EBAY COLD AIR INTAKE INSTALL ON C5 CORVETTE
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- Installing a cheap Ebay cold air intake on the C5 China-Vette project.
I buy a $45 ebay cold air intake and put it on my 2002 Corvette as the first part in a series of crappy ebay parts to be installed and tested. Welcome to Bad Luck Garage! #Chinavette
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i usually dont like chrome either but that doesnt look half bad. keep up the mods
I usually paint those cheap intakes either satin black or with rustoleum bedcoat but I'm actually wanting this to look riced out so I'm gonna leave it.😅 I'm hoping to order the Ebay headers and x-pipe next payday. Maybe sooner if my uncle goes ahead and pays me for the Lq4/4L80 Im building for him. 😉
Bad Luck Garage hell yeah man
I just opened up my factory intake air box with a dremel tool and put a factor replacement K&N air filter. Works great.
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Tutorial?
Ok I now I have the universal split intake but it's clearly wider and bigger than this one. With my open front slits next to my fog lights outside air makes it to the two filters. Works great.
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What’s the part number I want to do the same
I've got a cold air intake with huge twin lung filters on my c5. Not a really noticeable hp gain. First thing to do is get front of hood after market gasket as if you get caught in rain and water gets under front lip of hood and onto filters you could end up sucking water into engine.
Yea brother I’m way beyond that at this point in the build. This video was like 8 months ago and was actually a bit of a joke at the time. 😉 The filters on this eBay intake are probably more restrict than the factory filter but fit the spirit of the build at the time.
Just zip tie on hoses.
For the money eBay intake doesn’t look to bad. I bought one for my 2012 Camaro it was actually a pretty good intake for the money no complaints.
Checked for dirt or debris getting into intake always looked clean.
Looking good and performing well are two entirely different things. If looks is all you care about then this works fine. If you care about performance then these intakes actually hurt it as I’ve shown in datalogs in multiple other videos since making this video five years ago.
I'm not a dyno guy....... The two Nitros bottles in the back looking at him 😏
It’s been five years since I made this video and still haven’t been on a dyno with any of my cars. All my tuning is done at the track.👍
Geez, no test drive wth? I feel cheated... 😶
I agree keep the merge and upgrade the filters. 👍
Agreed! Give us a ride in this Purdy girl!
I gotta pry the keys outta the Wifeys hands first! 😅 Seriously I was thinking about another ride along video but I've got that swapped C10 over here I need to get tuned for my buddy. Hes been waiting most of the summer for me to do it and I've just been covered up with work.
So how is the efficiency on the Ebay intake???? Because I get the same one 😁😁😁
no clue but planning to do a dyno comparison in the near future👍
@@albertoguerreromtz7264 I read one report from a guy testing using a flow bench , who said the airflow coming in from two different directions actually flowed worse than if you blocked off one side and made it a single intake. there was nothing said about filters, so I assume they weren't involved .
Wouldn't be surprised if the small filters breath better than the stock setup. The stock setup is unbelievably restrictive.
I would be HIGLY surprised if they did. The total surface area of these filters is actually less than the stock filter. They are tiny. I only installed this intake because it fit the “China” criteria of the build but I fully intend to trash it once I hit the goal for this budget portion of the build. Especially after seeing Lees results at the track. If you’ve watched this whole series you’ll see a buddy of mine(Lee) with an identical vette in some of my videos. He had this same intake and switched to a Volant(at least I think that’s what it was) while we were at the track and picked up 2 tenths and a couple mph in the 1/8 with no other changes. I only wish we would have had a stock setup to test as well that day. I honestly believe you would be better off throwing a k&n filter in the stock intake and doing the zip tie mod than running this eBay intake.
@@BadLuckGarage Lol they must look smaller in real life. Thanks for replying though man. Keep up the good videos.
Yea brother they’re tiny. I have small hands for a guy my size. I only wear a size large glove so that kinda gives you an idea. Just for a vette comparison, most Honda Civic aftermarket intakes come with filters twice this size. Then add in the fact that the filtration media looks pretty dense on these as well and yea, not very good flow. Another issue is how high the filters are on the radiator which results in really high iats. I’ve actually thought about doing a follow up on this video going over my data logs from the dragstrip to show just how inefficient this mistake is and explain the problems and solutions with the intake setups on the C5s. The objective with any intake system on these cars should be to get as free flowing a filter as possible and place it as far down and forward as possible to get it away from the heat of the radiator and expose it to the cooler air at the front/bottom of that compartment. This eBay intake does neither of these things and it really shows in my datalogs.
I question the unbelievably restrictive statement. Why would anyone think the engineers who, with super computer time, extensive testing, and a multimillion dollar development budget to work with, and who designed the engine would be unable to design an adequate air intake. More is not always better, especially with a computer matched to the engine air intake system .
@@richardelliott8352 The thing you have to keep in mind is the GM engineers weren’t after “maximum power”. They were after better than anyone else in this catagory power while maintaining emissions output that met epa guidelines at the time. GM engineers have literally every available technology at their disposal when they designed these cars and they only came out with 345-350hp. Any Joe blow can add headers, and intake, and a dyno tune and easily pull another 40+hp out of an LS1 without ever touching the internals. If the GM engineers goal would have been to make thing as efficient as possible then that wouldn’t be the case and these cars would have had 400+ hp straight from the factory. That being said, 5 years ago when I made this video, it was kind of an inside joke between me, my friends, and a few other TH-camrs. This eBay intake is total garbage and I’ve explained why using data logs several times in videos post dating this one. The funny thing about TH-cam is people often find one or two of your videos and fail to go back and watch an entire series or even see all the other builds you’ve done over the years. If a person were to go back and watch the entire Chinavette series, they would understand that this entire Chinavette build was meant as an FU to the average corvette owner who spends tons of money on expensive name brand parts just because they don’t know any better or think they’re somehow better. I showed in this build that you can spend around $1500 total and have a car capable of making 10 second passes whereas your average C5 owner will spend that much money on just an axleback exhaust that does nothing but make the car louder. Matter of fact, a conversation on a C5 Facebook group about a $1500 set of mufflers is exactly what prompted me to buy this car and do all this years ago. Yes, I’m so petty that I went out and bought a C5 just to prove a point to a bunch of boomers in a Facebook group. 🤣 Hell I don’t even really care for Corvettes and I actually had no intention of keeping the car either. But after I was done with it and tried to sell it my wife wanted it. So I gave it to her and it’s been one of her daily drivers for the last 3 years now. Still has the nitrous in it too. 😈
China vette ftw! 😂
I don’t know if I’d call it a win exactly. Lol.
Chrome looks badass
The stock accordion looking pleats on the intake hose serve a function by disturbing the air flow, to get a better air sample to the factory sensor. So, any system using a factory sensor and a smooth section of hose as a replacement intake part, one can tell just by looking, without a dyno comparison , it is not going to be an improvement over stock. Becuae the computer will poorer quality data so determine the tune than with the stock part.
the sensor screen also modifies the air flow productively, also to get a better sample of the passing air. My 2003 has a screen before the sensor, function is not improved by removing the as designed screen on the part, they are not just making stuff up when they design parts. just carefully spray clean the thing with a dedicated cleaner, not brake cleaner, that's all you can do. while you are at it, you might hit the throttle body too, my used car had little piles of dirt in the crevices, like it had never been cleaned.
Thanks for watching! Glad this video helped you out!
Got same color vette love it get so many compliments
Yea I passed on several waiting for the electron blue. It’s a favorite color for me.
I have one on my C5 with 140000 miles on with no complaints
There's no reason you should have any complaints until you track test it back to back against a better one and see how much power its killing and how much higher your IATs are. 🙄
I'd like to chime in here for a second.. I have the same set up in my 98 c5 with 2 k&n filters. In my opinion this set up is ok.. I wish I could do a video as I have not seen anybody do a driving video of this "ebay" intake set up. the car is away for the winter in storage. I did just purchase the vararam intake and will install in the spring.. but before I do the install I will def make a comparison video of the "ebay" intake and the vararam and upload.
You’ll find plenty of driving videos in this playlist brother, and several track days to boot. 😉
looks like the original aftermarket intake is the piece of crap
Most aftermarket intakes are in fact pieces of crap, regardless of price or name brand.
I just bought a c5 came with a lingenfelter carbon fiber air box that's open from the front
Video on street tuning would be good.. cold air intakes on most cars don't make gains over stock intakes, just sound better
Greetings from Germany.
I install those Filter System yesterday.
I dont care about HP, because i dont kick my Car that much. I install this Filter because of Sound. I was thinking the Car should sound way better with those Filter.
But after my first Test Drive i was very dissapointed.
Im not sure, but i cant hear any difference. Maaaaaybe a little bit.
And after a short 10min Test Drive the cooling Fan already switched on.
So .... i dont think its worth the Money.
I will drive it for a few weeks, and than change back to the stock Filter.
Yea they’re garbage. It’s only in there because of the nature of this project.
@@BadLuckGarage I just bought it because of 2 reasons. First it cost only 60$, so i was thinking its nothing, and i give it a try.
And second its not a Complex Technical Thing. Its very simple, so there is basicly no room to make something wrong.
Unfortunately you don't have to make something "wrong" for it to still be ineffective. You just have to not have a clear understanding of what the part is intended to accomplish....which is why this is such a poor design. Tiny filters and sucking hot air straight from the top of the radiator is a bad mix and definitely hurts power output. IATs were higher than some of the turbo cars I've built and pcm was pulling a ton of timing because of it. I actually discussed all this and went over raceday datalogs in later videos in this build playlist about a year ago. This intake fit the "china parts" and peanut budget criteria of this build back when I did it, but I would in no way recommend this to anyone who actually cared about the performance of their Corvette.....or any other car for that matter.
I bought the same pair and painted them look at my latest update video on my Trans Am build on my chan.
I'm very curious of the outcome!
I am as well. Hopefully I can work a deal with the dyno by my house.
Hopefully they will cut you a deal. Especially because you make TH-cam videos. You can get their name out.
Problem is this channel isn't really big enough to have any advertising leverage. But a guy can dream I guess, lol.
Bad Luck Garage doesn't hurt to try! Lol
No sir it does not! What’s that saying? You’ll always lose every race you don’t enter. 👍🏻
I tried this…I really did. I actually have a C4 not c5 and I ran into major clearance issues. I can only guess the LS1 C5s have more room h see the hood. What I built looked cool, but would not clear.
Brother I know you’re probably new to the channel but this was kind of a joke video. I wouldn’t actually recommend this setup if you’re truly looking for performance. I’ve actually explained why in other videos and in teapsonce to some of the comments on this video. But basically the filters are way too small and intakes like these experience horrible heat soak and slow speeds which caused the pcm to pull timing and lose power.
Everyone has different skill sets and levels of knowledge. Why would you troll people on your own YT channel??? There’s wrong with going a different direction on a modification. I have a modified version of a Callaway front end on my car. The only major issue was clearance. It doesn’t matter WHERE you get the intake…only as long as it works for its intended purpose… 🤦♂️
@@tremorsusa And this one doesn’t. I’ve proven this with datalogs in other videos to help those who want to learn. People come to my channel to learn to go fast on a small budget. In this series I showed them how to make a C5 run 10s for less than $1500. My regular viewers loved the Chinavette series. The corvette purists hated it and stayed ignorant as I knew they would. So as for trolling, yes, this entire C5 project was one huge troll ….to the ignorance of the C5 community. My regular viewers who paid attention to the first video of the series knew what was up from day one and that’s who I cater to.
The cracks and gaps let dirt get by the filters! Not good! It looks good with the chrome! Im wondering if rain or wash water can leak down through the hood joint and get the filters wet?
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Haha Mr. eBay. You and eBay. The dyno on Clinton Hwy is cool place little hole in the wall shop.
That’s the one I’m talking about. 👍🏻
I’m curious to see if these would fit on a 6.0L 03 Silverado
I’m sure it would, but why would you want to when better intakes are made specifically for it and are the same price?
I'm sorry I put my listing today and my picture of it didn't go through. Going to fix it now. Filter is Corvette red and all the other parts are black.
I found it brother and its a killer deal for sure, just not in the budget at the moment. Im betting it sells fast for that price though!👍
Like the video man..
i just picked up a spare dbc truck intake last night..
after it's done soaking in soapy water to remove 150,000 miles of egr and pvc gunk..
I'm gonna shave it..
Might even make a shitty video on my phone lol
Do it and share it over on the Bad Luck Garage group page on facebook! I've gotta find a DBC intake and throttle body soon for the Nova build myself.
Your uncle decide if he's gonna shave it or leave it oringal with the Denali covers you have ?
I believe hes wanting to use the Denali covers. Hes Just like me and more worried about the go than the show but if we get it done and he doesn't like it then we'll look at other options 😉
Cheesy yes but funny AF
IMO: Looks good, leave it like it is...
I don’t really worry about looks so much as I do performance.
great vid
Thank you sir. Make sure you check out the rest of this playlist to follow this build or some of the other builds if you're interested
@@BadLuckGarage sure ill do
by the way what your thought on this intake i recently bought $400 intake system and honestly i dont even see a sound different @@BadLuckGarage
I don’t install intakes for sound, I install them for performance and honestly, as I stated in the video, the filters are very small and probably restrictive. Also the piping doesn’t extend far enough down into the nose of the car to pull cold air and my catalogs from the dragstrip show significantly hot IATs when the car is sitting still. I only used this intake to stick with the theme of this build but plan to replace it with something better once I hit the number for the eBay build.
Hey I got a huge Lingenfelter cold air set up for a Corvette for sale. New out of box but never installed. It's got the MAF couplers, sheilds and all. Well put Chinese writing on it if you like. Lol. You can see it on Charlotte NC Craigslist right now. Worth the price I'm asking. Give me a call if you like it.
I think I just saw that ad. Says "norwood" area. Thats a hell of a deal and I'd love to have it but I'm actually trying to see what I can do with cheap Ebay parts at the moment but after all this is over and I hit my goals then the build may get more "serious" with name brand parts and I might even try another forced induction build and hope it doesnt end up like my turbo C10 build. LOL. This is all going to be done with crappy chinese parts. I'm aware of just how crappy they are....Im just trying to do something different to see how far I can take it without spending big money. Hope that makes sense brother.
Np man. Was trying to help on that on the cheap. My description somehow got messed up and my pic was not there. But everything is accurate now. Anyway Im enjoying your videos and keep up the good work
Thanks brother. Like I said that is an awesome deal and if I weren't purposely doing this with all ebay parts I would be all over it!
I put that same one on my 98 but I also ordered the K&N bridge to go w/ it. Going to upgrade my filters to K&N's also :-)
Brother honestly by the time you buy all that, you could have just bought a better intake to begin with. I bought this as a joke because there was a specific goal and budget for this Chinavette project but under any other conditions I would just spend an extra $150 and buy a name brand with a bridge and good filters to begin with. If you watch my other videos on this build you will see me at the track with a guy with an identical C5. He was running this same eBay intake and did nothing but switched intake and dropped 2/10ths in the 1/8 mile. The filters are the restriction I’m sure but like I said, for the price of buying two k&n filters and a beer flowing air bridge, you’re already in the price range of a much better intake.
I totally hear you on that and appreciate your response. I was just trying something different on a budget.... LOL I was just wondering if anyone else actually bought that cheap intake..... :-) I plan on doing a cam headers and tune on the 98 C5 or my 02 TA
WHY YOU DID NOT USE A CLAMP INSTEAD OF TAPE FOR THE LITTLE TUBE?????
WHY ARE YOU YELLING? Calm down. There’s more than one way to accomplish the same task. And if you watch the header install videos we deleted the entire air injection system a week after this video was made anyway. 😉
Thinkin on adapting on a silverado 5.3 vortec wondering how ill work
Just get the Silverado intake instead. It’s the same price, comes with a larger filter with more surface area and comes with a box to seal it to the old cold air intake ports. This is take is gonna pull nothing but hot air from behind your radiator.
I hope u fixed that cracked bridge ? Un metered air for ya there! No more burned up motor!!!!
Yep not my first rodeo bud. 😉 fix it with duct tape. Once the China build part of this project is over I’ll be replacing it with a Vararam bridge. But for now the duct tape has it sealed fine and it kind of adds to the whole cheap ass build look under the hood 🤣🤣🤣
one more thing, you can get larger K/N filters if you think the stock units are too small.at 45 bucks for the unit thats a doable option.
Airflow is only one of several issues with this intake design. I have recorded data logs during track days and covered other issues such as heat soak and filter placement in greater detail in the videos that I have made in the year since this install was done. Also it should be noted that after paying an additional $90 for K&N filters, you would have pushed yourself into a price point where a much better performing custom setup could have been utilized.
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@@BadLuckGarage . Fair enough, but how did it compare to the OEM unit,which is what most guys only care about? BTW, that unit on your car in the video reeks of low quality Chinese plastic which would explain it's poor fitment and heat fatigue failure.
@richard knudsen The unit that was on the car when I bought it was actually a Volant intake system which ironically enough are made in the USA. And no I was not impressed with the quality at all and thats covered in other videos as well where I attempted to repair it. As for comparing this system to stock, I have not, but a friend actually switched from this ebay intake while we were at the track and picked up several tenths in the 1/8th. The specifics are in the comments of this video as I've covered this topic multiple times over the last year.
@@BadLuckGarage . Ok, so I came in in the middle of the conversation and you make valid points but for $45 bucks over stock its still a good deal. I do have 4 C5's btw, and one has that ,two are stock and one came with the $300 Vararam but I havent bothered to A/B that with any of the others. Got a friend with DynoJet chassis dyno but never bothered him yet. maybe next spring when he's slow. Nice Talk.
I’m not sure what conversation you’re referring to but in the end its YOUR car. You’re free to do whatever you like with it. I’m only informing you of my findings while track testing this intake because you made a comment on my video and I wanted to make sure you understood that there was more shortcomings with this particular intake than just the airflow so that you and others who may read through the comments were informed of that before choosing to spend hard earned money. That’s kind of why I make these videos. 😉
#1 have John tig a bigger nipple on. #2 install old filters on new pipe, throw new china filters in trash.
keep it up bro good work
I’m really wanting to do the dyno thing before I throw anything away. I have to work all weekend but maybe I can set something up for next weekend if they’re work with me.
I'm tired of throwing new things in the trash that is why I don't buy anything from Ebay
@@henryroman5997 next time you wanna throw something in the trash, just send it to me instead. I can always use scrap pipes and filters.
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Hi Joseph Azzato! Thanks for watching! Glad this video helped you out!
@@BadLuckGarage no help, was simply interested wanted to see how it sounded because it fits on my truck as well, may be it was a little harsh but it's a video without a fenaly, a story without an end, Sex without climax...! hope you get what I mean. but any who have a great day
Hi Joseph Azzato! Thanks for watching! Glad this video helped you out!
Chinese intake vs cheap China intake?
Right
Whatever happened to the Dyno test that was going to be done on this?
There wasn’t enough interest in this C5 project to make it worth spending the money to put it in a dyno. Especially since we had set a $1500 max budget for it. So we did videos on intake, headers, xpipe, and nitrous, ran bottom 7s, won a few races, replaced the transmission, and I gave it to my wife as a daily so I could move onto other project vehicles on the channel. She’s still using it as one of her daily’s 3 years later. Lol.
I just want the k&n filters nothing else
I don’t think they’re even K@N. They’re copy’s from what I can tell. The intake that was on it doesn’t appear to be any better quality than the one I just put on other than those filters and one of them is crushed. 🤪
Bad Luck Garage crushed don't bother them I ran one that was crushed on the mustang I had that make a difference
Duck tape
Unicorn duct tape actually. Skip ahead a few videos in the Chinavette playlist and you’ll see. 🤣
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Thanks brother. I hope you enjoy the content or at least find some of it helpful. 👍🏻
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Fung Cho Vett ...... Finance a car to Chinese the shit out of it ... Only at bad luck garage .. This is some $hit id expect from HoneyBadger.. WTH is goin on.
Just wanted to try something different I guess. Nobody else wants to Chinese out a Vette so I feel obligated. 🤣 Hell at least I’m not sitting in the driveway revving my engine ......oh wait. 🤪
HaA! Im gonna see if i can get my hands on a blue underglow led kit for you and Barbwire Pinstripe ...
Whoa whoa whoa! We’re not doing all that cheesy shit to the outside. I still gotta drive this thing. 🤣🤣🤣
Stupid is as stupid does. These after market filters offer a higher flow way beyond the requirements of an engineat max rpm. The filter efficiency is very low and all this does is wear out an engine. I will not purchase an autowith the air filtration system modified. These filter are good for keeping the marbles out but that's all.
I can agree with about 1/3 of that statement. 😉
Lmao
Junk
Yep, 100% junk. And we proved it with track day datalogs in other videos. 👍
To bad luck garage, the only bad luck that I have is buying the low quality junk they sell on Ebay, that is why I only like buying from Amazon that way my chances of getting a refund are better than no chance at all from Ebay ,f Ebay.
You do realize you’re dealing with the same sellers and same products on Amazon as you are on eBay and even Aliexpress right?🤣 I’ve also never had any problem receiving a refund from any of them except Aliexpress because I’ve never used it.
I heard this kit doesn’t give you any horse power at all .. so why even install it lol
Why even watch a video about installing it? Lol. In all seriousness though, If you watch the “plans and goals” video in this playlist you’ll understand why I installed it. As useless as it it, it still met the criteria of this build. 😉 And to answer your question, based on the datalogs I discussed in other videos in this playlist, this intake most likely LOST power due to heat soak and poorly positioned air inlets. Also this video is two years old, so since you’re just now watching videos about this intake, there’s a pretty good chance I’m one of the people you “heard” saying this kit doesn’t give you any power because I’ve already proven it and let half the internet know. 😉