How NBA Jam Achieved Mainstream Success
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 มี.ค. 2024
- Today is March 22nd, 1994!
Welcome to Now in the 90s, where we rewind the clock exactly 30 years ago to see what new video games had just released! This week we had NBA Jam, Dark Wizard, Star Trek: The Next Generation!
Writers: Jared Knabenbauer, David Rota, & Dylan Lawrence
Editor: Dylan Lawrence
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I was in a couple focus testing groups for Dark Wizard at Sega back in the day. They were very concerned about our reactions to the anime art style. My friend and I were two of the only people in the group who even knew what anime was. It was a different time.
Well I’m glad the anime style stayed in. I loved it so much that I was doodling fan art of it when I was like 9 or 10.
This is one of the few games that I owned for my Sega CDX.
I still own my in-box version of the game, and whenever I get a new computer, it's one of the first games I emulate on it so I can play it whenever.
I've had the honor of meeting the NBA Jam announcer himself -- Tim Kitzrow, and he was generous enough to sign my copy of NHL Hitz 2002 on GameCube, one of my childhood favorites. He said his favorite game he recorded for was MLB Slugfest... great guy, really made the atmosphere of the Midway sports games come to life. BOOMSHAKALAKA!
I don't care much for sports games (though I did like hockey games) but my brother had NHL Hitz 2003 on xbox, such a fun hockey game.
Yeah, old creepy Vince McMahon stole all of his lines for "Wrestlemania"
@@DoCKathos NFL Blitz in the same vein
@@kingbaby8761 That guy is just a walking bottle of cocain
I've always loved his announcing in all of the Midway sports games, he's so amazing. The personality he injects into them and the back and forth with other color commentators in the later games is so funny to listen to. It fits perfectly with the madness of what's happening on the field/court/ice. Would be so awesome to meet him like that
Jared: "Its as boring as Chief O'Brien!"
Me: "YOU TAKE THAT BACK ABOUT MY MAN MILES!!!!"
I came here to make the same comment, lol. Don't badmouth Chief O'Brien, the everyman gigachad.
You did NOT just shade my man Miles, the everyman hero! Colm Meaney is a brilliant actor and absolutely made that character.
Fun fact: In continental Europe it was called NBA Marmelade
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Don't feel bad, Dylan. I think your segment is the best part of the show. It's less predictable and I never know what to expect.
I turned 14 on March 28 1994, we were pretty poor when i was a kid. Birthdays were usually small, cheap events. My mom saved up for what must have been months to take me to dinner and bought me Mortal Kombat and NBA Jam for the SNES..
R.I.P. mom, you were and still are the best! ❤
That Tifa comment let us all know that editor Dylan is a man of culture.
NBA Jam was one of those games that even people who don't typically like sports games like me tend to love.
Good lords, Midway from the mid 90s to the mid 00s was such a vibe. I can't think of any game they ported from arcades that wasn't a certified banger. From Jam to Blitz to Gauntlet, they knew how to get my friends over to my house.
Don't forget certified classic hour-wasters in the 90's Rampage games!
As a Mario nerd, I know that one of the red shirts in that Star Trek game is Leslie Swan, who later became the voice for Princess Peach. In fact, I think most of the filler characters are people that were in the video game industry at the time.
Yeah I thought I read an article in a game magazine once that said they were Spectrum Holobyte employees.
I play NBA JAM at the arcade when I was a kid and it's still awesome today. 😀👍🏀🎮
The O'Brien slander is unforgivable.
He was so awesome they put him in DS9.
O’Brien is the man, especially in DS9
Scrolled to the comments to say this. How DARE he? lol
"...perhaps the most important person in Starfleet history, chief Miles O'Brien" Lower Decks S01 E03
That was my first thought but I think he might be referencing the web comic.
WOOOOOO DARK WIZAAAAARD! Been waiting for this game to be covered :D
Easily my favorite Sega CD game, by a pretty wide margin.
Being able to play as Jordan was one of those myths that was all over the place when NBA Jam came out. There were people who claimed they played an arcade version with him, or that a code existed.
There was an arcade version that had MJ&Gary Payton as a duo.. think they were on the all star team
Pretty sure the first cabinets that came out in major markets like Chicago and New York did in fact have Jordan, but they removed him before the majority started shipping out everywhere else.
So there were some cabinets that had Jordan as a player on the Bulls
This man did not just call the most important man in Starfleet history boring.
O'BRIEN SUFFERED FOR ALL OUR SINS!
Finally someone talks about dark wizard and how amazing it is. Sure, it's outdated, but being one of the earlest trpgs released.
10:46 "G** JAMMIT!"
11:07 "HIDDEN JAM ALERT!"
13:03 "The 90's equivalent of Five Nights at Freddy's."
For me was so frustrating that MJ, Shaq and Barkley were not on NBA Jam but instead on crappy games like Chaos in Wind City, Shaq Fu and Shut up and Jam.
You’re wrong, Charles Barkley IS in NBA Jam.
Shaq&Barkley were in the arcade versions, No Shaq in home console editions.. Barkley was in early copies of nba jam though
MJ&Gary Payton were a duo in arcade version but thats rare to find, some has to have that machine&video out there
This show is great, absolutely enjoy the back and forth with Jared and Dylan.
TBH - I prefer TE over OG version of NBA Jam 🥰
Everybody did. It was the far superior version.
I don't, but that's due to nostalgia
Hangtime is far and away the best, however the only problem is the lack of Tim Kitzrow.
@@karnovrpg close 2nd to me
TE the goat
OMG DARK WIZARD THANK YOU JARED FOR NOT OVERLOOKING IT!!!!!
30 years have passed and NBA Jam is still sitting on the throne of the most cool/badass sports games of all time 🏀
Chief O'Brien is a saint, and I will have none of your foolishness.
That was my first thought but I think he might be referencing the web comic.
Cardissan propaganda
He never got the recognition he deserved.
he's still _boring._ I think he'd be proud of that. There's an old Irish curse "may you live in interesting times."
@KairuHakubi he certainly lived in interesting times and was cursed for it.
I meant to say this way sooner, but when you briefly covered Normy's Beach Babe o Rama a while back, I wanted to mention that the creator was apparently just a small time comic artist who sadly passed away several years ago. God rest his soul for giving a game about saving cute girls from evil forces.. and working with EA along the way
"EA Bad !"
I hate that people just mindlessly parrot this. EA hasn't always been the same company and for a good while they made decent to great games. They were one of the first that credited actual developers and took chances. They were (mostly) good until the 7th generation of consoles.
Even now people just mindlessly hate on EA. The latest Battlefront 2 ports have been blamed on them when they have nothing to do with them. They have done much to deserve the hate but currently their games have been decent and have lacked micro transactions for a few years. The most egregious thing EA has done is released some games that were good but not optimized for PC.
You have been conditioned.
Oh hey! Star Trek: TNG! I actually have this for the Sega Genesis. I would often play this up to wherever it takes you through the mining area. Trying to traverse through it was so daunting at the time... My dad had beaten it before, and I would often load up that save file just to see how it ended. lol
The Bulls handicap hidden cheat was hilarious 😂
Not close to a basketball fan bit loved NBA jam!
The Star Trek game was so hard as a kid. There were a ton of puzzle based sub-games through the course of it. I never got past finding the whole mining crew on the absolute MAZE that the planet was. The starship combat was awesome. We'd set a course across the galaxy at warp one with the challenge of fighting every time we were pulled out of warp with no stopping as long as the engines weren't damaged. Very awesome game!
Not only was it a maze, the air and other stuff.
Aw the Chief O’Brien shot was uncalled for 😂! Homeboy is an icon.
I played NBA Jam for the Genesis all the time, the secrets were really cool. The Sega CD version had more secret characters
I preferred the Genesis version above all others because it was the only home console version that featured Charles Barkley.
8:40 - Ah, he said the thing! Roll credits!
3:17
He does it pretty much every episode. Two times in one video is a bit much, tbh.
Fond memories of Playing NBA Jam on a tiny TV in my friends lounge while we had MTV going on his parents big TV. The 90s was a great time to be a kid.
NBA Jam was successful for two reasons.
#1. It was fun.
#2. Gameplay was accessible to everybody. It was a pick up and play game that anybody could play.
Dark Wizard was my first SRPG, which led to Shining Force 2 afterwards, and I loved those games so much.
Crazy to see NBA Jam on the covers of magazines, that game was the definition of a phenomenon - no way would a sports game get that much attention across the whole medium nowadays.
My mom had a store about a mile from the local arcade.. I use to walk there just to play nba jam on the arcade.. I remember the hype of it being brand new. Everyone played it. I remember having to wait in line just to play.. Nba jam and mortal kombat 2 was hott..
Never liked basketball till nba jam
6:35 I loved Mario Andretti Racing on the Genesis. People didn't seem to realize that was a sim game. NBA Jam on the Genesis was excellent imho. The blocking was simplified, but that made it way easier to control.
All the secret characters and being on fire made NBA Jam iconic! Such a good game. It wasn’t until NFL Blitz that I got hyped on another sports game in the same way.
They did a good job licensing NBA Jam for the 1UP cabinets. Only a handful of players- including longtime licensing holdouts Charles Barkley and Reggie Miller- are absent. They got nearly everybody. Even Shaq- who was in the first release but removed from later revisions for the same reasons as Jordan- is back.
Reggie is in NBA Jam tho
These have been the highlight of my week. I look forward to them each time, thank you very much.
I meet Tim Kitzrow every time he comes to town. He likes to take pictures with me and my kids every time. He made a voicemail message for me and I will probably use it forever. He is an amazingly nice and charismatic guy.
One of the most interesting things about this show is the prices! When AAA games went up to $70 from $60 in the last year or so people freaked out (not without reason, inflation sucks). But seeing that some games used to cost $75 or even more, back in the 90's, it feels a little less bad, lol.
Now hang the heck on, Dylan.
You're gonna tell me a game
whose title
is Jammit
is a HIDDEN Jam Alert?
NBA Jam is such a classic, never even played basketball or know how to play it but me and my brother loved going at it against each other in all the madness and funny announcer lines.
Truth be told, my basketball game I played a ton on Genesis was College Slam. I can't remember if it had the same announcer as I do remember them going, "HE'S ON FIRE!" but not if it's the same as in NBA Jam.
My cousin and I did play Jam on his Saturn or Sega CD(cannot remember which), and used codes to get Will Smith & Bill Clinton playable, and whenever Will would shoot his shot, the Announcer would go, "FRESH!" cause that's what Will was known for at the time.
"It's as boring as Chief O'Brien."
Thems fighting words!
Dark Wizard was one of my favorite Sega CD games growing up. I actually played through all four storylines just to see the differences between them. If I remember correctly, there wasn't much difference gameplay-wise between the four, but there were differences in what units you had access to. There might've been more differences but it's been YEARS since the last time I played it, so it's hard to remember everything about it.
I spent a lot of time on NBA Jam when my friends came over. I had the SNES multitap as well, and my friends would just bring extra controllers so we always could play.
Dark Wizard was and still is one of my favorite games on the Sega CD. Because I wasn't ever able to beat it back then, it's been placed in my "retirement bucket list" alongside Ogre Battle and Tactics Ogre, all slated to be 100% completed before I leave this mortal coil.
One of the Loudest Arcades back in the 90's along with other Midway Cabinets, part of the BBall Culture
NBA Jam and Dark Wizard in the same week. I don't know which to talk about.
Dark Wizard was a little beyond me at that time, but I really appreciate its depth and RPG-ness today. There's hidden treasures, different class upgrade paths, special unit combinations, a hidden ninja village, quests that will take you from town to town, and some unique quests and units for each of the four possible leaders. You can have your leader stand back at base, deploy your army carefully into battle, and support them with awesome magic spells, or you could be the most badass of warriors and lead a small band directly into the enemy's stronghold and take it over. You have to be on *A* castle tile to deploy troops, but it doesn't have to be *YOUR* castle tile. Similarly, you can spend your own units to raise the dead, or a nearby goat no matter who owns it.
Glad to see someone else appreciated Dark Wizard.
*fist bump*
The relationship and banter between Jared and Dylan is becoming just as classic as the style of the show. Keep up the great work guys!
Shining Force is a huge favorite and Dark Wizard looks like a neat try. Definitely had no clue about that. Thanks so much for all the awesome games every week! I love reliving this era.
NBA Jam was great, but I loved the changes they made in NBA Hangtime. Making a custom character and seeing them get better through the season. Alley-oops, and the ability to "bail" from a dunk to a layup, gave a lot more options. Plus even more crazy dunks.
You completely missed the fact that in Jammin, you can smash your face off of the pole and fall on the ground simply by running into it. That's my only memory of this game, doing that endlessly and laughing hysterically. That *DOONK* sound is forever in my head.
We get a good sports game and Dylan doesn't review it? 😂
Thank you for bringing so much joy to my Fridays!
I like that when Dylan is talking on Jareds screen it sounds like he's locked in the basement screaming up.
I've been looking forward to this! My Birthday week! Let's see what ya got for me Jerd!
90’s sports games just hit different. They use to take chances and they would feel unique before EA just brought the rights to them all and turned it into one homogeneous mess. Remember when EA brought the rights to NFL Blitz and just turned it into an even buggier version of Madden? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
You talking about Blitz the League right??
@@oceano87no blitz the remake…
Actually Furing ps2 the EA sports BIG titles where awesome…
YES! I love Dark Wizard. This was mind blowing as a kid.
Especially love the writing lately guys! Hang in there Editor Dylan!
By far the best review show. Fresh and rad !!
Loving this format and channel. Keep up the good work guys!
NBA Jam was everyone's jam even if you hated sports. It was just.. splendid. And so nicely streamlined down, no other sports game was just a quick simple 2 on 2 where you could quickly run across the entire field like that.
5:44 god i miss when 'anime games' looked like this, instead of the horrors we get now.
13:38 I feel ya dawg. Im staring down the Gold Saucer right now in my playthrough and Im looking at Tifa vs Aerith's happy meter like "Oh no I fucked up, I was to nice... TO RED!?"
FINALLY, a Dark Wizard mention. Wow, this game was great. I loved it, and it made my Sega CD puchase worth it.
There's actually an in-house ROM hack of NBA Jam for SNES titled "NBA Jam XXX". It's basically the same game but with Tim's commentary replaced with more vulger alts like "Grabs his Johnson!" and "HE'S ON FUCKING FIRE!"
Apparently, this stems from a scrapped plan to have an "Adult Mode" in the arcade NBA Jam that would have profanity in the commentary. The only other remnant of this is a clip in NBA Jam TE of Tim shouting "GET THAT SHIT OUTTA HERE!" Of course the NBA rejected this, even after censoring the line, so it was cut out instead. Tim denies ever recording any profanities, but the fact these lines exist, it's likely just to cover himself as he does sometimes do commentary officially.
The Chief O Brian slander is too damn high.
The NBA Jam commercial. Just pure nostalgia and still one of my favorite arcade games along with T.E. edition.
Now just being reminded how I used to have a Jam TE snes cart where I managed a perfect season with the Orlando Magic. The final five or so official teams were brutal by that point, given the cheese the A.I. is now infamous for, but a save file for the ages. Wish I still had that cart, now.
*Update* before I forget, I did want to share that I also was able to attend a game dev panel meeting some years later, and who would be the guest of the session? *Mark freakin' Turmell!* Have to admit, once I got some time to actually talk to him, he certainly felt like an honestly chill bro, and 100% glad to have met him that day. 5/5, no notes.
Jamming with ProJared as he jams about NBA Jam.
Another great Friday! Now in the 90's
Been waiting on NBA Jam! Boom Shakalaka!
Holy crap that Star Trek ad with the "your face here" just time warped me back to reading EGM on my couch while watching Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers after school.
I love how this show tickles long-dormant parts of my brain.
Gotta love the fact that NBA Jam’s existence inherently spawned Charles Barkley’s Shut Up & Jam,
Which itself ended up (unofficially) spawning Barkley: Shut Up & Jam-Gaiden,
Which almost got a sequel.
The way things go spiralling downward from normal,
To knockoff,
To twisted fan made game with a wicked theme song…. I love it
Never heard of Jammit before, and those street/suburban locations are pretty appealing to me.
I might have to try it sometime, even if it's no NBA Jam.
I used to own "dark wizard" for the Sega CD. I was never good at strategy RPG games (still ain't) but the soundtrack and the cutscenes were awesome. I'd watch them just for that! 🎹🎧👌
Wing Commander is a bit more WWII flight sim in space than Star Wars (no force, no jedis), but wait until next year when Wing Commander 3 comes out on the 3DO. Not played that version but if it's like the PS1 you'll enjoy some cutscenes with... Mark Hamill, amongst several other actors.
Yeah, both the 3DO and PSX versions of Wing Commander 3 were directly ported from DOS. They're all basically the same game.
Thought I was going crazy "didn't they just have star trek on last week?" Nope that was SNESDrunk.
Lay off the SNES dude.
Real talk, it is a pretty funny coincidence.
SSSnnNnNnnNnNNNNNnnnnES DRUNK!
Deja Vu....
Would love to see Dark Wizard rereleased, it looks great!
The Sega Genesis version is the game that actually got me into the NBA.
NBA Jam and Star Trek: TNG are two of my most favorite games for the Genesis.
"nothing, but net!" 😅
This year things are getting super interesting, I can't wait for some of the releases to come and next year also :)
The insolence! You take that back sir, Miles O'brien is an absolute legend and a hero of the federation well once he got his yellow shirt anyway 😂
Truth!
Hidden Jam Alert. Double Switch had an amazing 90s song in the middle of the game that is stuck in my brain. I think it went "Seen your face in the movies..."
That game was cheesy and fun if you like FNAF like gameplay without jump scares.
I literally had no idea the gold saucer date could be anyone but Tifa (just got there last night). That makes me feel amazing I got her for the date! Thanks Dylan
a now in the 90s vid on my birthday, how fun
NBA JAM was the Jam back in the day. I played the heck out of it back in the day.
Hey, Jared.
I'm an archivist of some sort, so I love these videos of yours. DKC is one of the greatest games of all-time. So everytime you mention it, I'm only reminded of it's greatness.
I was 9 yrs old enjoying the wonder days of the 90s
OMG I love Dark Wizard! I remember renting that game constantly (sometimes even dealing with late fees) because I was wanting to finish the game(which I did with the prince). Ended up buying it which made it the 2nd Sega CD game I bought. Still own and play it today
NBA Jam still holds up to this very day! Wish they can make another one with today's players! That would be awesome!
You did *not* just drag my boy Miles O'Brien. Them's fightin' words.
The cool sounds coming from the arcade cabinet was the best marketing
i loved dylan's tangent into his issues messing up the dating quest at the gold saucer for ff7 lmaooo
Love me some NBA Jam! Let's go!!!
Oh my God thank you for covering NBA jam.! I used to have NBA jam tournament edition and I used to play that game every single time I got home from school also I played WrestleMania the arcade game but I can't wait until you cover that
I still cannot believe that NBA Jam in the SNES has NO MUSIC during the court playing time, yet the Mega Drive version DOES. And this is includes the Tournament Edition versions as well! Even the bloody Game Boy has music during the court time! How did they screw that up that the SNES has NO MUSIC during court time?!
They programmed the game in such a way that they couldn't fit both the music and the voices into audio ram at the same time.
Dark Wizard ...the nostalgia! Deff on my top 5 games.
3:37 And also... ,"SWEET."