Amen amen! Im from LA. North in the foothills technically. We're in Kentucky now. Thankful for men like Voddie! Glad he's doing this work and work of Christian education in Zambia
There is no heaven. You believe in fairy tales with no proof and reject science, which has a high burden of proof. You'll want those harvard trained doctors to preform your surgeries when you need them because you're all a bunch of f*cking hypocrites; you won't be turning to these fake doctors of "theology". Your body knows there's no afterlife, that's why you fear death and try to survive as long as you can. There not being an afterlife is nothing to fear. You know what it feels like to not exist, we all didn't exist before we existed. Death is EXACTLY like that; like sleeping but not dreaming. The church just wants your money and Alisa just wants youtube views, ad revenue and for a group of insane, like-minded people to reconfirm the lies her parents filled her head with.
Thank you Alisa, for tackling topics that most Christians think, don't exist. Sadly, ignoring them only allows Satan to get a stronger hold on people's lives.
Satan doesn't gain strongholds through external forces. He goes into your very heart and demonizes a person. You can see the works of Satan in the world but it is from inside all of us. We are all currenting messing up and need to continually be repenting of our sins daily like scripture says. Liberals and Conservatives are equally wicked in the sight of God.
Amen I was having a conversation with a friend who always calls himself a Christian but always talks about the evils of the Democrats. I tell him both sides are evil and until we repent as a nation and put Jesus Christ into our leaders it is going to fall. As long as we keep dividing and not uniting it fails. Not saying there aren’t millions of people trying to unite things but at this point all I can continue today is be the light as much as I can and repent for my sins and continue to grow. Everyone keep praying and when evils comes before us in any form we be the light that destroys it. Praise God that we know the truth and we are His!!!
@@ashtonparker5581 Satan is able to use whatever God allows him to. If you want a good idea of how he works, read Frank Peretti's "This Present Darkness" and the sequel, "Piercing the Darkness". It's true that Satan works on each person, but it is foolish to think that that is all he does. However he works, and what ever he does, is restricted only by God. We, as Christians, need to put on our armor, and pray for discernment, in order to stand against everything he throws at us.
@@lorisharpe7397 "The inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons." - 1 Timothy 4:1 Sadly, many have ignored this warning and fallen prey to CRT and other such hateful, demonic teachings . . .
God bless Voddie. He changed my life and the next generation. I'm a homeschool mama today because of Children of Caesar. It so clarified God's word and convicted me. Being at home with my children has blessed our family beyond words. It has challenged, grown and blessed all of us. Thank you for this exposition of CRT.
the only way religion survives is by brainwashing kids when they are young and telling them what they believe rather than have them make their own choices...sad
@@iampostal My high school psychology teacher said this. It really threw me for a loop as I’d never really questioned the validity of my faith. So I researched apologetics - mainly the resurrection. If that’s not true, then Christianity is a lie. I concluded it’s true. But one can believe that and still be lost. Seeing myself as someone in need of forgiveness came later. I’d grown up with faith, but that teacher’s challenge sort of took me back to square one. And that’s ok. What’s your story?
I've been watching a lot of his stuff with my kids. He is such an amazing person. I am so grateful for good people like him, blessing us with truth and sound doctrine. I'm home with my children, as well. It's so important, and such a massive gift for the whole family. I love being uplifted and edified by wise and loving examples of our Savior, Jesus Christ. xoxo!
After writing a letter to the leaders of my church about this topic, I offered to provide any and all of them Vodie's amazing book, if they agreed to read it. Perfect guest for your show Alisa! Well done getting him on.
That book is trash. It does not properly or factually expounds on the African American experience. Some of us African Americans only care to make European Americans to feel safe and not guilty for capitalizing on generational wealth, predatory lending and unjust business practices. Americans want everone to sing the songs of a glorious past, yet totally deny the real stories from which they have derived. But the LORD will help those who are oppressed.
@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 ... No, you believe in a system that makes you comfortable, because faith in GOD causes you to abandon personal opinion. Have fun.
It all has to do with sin, not skin. We are merely different shades of the same color. Great convo, Alisa & Dr. Voddie. “I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.” Romans 16:17-18 (ESV)
I 100% agree... The Word of GOD also says their sin manifest in different ways 1. The Sin of Witchcraft 2. The Sin of sexually immorality 3. Sin of Idolatry 4. Proverbs 16 :19 false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. The problem with American Christians is, the will place the Flag and their revisionist history above the Word Of GOD. You are also correct, Its not about skin, it's about culture... just as Israel and Samaritans had differences. European Culture put Wester African Culture in bondage, and try to justify their sin by using the Bible.
I belong to a church that has mixed-race couples and my Pastor is from the hood. More than half the congregation is African American. We as a church are trying to love one another and draw closer to God through the carefully worded exposition of Scripture. What you do not see is wringing hands or complaining about life's injustices. We also do not draw attention to ourselves or blow our own horns. We are being the Church and if you want to hear the Word, please come on over.
That is good news, sister Michelle. But there are other churches which no longer exist due to arson. And don't fool yourself, you just blew your "own horn."
I love Voddie Baucham! He is so good at explaining things in a way that is easy to understand yet doesn't ever come across condescending or "better than." His speech is so accessible and intelligent and friendly. Thanks for having him on your show!!
Thank you Voddie for saying fight for your Pastor I praise God for my Pastor, Alex Sands he is a great expository teacher and I do fight for him but because we are in the SBC, I do have concerns so we pray,pray,pray.
I’ve heard Pastor Voddie say that there are only two races The race of the first Adam ( sin and death) and the race of the second Adam, Jesus Christ. I choose to be in the race of Christ! Lord bless you all!
Good choice, but we also have to see how we are still stuck in the world of the prodigal son to be able to extricate ourselves from it with the help of our Teacher, the Holy Spirit.
Evil Democrats, billionaires, & RINOs are dividing and conquering America. There's a way to divide and conquer them first. My TH-cam name is a dotCom website and you need to go there. Expect your life to likely extremely change in 10 minutes or less.
Our daughter was terrified of the police when she came home...in Ghana, they were terrifying! Here, in America, we took her up to officers to say hello and thank you for your service...it didn't take too long before she saw them as Helpers and Safety...
Im not sure what you are implying - but in America White Americans never have unjust problems with the police. According to your profile picture, you're not Black... But, if your daughter is Black, police now know she has white parents which will help if they remember. Also, no racist or corrupt officer will show their bad habits until their alone - just as any predator, criminal or thief.
I travel extensively in Mexico. I obey the laws and the cops never bother me. In the US I obey the laws and yet I still feel like the cops are always looking to make a crime where none exists. The cops in the US are predators.
@@lydiabouts8572 - It's nice that you're raising your daughter with self-esteem and a healthy attitude towards law enforcement. However, it's wise not to remain blind to the fact that some police officers abuse their power and victimise blacks and other people.
The question about how to handle it when someone tells your child that you adopted from Ethiopia that we, his parents, are "colonizing him"... That made me tear up. That is abuse. That is so immoral. It's cruel. It's heartless. That is an adult taking advantage of a child's innocence and vulnerability in order to inflict a racist, demoralizing, evil agenda on society, and not caring how much they hurt that child. That is sick and evil.
Or you can just sit your child down & explain WHY that was said in the first place... I hope that while you're teaching your Ethiopian child about not being a victim & focusing too much on race, that you at some point DO educate them on the horrible realities of what black people faced in the USA, so that she/he understands that that part of history should NOT repeat itself & in case he/she DOES face racism & has no idea why... We are NOT victims, but we will NOT be silent.
Praise God!! Thank you for having Voddie on to discuss his book it was on point! I am glad he was able to do the Q & A and address many of the concerns Christians have.
That's what matters in Ministry - Looks. Especially when people cannot discern you are teaching them New Age. She has her OWN SYMBOL! You all are blinded.. ALL is blue and full of symbology, but she "always looks beautiful".. Now on the INSIDE........
I am a white woman who raised a bi-ethnic son on my own. I never set out to raise him as a black man - just a man, who had character and loved God. Mission accomplished.
Always good to hear Dr. Baucham talk. I am the mother of a bi-ethnic child (he's 30 now) we taught him he was Christ's first and foremost his value was given to him because the God that spoke creation into being puts His love on our son through the blood of Christ. And the worst thing ever said about any of us was said on Calvary. Good stuff Alisa
QUESTION: Having watched many videos on this topic and seen this ideology taking hold everywhere including the church. What can we do besides just continue to talk about this? What actions should we be actively doing to help stop this and make other christians aware of its danger.
1) If you see it creeping into your church (in terms of maybe leadership promoting certain teachers or books), go to your pastor/elder with an open Bible and compare their ideology (know something about it and have some background) to the Word of God. This is the crux of 2 Corinthians 10:3-5. If you get push back, you need to then ask if they believe the God-breathed, sufficient Word (2 Timothy 3:16-17) over worldly philosophies promoted by sinful men (which Colossians 2:8 speaks against). 2) Warn individual believers that are falling for this in the same way. Go to scripture to let them see what the Bible says about these subjects. Show them that Acts 17:26 says God has made of one blood all nations of men; therefore there are no true "races" because we're all made in the image of God (Genesis 1:27). Show them that partiality is spoken against in James 2:4-9 and hatred in 1 John 3:15, which is the crux of "racism," therefore it should never be in the church. Show them the oneness we all have in Christ according to Galatians 3:28, Colossians 3:11, Ephesians 4:4-6, and 1 Corinthians 12:12-27. Let your Bible be your foundation for refuting these things. 3) Pray without ceasing (1 Thessalonians 5:17). We must never underestimate our prayers to God. And don't be discouraged if your warnings initially go unheeded because God can change their minds. 4) Keep studying/searching the scriptures yourself to make sure you know what is true (Acts 17:11, 2 Timothy 2:15). You can't speak against anything if you don't know what God says about it. And you can't teach others (particularly among Christian family and friends) if you don't know what the whole counsel of God says. 5) Don't be afraid to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15) whenever you can. Whether it is Bible study, social media, etc. Many Christians are ignorant about this threat because they veil it in Biblical language, therefore it may sound attractive and legitimate, when it isn't. 6) Finally, and most importantly, preach the gospel we're sent to do according to Romans 10:14-17. The gospel is the power of God unto salvation (Romans 1:16) and only salvation in Christ will make someone a new creature (2 Corinthians 5:17). We have to trust the Holy Spirit will change the hearts of sinners, and many people in the church advocating these things may just show that they're not truly saved. You can't know that for sure, but if a professed Christian is pushing back against scripture to show how dangerous these ideologies are, then it tells me what they truly think of God. You can't say you love God but hate His Word enough to continually argue against it. It may be time to go back to the gospel. Those are some of the things that can be done. I'm sure there are a lot of other actions we can take as Christians, but those are the first things that popped into my head. God bless.
@@janellegrace5815 Since that is such a vague statement, I'm not sure how to address it specifically, so I can only go by what I think you're insinuating. Examining history is fine, but basing every situation on past sins is not Biblical. And then ascribing guilt for those past sins based on how much melanin someone has in their skin (skin color) is also not correct. Sin is the transgression of the law according to 1 John 3:4; no one's melanin count is the transgression of the law. In addition, Deuteronomy 24:16 and Ezekiel 18:19-20 makes clear the sins of the fathers are not to be put upon the children. And today, many wrongs of history have been made right. When people want to bring things up to make it seem like it's fifty or a hundred years ago, it is a false narrative. And as Christians, if we have pent up unforgiveness towards others, it violates Ephesians 4:32 and Colossians 3:13. In fact, Jesus' words on forgiveness should make us all pause before we start making accusations (Matthew 6:14-15). The danger comes from trying to sow discord among brethren based on unbiblical ideologies (which Colossians 2:8 warns against), and this discord is something that God hates (read the end of Proverbs 6:19).
I worked for a pastor once that said she was the CEO of the church, and if one more person said her job was to Shepard peoples souls, she would scream. She somehow believed that was not her role. Refreshing to hear otherwise in this conversation.
Didn't get to attend due to work but it didn't disappoint! God bless you Voddie and thank you for speaking the truth in love ❤ Prayers for a whole and speedy recovery 🙏
At the end of the day Christians cannot serve Two Masters. You cannot serve Jesus and serve Critical Race Theory. You will ultimately love one and hate the other.
He made a comment in there about 'systems', rather than 'individuals'. It hit me that it's another form of works type salvation - no faith in God, only works. It dovetails with post-millennium teachings, where we as a world system will get better and better until God says we've reached 'the goal' and then He'll set up a divine kingdom. Clearly shows there is a spiritual element to this whole thing.
So true. As with all things, Satan creates counterfeits of everything godly. And unfortunately, Satan has become highly skilled in his craft of deception. Package everything to look good, but there is nothing but rot and corruption within. I have felt lately like God is removing the ground from beneath us, forcing each person to pick a side and stick to it. No more fence-sitting. We are truly in the last days, and all must make a choice...and like you said, there are only two options. These are intense but exciting times.
So good! Many good nuggets to meditate on and process. Our kids have bought CRT hook, line, and sinker. Family is divided. We, the parents, stand for the gospel truth, and we are being accused of abuse for not accepting our whiteness and wanting our kids to know and follow Christ. Been a really rough year. Haven’t seen grandson since Mother’s Day last year. CRT...ugh.
How sad! I will pray for healing for your family. My family is a bit divided on these issues as well but so far we have been able to remain civil and still on good terms so I’m very thankful for that but will continue to pray for our country, churches, and family who are being torn apart by these issues.
Evil Democrats, billionaires, & RINOs are dividing and conquering America. There's a way to divide and conquer them first. My TH-cam name is a dotCom website and you need to go there. Expect your life to likely extremely change in 10 minutes or less.
Great Man of God!! We are,(and IAM), truly blessed, to have you, contending for the faith!! And expounding and clarifying biblical truths!!!! May God's Divine Favor, continue to be upon you, your family, and your ministry!!!! ( Psalm 128: 1-4).
Colonization by adoption?? These are truly wicked thoughts. How can someone even think that? Don't you care about family? About what the kid would think of their parents?? Just wicked!
It is ridiculous. Voddie is right, where are the black people adopting black children? Who cares the color of their skin, any loving parents are better than a child left to sit in an orphanage or a bad home situation. My in-laws and their church adopted several siblings out of a very broken family. There should be no judgement on anyone willing to accept a child who is not theirs into their homes. Put your money where your mouth is before you cast stones.
"The 60's scoop" is something that happened here in Canada, and it clearly was "colonization by adoption", where children where forcefully taken from loving homes to be adopted into "white" families so that their indigenous culture could be taken from them. So, it is a thing. I am not sure why, if it is true, that black families do not adopt as much as white families. That is worth looking into. But it does little to undermine the concept of "colonization by adoption". It is a real strategy used by numerous governments to help eliminate the "native" problem.
@@jordanjtbraun it's possible that finances are an impediment. Black people tend to be poorer. Also, it'd be interesting to look at informal adoptions. Africans for instance, tend not to adopt formally but will raise the children of their relatives.
Am I preparing my children for Heaven or Harvard? That is so good! I’m a homeschool mom. One child finished college a year ago, one finishing college next year, and twins who are high school seniors this coming year. My biggest concern is that they have a foundation of truth with which to combat the bad theology they will undoubtedly encounter after their time in my classroom is completed. Thank you, Alisa, for doing this interview! And thank you, Voddie, for sharing with us and for your book. Excellent interview, my Christian brother and sister!! ❤️
Like many other folk I admire Dr Voddie and wish him good health and blessings . A humble preacher come teacher who is incredibly good to listen that I find my self watching everything he puts out.
Very disturbing to see this going on - it is happening in the church I work for - on a small scale right now moreso using the words justice and fighting racism -- I'm glad to see this excellent description of what is going on with Christian falling for this - I guess falling (away) would be an appropriate term
I agree with Voddie on this issue. My one disappointment in this discussion is that race vs ethnicity and social justice vs biblical justice were not clearly defined at the outset of the discussion. I would give the same critique of the book, although I think he does define these ideas throughout by example.
I really appreciate Voddie's comments about adoption. Had me saying "yes!" It really got me thinking, because this permeates the adoption community. Thank you!!
Thank you for touching this topic. I am so in agreement with you two. I have been so disappointed with how a big church in my area handled this last year in regards to one movement that was burning and destroying American cities over the last summer.
As a white guy married to a black woman, with 4 bi-ethnic kids, we never even thought to frame raising them to be more one or the other. We raised the to know that God loves them, and they are human beings with inherent value that is based on their being created in the image of God.
This has been a problem for decades. Church folks I have known have been more interested in securing a good seat in the afterlife and in praying for prosperity than in dealing with corruption of education and its consequences. When you see how little compassion there is in church congregations for their own congregants' suffering (unemployment, isolation, need for social capital, etc.) you can see that the congregation has faith in Church, not in Jesus.
_"When you see how little compassion there is in church congregations for their own congregants' suffering (unemployment, isolation, need for social capital, etc.) . . . "_ Believe it or not, the Bible foretold that many today would "be lovers of themselves ... boastful, proud, abusive ... ungrateful ... without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited." (2 Timothy 3:1-4) That's why such blatant hypocrisy is all too common nowadays.
If there are systemic problems (like Jim Crow laws or affirmative action) which cause our justice system to be a "respecter of persons" then it needs to be dealt with at that level rather than at the individual. Because the system itself is broken. The current racialist movements (like those pushed by BLM, Kendi, D'Angelo, etc...) are the cause of systemic racism in our moment in history. They're justifying bad behavior today with arguments that amount to a tribal blood feud. "Because your presumed ancestors sinned against my presumed ancestors, I'm going to sin against you and it's NECESSARY to make me whole as a person." Really sick stuff, but with some candy coating for those not paying attention
Wow, what a powerful voice in the midst of all this madness coming from the academic world and the media. This man lives in the real world like the rest of us and sees through the lies of the deceiver(s). Keep up the good work, Alisa, and God bless the two of you.
“Disparities of outcome is not proof of disparate treatment” Jonathan Haidt “People are born with different capabilities. Either they will be free and unequal or they will be equal bit no longer free” Sholtenytzyn, Gulag Archipelago
Disparities of outcome may not be proof of disparate treatments, but many times the two are linked. It does no good to deny it. Poverty is robbing us of a lot of talent. Unfortunately, that's just how the world will be until Jesus comes back and makes all things new.
That was so funny what you said about wondering if you’re even in the right family at some point in your growing up years. I was like that I was so different than my parents and my siblings and I’m still different. The only reason I know that I’m one of them is because I look like them. This has been a good podcast.
I haven't seen a lot of Voddie's videos yet, but am seeking to understand him as I believe he is truthful and objective in his views, and wants others to see things objectively and through the eyes of faith rather than narrative. I am also adopted, and was raised by parents of different ethnicities than mine. I grew up not really seeing race in the same way some do - I appreciated different cultures instead (my parents weren't even of the same ethnicity as one another). These two imperfect humans chose to take myself and my brother into their home and raise us to the best of their ability, not because they were racially motivated to do so...but because they felt that we needed parents. I will ALWAYS be grateful to them for making that choice, because it gave me the chance to experience unconditional love and support. They wanted to raise children and to provide a good home for them, that's all. There was no ulterior motive to them adopting me, and to suggest otherwise is just not reality and quite honestly, despicable in my eyes. When Voddie expressed his disdain for people accusing adoptive parents of having ulterior motives in their choice - and looking at the child as a "tool" to that end...it brought tears to my eyes. Notice I had not mentioned what my ethnicity is, nor my parents' ethnicity other than being different from mine, and theirs being different from one another? That's because none of that should really matter. They were 2 people who wanted to bring a child/children into their home to love and provide for them - who in their eyes, did not have the privilege of having parents. Yes, Voddie is correct...it IS a privilege to be adopted, but that "privilege" has nothing to do with ethnicity. Love in its true form has absolutely nothing to do with ethnicity. I've seen many parents adopt children of different ethnicity than their own, but the love is the same, the reason to adopt is the same. They love me, and I love them....period. As an adult I found I have a wide variety of biological ethnicities within my DNA. The only difference that knowledge made to me is appreciating even more cultures...I am still the same person I was before I knew any of that. I was privileged (not because of the melanin in my skin as Voddie says) to have been chosen and raised by loving parents, who also taught me to embrace different cultures and that people are all part of the same family...humanity. In my view, our difference in ethnicity enhanced my life and view of the world. It's because of that foundation and appreciation of different cultures that I've had friends from many different ethnicities my entire life, and I'm better for it.
So with the question asked at 21:41 when dealing with offense; should we not be overly concerned about offending someone else when we are coming from a biblical perspective?
I’m thankful Voddie has recovered and doing better. Praise the Lord!!
Voddie Baucham is a gift from the Lord! Greetings from my hometown of South LA. This guy changed my life.
Amen!
Mine too!
Amen All praise belongs to The Most High God.
Amen!! I absolutely love Voddie. He is so genuine, so Christlike and full of love and reason. I could listen to him speak all day long!
Amen amen! Im from LA. North in the foothills technically. We're in Kentucky now. Thankful for men like Voddie! Glad he's doing this work and work of Christian education in Zambia
Thank God Dr. Baucham is doing so well after his recent health concerns! His voice of Biblical Truth is badly needed in these times.
"I couldn't care less about people calling me names..." Voddie Baucham Such a blessing to have this pillar in the body of Christ. Love you man!
“What are we preparing our children for-Harvard or heaven?” So good!
Exactly! Our entire life must be for God. Nothing else can come first!
Harvard. LOL. That's indeed what some would think. To some, Harvard IS Heaven.
Love that!
Harvard
There is no heaven. You believe in fairy tales with no proof and reject science, which has a high burden of proof. You'll want those harvard trained doctors to preform your surgeries when you need them because you're all a bunch of f*cking hypocrites; you won't be turning to these fake doctors of "theology". Your body knows there's no afterlife, that's why you fear death and try to survive as long as you can. There not being an afterlife is nothing to fear. You know what it feels like to not exist, we all didn't exist before we existed. Death is EXACTLY like that; like sleeping but not dreaming. The church just wants your money and Alisa just wants youtube views, ad revenue and for a group of insane, like-minded people to reconfirm the lies her parents filled her head with.
Thank you Alisa, for tackling topics that most Christians think, don't exist. Sadly, ignoring them only allows Satan to get a stronger hold on people's lives.
Satan doesn't gain strongholds through external forces. He goes into your very heart and demonizes a person. You can see the works of Satan in the world but it is from inside all of us. We are all currenting messing up and need to continually be repenting of our sins daily like scripture says. Liberals and Conservatives are equally wicked in the sight of God.
Amen I was having a conversation with a friend who always calls himself a Christian but always talks about the evils of the Democrats. I tell him both sides are evil and until we repent as a nation and put Jesus Christ into our leaders it is going to fall. As long as we keep dividing and not uniting it fails. Not saying there aren’t millions of people trying to unite things but at this point all I can continue today is be the light as much as I can and repent for my sins and continue to grow. Everyone keep praying and when evils comes before us in any form we be the light that destroys it. Praise God that we know the truth and we are His!!!
@@ashtonparker5581 Satan is able to use whatever God allows him to. If you want a good idea of how he works, read Frank Peretti's "This Present Darkness" and the sequel, "Piercing the Darkness". It's true that Satan works on each person, but it is foolish to think that that is all he does.
However he works, and what ever he does, is restricted only by God. We, as Christians, need to put on our armor, and pray for discernment, in order to stand against everything he throws at us.
@@lorisharpe7397
"The inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons." - 1 Timothy 4:1
Sadly, many have ignored this warning and fallen prey to CRT and other such hateful, demonic teachings . . .
@@jopolanco8371 Yes it does. 👍 We are told even the very elect will be deceived, if possible.
Equality: equal opportunity
Equity: equal outcomes
Got it!
I was confused too, then a few months ago I realized they changed it.
@@junior6447 it is a slow, creeping evil they are pushing. They want us confused.
God bless Voddie. He changed my life and the next generation. I'm a homeschool mama today because of Children of Caesar. It so clarified God's word and convicted me. Being at home with my children has blessed our family beyond words. It has challenged, grown and blessed all of us. Thank you for this exposition of CRT.
That was the first time my husband and I heard VB too! Back in the day! Lol
the only way religion survives is by brainwashing kids when they are young and telling them what they believe rather than have them make their own choices...sad
@@iampostal My high school psychology teacher said this. It really threw me for a loop as I’d never really questioned the validity of my faith.
So I researched apologetics - mainly the resurrection. If that’s not true, then Christianity is a lie. I concluded it’s true.
But one can believe that and still be lost. Seeing myself as someone in need of forgiveness came later. I’d grown up with faith, but that teacher’s challenge sort of took me back to square one. And that’s ok.
What’s your story?
I've been watching a lot of his stuff with my kids. He is such an amazing person. I am so grateful for good people like him, blessing us with truth and sound doctrine. I'm home with my children, as well. It's so important, and such a massive gift for the whole family. I love being uplifted and edified by wise and loving examples of our Savior, Jesus Christ. xoxo!
God continue to bless you and your family. What a blessing that you are able to homeschool your children🙌🏻🏡📓📖
After writing a letter to the leaders of my church about this topic, I offered to provide any and all of them Vodie's amazing book, if they agreed to read it. Perfect guest for your show Alisa! Well done getting him on.
That book is trash. It does not properly or factually expounds on the African American experience. Some of us African Americans only care to make European Americans to feel safe and not guilty for capitalizing on generational wealth, predatory lending and unjust business practices. Americans want everone to sing the songs of a glorious past, yet totally deny the real stories from which they have derived. But the LORD will help those who are oppressed.
Any takers?
@@gorgo4910 nope! Not yet
@@praiselujahradio-show you believe a lie.
@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 ... No, you believe in a system that makes you comfortable, because faith in GOD causes you to abandon personal opinion. Have fun.
It all has to do with sin, not skin. We are merely different shades of the same color. Great convo, Alisa & Dr. Voddie. “I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.” Romans 16:17-18 (ESV)
well said!
So well put!
AMEN
Fine. It's sin. But that is just an abstract concept. Real sin incarnates itself in very real particular institutions, policies, and practices.
I 100% agree... The Word of GOD also says their sin manifest in different ways
1. The Sin of Witchcraft
2. The Sin of sexually immorality
3. Sin of Idolatry
4. Proverbs 16 :19 false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
The problem with American Christians is, the will place the Flag and their revisionist history above the Word Of GOD.
You are also correct, Its not about skin, it's about culture... just as Israel and Samaritans had differences. European Culture put Wester African Culture in bondage, and try to justify their sin by using the Bible.
I belong to a church that has mixed-race couples and my Pastor is from the hood. More than half the congregation is African American. We as a church are trying to love one another and draw closer to God through the carefully worded exposition of Scripture. What you do not see is wringing hands or complaining about life's injustices. We also do not draw attention to ourselves or blow our own horns. We are being the Church and if you want to hear the Word, please come on over.
Cool, where's your church located?
@@SaviorCross Grace Bible Church in Hayward, CA
@@SaviorCross Hayward, California-Grace Bible Church-Pastor Jesse Gistand
Beautiful
That is good news, sister Michelle. But there are other churches which no longer exist due to arson. And don't fool yourself, you just blew your "own horn."
I see interview. I see Voddie. I click. Real simple.
Thank you for another wonderful interview. Love listening to Voddie Baucham’s wisdom.
Great conversation! I feel strengthened to “destroy arguments & every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God”
I love Voddie Baucham! He is so good at explaining things in a way that is easy to understand yet doesn't ever come across condescending or "better than." His speech is so accessible and intelligent and friendly. Thanks for having him on your show!!
I once saw a shirt that said "Christ over culture." Choose Jesus over ALL.
Wow, this was so important. So blessed to hear Dr. Baucham speak for me the words I didn't have when thinking about all this.
Boddie blew me away. I never thought to come at CRT in these angles. Thank you both for such an enlightening discussion 🥰
Thank you Voddie for saying fight for your Pastor I praise God for my Pastor, Alex Sands he is a great expository teacher and I do fight for him but because we are in the SBC, I do have concerns so we pray,pray,pray.
I’ve heard Pastor Voddie say that there are only two races The race of the first Adam ( sin and death) and the race of the second Adam, Jesus Christ. I choose to be in the race of Christ! Lord bless you all!
Good choice, but we also have to see how we are still stuck in the world of the prodigal son to be able to extricate ourselves from it with the help of our Teacher, the Holy Spirit.
@@robertdouglas8895 The Holy Spirit tells me to spread the gospel of Christ not the gospel of crt..
There's only one race - the human race! Sounds good though...
@@laroysterjr not if you’re a believer in Jesus Christ. He came to save us from our own sin.
Evil Democrats, billionaires, & RINOs are dividing and conquering America.
There's a way to divide and conquer them first.
My TH-cam name is a dotCom website and you need to go there.
Expect your life to likely extremely change in 10 minutes or less.
Our daughter was terrified of the police when she came home...in Ghana, they were terrifying! Here, in America, we took her up to officers to say hello and thank you for your service...it didn't take too long before she saw them as Helpers and Safety...
Im not sure what you are implying - but in America White Americans never have unjust problems with the police. According to your profile picture, you're not Black... But, if your daughter is Black, police now know she has white parents which will help if they remember. Also, no racist or corrupt officer will show their bad habits until their alone - just as any predator, criminal or thief.
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I travel extensively in Mexico. I obey the laws and the cops never bother me.
In the US I obey the laws and yet I still feel like the cops are always looking to make a crime where none exists. The cops in the US are predators.
@@lydiabouts8572 Ignoring racism is agreeing with racism.
@@lydiabouts8572 - It's nice that you're raising your daughter with self-esteem and a healthy attitude towards law enforcement. However, it's wise not to remain blind to the fact that some police officers abuse their power and victimise blacks and other people.
So gladly you have recovered from your surgery. The mercy and grace of God.
Voddie & Alisa?! Woohoo! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
The question about how to handle it when someone tells your child that you adopted from Ethiopia that we, his parents, are "colonizing him"... That made me tear up. That is abuse. That is so immoral. It's cruel. It's heartless. That is an adult taking advantage of a child's innocence and vulnerability in order to inflict a racist, demoralizing, evil agenda on society, and not caring how much they hurt that child. That is sick and evil.
Or you can just sit your child down & explain WHY that was said in the first place...
I hope that while you're teaching your Ethiopian child about not being a victim & focusing too much on race, that you at some point DO educate them on the horrible realities of what black people faced in the USA, so that she/he understands that that part of history should NOT repeat itself & in case he/she DOES face racism & has no idea why...
We are NOT victims, but we will NOT be silent.
Read up on Thomas Sowell’s work, whether via videos, books or Audible. This man is a national treasure!!! 🙏💖💕
@@Hoodwinkedist good response. Even if the parents don't teach the child, the outside world will so it's better for it to come from home.
Praise God!! Thank you for having Voddie on to discuss his book it was on point! I am glad he was able to do the Q & A and address many of the concerns Christians have.
Alisa looks beautiful.
.....bro
Alisa is very beautiful and humble and intelligent... God bless your ministry Alisha
That's what matters in Ministry - Looks. Especially when people cannot discern you are teaching them New Age. She has her OWN SYMBOL! You all are blinded.. ALL is blue and full of symbology, but she "always looks beautiful".. Now on the INSIDE........
Two of my favorite Christian apologists! Great to see this interview!
I am a white woman who raised a bi-ethnic son on my own. I never set out to raise him as a black man - just a man, who had character and loved God. Mission accomplished.
Toll paid.
@@wafflesmcgallagher934 Believe me, it wasn't without cost.
I listen to ALL Voddie has to say. Your questions brought up some new (to me) dialogue. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Cheers!
-Danya
46:00 mark I about cried. My wife and I are considering adopting and that really hit home.
Thank you Voddie. you are a blessing.
Great interview. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
Fantastic interview! Well done. It’s good to hear from Voddie Baucham again & be encouraged in truth.
“Find a pastor you can talk to...” Easier said than done!
Always good to hear Dr. Baucham talk. I am the mother of a bi-ethnic child (he's 30 now) we taught him he was Christ's first and foremost his value was given to him because the God that spoke creation into being puts His love on our son through the blood of Christ. And the worst thing ever said about any of us was said on Calvary.
Good stuff Alisa
QUESTION: Having watched many videos on this topic and seen this ideology taking hold everywhere including the church. What can we do besides just continue to talk about this? What actions should we be actively doing to help stop this and make other christians aware of its danger.
1) If you see it creeping into your church (in terms of maybe leadership promoting certain teachers or books), go to your pastor/elder with an open Bible and compare their ideology (know something about it and have some background) to the Word of God. This is the crux of 2 Corinthians 10:3-5. If you get push back, you need to then ask if they believe the God-breathed, sufficient Word (2 Timothy 3:16-17) over worldly philosophies promoted by sinful men (which Colossians 2:8 speaks against).
2) Warn individual believers that are falling for this in the same way. Go to scripture to let them see what the Bible says about these subjects. Show them that Acts 17:26 says God has made of one blood all nations of men; therefore there are no true "races" because we're all made in the image of God (Genesis 1:27). Show them that partiality is spoken against in James 2:4-9 and hatred in 1 John 3:15, which is the crux of "racism," therefore it should never be in the church. Show them the oneness we all have in Christ according to Galatians 3:28, Colossians 3:11, Ephesians 4:4-6, and 1 Corinthians 12:12-27. Let your Bible be your foundation for refuting these things.
3) Pray without ceasing (1 Thessalonians 5:17). We must never underestimate our prayers to God. And don't be discouraged if your warnings initially go unheeded because God can change their minds.
4) Keep studying/searching the scriptures yourself to make sure you know what is true (Acts 17:11, 2 Timothy 2:15). You can't speak against anything if you don't know what God says about it. And you can't teach others (particularly among Christian family and friends) if you don't know what the whole counsel of God says.
5) Don't be afraid to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15) whenever you can. Whether it is Bible study, social media, etc. Many Christians are ignorant about this threat because they veil it in Biblical language, therefore it may sound attractive and legitimate, when it isn't.
6) Finally, and most importantly, preach the gospel we're sent to do according to Romans 10:14-17. The gospel is the power of God unto salvation (Romans 1:16) and only salvation in Christ will make someone a new creature (2 Corinthians 5:17). We have to trust the Holy Spirit will change the hearts of sinners, and many people in the church advocating these things may just show that they're not truly saved. You can't know that for sure, but if a professed Christian is pushing back against scripture to show how dangerous these ideologies are, then it tells me what they truly think of God. You can't say you love God but hate His Word enough to continually argue against it. It may be time to go back to the gospel.
Those are some of the things that can be done. I'm sure there are a lot of other actions we can take as Christians, but those are the first things that popped into my head. God bless.
Being honest about history is not dangerous
@@janellegrace5815 Since that is such a vague statement, I'm not sure how to address it specifically, so I can only go by what I think you're insinuating. Examining history is fine, but basing every situation on past sins is not Biblical. And then ascribing guilt for those past sins based on how much melanin someone has in their skin (skin color) is also not correct. Sin is the transgression of the law according to 1 John 3:4; no one's melanin count is the transgression of the law. In addition, Deuteronomy 24:16 and Ezekiel 18:19-20 makes clear the sins of the fathers are not to be put upon the children.
And today, many wrongs of history have been made right. When people want to bring things up to make it seem like it's fifty or a hundred years ago, it is a false narrative. And as Christians, if we have pent up unforgiveness towards others, it violates Ephesians 4:32 and Colossians 3:13. In fact, Jesus' words on forgiveness should make us all pause before we start making accusations (Matthew 6:14-15). The danger comes from trying to sow discord among brethren based on unbiblical ideologies (which Colossians 2:8 warns against), and this discord is something that God hates (read the end of Proverbs 6:19).
@@2timothy23 you have missed the mark, all I can say is may your heart be open when God gives you another chance to accept it.
@Jennifer Mugrage crt is not essentialism. It seems that you are not educated on this topic, yet are passionately against it.
What a great interview. Thank you so much Alisa
This man is AMAZING!!! So glad I got to watch this interview. Thank you!!!
Yay Voddie! He is such a blessing. Love listening to him speak!
A Wonderful discourse Dr. Voddie Baucham and thank you and Alisa for this. Amen.
Man I learn so much from Voddie!! He is a man that deeply loves God and cares about the truth if his word
Great talk! Thank you Voddie for your dedication in preserving The Gospel!
Haven't watched the video yet, but I wanted to congratulate Alisa for reaching 100k subscribers. Congratulations! 🎉🎉🎉
Baucham and Childers is a pairing I never realized we needed
I worked for a pastor once that said she was the CEO of the church, and if one more person said her job was to Shepard peoples souls, she would scream. She somehow believed that was not her role. Refreshing to hear otherwise in this conversation.
I love Voddie. He is a tremendous blessing to the Church of Christ, and to me as a genuine believer.
Didn't get to attend due to work but it didn't disappoint! God bless you Voddie and thank you for speaking the truth in love ❤
Prayers for a whole and speedy recovery 🙏
This was incredible!! Thank you, Alisa and Voddie!
At the end of the day Christians cannot serve Two Masters. You cannot serve Jesus and serve Critical Race Theory. You will ultimately love one and hate the other.
@Cardio 123 Please explain.
So true❤
Amen
He made a comment in there about 'systems', rather than 'individuals'. It hit me that it's another form of works type salvation - no faith in God, only works.
It dovetails with post-millennium teachings, where we as a world system will get better and better until God says we've reached 'the goal' and then He'll set up a divine kingdom.
Clearly shows there is a spiritual element to this whole thing.
So true. As with all things, Satan creates counterfeits of everything godly. And unfortunately, Satan has become highly skilled in his craft of deception. Package everything to look good, but there is nothing but rot and corruption within. I have felt lately like God is removing the ground from beneath us, forcing each person to pick a side and stick to it. No more fence-sitting. We are truly in the last days, and all must make a choice...and like you said, there are only two options. These are intense but exciting times.
So good! Many good nuggets to meditate on and process. Our kids have bought CRT hook, line, and sinker. Family is divided. We, the parents, stand for the gospel truth, and we are being accused of abuse for not accepting our whiteness and wanting our kids to know and follow Christ. Been a really rough year. Haven’t seen grandson since Mother’s Day last year. CRT...ugh.
How sad! I will pray for healing for your family. My family is a bit divided on these issues as well but so far we have been able to remain civil and still on good terms so I’m very thankful for that but will continue to pray for our country, churches, and family who are being torn apart by these issues.
@@b_caldwell1057 Thank you for your prayers. Nothing is too big for our God.
Have you tried bringing out the spanky spoon again? Lol never too old for a good woopin.
Voddie is the man!! So glad you got him on!
Thank you for this interview. It is very encouraging.
This is wonderful! So thankful for your work Voddie.
As a christian I support social justice
This guest was amazing
Evil Democrats, billionaires, & RINOs are dividing and conquering America.
There's a way to divide and conquer them first.
My TH-cam name is a dotCom website and you need to go there.
Expect your life to likely extremely change in 10 minutes or less.
Great Man of God!! We are,(and IAM), truly blessed, to have you, contending for the faith!! And expounding and clarifying biblical truths!!!! May God's Divine Favor, continue to be upon you, your family, and your ministry!!!! ( Psalm 128: 1-4).
Wonderful guest. So much wisdom and truth. 🙏 Thankyou 🙏
Colonization by adoption?? These are truly wicked thoughts. How can someone even think that? Don't you care about family? About what the kid would think of their parents?? Just wicked!
It is ridiculous. Voddie is right, where are the black people adopting black children? Who cares the color of their skin, any loving parents are better than a child left to sit in an orphanage or a bad home situation. My in-laws and their church adopted several siblings out of a very broken family. There should be no judgement on anyone willing to accept a child who is not theirs into their homes. Put your money where your mouth is before you cast stones.
"The 60's scoop" is something that happened here in Canada, and it clearly was "colonization by adoption", where children where forcefully taken from loving homes to be adopted into "white" families so that their indigenous culture could be taken from them. So, it is a thing.
I am not sure why, if it is true, that black families do not adopt as much as white families. That is worth looking into. But it does little to undermine the concept of "colonization by adoption". It is a real strategy used by numerous governments to help eliminate the "native" problem.
@@jordanjtbraun it's possible that finances are an impediment. Black people tend to be poorer. Also, it'd be interesting to look at informal adoptions. Africans for instance, tend not to adopt formally but will raise the children of their relatives.
Wise man. A pleasure to listen to him.
Whoa, bless this man. I need more of this. Plant some good seeds, sir. Raise up an army whose weapon is love.
Am I preparing my children for Heaven or Harvard? That is so good! I’m a homeschool mom. One child finished college a year ago, one finishing college next year, and twins who are high school seniors this coming year. My biggest concern is that they have a foundation of truth with which to combat the bad theology they will undoubtedly encounter after their time in my classroom is completed. Thank you, Alisa, for doing this interview! And thank you, Voddie, for sharing with us and for your book. Excellent interview, my Christian brother and sister!! ❤️
Pray for Voddie’s health and long life
Anyplace that starts in with this, I walk. It is priest craft to pander to younger congregants. Voddie is tuned in correctly.
Rev. Dr. Baucham, your wisdom is a great inspiration to me...thank you!
What else is intersectionality but a "fault" line?
I love it.
Like many other folk I admire Dr Voddie and wish him good health and blessings . A humble preacher come teacher who is incredibly good to listen that I find my self watching everything he puts out.
Very disturbing to see this going on - it is happening in the church I work for - on a small scale right now moreso using the words justice and fighting racism -- I'm glad to see this excellent description of what is going on with Christian falling for this - I guess falling (away) would be an appropriate term
I agree with Voddie on this issue. My one disappointment in this discussion is that race vs ethnicity and social justice vs biblical justice were not clearly defined at the outset of the discussion. I would give the same critique of the book, although I think he does define these ideas throughout by example.
💝 Amen. A Beautiful Bride, there is no condemnation in Christ Jesus, Glory!
Please watch the video - ''Body of Christ Vs . Bride of Christ'' on the youtube-channel ''Truth Time Radio''
@@thegospelmessenger1corinth634
The same
Just noticed this video thank God for Mr. Bauchman, a true teacher and believer
If individuals are capable of favoritism, partiality and explicit biases (racism), why can't that be in organizations and institutions as well?
How easy is it to develop an institution where individuals all think & act alike without argument or need for discussion, meetings, or votes?
@@carolynbelton3455 I think depravity can exist anywhere, doesn't have to be a new institution
Simple as.
Love this guy! No nonsense... appreciate listening to him and his teachings! Gotta get the book. 👍
I really appreciate Voddie's comments about adoption. Had me saying "yes!" It really got me thinking, because this permeates the adoption community. Thank you!!
Thank you for touching this topic. I am so in agreement with you two. I have been so disappointed with how a big church in my area handled this last year in regards to one movement that was burning and destroying American cities over the last summer.
Praise the LORD for giving Voddie wisdom! Thankful for him being a vessel used for honor! Love you Brother!
As a white guy married to a black woman, with 4 bi-ethnic kids, we never even thought to frame raising them to be more one or the other. We raised the to know that God loves them, and they are human beings with inherent value that is based on their being created in the image of God.
This has been a problem for decades. Church folks I have known have been more interested in securing a good seat in the afterlife and in praying for prosperity than in dealing with corruption of education and its consequences. When you see how little compassion there is in church congregations for their own congregants' suffering (unemployment, isolation, need for social capital, etc.) you can see that the congregation has faith in Church, not in Jesus.
_"When you see how little compassion there is in church congregations for their own congregants' suffering (unemployment, isolation, need for social capital, etc.) . . . "_
Believe it or not, the Bible foretold that many today would "be lovers of themselves ... boastful, proud, abusive ... ungrateful ... without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited." (2 Timothy 3:1-4)
That's why such blatant hypocrisy is all too common nowadays.
Yes, nothing to do with the heart, all about structured systems! Great point!
If there are systemic problems (like Jim Crow laws or affirmative action) which cause our justice system to be a "respecter of persons" then it needs to be dealt with at that level rather than at the individual. Because the system itself is broken.
The current racialist movements (like those pushed by BLM, Kendi, D'Angelo, etc...) are the cause of systemic racism in our moment in history.
They're justifying bad behavior today with arguments that amount to a tribal blood feud. "Because your presumed ancestors sinned against my presumed ancestors, I'm going to sin against you and it's NECESSARY to make me whole as a person."
Really sick stuff, but with some candy coating for those not paying attention
22:25 key to understanding!!!
God bless Voddie!!
Nah, nothing is as good as The Gospel and the word of God.
This is so helpful. Thank you for having this conversation.
No words. So good! Thank you!!!
Wow, what a powerful voice in the midst of all this madness coming from the academic world and the media. This man lives in the real world like the rest of us and sees through the lies of the deceiver(s). Keep up the good work, Alisa, and God bless the two of you.
enjoyed Dr vootee
“Disparities of outcome is not proof of disparate treatment”
Jonathan Haidt
“People are born with different capabilities. Either they will be free and unequal or they will be equal bit no longer free”
Sholtenytzyn, Gulag Archipelago
If we are intent on judging by group identity instead individualism, disparities are always going to be proof of disparate treatment.
Disparities of outcome may not be proof of disparate treatments, but many times the two are linked. It does no good to deny it. Poverty is robbing us of a lot of talent. Unfortunately, that's just how the world will be until Jesus comes back and makes all things new.
This was very well done!
Glory to God and the Lamb of God forever. This is great stuff thank you so much for y'all's work. I pray God's riches blessings upon both of you. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Amen, Amen, Always good to see and hear Pastor Voddie. Fault Lines is the book to read!!!!
This is excellent and I understand CRT etc more clearly. Thanks!
Wow! This interview along teach me so much!
Thank you both in advance
Awesome! Not expecting a book club! That sounds great
Cool to see now! Great points now! Great video now@07-22-2021####09:45AM now! Keep up the good work now! Be well now!
Seriously love Bauchum's insights as we as reformists lead a humble Christian life.
Love Voddie. So wise... tention under pressure...
That was so funny what you said about wondering if you’re even in the right family at some point in your growing up years. I was like that I was so different than my parents and my siblings and I’m still different. The only reason I know that I’m one of them is because I look like them. This has been a good podcast.
I haven't seen a lot of Voddie's videos yet, but am seeking to understand him as I believe he is truthful and objective in his views, and wants others to see things objectively and through the eyes of faith rather than narrative. I am also adopted, and was raised by parents of different ethnicities than mine. I grew up not really seeing race in the same way some do - I appreciated different cultures instead (my parents weren't even of the same ethnicity as one another). These two imperfect humans chose to take myself and my brother into their home and raise us to the best of their ability, not because they were racially motivated to do so...but because they felt that we needed parents. I will ALWAYS be grateful to them for making that choice, because it gave me the chance to experience unconditional love and support. They wanted to raise children and to provide a good home for them, that's all. There was no ulterior motive to them adopting me, and to suggest otherwise is just not reality and quite honestly, despicable in my eyes. When Voddie expressed his disdain for people accusing adoptive parents of having ulterior motives in their choice - and looking at the child as a "tool" to that end...it brought tears to my eyes. Notice I had not mentioned what my ethnicity is, nor my parents' ethnicity other than being different from mine, and theirs being different from one another? That's because none of that should really matter. They were 2 people who wanted to bring a child/children into their home to love and provide for them - who in their eyes, did not have the privilege of having parents. Yes, Voddie is correct...it IS a privilege to be adopted, but that "privilege" has nothing to do with ethnicity. Love in its true form has absolutely nothing to do with ethnicity. I've seen many parents adopt children of different ethnicity than their own, but the love is the same, the reason to adopt is the same. They love me, and I love them....period. As an adult I found I have a wide variety of biological ethnicities within my DNA. The only difference that knowledge made to me is appreciating even more cultures...I am still the same person I was before I knew any of that. I was privileged (not because of the melanin in my skin as Voddie says) to have been chosen and raised by loving parents, who also taught me to embrace different cultures and that people are all part of the same family...humanity. In my view, our difference in ethnicity enhanced my life and view of the world. It's because of that foundation and appreciation of different cultures that I've had friends from many different ethnicities my entire life, and I'm better for it.
So with the question asked at 21:41 when dealing with offense; should we not be overly concerned about offending someone else when we are coming from a biblical perspective?
If you are presenting the gospel as it is laid out in the Bible, then no, you cannot be concerned about any offense the message might bring.