The Obscurity of Ministry "Dark Side of the Spoon"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2019
- After Ministry released the divisive album, "Filth Pig," their sound would go into more experimental territory with 1999's "Dark Side of the Spoon."
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There is an era of Ministry for Everyone: From Synthpop to Heavy Metal, To Experimental
Let's see Al do a mumble rap album
Dont forget gospel
Jesus built my hot rod
True ... but go look at comments for the song "Antifa", there's also an era for Ministry in the age of unstable MAGA snowflakes with their fragile masculinity and bigoted fear driven lives.
@@red_response I think tom waits already did that.
Don't forget the side projects 😊
This is probably the most underrated Ministry album. That being said my fave has always been The mind is a terrible thing to taste.
Preach.
This is my favorite Ministry album- Eureka Pile my favorite song. Filth Pig is my second... must be something wrong with me
There Is nothing wrong with You dude, "Filth Pig" Is on my top 10 Best album EVER!!!
I love sludgey Ministry sooooo effing much...the masses, as always, are wrong
..except when they are right.
@@joycesanders4898 when's that?
Has Uncle Al ever let us down?
@@TheDeathbydubstep yes, consistently since Barker walked away.
Literally roll my eyes hard when I read 20 years later how people love this album now while they hated it then - BECAUSE THIS ALBUM HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY BIBLE!!!
Definitely! I loved every Ministry album from my youth and I always found the changes in style interesting. Their last few albums haven't been great but I can usually at least find a couple songs on each one I like. I disagree with Al's politics but there's no denying he knows how to make killer music and he's a huge influence on my own music.
But I do love this album. It just took about ten years for my sensibilities to catch up with it. It shouldn't be eyeroll-worthy to learn to love something that you didn't before.
@@fromthemoonraccoon I think he's just pointing out that it can be frustrating when you know something is so good but others just can't see it. Then way later they come back and like it. It makes you feel like "Yeah, I tried to tell you!"
They just didn't hear the brilliance mate and it's took them 20years to get to where we were when it came out.
My Is "Filth Pig", but that Is the beauty of Ministra, there Is something for everyone!!!......I don't mean "literaly" everyone!!!!!!!!!!
My VHS tape of In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up is still my favourite.
I’ve almost bought the laserdisc a couple times, but a cheap laserdisc player is hard to find. A bluray of that show would be wonderful...
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100% agreed!
One of the greatest live shows ever recorded.
So much agree!! EXCELLENT
So what. Kill for a thrill
This album is in my top five favorite Ministry albums. Such a bleak, darkly psychedelic, and doomy album. "Nursing Home" is one of my favorite Ministry songs ever and that saxophone solo is one of the highlights of the record, imo. I would love to hear Ministry do another record like this.
Haley Michelle It’s their ‘world coming down (type o)’ album. Love it.
@@petermoes1668 Amazing comparison
Haley Michelle Thanks. Type o Negative are not as diverse as Ministry by each album, but they do have a different approach on each one. World Coming Down is such a bleak album - I dont listen too it that much, but the synths use reminded me of ‘dark side of the spoon’. October Rust is still me favorite to play on a dark harvest evening 😀
I just recently started listening to these guys and honestly becoming one of my favs cause every album is so different even the first album i love
Yeah I always really dug it upon my first listen.
Filth Pig is by far my favorite Ministry album probably because I'm more into sludge than industrial and it's the Ministry album I jammed over and over as a teenager. I saw them live at Edgefest in 1999.
Filth Pig quickly grew on me to become one of my favorite Ministry albums. I really loved that period in the bands career where every album was radically different from the one before it. 2 things I would love to see Ministry do again. 1. Another slow, grimy, slugy, record like FP. 2. A synthpop record inspired by their first album.
I’m glad to see a fellow Jourgensen addict like me! Keep me coming!
Ministry Rocks ! Bean a fan since 82 , I got 17 albums so far and a Lot of mp3 . Maybe all
Awesome review, and well researched! My favorite release is the Trax! Box collection, would love to see a review on that.
I wish they backed off with the compression (especially on the RevCo stuff) but it’s the most complete set of material from that era. I love how I don’t have to buy anything extra!
If we let fans tell the artist what to do, music would have sucked in the 1990's. Thank god Al and Paul went with what they wanted to create instead of fan's expectations.
You're album reviews are stellar, love the detail, and stuff I would never pick up, thanks!
Dark Side of The Spoon was never one of my favorite Ministry albums, but this video really opened up my eyes and ears to things I never know about the album and the effort and magic the band put into recording and writing it. Thanx for making this great video. Would love to see you do an analysis on Land of Rape and Honey one day.
Its killbot time!!
you should do this for more ministry and lard albums
This is my favorite Ministry album, but I like all of the 90's and 80's albums.
Dark Side of the Spoon is a strange album, and when I got into Ministry I hated it even though I immediately loved Filth Pig. Now this album is 20 years old and it's actually pretty decent. It just comes after a string of really great albums and gets overlooked. It's far better than anything they've put out in the last 10 years easily.
Filth pig and dark side of the spoon are MY favorite Ministry albums. You may not have got it but I did....lol
Hopefully we can get our hands on those 29 tracks one day...surprised Al didn’t release an anniversary reissue with all the cut songs on it...maybe he will in a few years!!
Ministry... one of the best groups to ever existed.
for sure!!
Nothing compares to ministry..hard fan....
Yup
I love Eureka Pile, such a heavy song.
I always liked this album. I Bought it when it was released. I was in the minority for a long time. Just listened to the entire album a few months ago.
Bought this on release in '99. Its been a fave ever since.
Hello, I hope you're doing well, I want to thank you very much for taking the time to make this research/review video. It was certainly very entertaining and I formative and I specially applaud how much attention you put to getting so many resources into the video, like so many pictures many people haven't seen from that period of the band or interview insight snippets. Your work is truly exceptional here.
This album and the follow up, animositisomina are some of my favorites, across genres, but not only for the music but for the meaning in relation to the time period, the late 90s-early 00s which for me was the "waking up from the American dream" period in movies.and music.
Is my idea that a great number of people and artists living in the 80s really thought they were around the corner of the future, and you see it in movies like back to the future and similar or genres like new wave and industrial where people thought we were so close to the leap into the futuristic future of the year 2000, an almost promised reality.
But then the 90s came and went and the 2000 came and went and people gradually woke up to the idea that that idea of the future never came to realize and that it might actually never come, that instead America was actually worse off in some aspects, the perpetually decaying morality, the normalized drug addiction, the suffering of the lower class, massive obesity epidemic, and so on.
And this albums for me are like snapshots of that American desenchantment and seeing that the future was not gonna come we were instead trapped on a shit future
Hellsyea bro!! I love when you do Ministry videos... Tonight we Murder and Connect the Dots are my 2 all time favorite ministry jams
DSOTS and Filth Pig are my 2 favorite Ministry albums!!
That's why Ministry and NIN are so good, every record is entirely different and brings a new sound.
Dark, strange, and hypnotic. Dark Side is one of the best industrial albums I've ever heard thanks to that and it's obscure,specific flavor. Kaif and Vex and Soilence are two of my favorite Ministry songs; the mesmerizing quality they have is great. Reminds me of a forgotten b-side of theirs: paisley. I could listen to tracks like these all day.
. My
I love this album equal to Pslam 69 and In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up. I love all of the musical variety in the songs yet it's all very industrial in Ministry's own special way. I was lucky enoughto see Ministry on this tour, what a fine evening.
Such a weird album, I miss when big artists took risks like this
You nailed it Killbot...this is the most beautiful tribute to one of Ministry greatest records...thnx for this, man
Like many, The Matrix was my first exposure to Ministry as a teenager. Eventually got Greatest Fits, worked my way thru the back catalogue & the rest is history :)
Very well done dude! Dark Side is my favorite Ministry album, (ahead of its time imo) and you paid it the reverential respect it deserves! Thanks! ✌️
Love it that you did an very exactly analysis of very many details of this album, I knew most of it but it was still exciting to see/hear it, keep up the good work!!! \m/
Those aren't tears,
They're just Bad, Bad Blood!
Great review, Killbot. Grind on!
DSOTS is one of my top 5 albums of all time, a lot of great albums I have played to death but this album won't die ! Sublime.
I’m watching this while not really into Ministry since no one really discusses this album to my knowledge. It’s helping me get into it, I love the bits of the songs in the videos
Make more reviews with this depth
Sounds like I need to give this a listen. Kind of drifted out shortly after Psalm 69. Thanks for the video
Interesting, me too, but now I'm back decades later checking out everything from Revolting Cocks albums I missed and catching up on newer Ministry as well.
Great review as usual. I can honestly say DSOTS is my favorite Ministry album. Like you said, it's very experimental, but that's why I love it. I think the further they strayed away from the whole Psalm 69 image everyone was wanting back, the more they honed that digital, sludgy, hypnotic, schizophrenic machine like sound. Since it came out, I at least have to throw it on every other week. Actually it's probably one of my favorite albums of all time by any band, period. Eureka Pile, Nursing Home and Kaif are my top 3 song for sure.
Great video, Tony! Cheers!
This album was hard to digest for a long time, but I've appreciated it more over the years.
Great video!! Well done brother!!
Excellent analysis man. My favourite album is Filth Pig. Dark side and Psalm 69 after that. I find ignorance to be bliss mostly, but your insights and info into the making and writing of Dark Side make it even better for me, thanks!
I love these Ministry videos 🎉❤ thanks Killbot.
Thank you!! Hopefully you’ve seen the two that came after, as well as the one on the book signing in Chicago
@@KillbotAndGorGorAttack I will definitely check them out. My first Ministry concert was the Psalm 69 tour in Brixton, London. I was already a huge fan of The Land of RAH and The Mind Is A Terrible TTT. Then I saw the Filth Pig tour in the Warfield, S.F, CA. That was one of the best sounding shows I've ever heard. I've seen them a few times since. Animositisomina is really another brilliant album and Houses Of The Mole. Surgical Meth Machine. I'm listening to them loads over the last few weeks. Man, what a band !! Al Jorgensen is so gifted. Wild crazy genius!
As a long time Ministry Fan, all of your Ministry videos RULE!!!!!
Great video Killbot \m/
Thanks for getting me into Ministry
Holy shit! A content provider with a GWAR reference in their name? How have I never come across your channel before today? GWAR has been my favorite band since my mom found Phallus in Wonderland in my VCR during my 13th birthday party in 1993. She tried to explain phallic symbols to us and it was epic childhood insanity. Immediately subscribed.
This was so enjoyable I shared it on my Facebook timeline
Love this album
I put this album on yesterday for the first time in years. I forgotten how cool it is ☺
Love this Album,,
Great video Killbot! Would like to see more of this style of video on more Ministry albums, and also on other albums! \m/
Animositisomina’s video will come after that coffee book comes out! I wanna be sure there’s enough overlay material for it.. then the Bush trilogy will later get one big video
Great f’n job! Was badass, love Ministry
Man you made a great video, keep it up!
I am a metal head through and through, but “With Sympathy” is my favorite record.
Kaif is my favorite. Love the distorted guitars and the vocals. Ministry wasn’t the only artist in the 90’s that experimented on records. Thanks for this video! Very entertaining.
I like this, you actually sound like you know what you are talking about, and not just blappering of some wikipedia bs like certain others *cough cough punk rock mba*
Well fucking played
That’s the idea. I feel like this album isn’t as talked about as other Ministry albums, and its background isn’t as easy to find given that less interviews with them exist from that time. Hence the title, “the obscurity of...” The album to me has a hiddenness about it. I had to buy a bunch of magazines from the era to learn everything written here :)
Ah, my childhood theme music. 😂👍
i didn't like this record at all back in 1999 and i shelved it. However, i'm dusting it off tonight and giving it another chance - and thanks to this video, i think i just might love it.
ministry/revco fan since 92. eureka pile is imo one of their best. thanks for a focus on this underrated album.
Proud to own the Japanese release with Happy Dust on it.
Underrated album. Love it.
Thanks for doing a review of Ministry’s Dark Side of the Spoon.
Filth pig is still my favourite Ministry album excellent from front too back.Bought it when it came out and still listen too it alot now
still 1 of my fav ministry album
Good stuff. Thank you.
I forgot there was a lot of good songs on this album.
Darkside is my favorite Ministry album and Nursing Home is my fave Ministry Tune. That banjo man
Also has some of the dirtiest, most crushing bass I've ever heard. I wish more Ministry songs had bass that powerful.
I think that I mentioned this before on another vid of yours, but I saw them on this tour and couldn't hear for three days. Awesome show though
great record and the only time time i had the chance to see them live
loved this album!
Loved the Crispin Glover yell. Thanks Uncle Al
I guess I'm weird but I always liked Filth Pig and DSotS more than Psalm 69, or at least I listened to them more often back in the day.
My two favorite albums are of course the most commercially inaccessible and least popular: Filth Pig and DSotS. They were the soundtrack for my decade of mirrored personal abuse.
Good work dude.
Got this album for christmas its brillant from start to finish!
this was my favorite album. thanks for the insight. i wish they were still doing stuff like this i can't get into anything after the bush bashing era.
That was very informative, thanks.
Ive been jamming this album since it's release and i never knew Paul sang Vex & Siolence. Still a killer album today. Same with Filthpig. Two albums I'll never stop spinning.
Appreciate the deep dive and the effort. Not many review videos of this one especially this well put together. Nicely done 🤘
Around this time, I stop listening Ministry and NIN but KMFDM became favorite this time.
Is my favorite. And they have albums previously that had songs with a similar vibe. Cannibal song from Mind is... and Scarecrow from Psalm 69. This was just a complete package.
I LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FILTH PIG AND DSOTS as much as the earlier albums.
all the work u have done and 15 just dont like it enough to dislike. what a sad day.
On "Nursing Home", some of the sax parts are actually samples from the score to Cassavettes' film Gloria.
Supermanic Soul, the opening track of Dark Side of the Spoon fucking blew me away and is still one of my ALL TIME favorites of the genre. It just hits so hard.
Definitely one of their best records...i which they could still come up with something close to this record
Good video, you wouldn’t think someone would dig up so much information on an oddball album
awesome video
I had land of rape.. And psalm 69.. So when I got the "sludge" album I already knew they could go different styles I was happy because the lead single wasn't blowing you away.. So the sludge was a surprise. Slow guitars are cool anyway.. Had a bass and style a tad like the Prong record from same year "96" A few other bands maybe here and there have captured that sound.. But Ministry nailed it.. I had like missing records.. My buddies' younger brother had Dark side but I didn't hear much.. By this review it's sick!! Love youtube going back you can hear stuff you missed.. This album sounds more Ministry then filth pig.. But I appreciated that record. a few Jams were heady or different but still had those crazy ministry ideas.. I gotta blaze one and Rock whole record. Ministry did a good amount of 90's soundtrack songs too. ..
This is their best freaking album are you kidding me it's all about quality not quantity
This made me want to go and look for my Filth Pig cassette, so I did...and I found it!
Okay, but WHO is Linda and WHY does she sing the summertime song?
Anyway, thanks for not shitting on this masterpiece of an album. It's honestly the album that got me into more experimental forms of music, outside of just the usual rock and metal stuff... the samples on "Step" integrated so well, and made the song so much weirder, while still being a dark and noisy headbanger.
This one sounds great on vinyl as does Filth Pig...Fuck whatever was popular, this was the best shit that came out back then...would love to hear those other tracks...they probably rule💪
Wish you would do a video like this for Animositisomina...an album I know you love dearly...just as well as I do!
Thank you, sir😁👍
Great video dude \m/
Rubbing Alkohol hola amigo
Huge Ministry fan. Love this video! This album is bizarre and underrated or overlooked. I don't think it aged super well but I think it's really cool how they went down such a strange direction with the gloomy gothic Jazz industrial blend. "Bad Blood" and "Supermanic Soul" are classics and should be played live at any show. The rest are interesting mood pieces, especially "Eureka Pile". Love the album artwork but clearly the whole thing was kind of meant to push away any mainstream viability. They were determined to remain underground or couldn't handle the popularity of Psalm 69 it seems...Anyway I miss the artistic magic of Hypo Lux and Hermes Pan producer duo. It hasn't been quite the same since Paul Barker left the group. Things have been a bit more generic, but still some highlights. Thanks for doing this video it's a really cool deep dive and very informative. It's hard to come across those old articles about this album online, so it's nice to have all the stuff summarized in one place! I look forward to your Animositisomina video next because that album is criminally undercooked in my opinion!
Did a video on that one last year! “The catharsis of animositisomina.” Max Brody was a consultant for that, so quite accurate
@@KillbotAndGorGorAttack I remember talking to Brody many years back he was cool. Send me the CD of the unreleased Pink Anvil album 'New Years Eve Party' (I was a big fan of 'Halloween Party' when it came out). Do you know him personally?
Great album! Especially the slower tracks at the end, which are truly depressing and full of despair. This is one of Ministry's last great albums. An intriguing listen because it makes you wonder what their goal was. How did they want the listener to feel? I give them much credit because they could of tried to rekindle the success of Psalm 69 but chose to stay true to themselves.
Never understood the problem everyone had with Filth Pig. It's my favorite of all Ministry albums.
vicdmise, I always thought it was ok, but Filth Pig has grown on me over the years. Starting with Rape and Honey, Al was pioneering this new sort of cyberthrash. It was the mix of electronic elements and guitars that I liked, throughout Rape, Mind, and Psalm 69. Filth Pig has basically none of that. Just slow, detuned guitars, nonexistent electronic elements. And I found that disappointing. I’ve grown to really like the album though.