yes contrast paints really show mold lines . other than that you got a really nice result with a fast simple technique . the dry brush at the end pulls it all together , and i've started doing that with my minis . thanks !
Just come across your video. Great results and the archer looks superb. I have been undecided about contrast paints, but you have shown that they can be a great help in speeding up painting. I'll take a look at some more of your vids. Subscribed too 👍
Thanks very much, i really appreciate that 👍😀 I've done a vidwo more re ently where I've sorted out a few of the bits i wasnt sure on back when i did this one th-cam.com/video/tAE_4rEzKgM/w-d-xo.html
The black contrast paint does an excellent job on the armor. I would have painted the wood of the bow lighter myself, but that's a preference. The flesh, however, looks downright unhealthy. It might help to paint a *light* flesh tone on first, like AP Corpse Pale or GW Kislev Flesh, and let the contrast work more like a stain/wash.
Thanks for your comment 👍 ive actually altered things alot since this video including the colour of the bows which is now lighter as straight after this i changed my mind. I agree about the flesh and i started using a pale but warm base quite a while ago as it creates a good foundation you can highlight, i use pallid wytch flesh, if you check out some of the more recent painting videos you'll see it used there along with the varying armour washes 👍😁
Bravo! I am very much greatful for this video, thanks mate. I have plenty of these guys waiting to be painted. I was thinking of using contrast range but somehow I sticked to the usual way. This outcome gave me the motivation man thank you 🍺
Thanks very much. They work well, they are not a cure all but definitely another tool to be used. I've played around with them alot since this vid and sort of refined how I use them, may do an update 👍😀
Nice video! One thing i would say could be improved in my opinion is that the 'studded leather' is actually a brigandine, small iron or steel plates rivited to the inside of sometimes indeed leather, but most often fabric, which when looking at period artwork often had bright colours such as blue, red or green, mixing things up by adding those colours in, in my opinion would make the figures look a bit better and closer to period representations in artwork. But overall nice video, certainly am going to experiment with contrast paints myself soon!
Thanks very much, totally agree with you 👍 This was one of the first videos i think i made on the subject soni kept it simple to do things quickly however since then I've done quite a few in either livery colours or other fairly bright iterations. You can see them nestled away in the units in the showcase videos 👍😁
awesome video, if you put your hand behind the fig it will focus on the figs easier. thanks for the tutorial. it helps to see other people paint. Also, don't use any water before using the contrast paints. they want a dry brush. Hope that helps.
Very good and informative Video. I am going to paint the same Minis on my next project also with contrast paints. On youtube it is hard to find videos with contrast and historical minis like the perrys. Everybody only does the Games Workshop stuff :-(. Can't wait to see more videos like this 👍👌😎
Yeah that's partly the reason for making these videos. I'm planning on doing more videos and will be following up on this one, any suggestions for vids just let me know 👍
"Very basic paint jobs" 😅 .... if I spent a day painting one figure it still wouldn't look anything like him .... Great to watch though absolute class 👏
Thanks for this example. Really like how the technique worked out and the straightforward way you presented the video. Was the face washed out by the lighting in the video? Of all the colors your did the flesh tones seemed to come out much much to pale. Thanks
Thanks glad it was useful.l 👍 to be fair it probably wasn't the lighting. This video is quite old now and the contrast for the face went straight over the primer. I stopped using that flesh colour and switched to Darkoath flesh which gives far greater shadow and mid tones which I then highlight with a basic flesh colour then a warmer colour to finish
Hi I’m thinking of starting a 10mm WoR army as seen on the miniature realms channel. Are the principles of this method the same for the smaller scale ? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks Mark
Hi Martin, was there a more elite type of men at arms, something equivalent to a Saxons Hearth guard or house carls, or were they all of roughly the same quality?
Not in so many words, there was the Calais Garrison who were veterans from France who participated in a couole of battles. There were definitely units that were more veteran than others through the number of battles they took part in. A lord would moat likely have his best men near him. 👍
Would you say Deck Tan is roughly in line with Rakarth Flesh? I'd love to finish my current block of thirty dark ages warriors with that highlighting trick, but I want to make sure i'm not about to ruin all the hard work!
I'd say deck tan is a tad lighter, i tried Rakarth flesh once and wasn't haopy with it but i could be too used to the Deck Tan, maube with a little screaming skull in it 🤔
Thanks, i couldn't remember as i was painting as you find yourself suddenly forgetting small bits and bobs, was one of my first videos a couple of years ago
I used to do 40 x 20mm bases with 2 archers on them but i re based my whole army onto 60 x 45mm bases, i now base them 5 or 6 to a base and arrange them in a non uniform kind of way, you can see the way i do them now in this vid th-cam.com/video/TAqQF5F8nw4/w-d-xo.html 👍😀
I´m new on this and im interested only on medieval wargaming, wich are the best for you? wich one should i select to start with...thanks and cheers from México
Heu, thanks very much for watching. For medieval i would recommended militarum green, snakebite leather, wyldwood, blood angels red, basicanum grey, black templar, skeleton horde and apothecary white. These colours can all be combined and woild be a good starting point if your using contrast. A range of similar colours in normal paints would be useful for highlighting 👍 hope this helps
Yes they do, I'm actually playing around at the minute with different coats of paint over a metallic base. Was you g to do a comparison video as you can get some nice variation in armour colours
I really like your result. I have painted quite a few landsknechts miniatures using contrast paints and even though I a pleased with the result, they do come out a bit too shiny for my taste. leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=122166.15 Your miniature looks more realistic. Can you elaborate on your color choice or could it be your drybrush? Erik
Thanks very much, those models look brilliant, thanks for sharing 👍 i try to use natural tones, building up to bright colours where needed. The dry brush at the end not only helps tone down some of the coloura but also binds it all with the same final highlight, hope that helps 👍
i think you should NOT use contrast for any METAL armor or weapons, b/c it ends up making the whole model look "washed out" and "pale" looking as well as since its not NMM and not Metallic, it doesnt even look like metal armor/weapons, so i think for leathers/ clothes/ robes/ woods/ skins would be great and easy using Contrast/Speed Paint, Metal armor and weapons id use actual Silvers or Golds or Brass's for or either do the actual work required to for NMM, using a grey contrast just DOES NOT look good for metals im sorry to say.
Cheers for commenting. So this video is now 4 Years old, I said in it though that this was just for doing things quickly. IF you want it to look more realistic or GOOD then I would suggest definitely using METALLIC paints which is what I personally (and most people I think) do. This was all just messing about when the contrast paints came out seeing what they were capable of 👍
This is a great example how rank and file minis can be painted quickly with these paints. I love the grey for armor!
Thanks very much, I like the grey armour as I feeling gives it a much more worn and battle used feel
You are the king of contrast paints. The best results I have seen!
Thanks very much, thats very kind 😀👍 I've been playing about with them alot and use them in some way on pretty much everything
@@7thson726 Yes, they are great to use. Have a good day.
Just getting ready to paint my first box of them and I found your channel thanks for the info and short cuts on how to complete them fast. 🙏😇🇺🇸
You're welcome, it's a fantastic period to get into 👍😁
I love these Contrast Painting videos, many thanks!
Glad you like them, cheers :)
Great technique and I love the results! You are an inspiration to this old guy!! Thank you kindly!
Thanks very much, im pleased you like it 👍😀
Nice technique...and beautiful archers!
Cheers, thanks very much
Nice work, you make it look so easy!
Cheers mate 👍😀
I need to get better at remembering to remove mould lines before painting 😁
Probably, but honestly based with a group of other minis on a table you will never notice them.
yes contrast paints really show mold lines . other than that you got a really nice result with a fast simple technique . the dry brush at the end pulls it all together , and i've started doing that with my minis . thanks !
No problem 😀 I have a couple of other colours I use as well but Deck Tan is by far the most common
Me to
So much hype with these paints so great to see how they work out on the sort of historical figures I paint and play with.
That was my thinking, I'm using them regularly but not exclusively, I find they work best when used alongside normal methods 👍
love the idea of the armour with out using metallics I'm going to use that method now for my ECW Figures giving a much better black armour worn look
Glad you found it helpful 😁👍
Very quick,interesting and good. i have these in my collection but unpainted. BB
Thanks, glad you liked it 👍
To reference an earlier comment on a later video.... Contrast paints are a godsend for 10mm scale painting
I bet, ive been tbinking of 10mm ACW and have a few sample packs to test schemes on 👍
Nice job, I picked up a few tips there, especially using Basilicanum Grey for mail armour. 👍
Glad you found some of it helpful 👍
Just come across your video. Great results and the archer looks superb. I have been undecided about contrast paints, but you have shown that they can be a great help in speeding up painting.
I'll take a look at some more of your vids.
Subscribed too 👍
Thanks very much, i really appreciate that 👍😀
I've done a vidwo more re ently where I've sorted out a few of the bits i wasnt sure on back when i did this one th-cam.com/video/tAE_4rEzKgM/w-d-xo.html
The black contrast paint does an excellent job on the armor. I would have painted the wood of the bow lighter myself, but that's a preference. The flesh, however, looks downright unhealthy. It might help to paint a *light* flesh tone on first, like AP Corpse Pale or GW Kislev Flesh, and let the contrast work more like a stain/wash.
Thanks for your comment 👍 ive actually altered things alot since this video including the colour of the bows which is now lighter as straight after this i changed my mind. I agree about the flesh and i started using a pale but warm base quite a while ago as it creates a good foundation you can highlight, i use pallid wytch flesh, if you check out some of the more recent painting videos you'll see it used there along with the varying armour washes 👍😁
Great stuff mate. Will certainly be using more of these from now on.
Cheers mate 👍 glad you like it
Bravo! I am very much greatful for this video, thanks mate. I have plenty of these guys waiting to be painted. I was thinking of using contrast range but somehow I sticked to the usual way. This outcome gave me the motivation man thank you 🍺
Glad to have helped mate, they are a great set
Really nice work! Contrast paints really seem like a good idea for larger armies
Thanks very much. They work well, they are not a cure all but definitely another tool to be used. I've played around with them alot since this vid and sort of refined how I use them, may do an update 👍😀
Nice video! One thing i would say could be improved in my opinion is that the 'studded leather' is actually a brigandine, small iron or steel plates rivited to the inside of sometimes indeed leather, but most often fabric, which when looking at period artwork often had bright colours such as blue, red or green, mixing things up by adding those colours in, in my opinion would make the figures look a bit better and closer to period representations in artwork.
But overall nice video, certainly am going to experiment with contrast paints myself soon!
Thanks very much, totally agree with you 👍 This was one of the first videos i think i made on the subject soni kept it simple to do things quickly however since then I've done quite a few in either livery colours or other fairly bright iterations. You can see them nestled away in the units in the showcase videos 👍😁
awesome video, if you put your hand behind the fig it will focus on the figs easier. thanks for the tutorial. it helps to see other people paint. Also, don't use any water before using the contrast paints. they want a dry brush. Hope that helps.
Thanks very much. It's a bit trial and error but will definitely try that in the next one
Nice paint job! Thank ytou for vid, I need to try contrast paints to paint some NMM :-D
Very good and informative Video. I am going to paint the same Minis on my next project also with contrast paints. On youtube it is hard to find videos with contrast and historical minis like the perrys. Everybody only does the Games Workshop stuff :-(. Can't wait to see more videos like this 👍👌😎
Yeah that's partly the reason for making these videos. I'm planning on doing more videos and will be following up on this one, any suggestions for vids just let me know 👍
Beautiful work!
Thanks very much 👍😀
Very explicite video, thanks. Please can you tell me what material you paste the figure on the bottle to better hold in hand while you paint ?
Thanks very much glad you enjoyed it. Its called Blu Tac 👍
"Very basic paint jobs" 😅 .... if I spent a day painting one figure it still wouldn't look anything like him .... Great to watch though absolute class 👏
Really pleased you like it 👍
Thanks for this example. Really like how the technique worked out and the straightforward way you presented the video. Was the face washed out by the lighting in the video? Of all the colors your did the flesh tones seemed to come out much much to pale. Thanks
Thanks glad it was useful.l 👍 to be fair it probably wasn't the lighting. This video is quite old now and the contrast for the face went straight over the primer. I stopped using that flesh colour and switched to Darkoath flesh which gives far greater shadow and mid tones which I then highlight with a basic flesh colour then a warmer colour to finish
I know your primarily a history buff but can you do a miniatures review on the naiads from kings of war?!
I'd have to have a look at them, I used to play alot of kings of war 👍
Nice
Thanks 👍
Hi
I’m thinking of starting a 10mm WoR army as seen on the miniature realms channel. Are the principles of this method the same for the smaller scale ? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks Mark
Hi there, pretty much, the only thing i would do extra is probably add another highlight to really make the liveries stand out 👍
Hi Martin, was there a more elite type of men at arms, something equivalent to a Saxons Hearth guard or house carls, or were they all of roughly the same quality?
Not in so many words, there was the Calais Garrison who were veterans from France who participated in a couole of battles. There were definitely units that were more veteran than others through the number of battles they took part in. A lord would moat likely have his best men near him. 👍
@@7thson726 Thanks!
Would you say Deck Tan is roughly in line with Rakarth Flesh? I'd love to finish my current block of thirty dark ages warriors with that highlighting trick, but I want to make sure i'm not about to ruin all the hard work!
I'd say deck tan is a tad lighter, i tried Rakarth flesh once and wasn't haopy with it but i could be too used to the Deck Tan, maube with a little screaming skull in it 🤔
It's not 'leather armour' it is a Brigandine, a coat of numerous small steel plates, riveted to textile facing cloth.
Thanks, i couldn't remember as i was painting as you find yourself suddenly forgetting small bits and bobs, was one of my first videos a couple of years ago
How do you base the archers? Four to a base ?
I used to do 40 x 20mm bases with 2 archers on them but i re based my whole army onto 60 x 45mm bases, i now base them 5 or 6 to a base and arrange them in a non uniform kind of way, you can see the way i do them now in this vid th-cam.com/video/TAqQF5F8nw4/w-d-xo.html 👍😀
Yes I see I’ve been watching Hastings to get an idea. I’ve learned a bit from your videos. Thank you.
I´m new on this and im interested only on medieval wargaming, wich are the best for you? wich one should i select to start with...thanks and cheers from México
Heu, thanks very much for watching. For medieval i would recommended militarum green, snakebite leather, wyldwood, blood angels red, basicanum grey, black templar, skeleton horde and apothecary white. These colours can all be combined and woild be a good starting point if your using contrast. A range of similar colours in normal paints would be useful for highlighting 👍 hope this helps
Very cool . Would the contrast paints work over a metallic base coat for the armour ?
Yes they do, I'm actually playing around at the minute with different coats of paint over a metallic base. Was you g to do a comparison video as you can get some nice variation in armour colours
It makes the model look like a 3d watercolor painting doesn't it
Thats a really good way of putting it yeah 👍
Great stuff again- what's your overall opinion of contrast? Are you sacrificing quality for speed or are they now your go-to paints?
I think they have their uses, they speed up basecoating and I think work best when combined with traditional highlighting 👍
I really like your result. I have painted quite a few landsknechts miniatures using contrast paints and even though I a pleased with the result, they do come out a bit too shiny for my taste.
leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=122166.15
Your miniature looks more realistic. Can you elaborate on your color choice or could it be your drybrush?
Erik
Thanks very much, those models look brilliant, thanks for sharing 👍 i try to use natural tones, building up to bright colours where needed. The dry brush at the end not only helps tone down some of the coloura but also binds it all with the same final highlight, hope that helps 👍
A final wash with something not too dark, or with matt varnish, can help with toning down any unwanted shine and also brings out the detail.
i think you should NOT use contrast for any METAL armor or weapons, b/c it ends up making the whole model look "washed out" and "pale" looking as well as since its not NMM and not Metallic, it doesnt even look like metal armor/weapons, so i think for leathers/ clothes/ robes/ woods/ skins would be great and easy using Contrast/Speed Paint, Metal armor and weapons id use actual Silvers or Golds or Brass's for or either do the actual work required to for NMM, using a grey contrast just DOES NOT look good for metals im sorry to say.
Cheers for commenting. So this video is now 4 Years old, I said in it though that this was just for doing things quickly. IF you want it to look more realistic or GOOD then I would suggest definitely using METALLIC paints which is what I personally (and most people I think) do. This was all just messing about when the contrast paints came out seeing what they were capable of 👍
Studded leather 🗿
Good vid tho
Yeah I know haha it was one of my first vids, I went blank 😅