I was just going to say that reminded me of Elizabeth nj . I was a track foreman for Amtrak. Started in 1977 retired just short of 42 years. Amazing workmanship and those are the best looking catenary structures I have ever seen modeled-superb!
ANDY IS THE GREATEST HO LAYOUT MODEL RAILROAD BUILDER AND MAKER I HAVE EVER SEEN! AND I USED TO GET MODEL RAILROADER WHEN I WAS A KID...Just look at the catenary! This was the corridor between NY and DC!!!! I am 64 years old and I have never seen anything any where like Rubbo's rails! PLEASE GIVE HIM MY BEST! NGAI O - AKA Arthur Napier Burghardt I hear the rocker brother Rod Stewart has an incredible NYCentral line running north out of his Grand Central! But Andy's work here is the greatest...
While the Pennsylvania Railroad will always be an enduring institution for many things in railroading, the electrified lines between New York and Washington are symbolic of the brilliance of this old company. This gentleman captures the essence of its greatness in this layout. Bravo!
Daaaamn...this layout is SERIOUS!! This IS the best catenary layout I have seen hands down, straight up! Everything - the trains, weathering, scenery, signals - looks absolutely fan-tastic! I would love to see more of this; not to mention seeing this in person.
Andy's work belongs in the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC! This layout is a shrine, Crazyman, to your friend and our modeling icon, Andy Rubbo! This is still the greatest Pennsy layout I have EVER seen! If I caught the Broadway Limited at Trenton for DC, I stepped out of my past and into Andy's layout! Thanks, again...
Some of this footage reminds me of the Enola Yards on the West Shore of the Susquehanna River near Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. The tunnel shots remind me of Marysville, PA. Cool!
I model the NEC in n scale. I have catenary on all my main lines. It is so labor intensive. But our passion for detail and Pennsylvania electrics drives us for perfection.
WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW! and WOW!!!!!!....most fantastic catenary i've ever seen in any scale.....but the Elizabeth scenes belong in a museum, i've seen very few layouts or dioramas anywhere (and i include dioramas on other subjects) that made me feel like i was right there.......kudos to crazyman and to Andy Rubbo......i'm a PRRTHS member and i'll have to look up his Keystone Modeler article(s).....wish this were easy in n-scale.
Seeing this layout with the Cat system has given me quite a thrill, there are others on YT, but this one is very special, I will download it for future enjoyable viewing. Thank You for sharing...SantaFeDu
Absolutely the best model of PRR catenary I have ever seen. Too bad the pans aren't taking advantage of it. I would echo what another commentor said; Maybe Andy could work on the spring tension of the pantographs.
If I had this overhead catenary layout, in my basement and head awesome room. I could imagine watching 43 car mail- express, trains, 19 car , ACL bound Champions, 14 car Congressional , The Patriot from Boston, The 17 car Silver Methor, the Penn-Texas to ST, Louis, The Manhattan LTD, with a ton of head cars, auto parts freight trains , the Broker heading to Bay Head,Jct: from Jersey city, Exchange place. I could spend all day down in the basement. WOW. GOOD WORK.
@crazyman762 It's an awesome representation, even with the pantographs down. I wonder if the spring pressure of the pantographs could be changed to run with them raised, but either way, this is an amazing layout.
Great clip. This layout is 3D art. Not too many layouts on here make the cover of a Great Model Railroads annual. Wish you had more clips of this amazing layout showing train action on the Northeast Corridor in 1967. Or maybe a cabride clip over the whole layout. How badass would that be??? Oh well, I can dream. Thanks for this short, but amazing clip though.
This is amazing work! I have Andy's article from the Keystone Modeler and eventually I might build catenary based on his instructions and am looking forward to seeing hus layout in GMR 2012. If you could ever get more shots of his layout I would love to see!
The recent edition of Model Railroader (June 2001) has a photo of this laypout in the section called "Trackside photos." Would love to see this railroad in MR, or RMC or in Allen Keller's "Great Model Railroad" dvd series. This is something I aspire to when I build my own HO model railroad (except I'll be modeling 1938 - 58 part of NJ, even Trenton's station, going to NYC)-though Andy is modeling the era I remember the most clear,
Incredible. Photos show the pantographs up-I assume they run that way now. Blown away by the depiction of Elizabeth, NJ (w/ the CNJ in the background). Love the NE corridor. Wanting to model Trenton, NJ station & "environs." What's the size of the layout? Track plan? Why isn't something like this in Model Railroader or Railroad Model Craftsman?
6 track section Rahway to Linden and its then 4 tracks Linden to Newark Penn with a 2 track section Newark to 34th Street Penn Station via Secaucus Junction since I've been through the Section he modeled in a NJ Transit Arrow III during 2004
HO scale is about 87.1:1. During the GG1 days the real PRR catenary ran at around 12 kV and 25 Hz, so to proper scale it should be 138 volts and 0.287 Hz. :-)
Andy has MADE his own panotographs that make contact with the catenary - so STOP complaining about it! Like anyone else here has a better PRR layout with full catenary! The panotographs break away with the slightest snag and keep the catenary intact. I just have not been there to see it, or make a new video clip.
Arne Wangen He was trying to say that since he took the video, the owner eventually did make pantographs that touch the wires. But I do agree though....seeing a GG1 with its pantograph down is like seeing a steam engine move without the rods moving. Something just seems to be missing. I'm curious to see what it looks like now with the new pantographs!
I was going to also make a comment about how having the pantograph down kind of ruined the illusion. But I see that has been addressed. Since running with the pantograph in contact with the catenary is fraught with potential snags, can the catenary be fixed into the up position, but just below the wire so it gives the illusion of contact? That could be a possible solution.
Andy Rubbo is a genius. This takes me back! I am a native of Baltimore and lived in Manhattan. I remember the old Penn Station and loved it...Tnank God they haven't razed Grand Central. I am an old fan of Pennsy, NY Central and the B&O railroads! This layout is so beautiful that it is almost indescribably BEAUTIFUL...THANKS, ARTHUR BURGHARDT "NgaiO" PS...did Andy build the catenary from scratch?
I have not checked this clip in about a year. I had no idea it has been viewed over 6000 times! (:->) Thanks for checking it out. Andy uses .010 wire for the trolley wire making it very in scale VERY fragile as well. With the spring tension of out of the box HO pantographs it deflects the catenary. If Andy went for full contact disaster would happen eventually & rip down years of painstaking catenary work. The no pantograph contact does not detract from seeing the otherwise amazing layout.
Great looking layout IMO. What is modeled besides the Elizabeth/Newark area? I live right up the road in Highland Park and grew up next to the tracks - its a dream of mine to one day build my own NEC layout.
very cool layout...so far this is the second vid besides mine of an E44 tht i've seen....very cool..its so quiet it could be an Alco model products unit but Alpha models could have made it aswell...do u know who made the E44?...very cool vid!!
No narration. Just video of running trains. Unfortunately there no comentary or description of what makes this layout so special. Who ever created this video did a real disservice to the modeler.
Well up until now from what I have seen nothing beats this I mean nothing the cherry model club is good but this is impeccable except for one thing you don’t run the pantagraghs up when running your trains what’s up with that.
At 0:23 I thought I was seeing things, but at 0:57 I saw it again. HOW DID HE GET THE OBS CAR TO THE CONGRESSIONAL/SENATOR? I can't find anywhere that makes that model.
Challenger did them in brass some years ago. The Congo (POC85B) and Senator (POC85C) observations were slightly different but I know they did both versions.
I agree why put all that work in and don't use the pantographs on The GG-1 it's a Sin. also I have seen better Layouts, Like my Pike also in HO, before I did 30x40 in N-Gauge.
Joe, Please send me any photos of your HO or N scale layout. bill@lanestrains.com I am VERY interested in seeing them. Also if you would have read my numerous previous comments that Andy MADE new pantographs that contact the trolley wires now. I just have not been there to see and record his progress yet.
I was just going to say that reminded me of Elizabeth nj . I was a track foreman for Amtrak. Started in 1977 retired just short of 42 years. Amazing workmanship and those are the best looking catenary structures I have ever seen modeled-superb!
I worked between Philly and new Rochelle.
ANDY IS THE GREATEST HO LAYOUT MODEL RAILROAD BUILDER AND MAKER I HAVE EVER SEEN! AND I USED TO GET MODEL RAILROADER WHEN I WAS A KID...Just look at the catenary! This was the corridor between NY and DC!!!! I am 64 years old and I have never seen anything any where like Rubbo's rails! PLEASE GIVE HIM MY BEST! NGAI O - AKA Arthur Napier Burghardt I hear the rocker brother Rod Stewart has an incredible NYCentral line running north out of his Grand Central! But Andy's work here is the greatest...
While the Pennsylvania Railroad will always be an enduring institution for many things in railroading, the electrified lines between New York and Washington are symbolic of the brilliance of this old company. This gentleman captures the essence of its greatness in this layout. Bravo!
Jack Yarbrough Andy's
They look so real 😍
i love the replica of the elizabeth arch area at 2:28. i vividly remember eating with my mom at feinswogs luncheonette there. thanks again.
Very nice layout with excellent attention to the fine details.
Daaaamn...this layout is SERIOUS!! This IS the best catenary layout I have seen hands down, straight up! Everything - the trains, weathering, scenery, signals - looks absolutely fan-tastic! I would love to see more of this; not to mention seeing this in person.
Andy's work belongs in the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC! This layout is a shrine, Crazyman, to your friend and our modeling icon, Andy Rubbo! This is still the greatest Pennsy layout I have EVER seen! If I caught the Broadway Limited at Trenton for DC, I stepped out of my past and into Andy's layout! Thanks, again...
Some of this footage reminds me of the Enola Yards on the West Shore of the Susquehanna River near Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. The tunnel shots remind me of Marysville, PA. Cool!
I model the NEC in n scale. I have catenary on all my main lines. It is so labor intensive. But our passion for detail and Pennsylvania electrics drives us for perfection.
Thanks. I have not been back to see Andy's progress in a few years. It is 3D art for sure.
Wonderful attention to detail! Keep up the good work Andy.
When model railroads become time machines.
As a former Amtrak wire train gang foreman I'd say you've got it.
It doesn't get any better than this, amazing work Andy!
Excellent layout and video. Thanks for sharing.
WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW! and WOW!!!!!!....most fantastic catenary i've ever seen in any scale.....but the Elizabeth scenes belong in a museum, i've seen very few layouts or dioramas anywhere (and i include dioramas on other subjects) that made me feel like i was right there.......kudos to crazyman and to Andy Rubbo......i'm a PRRTHS member and i'll have to look up his Keystone Modeler article(s).....wish this were easy in n-scale.
Thanks. Truly awesome. Any videos of those GG1's running with deployed pantographs?
Love this makes me want to build my own electrified pa layout great work
Stunning absolutely awesome I love the photos they make me feel nostalgic would like to go back in time.
Amazing. This makes me want to start over with my layout.
Seeing this layout with the Cat system has given me quite a thrill, there are others on YT, but this one is very special, I will download it for future enjoyable viewing. Thank You for sharing...SantaFeDu
Absolutely the best model of PRR catenary I have ever seen. Too bad the pans aren't taking advantage of it. I would echo what another commentor said; Maybe Andy could work on the spring tension of the pantographs.
Pantographs up or down ...still a pretty impressive layout ...nice work !!
looks like northeast corridor catenary of today , Very nice well detailed layout.
Beautiful structures and electrical equipment!
Looks fantastic. Would be 100% if the Catenary was used.
Amazing! Exact replica of the catenary trusses on the NE in NJ and part of PA!!
Amazing.
If I had this overhead catenary layout, in my basement and head awesome room. I could imagine watching 43 car mail- express, trains, 19 car , ACL bound Champions, 14 car Congressional , The Patriot from Boston, The 17 car Silver Methor, the Penn-Texas to ST, Louis, The Manhattan LTD, with a ton of head cars, auto parts freight trains , the Broker heading to Bay Head,Jct: from Jersey city, Exchange place. I could spend all day down in the basement. WOW. GOOD WORK.
Greetings CrazyMan. Nice layout. Love that E44 locomotive, when it passed by.
It's not even right how awesome this is. Let's see MORE MORE MORE!
Spectacular!!! Bravo. PRR hardcore brother.
theb Elizabeth scenes are world class! nice job!
I live outside Parkesburg,Pa. This is how it looks today,only Amtrack trains run on the line.
The way it should look, period.
Superb layout, the equipment is so detailed!
excellent,thanks
Impressive! Very impressive!
@crazyman762 It's an awesome representation, even with the pantographs down. I wonder if the spring pressure of the pantographs could be changed to run with them raised, but either way, this is an amazing layout.
Great clip. This layout is 3D art. Not too many layouts on here make the cover of a Great Model Railroads annual. Wish you had more clips of this amazing layout showing train action on the Northeast Corridor in 1967. Or maybe a cabride clip over the whole layout. How badass would that be??? Oh well, I can dream. Thanks for this short, but amazing clip though.
Damn fine modeling. Shame the pantographs weren't up.
Love it! I have the magazine of your layout, very inspiring!
All I can say is wow!
Metuchen? my grand parents live up there, and NEC is my favorite modeling subject. Maybe i'll bump into him one day.
does the catenary work?? the GG-1's in the beginning had both pantographs down!
Outstanding.
Great layout, it would be nice if pantographs were actually used.
Ditto to the comment below...fantastic overhead...but why aren't the pantographs up?!?
Simulated does not equal stunning, would be more inpressed with operating !
How "Stunning" is the Catenary, if he runs his GG1s with their pans Down?
Batteries!
Agree
I DID say "under construction." And yes... still stunning!
This is amazing work! I have Andy's article from the Keystone Modeler and eventually I might build catenary based on his instructions and am looking forward to seeing hus layout in GMR 2012. If you could ever get more shots of his layout I would love to see!
which issue of KM?
I love this ...its so real does it run with the overhead wires?
You did a lot of work there and it shows. I love those powerful GG1 electric engines.
I must have in, my H-O, collection, every known PRR, freight , passenger train, and MP54, mu,s. That once ply these rails in the 1950s and 1960s.
The recent edition of Model Railroader (June 2001) has a photo of this laypout in the section called "Trackside photos." Would love to see this railroad in MR, or RMC or in Allen Keller's "Great Model Railroad" dvd series. This is something I aspire to when I build my own HO model railroad (except I'll be modeling 1938 - 58 part of NJ, even Trenton's station, going to NYC)-though Andy is modeling the era I remember the most clear,
Incredible. Photos show the pantographs up-I assume they run that way now. Blown away by the depiction of Elizabeth, NJ (w/ the CNJ in the background). Love the NE corridor. Wanting to model Trenton, NJ station & "environs." What's the size of the layout? Track plan? Why isn't something like this in Model Railroader or Railroad Model Craftsman?
6 track section Rahway to Linden and its then 4 tracks Linden to Newark Penn with a 2 track section Newark to 34th Street Penn Station via Secaucus Junction since I've been through the Section he modeled in a NJ Transit Arrow III during 2004
LONG LIVE ANDY RUBBO!
Awesome catenary .. But why arent the Pantograghs up !
HO scale is about 87.1:1. During the GG1 days the real PRR catenary ran at around 12 kV and 25 Hz, so to proper scale it should be 138 volts and 0.287 Hz. :-)
I have the issue of Great MOdel Railroads that this layout is in.Great trains.
I have home built Pennsyvinia catenary on my train set too
Awesome work. Anyone that disliked this probably can't do better. Stop hating.
Andy has MADE his own panotographs that make contact with the catenary - so STOP complaining about it! Like anyone else here has a better PRR layout with full catenary! The panotographs break away with the slightest snag and keep the catenary intact. I just have not been there to see it, or make a new video clip.
STOP complaining????
To be honest - a layout with catenary and lowered pantographs looks even more ridiculous than electrics running without catenary.
Arne Wangen He was trying to say that since he took the video, the owner eventually did make pantographs that touch the wires. But I do agree though....seeing a GG1 with its pantograph down is like seeing a steam engine move without the rods moving. Something just seems to be missing. I'm curious to see what it looks like now with the new pantographs!
I was going to also make a comment about how having the pantograph down kind of ruined the illusion. But I see that has been addressed. Since running with the pantograph in contact with the catenary is fraught with potential snags, can the catenary be fixed into the up position, but just below the wire so it gives the illusion of contact? That could be a possible solution.
Andy Rubbo is a genius. This takes me back! I am a native of Baltimore and lived in Manhattan. I remember the old Penn Station and loved it...Tnank God they haven't razed Grand Central. I am an old fan of Pennsy, NY Central and the B&O railroads! This layout is so beautiful that it is almost indescribably BEAUTIFUL...THANKS, ARTHUR BURGHARDT "NgaiO" PS...did Andy build the catenary from scratch?
Why aren't the pantographs raised? The catenary looks very good but it's useless if it's not functional.
anyone ever see Rod Stewarts HO layout? It is freaking unreal!!!!!!!
Really nice work! Curious to know the materials used to make them.
why GG1 Not Centenary up????
WOW
Where’s behind the big bash and the Frankford Junction?
WOW! That's purely awesome!!! Does he have a track plan posted on the internet?
I have not checked this clip in about a year. I had no idea it has been viewed over 6000 times! (:->) Thanks for checking it out.
Andy uses .010 wire for the trolley wire making it very in scale VERY fragile as well. With the spring tension of out of the box HO pantographs it deflects the catenary. If Andy went for full contact disaster would happen eventually & rip down years of painstaking catenary work. The no pantograph contact does not detract from seeing the otherwise amazing layout.
Great looking layout IMO. What is modeled besides the Elizabeth/Newark area? I live right up the road in Highland Park and grew up next to the tracks - its a dream of mine to one day build my own NEC layout.
According to the Mrr article, he is going to expand to Penn Station. There is also a little of the New York and Long Branch area as well
very cool layout...so far this is the second vid besides mine of an E44 tht i've seen....very cool..its so quiet it could be an Alco model products unit but Alpha models could have made it aswell...do u know who made the E44?...very cool vid!!
If u go back there, can u see where he got the congressional obs car?
he should run Pennsy steam locomotives on that layout
Are those carenary lines actually powered?
no
Ya nice catenary.................... with pantographs down????????????????
Yes it goes beyond me as well. I did model Germany way back in the eighties with Electrotren Catenary with the pantographs up.
No narration. Just video of running trains. Unfortunately there no comentary or description of what makes this layout so special. Who ever created this video did a real disservice to the modeler.
I was just visiting a friend for the day and see his layout. There was no grand plan to make an epic TH-cam video shoot,
great catenary but running the GG1 with the pantograph down ,sigh
pantos are down... for shame :(
Why would one go to all the trouble to make the catenary wires this detailed and then run engines with the pantographs down????
Reading the previously posted comments RIGHT below this one about the new pantographs that now contact the canterary wire is such a bother
Buck up there crazyman and hurry up with the update!!
How tall did you make the catenary poles?
Well up until now from what I have seen nothing beats this I mean nothing the cherry model club is good but this is impeccable except for one thing you don’t run the pantagraghs up when running your trains what’s up with that.
I want to see someone make an accurate model of New York Penn Station. (Pennsylvania Station.)
At 0:23 I thought I was seeing things, but at 0:57 I saw it again. HOW DID HE GET THE OBS CAR TO THE CONGRESSIONAL/SENATOR? I can't find anywhere that makes that model.
Challenger did them in brass some years ago. The Congo (POC85B) and Senator (POC85C) observations were slightly different but I know they did both versions.
NKP Car advertise car sides for the Senator observation on their website but they are shown as being in Very Limited Quantity
+Brian McDevitt im seeing if Walthers can make the whole train as one of their "Named Trains"
get layout like to see it where are you at are you in new jersey do you have friend to operate on your layout
I see another train running on the Same track
I agree why put all that work in and don't use the pantographs on The GG-1 it's a Sin. also I have seen better Layouts, Like my Pike also in HO, before I did 30x40 in N-Gauge.
Joe,
Please send me any photos of your HO or N scale layout.
bill@lanestrains.com I am VERY interested in seeing them.
Also if you would have read my numerous previous comments that Andy MADE new pantographs that contact the trolley wires now. I just have not been there to see and record his progress yet.
i live in JERSEY not to far from there
it's would look better with amtrak train instead