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  • @ReadswithRachel
    @ReadswithRachel  ปีที่แล้ว +31

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  • @arkkon2740
    @arkkon2740 ปีที่แล้ว +2008

    Spicy peter pan is one thing, but "boy with a presence of a man" may or may not deserve a 20 year sentence 💀

    • @andiman44
      @andiman44 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Not 20 years 😂

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  ปีที่แล้ว +410

      Straight to jail do not pass go do not collect $200

    • @Cadapech
      @Cadapech ปีที่แล้ว +43

      The jail is your tomb at this point. I'm sorry WHY!?

    • @atherisGAY
      @atherisGAY ปีที่แล้ว

      It shouldve been man with the presence of a boy but that is just every manchild ever

    • @sonder122
      @sonder122 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Non sequitur here, but talking about ‘boy with the presence of a man’ thing; does anyone else think the Tom Hanks movie “Big” has some very, very dodgy vibes? Considering the main character is literally 13 years old.

  • @dylanmiller9162
    @dylanmiller9162 ปีที่แล้ว +688

    ‘The Never King’ is one of the hardest titles I’ve heard of and I’m so sad it was wasted on this book

    • @gokuxsephiroth4505
      @gokuxsephiroth4505 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      The cover would absolutely draw me in as well. I would have thought it to be a grimdark fantasy involving a fight for the throne and a lot of death in it.

    • @basementdwellercosplay
      @basementdwellercosplay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      And the cover too, like if I saw this as a teenager I would 1000% have bought it

    • @dylanmiller9162
      @dylanmiller9162 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@basementdwellercosplay Name checks out-agreed I would’ve done the same, and been…so confused and so disappointed

    • @IncensedAgitator
      @IncensedAgitator 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Fun Fact, in the US, titles are not copyrightable, only how they're designed.
      So, much like Fifty Shades of Grey, the fifty page book of grey color palettes, you too can have a book called The Never King. You'll probably still be taken to court but hey, others have won over less

  • @Jimmiwashere
    @Jimmiwashere ปีที่แล้ว +817

    Admittedly if someone had said "cut the fish from the mouth to the anal bone" at my kitchen job we woulda spent a good five minutes yelling jokes about it, so maybe MC is just line cook coded 😂

  • @angryotter9129
    @angryotter9129 ปีที่แล้ว +780

    “There’s a fairy p*rn out there for everyone, I just haven’t found mine yet.”
    Yes! That’s the spirit!

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  ปีที่แล้ว +138

      “I do believe in fairies, I do I do” 🤣

    • @OsloTime
      @OsloTime 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @angryotter9129 That's the sprite! 🤭🧚‍♀️

  • @Uneclipsed
    @Uneclipsed ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Why is dark fantasy always “I want to brutalize the female love interest” and never “I want her to step on me”? Hmm? Where are all the scary MLs who get the tables turned on them when the FL enters her villain arch?

  • @abs-urdity
    @abs-urdity ปีที่แล้ว +314

    23:07 Hmmm no you're right, this sounds like incest with extra steps. It feels like something Cassandra Clare would write.

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  ปีที่แล้ว +45

      This

    • @MondkeksLP
      @MondkeksLP 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I burst out laughing. Very descriptive and I love it.

  • @tesscarlson5552
    @tesscarlson5552 ปีที่แล้ว +360

    You could tell this book wasn't going to be good when the Goodreads page unironically had '"touch her and I'll unalive you' vibes" listed as something you could expect from it.

    • @Financiallyfreeauthor
      @Financiallyfreeauthor ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A lot of people seem to like that

    • @sillyguythescary
      @sillyguythescary 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      @@Financiallyfreeauthor im pretty sure it was the fact that "unalive" was used instead of 'kill'. tiktok censoring already sounds icky enough on it's own, its even worse when it's on sites that don't require it.

    • @mookiess
      @mookiess 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      i was just checking out the synopsis and the moment i came across that sentence i almost choked lmao. I have never seen a tiktok censor be used on a professional publication and to see that was so out of place and only gave me the impression the author might be chronically online.

  • @scapegoat13
    @scapegoat13 ปีที่แล้ว +842

    I'm still obsessed with this cover, but dark romance is a nope for me, and i'm pretty sure the nopes will only multiply by the end of this video 😂

    • @rubydown3329
      @rubydown3329 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I was scrolling through my subscription videos really quick and I thought this video was about the Locked Tomb books 💀🕶️

    • @arec6345
      @arec6345 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Same. I refuse to read dark anything because I'm too empathetic and it throws me into an awful mental state

    • @LilyEvans1996
      @LilyEvans1996 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That cover is so creepy.

    • @Saphia_
      @Saphia_ ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Same. I'd have loved the cover to enclose something that is more horror and less horrifying. Dark romance and me do not match and dark romance books without trigger warnings are not something I'd even want to touch.

    • @joannamarieart
      @joannamarieart ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same, same. Dark romance is a hard nope for me!

  • @AramiHeartilly
    @AramiHeartilly ปีที่แล้ว +582

    Pretty sure Brownies are a fairytale creature. I remember them being in fairy books I read as a child in the UK.

    • @lauriechan1426
      @lauriechan1426 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Yes, they are a 'wilder' version of fairies

    • @andiman44
      @andiman44 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      I’m pretty sure they’re a legitimate part of Celtic folklore

    • @vainpiers
      @vainpiers ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Yeah brownies are UK folklore. I used to be in the brownies as a kid

    • @vainpiers
      @vainpiers ปีที่แล้ว +94

      actual explanation, though, they're pixies that help you do housework when you sleep but also punish you if you're lazy and I think they will be offended if you try and give them gifts and will leave. They tend to stay with the same land/family.

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  ปีที่แล้ว +138

      Damn I really don’t know shit… can I blame growing up in fundieland for not knowing this 😂

  • @wildfire_writer
    @wildfire_writer ปีที่แล้ว +469

    Who was it that said “if you have to say it’s not technically incest, it’s still incest”?

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  ปีที่แล้ว +83

      They were right 😂

    • @foxlover6770
      @foxlover6770 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      That’s from Umbrella Academy I think, I think Klaus says it

    • @rosykindbunny1313
      @rosykindbunny1313 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@foxlover6770Luther x Allison is gross as fuck and Klaus knows it

    • @musicaltheater8942
      @musicaltheater8942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

      @@foxlover6770yeah it is klaus says “If you have to say technically you’re already in trouble” when allison’s trying to explain her and luther dating

    • @Pharm2be
      @Pharm2be 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I think it’s a buzzfeed unsolved quote too but I could be wrong

  • @jlouisa
    @jlouisa ปีที่แล้ว +518

    Never cared about Peter Pan but your idea of the main girl’s mom being strong and wanting to train her daughter would be interesting. Also cloudberries are a real fruit from Nordic countries. I only know this because Ikea sells jam with this fruit. Also brownies are a type of household sprite, but yea I actually wanted an actual chocolate brownie.

    • @gabrielavillaboim9701
      @gabrielavillaboim9701 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I shit you not, I thought of a giant chocolate monster while reading this book... 😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️

    • @jasminv8653
      @jasminv8653 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah cloudberries actually also grow in canada and northern usa!

    • @yusahana6323
      @yusahana6323 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I got so upset when I saw cloudberries being written off as a fantasy thing since I grew up eating them with my family haha

    • @srg24601
      @srg24601 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      OHHHHHH! I used to work somewhere where I met a lot of children and one day there was a little girl named Cloudberry. We thought her parents made it up and that it was pretty, but weird. I had no idea it was a real berry.
      The funny thing was she went by Cloud and we had a set of twins we saw sometimes named Cloud and Sephiroth. So until we learned Cloudberry's full name we thought we had two kids named after Cloud Strife in our office lmao

    • @tympestbooks1727
      @tympestbooks1727 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jasminv8653 They do?! That's awesome, I'd heard that they mostly grow in Finland and can't really be cultivated for farming. But hearing that they're also over on this side of the pond is really neat.

  • @birdiejett3163
    @birdiejett3163 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    “Kids who grew up in the 90s- early 2000s, turned out to be bisexual, and became obsessed with Once Upon a Time” I didn’t expect to be so specifically called out-

    • @roselover411
      @roselover411 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right? Same 😂 way too many people to thirst over there, you can't be contained by gender

    • @my_girl_seraphine5294
      @my_girl_seraphine5294 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed

  • @greenonionbabey
    @greenonionbabey ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Idk why but "Ass and Bash" has me in tears I WISH those were their real names

  • @clarkispotamia
    @clarkispotamia ปีที่แล้ว +327

    I love dark romance IN THEORY but I haven’t actually encountered any books in the genre I’ve liked. I would love if someone could write a half decent sapphic dark romance but until then I’m on ao3 reading house of the dragon fics 🤣

    • @vainpiers
      @vainpiers ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's not spicy but I really enjoyed a lesson in vengeance

    • @andiman44
      @andiman44 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      The Killing Eve fandom has that covered lol

    • @clarkispotamia
      @clarkispotamia ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@andiman44 so true, I love Killing Eve

    • @MegaChadAnakin
      @MegaChadAnakin ปีที่แล้ว +40

      these books are so silly when you're used to ao3 writing

    • @aaronkoh962
      @aaronkoh962 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you think about Tryst Six Venom?

  • @Thenoobestgirl
    @Thenoobestgirl ปีที่แล้ว +103

    "Mommy, can we get Peter Pan?"
    "We have Peter Pan at home, hun."
    Peter Pan at home: 💀

  • @what_the_hecka_rebecca
    @what_the_hecka_rebecca 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    The way that Rufio from the Peter Pan movie had a CHOKEHOLD on me back in the day and I didn't know why until I realize he was also Zuko from Last Airbender. Dante Basco bi panic King 👑

  • @courtnsession_
    @courtnsession_ ปีที่แล้ว +106

    This story would do well in the PWP tag on AO3 so it makes sense why tiktok would be all over it

  • @jadedoni6447
    @jadedoni6447 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    As a twin, I'm also creeped out by the twin thing. Horrified, actually.

    • @BlackCherryLimonade
      @BlackCherryLimonade 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No joke, the sequel to this book has even worse twin stuff, like straight vomit.
      I would know. (Didn't read it, watched a rant review lol)

  • @darkadalia
    @darkadalia ปีที่แล้ว +138

    If I want a villainous Pan I'll re-watch OUAT

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Exactly

    • @acarfullofclowns
      @acarfullofclowns 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      if i may ask, what is OUAT? i've never heard of it and i love Peter Pan. is it a movie or series? if so, where can i watch it?

    • @bumbabees
      @bumbabees 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@acarfullofclowns im assuming once upon a time? youll have to look it up because i dont remember much about it, but i think thats what theyre talking about.

  • @stephanieraylove
    @stephanieraylove ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Random, but I swear this book just made me think every scene stank. Like on page, I kept thinking, "I bet that room stanks," the weirdest phenomenon that only ever happened to me during this one book 😂😅

    • @lilly7550
      @lilly7550 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The raw stench of sex really emanates from this book. Like, they must smell…

    • @stephanieraylove
      @stephanieraylove 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@lilly7550 Idk if the showers were supposed to be implied. But whew, I do not believe the showers were happening man😫

  • @atherisGAY
    @atherisGAY ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I am so glad this "twin brothers just fucking the same girl at the same time" is weird to others too, I thought I was losing my mind... I would just crumple up and die if my sister saw me having sex

  • @SadayoshiEntertainment
    @SadayoshiEntertainment ปีที่แล้ว +94

    "No shadow = no sunlight" sounds like something from the Thriller Bark arc of One Piece, where villain Moria's ability to remove people's shadows made it such that they would disintegrate in direct sunlight.

    • @andiman44
      @andiman44 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Never expected to see a One Piece reference here of all places

    • @ASociallyAwkwardDuckling
      @ASociallyAwkwardDuckling ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s exactly where my mind went!

  • @cogmouse
    @cogmouse ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Cloudberries are actually a real fruit! They look pretty cartoonish (kind of like an orange blackberry) and they grow in the northern parts of europe and north america. I've never had them in pancakes though.

    • @Illyrian5
      @Illyrian5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Came here to say this. I've tried cloudberry jam and it's quite good. The berries themselves apparently don't last long at all once they've been picked.

    • @81dragonmind
      @81dragonmind ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh! Thats what they are called in english? Did not know that. I love to have cloudberry jam to waffles.

  • @ixeliema
    @ixeliema ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Man, I'm honestly really bummed to say that I like the concept of "every generation the women of my family disappear on the night of their eighteenth birthday and, if they ever come back, always come back traumatized"...like that sounds legit engaging to me. It makes me wonder why, who did it, is it a curse? But boy is this book a slog. Honestly, it's a huge shame how many decent/interesting concepts get wasted on mediocre smut. I'm a relatively sex-positive asexual person who tends to write their own smut for fun (because that's what it's supposed to be, fun.) But this so did not do it for me.

  • @victoriamasters
    @victoriamasters ปีที่แล้ว +253

    If you’re okay with monster smut, A Soul to Keep by Opal Reyne was 5 stars for me and you actually see them fall in love rather than just lust.

    • @victoriamasters
      @victoriamasters ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Although the smut scenes can be strange. Haha

    • @CaptainTrasha
      @CaptainTrasha ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@victoriamastersyeah they use the work “milking” a lot 😅

    • @victoriamasters
      @victoriamasters ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@CaptainTrasha lol I forgot about that 😂 but I actually like the couple and their relationship so much better than most romance books I read 😭😂 maybe it’s impossible to find the perfect book

    • @CaptainTrasha
      @CaptainTrasha ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@victoriamasters I love the series too 😂 I just giggle every time I read “milking”.

    • @ixeliema
      @ixeliema ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@CaptainTrasha I don't have a "won't read it if it says this" response to "milking" as a term, but it's certainly close...so thanks for the warning lmao.

  • @sarahmellinger2907
    @sarahmellinger2907 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Brownies are a folklore creature from Scottish mythology. They’re little house spirits or hobgoblins that help out with chores.

  • @MeganTHEEcatlady
    @MeganTHEEcatlady ปีที่แล้ว +32

    “Nobody tell my mom I’m reading smut.”
    Me, who lives for drama: 😈

  • @doubleinthedetails
    @doubleinthedetails ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I had a weird crush on Hook when I watched that movie as a kid 😅

    • @hatchet1013
      @hatchet1013 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I mean, it's Jason Isaac's, how could you not?

    • @jasminv8653
      @jasminv8653 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yeah I was expecting rachel to say 'and then i grew up and realised Hook was the hot one' but I guess it wasn't as universal as I thought 😢

    • @themorrigan7702
      @themorrigan7702 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same

  • @jojobookish9529
    @jojobookish9529 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "This is not about plot, it's about penis" may be my new favorite phrase.
    But Ass & Bass is clearly a fishing themed pron mag, and i CANNOT. 😂

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I guess I was a bit older than the target audience for that version of _Peter Pan,_ but I really loved the way that it handled the topic of young teen "blossoming" sexuality, but in subtext rather than something more overtly titillating. It also did really well in staying true to the main themes and plot points of the original novel while still being it's own version of the Barrie story.

  • @katedidier6083
    @katedidier6083 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The idea of dark romance is so appealing to me, but so far, every dark romance I’ve found is just Lust, badly written smut, and taboo subjects. Not actual dark material or themes mixed with romance. It’s so disappointing.

  • @Kochopia
    @Kochopia ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I read books 1, 2, and 3 because I liked the potential of the non-existent plot in this book so much. I thought maybe she would get more plot-centric as she went...she didn't...and I kept telling my partner that I wished someone would re-write this story, but without all the PPs

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  ปีที่แล้ว +60

      She really shows she has the potential in the ideas! I wish she’d dive in and make full length books that really get elbows deep into the lore and plot rather than elbows deep in the… well, you kniw

    • @kariissmol9172
      @kariissmol9172 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I mean... AO3 exists.

  • @lisianto6274
    @lisianto6274 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    oooh i tried reading this one (and it was my first and LAST contact with the dark romance genre) but it felt so much like badly written fanfiction i couldn't read past the pancake scene

    • @jenb3672
      @jenb3672 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is also where I stopped reading.

    • @LilyEvans1996
      @LilyEvans1996 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. Plus I’m not into why choose

    • @lolaluftnagel8251
      @lolaluftnagel8251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree it was too cringy to continue. I’ve read an amazing fanfic called “manacled” though. It’s a beautiful tragic love story between Hermione Granger and Draco Malfoy in which Voldemort won the war and the story was inspired by the Handmaid’s tale. The book has 900 pages but it’s so worth the read.

  • @MrRorosuri
    @MrRorosuri ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Once upon a time was my jam. Why as everyone so hot 😂

    • @hannahbrennan2131
      @hannahbrennan2131 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I had a crush on both Hook and the Evil Queen.

    • @MrRorosuri
      @MrRorosuri ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hannahbrennan2131 🥹🥹🫶

    • @personunknown491
      @personunknown491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely 😁 Hook is definitely my number 1 from the show

    • @annabeatrizzimmermann7708
      @annabeatrizzimmermann7708 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They knew what they were doing introducing Regina as the Evil Queen in a power-pant-suit-cape-dress situation with her hair in a pony tail and bad girl makeup. She was looking hot and mean.
      r

  • @arourallis
    @arourallis ปีที่แล้ว +42

    The Child Thief by Brom is a _muuuuch_ better contender for a 'dark Peter Pan' novel, with the addition of Arthurian myth.

    • @bishielurfer
      @bishielurfer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Brom's books are gorgeous. I love them.

  • @MortMe0430
    @MortMe0430 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    I hear about stuff like this being big on booktok, with its degrading dirty talk and dark edgy activity, and I look over to another chunk of the internet loosing their minds over the ships in Good Omens and Our Flag Means Death, which canonically are full of support, tenderness, and genuine affection (built on engaging interesting characters)... and I wonder where the wires go wonky, where the thread got dropped, who moved the rock, etc. I want to study this phenomena under a microscope with morbid curiosity.

    • @losj3020
      @losj3020 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I think there's very little overlap between the two and I don't believe they really interact? I think it's kinda unfair to compare them lol. Booktok is very niche-based, so I understand why works like this that are more "out there" can get big. It's very much a "you know what you're here for" type of community. GO/OFMD fandoms are based on shows made for general public, so ofc ppl who like it will go crazy over "softer" pairings in canon instead of tiddy slapping
      Also probably unrelated, but as someone who consume/create GO fanworks: the adult side of the fandom is full of kinky bitches too (saying this affectionately). People saw angel/demon snake pairing and I can tell you, there are way darker stuff in the depths (sometimes on the surface tbh) than this. No matter how fluffy the canon is sometimes people really just like that edge lol

    • @losj3020
      @losj3020 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@h2o2630 I can't speak for everyone, but I enjoy dark fiction and sometimes dark romance (though not this one ofc) and the appeal is basically the same as horror, which is somehow a far more socially acceptable thing to enjoy. I personally like the psychological aspect of dark romance where I feel like ppl allow themselves to explore their characters freely without fearing backlash for setting a bad example bc well, dark romance is not meant to set an example, especially for young readers.
      Dark romance also offers a space for ppl to indulge in things that would be dangerous IRL safely since media consumption allows you to opt out of situation whenever you like. It's the ultimate safeword of closing the book and DNF-ing it. It's the same reason why some ppl use it to cope with past SA, where they feel like they're actually in control of the situation. For some folks who are especially repressed the "forceful" nature of the "romance" may allow them to engage in "sinful" behavior without feeling like they're also taking the blame, and it allows them to do so in fiction safely. "Abuse coded as 'love'" is a legit technique in writing a story to understand the victim's perspective and I don't think it should be dismissed.
      Sorry for the long reply but you did say you'd devour a five hour video essay so things got outta hand lol

    • @gokuxsephiroth4505
      @gokuxsephiroth4505 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Having been on booktok, I have to say that I've not seen the same people in both circles. Either they're obsessing about Good Omens (haven't seen Our Flag Means Death, but if it's in the same category as Good Omens, I'm down!), OR they're going mad over this stuff. It's like how there are people who like horror, but supernatural horror people and torture porn people don't tend to overlap so much. At least, that's my experience.

    • @gokuxsephiroth4505
      @gokuxsephiroth4505 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@losj3020 That's very interesting, actually - I never considered that

  • @Goalysgirl
    @Goalysgirl ปีที่แล้ว +117

    You seriously deserve an award for being able to keep a straight face for as much as this review as you did! And when you did laugh, it just added to the review honestly. I am so thankful I put this book back on the shelf when I was at the book store

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Maybe it’s a straight face or maybe it’s 💕dying inside💕

    • @Goalysgirl
      @Goalysgirl ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ReadswithRachel I greatly appreciate you sacrificing your insides for the cause 👍🏻❤️ I do feel bad for how much I snort laughed out loud at your suffering

  • @Samthewise92
    @Samthewise92 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    See I have yet to ever read a dark romance that wasn’t just horrible misyogny and serious lack of consent or boundaries. I get that it’s suppose to be a grey area but I can’t with men that would kill the woman they love cause they just love her so much and that seems to be a theme in almost all of these! 😂 I’m just gonna stick to fantasy that may or may not have smut. Dark romance isn’t for me. The feminist can never leave my body. 😂😂😂

    • @shortinsomniac76
      @shortinsomniac76 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I find toxic dinamics interesting sometimes (like a detective and a serial killer or just two unstable people) but books called Dark Romance are just "he will torture the lead and its sexy"

    • @Samthewise92
      @Samthewise92 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@shortinsomniac76 one of the ONLY dark romances I like are ones where the fmc is the serial killer and the dude is the good guy. 😂 gotta flip the gender expectations for me to be ok with it. 😂

    • @Samthewise92
      @Samthewise92 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shortinsomniac76like the mindfuck series is one of the ONLT dark romances I own. 😂 I own two. 😂

    • @this_Kwazicat
      @this_Kwazicat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tbh I enjoy dark romance only if I can see WHY the person (usually the man) who is fucked up is, well, fucked up. I remember enjoying the visual novel "Diabolic lovers: Haunted Dark Bride" (because there is a whole series of these dark romance vampire games) and enjoying the MOST out there outrageous and unwell male lead of them all just BECAUSE I could see how this all started, how this all affected him and his brothers, how despite all of these issues that 3 of them have they are still SO codependent, he still loves them and listens to them, but also tries to not love ANYONE because that's what their abuser did and it's just ugh so good. Also the fact that HDB has these really good dark endings where you can see that even in "good" ending where female lead seems to be happy with this unhinged man she didn't really "fix him" she, most often, became WORSE with him and FOR him and looking at al of these cycles in which abuse goes is kinda fascinating for me 😂

    • @fatcat1414
      @fatcat1414 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      For me the best dark romances involve the characters doing fucked up things *for* each other and not *to* each other. Not that the relationship itself can't be unhealthy, but it's important for me to feel like they actually love each other on some level.

  • @getgaymin
    @getgaymin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    I can't not read "let's fill her up, brother" in a Hulk Hogan voice XD

  • @bj71000
    @bj71000 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The Sprouse brothers would 100% take this role in a live-action of this book

  • @Tiukuli
    @Tiukuli ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Okay but cloudberry is a real berry, it's from northern europe and grows in a swamp. It's orange and resembles a small, firm raspberry!

  • @andiman44
    @andiman44 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    It’s so cathartic hearing you talk about this travesty of a book 😂 I read the first three and there are truly no words

  • @billiep1603
    @billiep1603 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    As someone who read the original Peter Pan and thought Peter was so annoying and genuinely awful AND thinks kidnapping is bad I don’t understand how this is hot 💀 but also I don’t particularly find men attractive so

    • @flippanties
      @flippanties ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Isn't there a part in the original where its also implied that Peter kills the Lost Boys that start to get too old?

  • @jneeni
    @jneeni ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Oh man, I read this book literally last month. I have many, many regrets.
    At least it was short.

    • @ixeliema
      @ixeliema ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I saw the audiobook length in that brief moment where Rachel showed it on screen and went "dang at least the people who got disappointed didn't waste like a whole day on this"

    • @jneeni
      @jneeni ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ixeliema After the sample she played, I’m so glad I opted for a visual read. 💀

  • @bedivere20
    @bedivere20 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I was today years old when I realized the 1980s movie The Lost Boys was a Peter Pan reference. I only figured it out because of how many times you said Lost Boys in this video and the vampire movie came to mind first. I have never said I'm quick. I'm from the sexy vampire era (Rice not Twilight) not the sexy faerie era, okay?!

  • @suddenlyezra5782
    @suddenlyezra5782 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    As a millenial whose first Fandom was HP... I was not surprised by the twin thing.
    It was not a rare pairing to see some set of twins with a Main Character (self-insert).
    Exposure to this phenomenon has not decreased my squick over it.

  • @becuaseimbored3481
    @becuaseimbored3481 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The thing about peter pan smut is that peter pan's whole THING is that he is a child and will be forever.

  • @bellamoondawn
    @bellamoondawn ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Erotica authors try not to make the FMC barely 18 challenge, GO!

    • @arkkon2740
      @arkkon2740 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Erotical writers make at the very least a sane couple challenge

  • @marionettilapsi1
    @marionettilapsi1 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Cloudberries are yellow berries that look sort of like raspberries that grow in Finland, Sweden, Norway, Russia, and Alaska. I have picked them in the marshlands here in Finland (names for it in finnish: Muurain, Lakka, Hilla) and they are rather sour berries that make a nice jam. (: The berries like a cold and wet climate and can be picked in the fall.

    • @celisewillis
      @celisewillis 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love these berryfacts!

  • @Thatdumbgremlin
    @Thatdumbgremlin ปีที่แล้ว +25

    So, when you played that audio clip, I almost had a conniption because that narrator sounds a LOT like Steve West, who plays Callum in The Atlas Six audiobook, and I looked it up to make sure it wasn’t an auditory hallucination, and it’s not-the narrator for this book is named Shane East, which is still making me giggle. 😂

  • @anysnameever3872
    @anysnameever3872 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Matt Rife being fan cast as Peter Pan is sooo f💀 funny to me for some reason 😂😂😂

  • @erikdaniels0n
    @erikdaniels0n ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Never heard of this book but based on that thumbnail…. Oooh boy, we’re in for a *treat*

  • @rookstory3
    @rookstory3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    OMG I had this on my tbr because someone said it was "the best Peter Pan retelling." I just added it to Storygraph and didn't look into it... I am so glad you did this video, because it is now off my tbr. Yikes

    • @murdermyinsanity
      @murdermyinsanity ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same!! I’ve been circling around this book for a week or two and I’m so glad I kept picking others first. I hate to not finish a book/series so I probably would have stuck through this whole awful thing.

    • @rookstory3
      @rookstory3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@murdermyinsanity I'm the same way, I have only DNF'd one book this year and it took a lot for me to do it!

  • @Kittie9
    @Kittie9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i thought this was about Hooked at first 🤡 why is there so many books about fucking peter pan characters 😭😭😭

  • @jenny5272
    @jenny5272 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It's funny, when I read the title I thought you were talking about the other booktok spicy dark romance Peter Pan retelling. Turns out there's another one.

    • @kendrickdinger
      @kendrickdinger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What other ones are there???

  • @s.k.1603
    @s.k.1603 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Your first few words made me think of a book I read several years ago called Lost Boi. It was a Peter Pan retelling, and I thought it was just like a modern version of it. But no. Wendy was a lesbian, Peter and all the Lost Boys were trans, and Captain Hook and his crew were part of a BDSM sex club. There were "scenes" between Captain Hook in Peter--I just remember one scene where Peter was suspended in the air to make it seem like he was flying. It was a very bizarre book and honestly ruined Peter Pan for me....I'm thinking this book review might also do the same. Who knows?🤷‍♀

    • @shortinsomniac76
      @shortinsomniac76 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is like that guy who watched a hocus pocus porn parody thinking it was a sequel as a kid

  • @jneeni
    @jneeni ปีที่แล้ว +19

    MaybeRec?: I really enjoyed the Coven of Bones duet by Harper L. Woods. It's witch/demon and the smut is more secondary to the plot but, IMO (as a dark romance girly with zero triggers) was written enjoyably and made sense for the book rather than it being forced into the story inorganically.

    • @stormeyedselkie
      @stormeyedselkie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh that sounds good thanks!

  • @SingingSealRiana
    @SingingSealRiana 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    sounds like an amazing set up for a horror story, combining peter pan with nightmare old fairy lore, if only one would have gone with that

  • @That1artsychic
    @That1artsychic ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I was actively eating on my lunch break when you said “and then he spit in her mouth”. Thank god there are people around me or I would have screamed.

  • @felicitypevideos4224
    @felicitypevideos4224 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Oh god I was starting to forget my unhinged behavior in the OUAT fandom. The early 2010s were a wild time.

  • @aster5285
    @aster5285 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hmmm...having a bunch of se.xually aggressive men abuse and degrade our protagonist (except for the two token "nice" ones) and then having it turn out it was actually the few background lady characters were the real evil ones all along. Can we have a spicy book that doesn't treat every other female character as evil rivals to the main girl?

    • @arkkon2740
      @arkkon2740 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just realized that this was a pattern, and a very extensive one too. Kinda makes me think the only reason why these past girls are evil is because in-universe the main girl should have no romantic rivals, and narratively its so the readers dont see them as a greater love interest than the main girl. Its like what Smeyer did for Jacob

  • @Meowlo
    @Meowlo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ....the youth of a boy but the presence of the man? excuse me??? feels very "you're so mature for your age" no thank you
    why choose books aren't for me anyways but this one just seems like...there were definitely some choices made here.

  • @roibenr
    @roibenr ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Appreciate the visuals continuing, it helps jeep track of people. You didnt have to but thank you!

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As a visual learner, I gotta look out for my fellow visual learners ❤️❤️

  • @lawschoolproceeds4402
    @lawschoolproceeds4402 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yep brownies (or brawnies) are a thing in celtic mythology, I know in Ireland they're supposed to be household spirits who would tidy up when nobody was around and you would leave things like cream out as a thank you.

  • @rosesanderson4625
    @rosesanderson4625 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I loathe cliffhangers so I read the first two books that were out at the time and could not give a shit less by the time the next book was out. What sucked me in was the lore. I am so easily taken in by the barest hint of an interesting backstory that I was able to overlook the cringe and stay with it that far. I just can't maintain that curiosity for however long it takes for the next book to come out. Now, if it's a character I'm attached to that's a different story.

  • @theycallmejodamo
    @theycallmejodamo ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Okay. So A.) when you said “My eggs!!” I died laughing. Like picture the girl from the “there I was, bbq sauce on my titties” vine? That was my reaction.
    And B.) let’s be honest. This whole book was written while homegirl’s vibrator was on the charge and the internet was down 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @palamedes4740
    @palamedes4740 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That little text in the thumbnail made me want to bleach my eyes

  • @invadernav3422
    @invadernav3422 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Someone, anyone, please recommend me a GOOD Peter Pan reinterpretation or inspired book. I need to know there's good ones out there!

  • @missanthropy6174
    @missanthropy6174 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Girlie, the titty slap was funny to you? I physically cringed when you said that’s what he did. You gotta be made of Kevlar if that’s funny and not painful for you. I don’t want to even think about someone doing that because of how much it’d hurt me 😟

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I breastfed two kids titty slapping was my life for a while there, lmao. The slaps were the least of my worries 😂

  • @GarnetHeartIllustrations
    @GarnetHeartIllustrations ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Peter, the can’t-go-out-unless-it’s-dark-one 😂

  • @mayz1223
    @mayz1223 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Tiger lily was a more adult retelling of peter pan that i really enjoyed. Its not about the darling girls however.

    • @kendrickdinger
      @kendrickdinger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I read that book in high school and I loved it!!

  • @cheaptadpole
    @cheaptadpole ปีที่แล้ว +6

    finding out that so many people had a crush on peter pan in the movie and not jason isaacs as captain hook is WILD (he's still unbelievably hot) (i will not examine this on any deeper level at all, thank you very much)
    if you ever do a video on non-book stuff, i think a once upon a time retrospective/review might be appeal to possibly only one person (me) but in my mind that's what a hit video is :P

  • @alexh8063
    @alexh8063 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    fully aware this might be a reach but didn't the indigenous people in Neverland feature a character named Tiger Lily? Is that who Tilly is supposed to be?

  • @LinnaAP
    @LinnaAP ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh, I also want a why choose romance that cultivates longing first and then we get to the lust, the order really matters to me here ksksk😅😂

  • @jessfrisk3585
    @jessfrisk3585 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    cloudberries are real! but they grow on mountains. not sure where they got them on and island near the sea

    • @jasminv8653
      @jasminv8653 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They grow in wetlands actually

  • @Bookitty07
    @Bookitty07 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brownies are a type of Fae found in Scottish folklore I think they are more goblin like. I don't know if they are exclusive to that area they were just in a book I read that pertained to scottish folklore. I got really into Kelpies a few years ago.

  • @x-X-PlagueDoctor-Xx
    @x-X-PlagueDoctor-Xx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ha. Bi panic is nothing compared to ASEXUAL PAN-IC

  • @emmor343
    @emmor343 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Not the titty slap! I'm dying. 🤣

    • @Sailormac2
      @Sailormac2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard that and thought of the “GLOVE SLAP! BABY GLOVE SLAP!” Love Shack parody from The Simpsons. “TIT SLAP! BABY TIT SLAP!”

  • @Marie45610
    @Marie45610 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Sexy Peter Pan" creeps me out because I grew up watching Hook, and that other live-action Peter Pan came out when I was in high school.

  • @kjlucky6501
    @kjlucky6501 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was confused about the ages of the lost boys. I think it is mentioned once that everyone stops aging at 18 but they never said that everyone there is 18 and there are tons of lost boys so are some of them younger than 18 and just witnessing all of these very public sexual interactions?
    I also had a hard time visualizing Pan as some brooding badass “daddy” type when he’s literally 18. And I don’t understand why 18?? Who is the target audience here? The fact that it’s basically erotica makes me think that it’s intended audience is adults but then why would adults want to read about teenagers getting it on? I feel like if the author was comfortable with pretty much everything else in the story not making sense, she could have excused away the lost boys aging at least into their early 20s idk

  • @kimilynP
    @kimilynP ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A MUCH better execution of the evil fae cursing each generation of women with mental illness is "Impossible" by Nancy Werlin. No smut. TW: for SA. but its so so good. I read it in high school on recommendation from my English teacher. It's based on the Scarborough Fair ballad.

  • @fairytzarina2466
    @fairytzarina2466 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    From how you've described the main character, it sounds like how I'd like to behave if men werent weird and gross about sex.

    • @fairytzarina2466
      @fairytzarina2466 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No brain cells just sex? Yup sounds like me.

  • @ignaciorlimon1
    @ignaciorlimon1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So the author is really into low budget pr0n (slapping and spitting), plays a lot of Assassin's Creed (memories in DNA/blood), and has a twin fetish (it's more common than you think)? Brownies are a type of fairy or hobgoblin in traditional English and Scottish folklore. They clean and mend things or do chores to make up for not paying rent for living in your home or barn. You're supposed to feed them to keep the goodwill going otherwise they start wrecking things and pulling pranks for being taken for granted. I don't know if the author was expecting people to be versed in folklore or just forgot to write in the lore, so I can't say one way or another. The author may have also been skimming White Wolf's Changeling: The Lost or Changeling: The Dreaming like other authors have done for structure. Either way I'm glad I didn't pick this up when someone recommended it to me. lol

  • @starshapedseal
    @starshapedseal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    that matt rife fancast aged a little *too well* and not in a good way....

  • @sheallyart1233
    @sheallyart1233 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wendy Darling by Colleen Oaks is great and is a trilogy that is a dark romance that doesn’t promote the toxic partner. A great read I read all three books in three days I was so hooked.

  • @moon_shoes
    @moon_shoes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "How do we know he's the bad one? Well he's gonna spit in her mouth for one thing."
    XD So good

  • @artybluegirl
    @artybluegirl ปีที่แล้ว +7

    K. Ancrum is so chaotic gremlin but such a cool person, this video got an instant like the moment you recommended one of her books.

  • @camillagilmore1547
    @camillagilmore1547 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Listen, love, you know I love my wake and bake with you, but you cannot say that you're still looking for your fantasy smit without me once again begging you to read Hunger Pangs by Joy Demmora. Werewolf/Vampire praise kink and some polyam on top.
    Begging. Literal begging is what's going on right now!

  • @Kay-wp8xf
    @Kay-wp8xf ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm an identical twin. I hate how fetishized we are and twins being fetishized in general. Automatic 0/10.

  • @elsiemae4
    @elsiemae4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Maybe it’s not about the plot but the friends she made along the way 😂
    …I’ll see myself out now

  • @Thealgoodsaga
    @Thealgoodsaga 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Are we sure this book wasn’t written by AI??

  • @myspacer
    @myspacer ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I continually got more shocked and it didn't think that was possible as someone who grew up with fan fiction.

  • @anishinaabae
    @anishinaabae ปีที่แล้ว +6

    not you getting a parade sponsor while i'm sitting here watching your video in my parade underwear tho! i just gotta hop in the choir with you and sing their praises cus i love their bras. i'm a 36F/DDD and they make some of the most comfortable wire-free bras i've ever worn! you know i'm about to hop onto their website and use your code so i can get some more... but not before i cringe so hard watching the rest of this video, that i turn into a diamond.

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YESSSS FELLOW PARADE LOVER!
      I’ve been wearing my pink one all day! Twins! Seriously though us with the big titties deserve good bras and I fucking love parade

  • @billuraral1870
    @billuraral1870 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Question: If the Darling women are aware of the hereditary curse, then why they just not have children?

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      QUESTIONS THAT NEED ANSWERS

  • @BaobhanloreArt
    @BaobhanloreArt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ok, I'll admit, I'm into this kind of thing. Stories like these are a closed off safe way to explore these darker themes which relate to my trauma. As a premise, I might like this book, but the execution is just straight up bad.
    Like, it feels like it was written by someone who's only wrighting it for the aesthetic more than actually being into the kink. It's so cartoonish it takes me out of it. From the cover you'd think it might present the neverlandians as twisted and animalistic, needing to feed off pain or so to speak. Like a fantasy horror with maybe a bit of trauma bonding. But this is just boring smut I feel I've seen before a million times with a petrr pan texture pack enabled.

  • @Stu161
    @Stu161 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "READY TO FILL HER UP BROTHER?" -Hulk Hogan 😂

  • @rhysallison8660
    @rhysallison8660 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Better Peter Pan romance: Peter Darling by Austin Chant (trans!Peter Pan romance with Hook). I also still think you would love Cat Sebastian's The Perfect Crimes of Marian Hayes (seriously, read it, discussions around sex, lots of consent, etc) and Freya Marske's trilogy.

  • @minnielanders74
    @minnielanders74 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So, just establishing that the original Peter Pan is a childish airhead at best (🤬 you early era Disney) and a straight up malicious sociopath at worst (🤬 you in particular M. Barrie for writing Peter the way you did)... this was ever only gonna be absolute cringe or slightly smexy nightmare fuel. This from a OUAT fan 😂

  • @vvitch-mist20
    @vvitch-mist20 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I never sit through ads but these bras look promising. I need a new bra and I'm tired of paying a crap ton of money lol.
    20:58
    This is the worst line ever written.