i never thought id say drongo should be on hardcore band
bruuuuh, just finished watching this and have to say: what a beautiful masterpiece! Sad that faye didn't made to the finals but surely I will be cheering for her in the next OO again
thanks drongo for this beautiful content, loving every second of watch on this!
Did anyone see Faye chen try to push deer with king? LOL 1:05
3:12:12 😳😱 Real "IMMABAOUTTONUTTTTTT" Vibes holy sheet Drongo stahp it.
3 hours 12 minutes, was worth it. That unhinged moment was epic
love this shit dont change it Drongo once in a while we enjoy the grind
2:43:23 You know Drongo is in his last straw when FreakyDrongo starts getting unleashed.
Honestly i find this more fun and interesting than 20 minute games, where one player gets a big mass early and just rolls over other players with no army
nice, now I have one single video to watch the whole week
“I tried so hard and got so far
But in the end, it doesn't even matter”
Idea for a solution: After a certain time limit, it is not allowed to repair or build any more more walls, keeps or emplacements (but they don't have to destroy the ones they already have or anything). Easy to implement, fair for all civs, makes turtling unsustainable since damage will accumulate, but still leaves room for the game to progress in a fairly normal and diverse way.
At the 2 hour mark, all players need to delete all but enough houses for 200 pop, after the 3 hour mark, reduce pop to 100, delete all walls and keeps
2:09:29 I REMEMBER THAT GAME. Btw I just wish we would see more english players making longbows and just chucking them on top of random wall segments.
I was so happy for Fay-Chan!!! Really to see one of the underdogs get points is a gem.
this feels like one of thouse looong aoe3 ffas samurai revolution would host
For the Next FFA tournament I think you need your own custom mod for balance. I think players need a way to defend easier in the early ages, seen too many plays with a B their civ just die cause HRE or knight/Armour spam.
Even if they survive the Villager's idle time means that they loss economically, as once you have garrisoned your villagers you have lost, ur not producing any thing and there are just more knights coming.
Maybe introduce a point system for civs picks.
Crazy video, crazy skill W drongo!
OMFG NO WAY NO WAY THIS IS REAL OMFG LOOOLLLLL
Drongo can we get kills posted from this?
Somebody check on Drongo lol he became feral with that USA chant
I just wanted to watch todays game
And took and hour off
f….. 😂😢
Same 😂😅
When i see stone maps, i know the game's going to be a really lengthy one
You should make a rule like: No more Villagers after 90 minutes, by then everyone has enough resources but cant keep building walls and stuff.
Truly a masterpiece
3:33:40 poor coRe..
The farms in this map should be Marijuana.
Because they're... Stoned?
No kill counts? Day ruined
2:16 Drongo you might have jinxed this game at that point
Another way to prevent very long games is to give double points for anyone who wins with a wonder or sacred sites while 3 or more other players are in play.
every second was worth watching!
LET'S FRAGGIN GO AVELY!!!!!!!
Honestly Faye's snipe with Jean d'arc was fantastic to watch. None of the players played perfectly but the first 90 mins and the last thirty were brilliant. I skipped the rest lol. I would suggest to avoid the passive player, give one point for a wonder being built and held until ten minutes left. 2 points for getting to give minutes left. It's harder to manage but like core hesitating for so long about building it and averly not building until the very end really make it boring, so i think incentivizing building a wonder would make the game more fun.
For the first time ever, fay did something impressive
After 90 minutes, if there is no kill in 15 mins, there is a timer set for win condition to be activated (SS/W) within 10 mins, else game ends stale mate (share the winner points perhaps for getting to that stage). 10 min timer resets after each further kill.
what a game
Faye not going archers is driving me nuts
Faye played really well in this one but watching her keep throwing horsemen into the spear meat grinder was painful
He went full stone... u never go full stone... It seems like the reason this went this way was the lack of gold, thus siege... This probably could have been better with a little more balance towards gold. U never go full stone...
21:18 damn so Lucifron is a big bear huh? 😏
I loved the long game. No need to change rules. 1 of 30 games goes long is not an issue
2:50:10 Omg blueballing Drongo xD
Would be amazing if you shared stats on how many people watch the whole thing
3:12:15 JAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJJAJ
3 hr game what the fuck
You can go for 90min and it will still look the same 😂😂
53:43 It's a more STABLE battle strategy.
Haha I am stoned rn too 😂😂
3:34 minutes. Too long for me lol 😂
Whys a long game an issue? To me these long games are the essence of FFA AOE I remember 10 hour AOE2 games and it's so epic
Stop trying to control the games with rules! Also to stop teaming make it a mechanic in age4 they can research diplomacy
had to wait the week end to watch this game 😂
2:23:30 Drongo's sanity going away.
Bruh if faye would have literally made any other unit than cavalry she could've won like what was the game plan there
And attacking the wrong outpost at the end was hard to watch. But her snipes were absolutely brilliant. Gobsmacking.
3:10:40 This was this man's last hope.
I lost my mind watching this godforsaken game
Aaw too bad we had no chat after a bit, I always wonder about it, especially in such a long game.
Wonder if any mind games were played.
O Boy the ingame chat would be sooo good in this game
No joke this game is so freaking long we gonna get GTA VIII Before I finish it.
Core king is so free as it can his king ask for it to kill me 😂
How about making less point as long the game going, this server as aggressive play style for all players
Wow. How long can you talk about people pausing the game? So they paused the game for like a split second. What is the big deal? Who here actually cares that they paused the game?!
no one's got any gold. meanwhile avely on 32k
honestly at this point Admin should force them to drain each other rss out by fighting.
I wouldn't like it with the extra Points for Wonder or something.
I Like, the Actual Rules.
Some long games ar pretty funy if there are only a few very long games.
I watched every second of this game 😩
Oh my this is gonna be a good watch!
Red Bull's hit is nothing compared to the crack pipe level alertness hit you get from an original classic green Monster. They don't compare.
I skipped from 1.5 hours until 4 became 3 and 2, did i miss much in the mean time? Did Faye build any other units? Did Averly use the best landmark for this of game? No. Lol. That said the temple of equality would have been so so so so good.
We need more stone maps.