Got a fx5700 ultra and x700 pro. Both late-comers from the same era. The x700 is far superior in performance and works perfect in win98. fx5700 ultra is better in winxp but still feels slower than x700 pro on win98. Unfortunately i couldnt get 1080p to work on the red side, even with rivatuner.
I remember having this card, It was quite a beast and played almost all my games near max settings at either 1024x768 or 1280x1024 on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+, using a 19 in CRT. Man those were some good times! Some great memories brought back cause of this video! Thank you for posting this!
This got me nostalgic, still have my old AMD 64 x2 rig with a X850 XT in it, ran great back in the day. Might have to pull it out and play some old games.
You forgot to mention, this is possibly the fastest graphics card that has win98 drivers available. Win98/ME versions of Catalyst 5.2, 5.9 and 6.2 drivers all support the x850xt out of the box, no modifications needed. Both agp and pcie versions. Nice for running win9x-era games at 1600x1200 with 6xAA
@@armorgeddon yeah, the fast cpu you gonna need not to hold one of these back will also probably cause issues with the oldest of games, so a build like this probably cant stand on its own as your sole retro gaming pc, you will either need to have another more period-correct build, or perhaps use PCem for those problematic games. An example i can think of, TNFS SE has a win95 executable, and even on my P3-1000 + voodoo3 system I had trouble getting this game to work, but on my socket 7 build with s3 virge graphics it works perfectly
@@GodOfGamingBG TNFS SE is one of my favorite games ever. It's best to run it in pure DOS. Of course it came out at a time in which Windows 95 had just come to the market and therefor many games developed for DOS received a slapped on Windows installer along with a special game-exe for Windows, but performance and compatibility was compromised and those old installers often cause trouble on later Windows 9x versions since they radically install their DirectX 2 and 3 onto your system.
I always come to see good old enthusiast gamer computer hardware. This is golden essence of your channel. Watchig every video like this. Thank you for sharing
I bought the X850XT at launch and it was enough to keep me in the ATI Radeon camp for a long time. I still have this GPU in it's original build and it's still alive.
You could enjoy any computer out there but you choose to appreciate older tech and I love that. I have a lot more fun testing and benchmarking older hardware myself!
I remember seeying this same card in a pc magazine cover back in the early 00's, i was so amazed by how it looked. Tha turbine cooler seemed huge, was so cool back in the day since most of the cards from that period had just a tiny heatsink and fan.
I remember the XT non PE users being able to flash those cards with a PE BIOS for increased performance. Much like the RX 5700 with a RX 5700XT BIOS for increased performance. In 2004 I had P4 with a Geforce 6800 and it ran Doom3 Great.
@@uncreative_name48 Yeah, still have my ECS 755-A2 with athlon 64 3000+, audigy 2 with head unit, and the ATI X800 pro 256mb AGP with the Zalman cooler. best win 9x/ xp retro machine.
Happy NY, Phil! Re HL2 vouchers - my ATI Radeon 9500 came with one. It were the earliest days of the Steam and initial promise was that HL2 copy would be shipped with Radeon 9xxx series on boards launch. Reality turned out that we've got vouchers instead and had to wait another year for HL2 to be released. On the bright side was the fact that they had extended serial keys on vouchers to award the entire Orange Box plus some additional stuff - which meant that people were getting a number of good games to play while waiting for HL2 to finally be released. Of course assuming that you were able to get a good bandwidth internet connection to download stuff from Steam. For me living in Moscow is was a tough thing - best case "unlimited flat rate plan" available by that time was like 256K ADSL - and even this thing was on a pricey side for the university student. I remember spending like day and a half downloading HL2 pre-release encrypted seed blobs - insanely long when you look at it from now days perspective.
Hi PCL 🥳🥰👋 I personally had the Radeon X850 XT Platinum Edition graphics card, however mine was a single slot version with a massive copper HSF combo and at the time it was an amazing card with blistering FPS at the time it was built. I loved it 🥰🥰👍🥳🥳 and for the games I played at the time it was ahead of everything (just) with performance and I can honestly say mine NEVER sounded like that despite being under load. Terrific review! Loved this episode!
In this time I had an Athlon single core and a Radeon 9550. I upgraded to that from a Rage II and I upgraded from 9550 to an HD 3650. I use a Vega 56 right now, and also still have an HD 6850, 7850, RX 470, RX 560, and RX 570. I been keeping up with the Radeons for a really long time.
I had this card for a couple of years as a late kicker for aging Pentium 4 system (2.6C @ 3.5 GHz) that didn't have PCI-E. This was a great final upgrade !
Happy new year! Snappy driver installer origin huh?, I must remember this. I have a retro xp medion PC where I can't find most drivers for... thanks for making such informative videos. I love that old medion for retro gaming that wont work in w10. Ah I miss quake 4 and doom 3.. I newer completed them. Also the sw games of that era... oh man.... those were so great.
Nice video about the video card that made me dream back in the days! In 2004 I had an AMD Athlon 550Mhz with a ATI Radeon 7000 64Mb (old!) I changed in 2005 for a AMD Sempron and an ATI 9600
Funny you should mention that. I was idly looking up specs the other day and it struck me just how poor the x1600 looked on paper compared to older cards.
Happy New Years Phil! Another year of some good videos yet to come. I think it be cool to show off some high-end gaming rigs from 10, 20 and 30 years ago. 1991, 2001 and 2011.
I wasn't even alive in 2004. It's crazy that games back then already looked and played so familiarly. For example, Far Cry is not a _far cry_ from modern games.
Happy new year! I used to dream for that card back in the day, it's one of my most desired ones along the HD3850 Agp. Kind of impossible to be found in my country, atleast at a sub 100$ price tag.
Got one looking brand new, like yours there, for just $25! (on eBay USA). It will pair with an Atlhon 64 4000+ (you´ve already reviewed) on a MSI K8N Neo4 (nForce4). That will be my top single core XP system. Have a great "retro-2021"!
The golden days of ATi was fun. I had a Hercules ATi Radeon 9800 Pro as my first graphics card, it was a beast at the time. After that I had the bonkers ATi X1900 All In Wonder card that had a frickin' SCART connector in the extra connector harness came with it, and it had a built-in tuner for analog TV signals. :D
0:44 THANK YOU PHIL! I'm always messing around with removing the bigger versions of the intel stock cooler never realizing I could use a screwdriver XD
Beautiful video card but wow was that loud. Definitely a collector's item like you said and it definitely was something I liked. I love that see through shroud or whatever you would call it.
No need to run out and buy a x850 xt pe, its already in my "retro" pc since 2006. Got the agp version though an updated my mainboard to an asrock 775 one with agp and pcie. It is a nice card, I have so many nice memories with it and it was a good successor to my radeon 9800SE.
I LOVED that GPU. I noticed around the 1:03 mark you mention it as GDDR5. I had a P4 478 system, I think 768MB ram and a Radeon 9600 AIW around this time(03/04) Thanks for the video.
in 2004 I had a P3 866 on a 440BX but only a Geforce 6200.... Thank you Phil for all the content. My daughter (shes 5) and I have used your Videos and Web page too help us build a P2 400 Voodoo3 Windows 95 PC for her edutainment games and are working on a P3-s 1400 Tusl2-c ATI 9700 pro but the ATI seems to be dead... Have a 9600 pro that works so it will be that for now.
Well, It's is the perfect card for dual windows 98 and XP systems. Yes, overkill choice for Win98 SE but it is officially compatible and run latest Win98 games with... sufficiency ☺️
Great video Phil! What a nice little card. At this time I think I had an athlon64 3200 754. I ran through quite a few video cards, hard to say which one I had. But I know at one point I had a gf 6800 agp from BFG, and after that I switched to a 939 cpu and got an ati x800, something like that. Good times! Thanks for the video, always.
I bought one of these for $25 only a week ago, and it works! I will be restoring it with parts from my dead XT cooler and stuff. Need to replace the sticker though :(
My old pc was a p4 with 865m chipset motherboard (on board vga). It only have agp 4x, and this kind of cards were something of a dream back then... My family isn't wealthy, so that pc is what we can afford... It mostly for doing college papers and such, but it chugged along just fine running Dota at low for some entertainment. I'm so glad I can afford something much better now 😊
2004 I was an Athlon X2 and still using my Radeon 9700pro AIW on an asrock 939 dual sata 2.. I later popped a 7900GT on that board when I could put the money into it, and that was the last ATI card I had until my 5700XT this last year... I sure got a lot of mileage out of that mainboard, as I first put a single core Athlon 64 on it, and I think I used it until the bitter end and finally moved into an E8400 on an asus P45 board and recieved my brothers 8800GTS 512 handmedowns (sli)
I've a boxed one. ;) They do play bioshock... I remember being the main euro intake for these cards and my phone was on the go, and it was the day my daughter was born. I built a lot of top systems including cross fire. Eax sound cards and 7.1 was out then too. It was a card where everyone held out upgrading from the previous gen. I can't remember what I was running twin 6600gts by gainward. And they were faster than the ultra. I had my X2 4700. Upgraded from the 3200 x64. Which was a very nice CPU. But I have my sli board still running today a8nsli dlx. After that I went for the p76q pro. (775) as AMD started to lag behind intel. I then jumped from ATI to the Nvidia, and then back again to the x1950xt pro. Then kept that for a long time and went on to play on the 8800gt. That went on for years and years until 2018 when I upgraded to a 960,4gb which was short lived as I did a full new build, staying Nvidia and the 1660 on a Ryzen 7. I've the dual card from way back, it's power hungry, and hot. But it was only used for a few months and stored.. sadly the power requirements (600+) don't cut it so I run a 750gt. And have a 7850 in another machine. I always find it hard when it comes to the dual and the quads, it really did depend on what you were using a system for to what was best to use.
The X800 series of GPUs are what I call overkill Pixel Shader 2 GPUs. So GeForce 6 was flexing Pixel Shader 3 support (with performance actually being abysmal at any PS3.0 task) while X600-700-800 were only doing 9.0b/Pixel Shader 2.0b. And at those specs, the X850 was a beast.
In 2004 I was sporting a Pentium 4 3.0GHz Northwood chip running in an Asus 875P chipset board with 512MB and a Radeon X850 Pro AGP 8x card. And of course you had to run Windows XP to take advantage of the HyperThreading of the Pentium 4.
In 2004 I had an emachines PC with an Athlon XP 3200+, 1GB RAM and a Radeon 9250 AGP 128mb. Worked well enough to play Everquest 2. This was also the last prebuilt desktop I ever bought. I replaced it with a Gateway laptop with an x600 and that worked quite well for several years.
Nice video! Personally I think Radeons X800 and nVidia 6000 series are ideal for win98/XP dual boot systems, as were the last to support win98 (knida overkill) and could handle many games in XP era as in your video
I owned an x800 (the garishly appointed TV capture card model) back in the day. Really didn't impress me much at the time. That being said, the followup x1900XT absolutely did. At the time, loved that beast of a card and kept it for quite some time (think it was replaced by a HD4850).
I'm in two minds whether to watch or not. I recently picked up an agp pe, so I don't really want to spoil it! I went with a Gainward 6800 GLH back in the day when it was really a choice between HL2 or Doom3 performance. Little did I know at the time that ATIs drivers would catch the 6800ultra up easily. Was the biggest jump in performance I'd ever done going to the 6800. Love these cards.
Back when you didn't need to spend a ridiculous amount to run games at 60 FPS. I was an avid gamer PC gamer from 1995 to 2004 and was able to get by with decent hardware at the time. When I got back into gaming this year, I was unable to run anything on my hardware despite having the latest hardware.
Urban Chaos has the same issue and it's a much older game. I use DGVoodoo2 to create a DLL that fools the game into thinking my 1060 actually only has 64mb of vram and now the game runs with the textures I remember when I was a kid (was questioning why D'arci's body armor had "Police" extremely blurry) Also, Sims 2 locks out all graphical options if it doesn't recognize your card, but there's a good workaround for it already, though I didn't test with DGV2
great channel , i love all this old stuff... Back in the day my first "gaming pc" was a gateway and it had a P3 and it had a TNT2 , i inspired my mate to get the same PC and he got the same gateway and he got the TNT2 "ultra" , i was so jealous. SUBBED !!
I still have my x800xt AGP version and powered by single molex connector(obviously i dont use it anymore), damn that gpu was a beast, unfortunately it had only pixel shader 2.0 instead of 3.0 which was so bad when many games started to require it because the card had enough grunt to run them but no "modern" shader version, so the result was that many 2008 or newer games just didnt launch on it.
i remember upgrading an emachines with this card so i could play half life 2. first time ever upgrading a computer, and the jump from integrated graphics to this was mind blowing.
X800 were epic. They could run many ps3 x360 games like tomb raider legend. Unreal tournament 3. Cod4. Ghost recon aw. Rainbow six vegas. Gears of war. Just cause. Nfs most wanted. Carbon. Undercover. And off course crysis. They were so powerfull
I had one of these back in the day. The biggest issue I ran into with this card was lack of “Shader Model 3” support. Even though this card was more than capable to play games that came out just a few years after its release, they would just flat out not even launch because of that.
I had a high end Athlon and a 9600 Pro then a X850 Pro, fans died on both, don't recall what I replaced with but it definitely supported Shader model 3.0.
I had one of these cards but it was a better AIB unit with a different and quieter cooler on it. Last time an ATi/AMD card resided in my main PC actually but secondary PC and my kids PC's have sported Radeons since. Still have a HD3850 AGP card in spares bin but sold the X850XT PE to a friend to upgrade him back in the day. Nice retro flashback with my morning coffee today especially with the featured games as I played a lot of HL2 and Far Cry. Happy New Year!
I got this card secondhand for my first custom build with a Core 2 Duo. I remember that It worked pretty well for Crysis up until the part with the aliens and then performance got way worse. Such a beautiful card. Play more KotOR!
Even though I owned a GeForce 6800GS at the time and kept it until I got a 9600GT, I was always fond of the Radeons around that era because of my Aunt's PC having a mid-range model that combined with her faster CPU (Mine was an Athlon XP 2600+, hers was an Athlon64 3500+) made for an overall faster gaming PC in most titles although a few ran better on mine. Now my retro PCs DX9 era GPUs are twin x1950Pro's in crossfire. :D
The X series, unironically my favourite series of GPUs. Super underrated, but got me into PC Gaming.
Love you man. Im using your content to make my freind a cheap setup that works good enough for now
Yes, X1950 pro single slot. What an amazing card!
Got a fx5700 ultra and x700 pro. Both late-comers from the same era. The x700 is far superior in performance and works perfect in win98. fx5700 ultra is better in winxp but still feels slower than x700 pro on win98. Unfortunately i couldnt get 1080p to work on the red side, even with rivatuner.
It was not underrated at all. X800 was the fastest GPU in the world when it was launched.
X series weren't bad, but their branding was a huge mess. HD**** were much more logical
I must say you single handily got me into collecting old tech, and I thank you.
I remember having this card, It was quite a beast and played almost all my games near max settings at either 1024x768 or 1280x1024 on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+, using a 19 in CRT. Man those were some good times! Some great memories brought back cause of this video! Thank you for posting this!
Had mine paired up the same way in a SFF PC, though the heat and noise, those were not good memories.
I remember owning the ati 9600 pro this card man were they beasts at the time. Also had the phenom cpus when they first came out ahh the good days!
This got me nostalgic, still have my old AMD 64 x2 rig with a X850 XT in it, ran great back in the day. Might have to pull it out and play some old games.
You forgot to mention, this is possibly the fastest graphics card that has win98 drivers available. Win98/ME versions of Catalyst 5.2, 5.9 and 6.2 drivers all support the x850xt out of the box, no modifications needed. Both agp and pcie versions. Nice for running win9x-era games at 1600x1200 with 6xAA
Nice I will keep that in mind for my nostalgia pc build I'm planning to do
I suppose that it will be visible as a legacy pci card...
Compatibility with very old 9x games is an issue though, but that's the case for nearly all Radeons.
@@armorgeddon yeah, the fast cpu you gonna need not to hold one of these back will also probably cause issues with the oldest of games, so a build like this probably cant stand on its own as your sole retro gaming pc, you will either need to have another more period-correct build, or perhaps use PCem for those problematic games. An example i can think of, TNFS SE has a win95 executable, and even on my P3-1000 + voodoo3 system I had trouble getting this game to work, but on my socket 7 build with s3 virge graphics it works perfectly
@@GodOfGamingBG TNFS SE is one of my favorite games ever. It's best to run it in pure DOS. Of course it came out at a time in which Windows 95 had just come to the market and therefor many games developed for DOS received a slapped on Windows installer along with a special game-exe for Windows, but performance and compatibility was compromised and those old installers often cause trouble on later Windows 9x versions since they radically install their DirectX 2 and 3 onto your system.
In 2004 I had an 850MHz Athlon Thunderbird (Socket 462) and a Ti4200... I still have them :-).
I always come to see good old enthusiast gamer computer hardware. This is golden essence of your channel. Watchig every video like this. Thank you for sharing
I bought the X850XT at launch and it was enough to keep me in the ATI Radeon camp for a long time. I still have this GPU in it's original build and it's still alive.
Aaaaah those times where more noise was better! I had an Ati 850, which good memories!
You could enjoy any computer out there but you choose to appreciate older tech and I love that. I have a lot more fun testing and benchmarking older hardware myself!
I remember seeying this same card in a pc magazine cover back in the early 00's, i was so amazed by how it looked. Tha turbine cooler seemed huge, was so cool back in the day since most of the cards from that period had just a tiny heatsink and fan.
"The video card is not too loud if the fans are working under 10% speed" haha
I remember the XT non PE users being able to flash those cards with a PE BIOS for increased performance. Much like the RX 5700 with a RX 5700XT BIOS for increased performance. In 2004 I had P4 with a Geforce 6800 and it ran Doom3 Great.
this video finally solved what card was in my Dell XPS from that era. THANK YOU
Right around this time I was rocking a Radeon 9800 too! Paired with an Athlon 64. So happy to see Painkiller here. A stake gun? Heck yeah!
AGP is my favourite period. The 9700pro and 9800s were beastly back then.
I had Athlon (Barton) @2,5GHz and Radeon 9700PRO. Played through Doom3 with that.
I had the Hercules Radeon 9800 Pro paired with an AMD Athlon XP 2700 and one whole gigabyte of DDR RAM. :D
I remember when X850XT PE was fighting 6800Ultra 2004 , ah good old days. Doom, FarCry, Half Life 2.
Yeah, that was an epic gpu battle. If I remember correctly, Doom 3 was faster on nvidia, but Half Life 2 was faster on X850XT PE
This was my exact experience back then too. I decided to go with Doom3, or should I say a 6800 ultra. Great cards either way.
I had an x600 back then, never thought i'd have a pc that could play HL2 but my dream came true
I bought one of these cards not to long ago, paired with the best Athlon 64 of 2004 as well. A pretty amazing 2004 retro gaming rig
Your system is very period accurate, the x850/ 800 was released in 2004.
@@FullMetal-Tech Yep, I tried to make it pretty much the best that money could buy in '04
@@uncreative_name48 Yeah, still have my ECS 755-A2 with athlon 64 3000+, audigy 2 with head unit, and the ATI X800 pro 256mb AGP with the Zalman cooler. best win 9x/ xp retro machine.
Happy New Year. Let's hope this year things will get better and thank you for the video content you make.
I hope so too
Happy NY, Phil! Re HL2 vouchers - my ATI Radeon 9500 came with one. It were the earliest days of the Steam and initial promise was that HL2 copy would be shipped with Radeon 9xxx series on boards launch. Reality turned out that we've got vouchers instead and had to wait another year for HL2 to be released. On the bright side was the fact that they had extended serial keys on vouchers to award the entire Orange Box plus some additional stuff - which meant that people were getting a number of good games to play while waiting for HL2 to finally be released. Of course assuming that you were able to get a good bandwidth internet connection to download stuff from Steam. For me living in Moscow is was a tough thing - best case "unlimited flat rate plan" available by that time was like 256K ADSL - and even this thing was on a pricey side for the university student. I remember spending like day and a half downloading HL2 pre-release encrypted seed blobs - insanely long when you look at it from now days perspective.
This thing ate every game thrown at it. I used to assemble these coupled with Pentium Ds for customers. I was always sad to let them go. x)
Hi PCL 🥳🥰👋 I personally had the Radeon X850 XT Platinum Edition graphics card, however mine was a single slot version with a massive copper HSF combo and at the time it was an amazing card with blistering FPS at the time it was built. I loved it 🥰🥰👍🥳🥳 and for the games I played at the time it was ahead of everything (just) with performance and I can honestly say mine NEVER sounded like that despite being under load. Terrific review! Loved this episode!
1:04 gddr5? Happy New year Phils, thanks for all the amazing vídeos, greetings and best wishes from Brazil, take care and be safe .
In this time I had an Athlon single core and a Radeon 9550. I upgraded to that from a Rage II and I upgraded from 9550 to an HD 3650. I use a Vega 56 right now, and also still have an HD 6850, 7850, RX 470, RX 560, and RX 570. I been keeping up with the Radeons for a really long time.
I had this card for a couple of years as a late kicker for aging Pentium 4 system (2.6C @ 3.5 GHz) that didn't have PCI-E. This was a great final upgrade !
Happy new year! Snappy driver installer origin huh?, I must remember this. I have a retro xp medion PC where I can't find most drivers for... thanks for making such informative videos. I love that old medion for retro gaming that wont work in w10. Ah I miss quake 4 and doom 3.. I newer completed them. Also the sw games of that era... oh man.... those were so great.
Nice video about the video card that made me dream back in the days!
In 2004 I had an AMD Athlon 550Mhz with a ATI Radeon 7000 64Mb (old!)
I changed in 2005 for a AMD Sempron and an ATI 9600
Remember playing Doom 3 and Half Life 2 with this gpu. Time flies
I didn't expect that kind of build to be called retro that soon. I'm still using these sorts of computers regularly.
2004 was quite some time ago already so
@@2timegarza583 Depends on how old you are. Yikes!
@@classicpctinker5070 true I was 5 in 04 so yeah lol
I have the radeon X800 GT on Duel boot with win 98 & xp. My 16 yr old self wished I had all then years ago.
Beast of card. Back in 2005 I tested same card and 1600xt and x850xt was faster in directX 9.0B games.
Funny you should mention that. I was idly looking up specs the other day and it struck me just how poor the x1600 looked on paper compared to older cards.
Phil, this is the best New year's present ever!
I really REALLY like the design of this card, thank you!
I'd love to see a windows 9x video with this card.
Happy New Years Phil! Another year of some good videos yet to come.
I think it be cool to show off some high-end gaming rigs from 10, 20 and 30 years ago. 1991, 2001 and 2011.
I wasn't even alive in 2004. It's crazy that games back then already looked and played so familiarly. For example, Far Cry is not a _far cry_ from modern games.
man I built my first pc in 2004 with my cousins help after killing 3 other prebuilt pcs as a 4 year old, still using my philips crt from that build
@@cin2110 phillips crt monitors are the best
having had fried many myself, that vid card fan sounds rather fried lol, keep it up my friend, happy new years from canada!
Happy new year! I used to dream for that card back in the day, it's one of my most desired ones along the HD3850 Agp. Kind of impossible to be found in my country, atleast at a sub 100$ price tag.
Got one looking brand new, like yours there, for just $25! (on eBay USA). It will pair with an Atlhon 64 4000+ (you´ve already reviewed) on a MSI K8N Neo4 (nForce4). That will be my top single core XP system. Have a great "retro-2021"!
Very nice! Athlon 64 4000+ is such a nice CPU!
Back in that day (2003) I had a Geforce FX 5600 256mb, an Athlon XP and 2GB of RAM.
I had the AGP version. Great card at the time.
I have one of these in a box still.
Had it water cooled and it did 650mhz/650mhz. Was an absolute beast.
This video card made me king of the original Battlefield , and COD games... Back when ATI was king.....
The golden days of ATi was fun. I had a Hercules ATi Radeon 9800 Pro as my first graphics card, it was a beast at the time. After that I had the bonkers ATi X1900 All In Wonder card that had a frickin' SCART connector in the extra connector harness came with it, and it had a built-in tuner for analog TV signals. :D
0:44 THANK YOU PHIL! I'm always messing around with removing the bigger versions of the intel stock cooler never realizing I could use a screwdriver XD
E8xxx - my most beloved CPU line. Remember OCing E8400 to 4.2 GHz. It was just marvelous how it reacted.
I had a Radeon 9250 128GB Whooo, could that baby lag :D, was my first gaming machine and I loved it to bits!
Beautiful video card but wow was that loud. Definitely a collector's item like you said and it definitely was something I liked. I love that see through shroud or whatever you would call it.
Thanks for this, I have one of these sitting in a box. Was always more of an Nvidia fan back in the day myself.
please review the X1950 Pro, i still love that card, mine from Sapphire and a single slot version and AGP 8X! :)
No need to run out and buy a x850 xt pe, its already in my "retro" pc since 2006. Got the agp version though an updated my mainboard to an asrock 775 one with agp and pcie. It is a nice card, I have so many nice memories with it and it was a good successor to my radeon 9800SE.
I LOVED that GPU. I noticed around the 1:03 mark you mention it as GDDR5. I had a P4 478 system, I think 768MB ram and a Radeon 9600 AIW around this time(03/04) Thanks for the video.
in 2004 I had a P3 866 on a 440BX but only a Geforce 6200.... Thank you Phil for all the content. My daughter (shes 5) and I have used your Videos and Web page too help us build a P2 400 Voodoo3 Windows 95 PC for her edutainment games and are working on a P3-s 1400 Tusl2-c ATI 9700 pro but the ATI seems to be dead... Have a 9600 pro that works so it will be that for now.
Happy New Year Phil& Community.
Greetz from Cologne/Germany.
Same to you!
I see your New Year's resolution would be 1600x1200 :D Good one! All the best!
Around that time I was running an Athlon XP 2800+ with a Radeon 9600 Pro. Good times! Love your videos!
Well, It's is the perfect card for dual windows 98 and XP systems. Yes, overkill choice for Win98 SE but it is officially compatible and run latest Win98 games with... sufficiency ☺️
It's not overkill, it's "in excess of requirements" 😎
@@406Steven Yes... slightly above than expected 😎
Oh the Nostalgia , Great vid Phil :)
@PhilsComputerLab could you look at this x850 xt pe for Windows 98 as this card is the fastest card ATI has that supported win 98.
Afaik the agp version went up in price after a while due to demand
Phil FYI most Creative cards have a EAX support addon that allows most games to use EAX on vista/7/8/10. It works surprisingly well.
Tim Hunter an official creative program for newer creative cards in win10?
Alchemy
I got one of these as a present. I used it until 2006 or 7 when games needed shaders it did not support.
Love these retro videos.
Great video Phil! What a nice little card. At this time I think I had an athlon64 3200 754. I ran through quite a few video cards, hard to say which one I had. But I know at one point I had a gf 6800 agp from BFG, and after that I switched to a 939 cpu and got an ati x800, something like that. Good times! Thanks for the video, always.
I bought one of these for $25 only a week ago, and it works! I will be restoring it with parts from my dead XT cooler and stuff. Need to replace the sticker though :(
A great card Phil Thanks and Happy New Year
My old pc was a p4 with 865m chipset motherboard (on board vga). It only have agp 4x, and this kind of cards were something of a dream back then... My family isn't wealthy, so that pc is what we can afford... It mostly for doing college papers and such, but it chugged along just fine running Dota at low for some entertainment.
I'm so glad I can afford something much better now 😊
2004 I was an Athlon X2 and still using my Radeon 9700pro AIW on an asrock 939 dual sata 2.. I later popped a 7900GT on that board when I could put the money into it, and that was the last ATI card I had until my 5700XT this last year... I sure got a lot of mileage out of that mainboard, as I first put a single core Athlon 64 on it, and I think I used it until the bitter end and finally moved into an E8400 on an asus P45 board and recieved my brothers 8800GTS 512 handmedowns (sli)
2:22 That is why i have an ATi Silencer 5 on my X850XT PE :)
I've a boxed one. ;)
They do play bioshock...
I remember being the main euro intake for these cards and my phone was on the go, and it was the day my daughter was born.
I built a lot of top systems including cross fire. Eax sound cards and 7.1 was out then too.
It was a card where everyone held out upgrading from the previous gen. I can't remember what I was running twin 6600gts by gainward. And they were faster than the ultra.
I had my X2 4700. Upgraded from the 3200 x64. Which was a very nice CPU. But I have my sli board still running today a8nsli dlx. After that I went for the p76q pro. (775) as AMD started to lag behind intel.
I then jumped from ATI to the Nvidia, and then back again to the x1950xt pro. Then kept that for a long time and went on to play on the 8800gt.
That went on for years and years until 2018 when I upgraded to a 960,4gb which was short lived as I did a full new build, staying Nvidia and the 1660 on a Ryzen 7.
I've the dual card from way back, it's power hungry, and hot. But it was only used for a few months and stored.. sadly the power requirements (600+) don't cut it so I run a 750gt. And have a 7850 in another machine.
I always find it hard when it comes to the dual and the quads, it really did depend on what you were using a system for to what was best to use.
Ahhh the shader model 2.0. Bane of my existance in early 2000s
A million nvidia geforce fx 5000 series owners cried out in unison and were quickly silenced. Meanwhile radeon 9000 series owners laughed.
Happy New Year Phil!
Radeon X800 series had Amazing SM2.0 performance, just a direct X 9.0 beast.
How I miss the old style of GPU coolers. They may not have been as effective, but they looked so awesome.
The X800 series of GPUs are what I call overkill Pixel Shader 2 GPUs.
So GeForce 6 was flexing Pixel Shader 3 support (with performance actually being abysmal at any PS3.0 task) while X600-700-800 were only doing 9.0b/Pixel Shader 2.0b. And at those specs, the X850 was a beast.
In 2004 I was sporting a Pentium 4 3.0GHz Northwood chip running in an Asus 875P chipset board with 512MB and a Radeon X850 Pro AGP 8x card. And of course you had to run Windows XP to take advantage of the HyperThreading of the Pentium 4.
In 2004 I had an emachines PC with an Athlon XP 3200+, 1GB RAM and a Radeon 9250 AGP 128mb. Worked well enough to play Everquest 2. This was also the last prebuilt desktop I ever bought. I replaced it with a Gateway laptop with an x600 and that worked quite well for several years.
Happy New Year! Love your Videos.
Same to you!
Nice video! Personally I think Radeons X800 and nVidia 6000 series are ideal for win98/XP dual boot systems, as were the last to support win98 (knida overkill) and could handle many games in XP era as in your video
I may have to search my PC parts storage, I could swear somewhere is a X850. Didn´t had the time to dive deeper in older than ´02 graphics cards yet.
I have an AGP version of the X800 GTO, its a great card. Still using an X1650 Pro 512mb AGP in a machine too.
I love the way old GPS look. We need more transparent shrouds and red impellers today.
Played Battlefield 2 so much with this card , my Pentium 4 3,6 Ghz CPU and Windows XP. Still got the PC and tested it yesterday, works perfect. 🙂
I owned an x800 (the garishly appointed TV capture card model) back in the day. Really didn't impress me much at the time. That being said, the followup x1900XT absolutely did. At the time, loved that beast of a card and kept it for quite some time (think it was replaced by a HD4850).
I'm in two minds whether to watch or not. I recently picked up an agp pe, so I don't really want to spoil it! I went with a Gainward 6800 GLH back in the day when it was really a choice between HL2 or Doom3 performance. Little did I know at the time that ATIs drivers would catch the 6800ultra up easily. Was the biggest jump in performance I'd ever done going to the 6800. Love these cards.
Back when you didn't need to spend a ridiculous amount to run games at 60 FPS. I was an avid gamer PC gamer from 1995 to 2004 and was able to get by with decent hardware at the time. When I got back into gaming this year, I was unable to run anything on my hardware despite having the latest hardware.
Ah, a little journey to my youth... But i had radeon 9800 pro
I remeber there was an unofficial patch for Bioshock to make it run on X800/SM2.0 cards.
😍🥰 This was used in my first pc dream build. It burned out after a couple years though
Ah, I was wondering why Q4 looks terrible on my 5600XT. Cheers, Phil
Check PCGamingWiki or GOG forums for workaround.
Quake 4 has no source code release, like DOOM 3. So fixes is all one can do.
Doom 3 runs well on dhewm 3 btw.
Urban Chaos has the same issue and it's a much older game. I use DGVoodoo2 to create a DLL that fools the game into thinking my 1060 actually only has 64mb of vram and now the game runs with the textures I remember when I was a kid (was questioning why D'arci's body armor had "Police" extremely blurry)
Also, Sims 2 locks out all graphical options if it doesn't recognize your card, but there's a good workaround for it already, though I didn't test with DGV2
@@OfficialDJSoru The tricks on GOG forums did the trick for me
x1950 Pro was my favorite card in those years.
great channel , i love all this old stuff...
Back in the day my first "gaming pc" was a gateway and it had a P3 and it had a TNT2 , i inspired my mate to get the same PC and he got the same gateway and he got the TNT2 "ultra" , i was so jealous.
SUBBED !!
I still have my x800xt AGP version and powered by single molex connector(obviously i dont use it anymore), damn that gpu was a beast, unfortunately it had only pixel shader 2.0 instead of 3.0 which was so bad when many games started to require it because the card had enough grunt to run them but no "modern" shader version, so the result was that many 2008 or newer games just didnt launch on it.
I used to have a club3d X800XL flashed to a full fledged x850xt pe, was an epic little graphics card! (edit XL not GTO)
i remember upgrading an emachines with this card so i could play half life 2. first time ever upgrading a computer, and the jump from integrated graphics to this was mind blowing.
X800 were epic. They could run many ps3 x360 games like tomb raider legend. Unreal tournament 3. Cod4. Ghost recon aw. Rainbow six vegas. Gears of war. Just cause. Nfs most wanted. Carbon. Undercover. And off course crysis. They were so powerfull
The first stand alone gpu I ever bought. Built my first system with this an a pentium D
I had one of these back in the day. The biggest issue I ran into with this card was lack of “Shader Model 3” support. Even though this card was more than capable to play games that came out just a few years after its release, they would just flat out not even launch because of that.
I had a high end Athlon and a 9600 Pro then a X850 Pro, fans died on both, don't recall what I replaced with but it definitely supported Shader model 3.0.
I had one of these cards but it was a better AIB unit with a different and quieter cooler on it. Last time an ATi/AMD card resided in my main PC actually but secondary PC and my kids PC's have sported Radeons since. Still have a HD3850 AGP card in spares bin but sold the X850XT PE to a friend to upgrade him back in the day. Nice retro flashback with my morning coffee today especially with the featured games as I played a lot of HL2 and Far Cry. Happy New Year!
I got this card secondhand for my first custom build with a Core 2 Duo. I remember that It worked pretty well for Crysis up until the part with the aliens and then performance got way worse. Such a beautiful card. Play more KotOR!
Even though I owned a GeForce 6800GS at the time and kept it until I got a 9600GT, I was always fond of the Radeons around that era because of my Aunt's PC having a mid-range model that combined with her faster CPU (Mine was an Athlon XP 2600+, hers was an Athlon64 3500+) made for an overall faster gaming PC in most titles although a few ran better on mine.
Now my retro PCs DX9 era GPUs are twin x1950Pro's in crossfire. :D