The Censorship of Porky Pig: Wholly Smoke
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- The Censorship of Porky Pig: Wholly Smoke
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Mel Blanc was a genius.
The thought of Mel Blanc's tombstone having "That's all folks!" fills me with joy. 😊
I like Rodney Dangerfields tombstone, it says "There goes the neighborhood!"
@bigal1863 Actress Joan Hackett has one that goes, "Go away, I'm asleep." Peter Falk "just one more thing."
I feel blessed being able to see most of everything before it was censored.
Most of these cartoons were on cheap VHS tapes back in the 80s and 90s uncut and aimed at kids.
Before his death, the late Mel Blanc spoke at my alma mater, William Paterson University, located in the Township of Wayne, Passaic County, New Jersey, about 20 miles west of New York City (Manhattan). 👌
Did he do any cartoon voices?
When I was a film student at Los Angeles City College in 1970, Mr Blanc spoke to a huge auditorium class for 90 minutes to 2 hours. He included clips from some WB cartoons. And yes, he sure did. All his character voices. We were rolling in the aisles laughing so hard it was painful, almost. What a beautiful guy.
@@HootOwl513That is amazing! You got a chance to speak with the voice of Daffy, Bugs, Tweety, Sylvester, etc?
@@abnowacky I don't remember if I asked Mr Blanc any questions myself. [I was mostly in awe.] He did answer several questions from students. I was impressed by what a down-to-earth guy he was, and how generous he was speaking to a small auditorium of college kids. I don't know if the School paid him any stipend or fee. [It would have been ''peanuts'' on a Hollywood level. ] I got the impression he did it out of the kindness of his heart. At the end of his presentation, he got a standing ovation from the House.
@@HootOwl513 I was suprised to hear Blanc smoked a pack of ciggarettes every single day since age 9, as he aged so well. He must’ve had very good genetics. I also find it interesting that Daffy Duck is the first character he did the original voice of. I know he also did the voice of Porky in “Porky’s Duck Hunt” (1937) but the original voice was Joe Dougherty who Blanc managed to mimic very well. Also wonder if he showed the full process of how these cartoons were made? I know they would put cels on top of background sheets of paper but I don’t understand the rest? How did they synchronize the sound so well? Sorry, i’m acting very excited and asking a lot of questions because you’re someone who met the legend.
Looney Toons/Merrie Melodies are absolute classics. 👌
Nothing should be censored at all! The past should always be scene, the good bad and ugly!
Right on! Each family should have the responsibility to censor anything they want themselves, meaning that no one else should be allowed to censor anything.
@@mudvalve you mean like how parents monitor cell use. And how's that going???
@@jacklong7048 yes, I hear you. I know what you mean, but my main concern here is that the censoring shouldn’t be in the hands of someone else outside the family unit. No one can make the decision what’s best for the family other than the family, even if they don’t exercise their duties to censor!
Maybe there should be daytime censorship for the kids (as long as it's not drastic), and nighttime (mostly) uncensored for the adults with educational tidbits before/after the episodes? That is, if we're still playing these cartoons today on cable TV or something?
seen scenes
They won't show the original, uncut cartoons? I'M OFFENDED!!!!
No one with any sense is looking to Loony Tunes as a guide to life. It’s just _entertainment_ that was “of its time”. Thus, there’s no need for censorship of any kind unless you’re thin-skinned & just can’t handle anything.
A "thin skin" or "not being able to handle anything" is only said by people who are incapable of feeling what others feel and can't relate or muster up any sort of empathy. In other words: Sociopaths.
@@theothertonydutch Source for your assertion?... you made the claim, back it up.
@@theothertonydutch Grade A hypocrisy & a great demonstration of projection. That’s a strawman & ad hominem. I accept your surrender.
I would love a part two. This is fascinating stuff!
I used to watch a lot of these cartoons and I wouldn't mind hearing about what happened to Porky (and also Petunia) in a future episode.
history should never be rewritten to hide historical facts that may offened the weak, we forget the past mistakes we are doomed to repeat them.
I fail to see how Porky reminded anyone of Our Gang. He always seemed a characyer unique to himself.
That was only for the initial "I haven't got a hat" cartoon. Multiple new characters were introduced in that short like Beans the Cat, and all were aged up for later appearances. Porky proved to be the best of the lot and THE biggest Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies character early on.
Warner Archive put out a great DVD collection called PORKY 101 a few years ago, it's the first 101 Porky cartoons in release order. If I remember correctly they are all uncensored too.
The original plan was to create a handful of shorts featuring Porky with Beans (a play on "pork and beans"), with Beans being the lead character and Porky the side character, but the animators and audiences seemed to like Porky more. The opening to "I Haven't Got A Hat" in which it shows irised-in shots of individual characters - Beans, Oliver Owl, Porky, and others - is reminiscent of some of the "Our Gang" films.
Spanky McFarland was the token Obese Kid in the ''Our Gang'' -- ''Little Rascals''* comedy shorts series. [ * In the '50s Juvenile Delinquency became a social issue, and the word Gang took on ominous overtomes it didn't have in the 1930s.] Anyway Porky and Spanky played similar characters, and were the butt of many Fat Guy jokes.
So Porky not wearing pants and looking naked from the waist down was never brought up by censors?
why its a pig...lol guess we need to dress all animals ...lol
I guess the Karens don't watch cartoons. Yet.
Back in the day, a single item of clothing is all you needed.
Look at Yogi Bear or Even Bugs Bunny who wears only white Gloves.
@Mrcharrio but Porky has flesh colored skin which makes it more obvious than Yogi or Bugs
@@otpyrcralphpierre1742I'm a Karen and I love the classic cartoons. My favorite was pepé Le Pew.
Censorship sucks!
I honestly think Porky's later, character actor stage was his best. "Happy birthday you thing from another world, you," is one of my all-time favorite lines.
I’m sick of censorship artists should be able to portray people anyway they want no matter who it offends.
Those who choose to ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
I remember seeing the uncut short, in black and white, on Cartoon Network in the early 90s. I had forgotten the music until seeing this, then it all came flooding back to me.
0:33 Porky Pig had a coin slot, like he was a piggy bank. 😂
These should never be censored. People are too sensitive and weak now
Censorship has gone too damn far.
Africa Squeaks is also censored
5:47 That looks redrawn. You can tell with the jerkyness. The Computer Colorized version still has them black.
The only thing Needind Censuring are the Cencors themselves
No, racism IS wrong
So glad I grew up in the 80's and was able to watch all these cartoons before they were changed. I remember even being able to watch the WWII era propaganda cartoons.
Great stuff! Brings back fond memories! Too bad society's gone mad! Today's entertainment is basically propaganda.
I think censorship should come with a trigger warning.
Wish there was a cartoon lampooning Cartoon Censurers!!!
South Park?
@@NinjaRunningWild If anyone would, South Park sounds right. Know which episode?
😲Holy smokes, and I do mean HOLY SMOKES! I had totally forgotten about that old Porky Pig short!!
As I watched this video, I started to remember having seen "Wholly Smoke" in school as a child. I couldn't tell you what grade I was in or how old I was when I saw it, because I can't remember, but I knew I've seen the short, just not in an extremely long time!
😃This video was very fascinating, especially when it reminded me of a Porky Pig short I had completely forgotten about, and thanks to it, it brought it all back! 😄 Thank you, RerunZone!!! 😎
"A nickel? Half a dime? One twenteth of a dollar? (Hepburn voice ) Reahhly?"
The unedited version aired in syndication on Xetv San Diego, up till 1981, when cab caloway part was edited. This one not yet aired on METV as of yet, but could be in the process of being reedited for the network. Love to hear one bugs Bunny's first Looney tune, that said inspired Sam from the design.
A part 2 of this would be nice.
"Who, uh uh who, uh who are you?" "Why, I thought all smokers knew me. My card" Nick O'Teen.
Thank you. This stuff drives me nuts. Look, I saw this cartoon ages ago, you ain't foolin' me. Saw where Disney is trying to edit out every picture of Walt smoking a cigarette. Good luck with that, Mickey!
The Clips From This PSA Is Just Weird Since It’s From the 30s
I watch the old cartoons on video tapes and DVDs and see the things censors removed and I'm like I saw this uncut in the 60s and now over 60 years have past and it's a no no. We have went backwards instead of forwards.
Poor Porky. Nobody told him cigar smokers don't inhale.
“Racist stereotypes!” Oh, no! Help me to my fainting couch.
Yeah they are funny, unless your the ones stereotyped.
@jacklong7048 Everything and everybody is stereotyped, get off your high horse
The Last time I struck a match, the match head did indeed turn from white to black.
@@jacklong7048 I get it, but as a kid with a severe stutter, it never occurred to me be offended by Porky Pig. I understand why the old Tom and Jerry cartoons were redone for the kids, but late at night with suitable disclaimers, let's see the real thing. History is a dirty business, but 'it never happened' is trying to whitewash (no pun intended) American history. I'm 65. Arkansas native. You folks have absolutely no idea. Still trying to convince folks, yes, it really was that bad (far worse actually) and yes, it is still everywhere.
@@broken927 Did the matches also have exaggerated stereotypical features and sing like they were a Black group?
Porky's son of a gun clip is my all time favorite.
I remember watching these uncut in the 90's🤯😂
I loved me some Porky Pig stutter 😂❤❤❤
I was in Asia in 1989. It was late and a rickshaw took me home. I don't think the puller thought it was racist. He appreciated getting paid.
More about the pig please ! "China Jones" is going to be on the third blu-ray set of Looney Tunes collecters series.
Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies caricatured everyone, that was part of the comedy. I don't recall them ever censoring the Irish, Scottish, German, French, etc., stereotypes. And Americans too. Yosemite Sam is certainly a stereotypical caricature, as is Elmer Fudd, among many others. As someone of Scottish and Irish descent (and some German and other things too), I could certainly take offense at some of those portrayals... if I had a big stick up my ass. Thankfully I do not.
Apparently it's ok to make stereotype jokes about white people. Which I am fine with. Maybe everyone should lighten up a bit too.
There's a Merrie melodies episode with porky where he plays a character porkykarkus? I think it was a parody of Spartacus.... The opening background music is one of Chopin's nocturnes, moonlight sonata?
Thanks for the post!
It was a parody of a character named "Parkyakarkus," a Greek chef played by comedian Harry Einstein, also known as Harry Parkes. He was the father of comedians Albert Brooks (whose real name is Albert Einstein!) and Bob Einstein.
Ahhh, I remember the first time I tried tobacco and woke up after an intense drug trip in a tobacco shop. Only difference was that when Porky woke up the store owner was still alive.
As a kid, I would always say the word Porky was trying to say before he would say something else
There was a short clip made (not for general consumption) in which the "something else" was somewhat off-color. (I don't want to spoil it. It should certainly be included in part 2.)
Thank you!💯😮👍
I am 70 and I still love these cartoons.....and people have no right to censor any of these iconic cartoons
Everybody's afraid they'll offend someone.
Part two, please!
...Says this animation history geek!
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Part 2? Yes, please!
I was so young when I saw that episode that I didn't know what blackface was.
Funny that there is such an early anti-smoking episode.
Back in the 80s during the Night Flight show, they'd sometimes show a clip of Porky accidentally smashing his hand while hammering a nail. He stuttered 'son of a b..b..b' before saying 'son of a gun', only to laugh and turn to the viewer saying 'you thought I was going to say son of a b****'. Hearing Porky swear was definitely an attention grabber, but I have no idea where it had originally come from. The voice is exact through the entire clip so I strongly doubt it was dubbed.
Don’t get me wrong. I love Wholly Smoke. I thought it was a great cartoon. It’s also education as well. I just didn’t know that it was censored for completely different reasons and not because it’s gonna spread the wrong type of messages for kids to keep on smoking.
Carl Stalling was a genius in his own right. He had an entire library of music at his disposal to use to his discretion. While we're mostly familiar with the classical music being used, Stalling also used popular music of the era. In some cases the lyrics were changed to match the action of the cartoon; in other cases, only the tune was used because it fit the scene perfectly.
The song used in "Wholly Smoke" has original lyrics, but is not an original tune. The tune is "Mysterious Mose", which first appeared in a 1930 Betty Boop cartoon of the same name, and has been performed by numerous artists, most notably Ted Weems and Harry Reser.
Porky's stutter wasn't inspired by his first voice actor. After Blanc officially became the permanent voice of Porky, he would say in interviews, Blanc would say that he intended Porky's stutter to be suggestive of the grunting of actual pigs.
Censorship because of “feelings”…
People got a lot of wimpy feelings today.
Thank you.
With the 'racism' aspects of many of the old cartoons, we should be using them as teaching moments for the children of today, showing such cartoons modified and washed out, they don't carry the same messages as they originally did.
Part 2, part 2!
Another vote for a sequel
I often wondered why Porky was never featured during the intro of "The Bugs Bunny Show" later "Bugs Bunny Roadrunner Hour"?
As a Native American myself I get so mad when they cut any clips in animation or early films that show or depict any Native American tribes or Indians exaggerated or not because of so called racism. Somehow completely erasing us from all film is considered better somehow I'm told. Like current day advertising and sports team Logos being removed because it somehow offend certain people oddly though those are not Native American people because we seem to be the last ones that are ever consulted or asked about this if at all. Most of the people on the Banning of these mascots and logos don't realize that native tribes have deals worked with these teams that provide money for the use of these logos that helps schools children and women shelters but that's not as important as hurt feelings of non Native people.
Porky Pig is one of my favorite Looney Tunes characters and I especially love when he teams up with Daffy Duck. Censorship wise, cartoons shouldn’t be censored as they need to be seen as they were originally intended; the cartoons should be explained about why such stereotypes existed, that said stereotypes are and were wrong to do so, and that by censoring such things; you’re pretending that they never existed and those stereotypes could easily come back and be significantly worse than they were before.
Mel Blanc did reduce Porky's speech impediment in later toons
Ive ALWAYS loved Looney Tunes/Merry Melodies cartoons. Im very surprised that those who have a stuttering affliction don't complain to say its wrong or a cartoon character is making fun of it. BUT Porky and his stuttering speech-gimmick is iconic.
Nothing like changing history just for the complainers !
Those old cartoons were harmless entertainment but today "we cant have such things" in this humourless society , what a shame !
Its sad to me that a few peoples thin skinned feelings is more important than allowing future people to experience history.
part II please!
How bad is the censorship?
He used to be Spanky Ham...
A few things that went through my mind as I watched this:
While Cartoon Network edited out the blackface match heads, the Cab Calloway character could still be seen near the end of the dream sequence when several characters from the hallucination are superimposed in a montage. (The standalone appearance was cut altogether.)
The song from "Wholly Smoke" was sung to the tune of "Mysterious Mose", a popular novelty number of the time.
Mel Blanc reprised Porky's stutter for the "new character" of "Zooky" in his 1947 radio show.
Porky getting chased by the freaking Globglogabgalab.
The four matches were supposed to represent the Mills Brothers, just as the pipe cleaner becomes Cab Calloway. One drawback of this kind of censorship is that very often what's being cut is caricatures of the famous Black performers of the day, which seems more offensive in the long run, as if viewers aren't supposed to know or remember them. The so-called blackface had more to do with the limits of character design in the black and white days of animation, so many 1930s cartoon characters being based on the Felix the Cat-Mickey Mouse model.
I tell you what I think of censorship: parents are responsible for censoring what their kids see and adults are responsible for censoring their own content. If I feel it's going to offend me I don't watch it, I don't want someone deciding for me when I watch or don't watch. I outgrew that
This looks familiar. I think my sister and I might have seen this, either on Cartoon Network or Nickelodeon, back in the day. It was pretty weird, but then again, so was the "One Beer" episode from Tiny Toon Adventures. Clearly, older cartoons had often become pretty dark, when trying to promote any kind of a message. But if these cartoons become banned, then you're ignoring a part of our history.
Porky's physical similarity to Elmer Fudd is uncanny. Was one an offshoot from the other???
They had that small clip of the leprechaun. That should be censored! It’s being racist towards leprechauns.
Wholly Smoke was supposed to be anti-smoke cartoon, but Porky's halluscinating makes it an ideal anti-drug cartoon as well
Porky Pig also ending the film "Who´s Framed Roger Rabbit" alongside Disney´s Tinkerbell.
Does anyone ever remember the smash climax of "Porky's Romance" 1937, by Frank Tashlin? 'Bluey' fans would likely not care for that scene, as it involves Porky (as the archetypal 'everyman') violently kicking an annoying Pekingese dog, who unsurprisingly goes "Yipe, yipe, yipe!"
More of Porky please. Hucleberry Hound is another cartoon character that I remember as a child that seemed more prevelent in my younger years but he mostly disappeared as I got older, much like Porky did. Was it for similar reasons??
I figured they would censor Porky for his tendency not to wear pants.
I loved Saturdays ! The day began with the morning cartoons and moved on to an afternoon at the movies with more cartoons ! On a good day there were cartoons followed by a horror movie then more cartoons during the time between a second feature horror movie. At that time the price of admission was one, or sometimes two cans of some sort food for the hungry among us. All this and some popcorn, Milk Duds, Bonomo's Turkish Taffy, Almond Joy or a Mounds Bar depending on your weekly allowance and candy preferences. And no school 'til Monday 😂
Hahahahahaha! They will never make cartoons this good ever again! I remember this episode!
😃Now that I think about it, I'm positive the version I saw way back then in school as a kid was the colorized version, I didn't know there was an original black-and-white version until now! 😄
I’m curious how the censors would want artists to depict people of different races and cultures. From facial features, to skin colors, to dialects, these are what makes people different. Everyone gets exaggerated when they’re turned into a cartoon. Why isn’t anyone censoring the Notre Dame mascot, or the Mario Bros? We all know why.
Censorship of any kind is evil.
Porky pig: I’ve been a bbbbbbbbbb I have done terrible things
I get so sick of everything being called racist. So many things are called racist today that most people don't actually understand what it is.
crazy how the generations that grew up with this came out level headed and with a sense of understanding simple things are just the way it is... now these are bad but yet the generations that dont get these type of shows are so dumb and think everyone is bad for laughing but yet they can not for the life of them understand things dont change to make life easy.... think it time to bring these shows back so the next generation can laugh at jokes and see that life is hard work for it and see that things dont change to suit you....
Apparently it is impossible to comically animate a black person without it being "racist". Cartoonist weren't allowed to even attempt to draw Obama unless it was in a beautiful and dignified manner. Censorship sucks no matter what it's in the name of.
Somebody here has never watched the last two Spiderverse movies. Your argument comes from an antagonist viewpoint and is so wrong it hurts.
It hurts, man. It hurts bad.
@@chemistryguyI have no idea what you're even talking about. However, I'm sorry your feelings are so tender. Get a helmet, man. Get a helmet. 😟
If you struck a match it wouldn't go red, The modern world is NUTS.
I thought you were going to talk about the infamous "blooper"
Would Porky smoking be considered "Self Ham"?
There should be a part 2 regarding the character.
* Porky Pig & Gabby Goat were a great team!
So when were these changes made? The video tells me that the uncensored version was on TV in the early 90s; did Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network edit it in the mid- to late-90s? Are we talking about censorship that was applied roughly 30 years ago?
1:01 somebody please give porky a hat
It's pronounced Dough-where-tee
Old cartoons were presenting caricatures of every ethnicity, social class or profession. Everyone could be "offended" by them. They were all inclusive.
👴🏿don’t offend me I’m sensitive and thin skinned.